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<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 08:44:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Eric Holder Claims Terrorists Are Involved In 'IP Theft'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may have heard about a fair bit about Attorney General Eric Holder <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/eric-holder-hearing-house-judiciary-committee/65263/" target="_blank">testifying</a> before the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday morning.  He was -- quite reasonably -- raked over the coals by members of both parties for the incredible decision to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130513/15401423065/doj-unconcerned-about-constitution-obtained-ap-reporters-phone-records.shtml">obtain phone records</a> from AP reporters, under <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130514/17194923087/what-national-security-risk-evidence-suggests-embarassment-drove-doj-spying-ap-phone-records.shtml">very questionable</a> circumstances.
<br /><br />
There was one other odd tidbit that might be worth discussing around here as well.  Suddenly, in the middle of all the questions about the Associated Press, Rep. Mel Watt -- who, during the SOPA markup famously declared that he <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111216/12082717110/dear-congress-its-no-longer-ok-to-not-know-how-internet-works.shtml">didn't understand</a> the technology, or why tech people were concerned, but also that he didn't care and wanted to pass SOPA without bothering to understand -- started asking questions about copyright and "enforcement."  Yes, Mel Watt is the ranking member on the IP subcommittee (scary enough in its own right), but it seemed completely off topic.
<br /><br />
Most of the coverage on Watt's questioning has focused on the fact that he did most of his questioning <a href="http://www.presstelegram.com/breakingnews/ci_23249237/rep-mel-watts-grandson-nico-2-steals-focus" target="_blank">with his two-year-old grandson on his lap</a>, who interrupts the questioning at one point.  But the questions were ridiculous, as were the answers, and deserve some scrutiny.  First, despite it being <i>soundly rejected</i> when SOPA went down in flames, Watt <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-watt-holds-his-grandchild-during-holder-hearing/2013/05/15/dc6dde4e-bd8c-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_video.html" target="_blank">asks Holder if Congress should make online streaming of infringing material a felony</a>, rather than the misdemeanor that it currently is.  There are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111207/04193216996/harvard-law-professor-explains-why-felony-streaming-provisions-do-put-justin-bieber-risk-jail.shtml">all sorts of problems</a> with this idea, as we've discussed in the past, but Holder embraced the idea wholeheartedly, saying that the Justice Department would love to have "another tool," ignoring just how widely the DOJ has abused existing tools to shut down legitimate companies and websites.
<br /><br />
And then Watt directly asks about a connection to terrorism:
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<b>Watt:</b> Are there increasing indications of links between this problem and terrorism?  Have you found any of those links and would you describe them for the committee?
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<b>Holder</b>: Yes, that's a very good question.  It's something that's very worrisome.  As we saw organized crime get into a variety of other businesses in order to support their efforts, we're now seeing terrorist groups getting into the theft of intellectual property.  Again, to generate money to support what they're trying to do for their terrorist means.  So we have to broaden our enforcement efforts, broaden the investigative efforts that we take, to examine what are the precise reasons why people are engaging in this kind of intellectual property thievery.  And to consider whether or not there's a terrorist connection to it.  This is a relatively new phenomenon, but one we have to be aware of.
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Watt then asks about things that Congress can do to help, and Holder says he's "particularly concerned" about this problem, and he asks for "enhanced penalties" for "intellectual property theft."
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That all sounds very interesting.  And it might be, if there were <i>any</i> truth to it at all.  Unfortunately, there's not.  We've yet to see a single piece of evidence supporting the idea that terrorists are involved in infringement.  The claim has been around for years, and we've <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100129/0630057974.shtml">asked for evidence</a> for years, and <b>none</b> has ever been provided.  Because it doesn't exist.  Researcher Joe Karaganis <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110421/00493313981/whos-funding-more-terrorism-downloaders-hollywood.shtmlf">looked into the issue</a> a few years ago and found that there were some very vague reports of <i>organized crime</i> being involved in <i>counterfeit CDs/DVDs</i> in the 80s and 90s.  But that was small and short-lived -- in large part because online infringement basically made that business obsolete:
<blockquote><i>
Arguing that piracy is integral to such networks [organized crime and terrorism] means ignoring the dramatic changes in the technology and organizational structure of the pirate market over the past decade. By necessity, evidentiary standards become very loose. <b>Decades-old stories are recycled as proof of contemporary terrorist connections, anecdotes stand in as evidence of wider systemic linkages, and the threshold for what counts as organized crime is set very low</b>. The RAND study, which reprises and builds on earlier IFPI and Interpol reporting, is constructed almost entirely around such practices. Prominent stories about IRA involvement in movie piracy and Hezbollah involvement in DVD and software piracy date, respectively, to the 1980s and 1990s. Street vendor networks in Mexico City--a subject we treat at length in the Mexico chapter--are mischaracterized as criminal gangs connected with the drug trade. Piracy in Russia is attributed to criminal mafias rather than to the chronically porous boundary between licit and illicit enterprise. The Pakistani criminal gang D-Company, far from "forging a clear pirate monopoly" in Bollywood, in RAND's words, plays a small and diminishing part in Indian DVD piracy--its smuggling networks dwarfed by local production.
<br /><br />
The US record isn't more convincing in this regard. Jeffrey McIllwain examined the Department of Justice&#8217;s IP-related prosecutions between 2000 and 2004 and found that only 49 out of the 105 cases alleged that the defendant operated within larger, organized networks. Nearly all of these were "warez" distribution groups for pirated software--hacker communities that are explicitly and often fiercely non-commercial in orientation. <b>McIllwain found "no overt references to professional organized crime groups" in any of the DOJ's criminal charges (McIllwain 2005:27). If organized crime is a serious problem in these contexts, it should not be difficult to produce a stronger evidentiary record.</b>
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In other words, Rep. Mel Watt, a well known supporter of Hollywood's position on copyright, tossed a bogus softball FUD talking point to Eric Holder in the middle of an important hearing about a very different subject, and Holder proceeded to make claims to Congress that have been made for decades without a single bit of evidence to support it.
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Holder has plenty of other serious issues to deal with these days, but it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to see our Attorney General appear to be spreading known scare stories that have been proven bogus from decades ago as if they're new, despite a single bit of evidence concerning any modern connection to terrorism.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/17254423102/eric-holder-claims-terrorists-are-involved-ip-theft.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/17254423102/eric-holder-claims-terrorists-are-involved-ip-theft.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/17254423102/eric-holder-claims-terrorists-are-involved-ip-theft.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:53:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>As Expected, ICE Seizes 313 Websites In Its Role As The NFL's Private Police Force</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this week, we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130129/10471821817/feds-seize-legit-49ers-merchandise-apparently-unconcerned-about-actual-fraud-ticket-sales.shtml">predicted</a> that either today or tomorrow, we'd hear about ICE and the DOJ once again seizing a bunch of websites... and here it is.  This morning, ICE announced that it had <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/013113-super-bowl-bust-us-takes-266308.html?hpg1=bn" target="_blank">seized another 313 websites based on its highly questionable legal theory</a> concerning taking down websites without any adversarial hearing.  Of course, lately it's moved away from doing site seizures concerning websites that deal with content/copyright issues, and focused instead on those it claims are selling counterfeit merchandise.  Along those lines, ICE announced that it arrested a few people with counterfeit Super Bowl merchandise.
<br /><br />
Of course, this is all for show.  Waiting until just a couple days before the Super Bowl is pretty ridiculous, since if people were going to buy merch, <i>they already did so</i>.  This is just ICE, once again, generating headlines for the corporations it seems to think it represents.  As is his usual MO, ICE boss John Morton <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130131/fbn-super-bowl-merchandise/?utm_hp_ref=media&#038;ir=media" target="_blank">talked up just how "successful" this operation was</a>, based on his own metrics, claiming "This just takes good old-fashioned police work, people getting out on the streets." 
<br /><br />
Funny, then, that he completely leaves out the parts where they <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130129/10471821817/feds-seize-legit-49ers-merchandise-apparently-unconcerned-about-actual-fraud-ticket-sales.shtml">seized legitimate merchandise</a> and hassled the seller.  It appears that, sometimes, ICE just isn't very good at "good old-fashioned police work."  And that's especially true when it seems to be taking orders from big companies, rather than the public it is supposed to be protecting.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11563521841/as-expected-ice-seizes-313-websites-its-role-as-nfls-private-police-force.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11563521841/as-expected-ice-seizes-313-websites-its-role-as-nfls-private-police-force.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11563521841/as-expected-ice-seizes-313-websites-its-role-as-nfls-private-police-force.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:29:50 PST</pubDate>
<title>Annual Cyber-Monday ICE Take Down Blitz 2012</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/13420421149/annual-cyber-monday-ice-take-down-blitz-2012.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's cyber-Monday, the day when many of us basically go to Amazon.com and get a bunch of gifts for friends and family because going to the store this time of year is as <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/bestoftv/2012/11/23/evexp-natpkg-black-friday-mashup.hln">dangerous as a North Korean prison camp</a>. I say "many of us" partially to account for anyone out there who doesn't celebrate Christmas and partially to account for the hardworking folks at America's Immigration and Customs Enforcement, who instead spend the day posing as shoppers to shut down internet sites that they think are selling infringing or counterfeit products and replacing their web pages with handy little ICE "naughty" badges (Just like Santa would do! Yay!). We covered their exploits <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/01460616907/ice-seizes-another-150-domains-as-sopapipa-debate-heats-up.shtml">last year</a> as they went about taking down 150 domains, sans the websites in question being able to tell their side of the story. It's like justice, minus any of that annoying rights of the accused crap!
<br /><br />
Well, ICE is at it again, this time taking down only 132 websites, in their effort to stop commerce they decide they don't like.
<blockquote>
<i>"This operation is a great example of the tremendous cooperation between ICE and our international partners at the [Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center]," ICE Director John Morton said in a statement. "Our partnerships enable us to go after criminals who are duping unsuspecting shoppers all over the world. This is not an American problem, it is a global one and it is a fight we must win."</i>
</blockquote>
As with last year, ICE appears to be focusing on trademark infringers and counterfeiters, but they haven't released the list of sites seized yet, so we can't be sure there aren't any <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/08225217010/breaking-news-feds-falsely-censor-popular-blog-over-year-deny-all-due-process-hide-all-details.shtml">Dajaz1-type</a> screw-ups in there as well. Still, the question remains why they have to do this en masse on one day instead of going through the more tedious, though transparent, process of taking the sites to court. Yes, the article states that they are getting court orders to take down the sites, but why not actually drag site owners into the courtroom and give them a chance to represent themselves before shutting down their ability to operate entirely? Is it likely that most, if not all, of these sites are infringing some way? Perhaps, but given that we've seen ICE take down innocent sites in the past, why not err on the side of caution and actually follow the justice process?
<br /><br />
I also find Morton's comment about this not being an "American problem" quite amusing given the annual cyber-Monday take down blitz. If this isn't an America-focused event, why is it being conducted on cyber-Monday, a predominantly American marketing term?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/13420421149/annual-cyber-monday-ice-take-down-blitz-2012.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/13420421149/annual-cyber-monday-ice-take-down-blitz-2012.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/13420421149/annual-cyber-monday-ice-take-down-blitz-2012.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>nice-use-of-ICE-resources,-guys</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:35:34 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Crime Inc. Produces Thoughtful, Nuanced Episode About Piracy (Haha, Just Kidding! Cue Scary Music)</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02534820218/crime-inc-produces-thoughtful-nuanced-episode-about-piracy-haha-just-kidding-cue-scary-music.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this year, after a series of long and detailed phone calls in which I tried to explain to producers of CNBC's 'Crime Inc.' why the claims about "piracy" were exaggerated, and how conflating physical bootlegging and unauthorized digital downloads was a mistake, we did a filmed interview that took place over a few hours in San Francisco.  I had hoped that maybe, just maybe, they'd be able to present the story of copyright infringement with a bit of nuance, rather than the typical "run for your lives! theft! piracy! gangsters!"  Unfortunately, it appears that the show went in the other direction and did the cliche and totally bogus storyline that digital downloads are a form of organized crime costing billions.  I haven't yet seen the whole program, but judging from the <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/42767515" target="_blank">show's online description and "extras"</a> along with its <a href="http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000111332&#038;play=1#eyJ2aWQiOiIzMDAwMTExMzMyIiwiZW5jVmlkIjoidkpZWFlwNndLejM5cC9uKytVRnVQdz09IiwidlRhYiI6InRyYW5zY3JpcHQiLCJ2UGFnZSI6MSwiZ05hdiI6WyLCoExhdGVzdCBWaWRlbyJdLCJnU2VjdCI6IkFMTCIsImdQYWdlIjoiMSIsInN5bSI6IiIsInNlYXJjaCI6IiJ9" target="_blank">video preview</a>, this is going to be more of the same garbage:
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From the voice-over, scary music, and video clips, this looks like a repeat of what <i>60 Minutes</i> put on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091101/1818186751.shtml">a few years ago</a>.  Given that CNBC is (of course) owned by NBC Universal, perhaps that's not too surprising.  But I had hoped that maybe, just maybe, they could be convinced to present a more nuanced position.  Instead, the video clip clearly presents downloading in the same light as physical bootlegging, claims billions of "losses" and suggests the whole thing is a criminal epidemic, rather than a situation in which a failure by the entertainment industry to adapt is a major part of the problem.
<br /><br />
One of the "extras" shows ICE boss John Morton gleefully talking about seizing and forfeiting domain names -- which is odd timing given that just yesterday the feds had to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120829/12370820209/oops-after-seizing-censoring-rojadirecta-18-months-feds-give-up-drop-case.shtml">give back</a> one of those domain names because Morton and his crew totally screwed up.  But don't bet on seeing that in this report.
<br /><br />
The show officially airs today (times depend on where you are).  I have no idea if any of my footage even made it into the show, but given the positioning of everything shown on the website, it wouldn't surprise me if the points I made about how much of this is exaggerated and misleading don't make it into the episode, or if they do, they're presented completely out of context.  So much for trying to bring a little sanity to reporting on these things.  I guess reporting on reality, rather than the industry's spin, just doesn't play on cable news.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02534820218/crime-inc-produces-thoughtful-nuanced-episode-about-piracy-haha-just-kidding-cue-scary-music.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02534820218/crime-inc-produces-thoughtful-nuanced-episode-about-piracy-haha-just-kidding-cue-scary-music.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02534820218/crime-inc-produces-thoughtful-nuanced-episode-about-piracy-haha-just-kidding-cue-scary-music.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:17:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>US Chamber Of Commerce Launches Ad Campaign For Son Of SOPA</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120828/14384820183/us-chamber-commerce-launches-ad-campaign-son-sopa.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Next to the MPAA, the main lobbying organization that pushed SOPA was the US Chamber of Commerce.  The organization and its laughably inept "Global Intellectual Property Center" are infamous for the fact that they have absolutely no shame in using <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111130/02093116930/step-step-debunking-us-chamber-commerces-dishonest-stats-about-rogue-sites.shtml">completely bogus numbers</a> to argue for bad laws that their highest spending backers support.  Not surprisingly, the USCoC did not take the loss over SOPA lightly, and it appears that they're gearing up for the next version of SOPA in 2013.  As pointed out by <a href="https://twitter.com/gnagesh/status/240535191385427968" target="_blank">Gautham Nagesh</a>, the USCoC has <a href="http://www.rollcall.com/news/chamber_renews_push_for_anti_piracy_legislation-217048-1.html?pos=htmbtxt" target="_blank">kicked off a new ad campaign</a> priming the pump for new legislation to "protect intellectual property."
<br /><br />
In other words: get ready for "son of SOPA."
<blockquote><i>
The powerful business lobby, perhaps the biggest supporter of controversial legislation intended to stem online piracy, is at it again. The group is up with a billboard advertisement in Manhattan's Times Square and an online video series urging Congress to "protect America's IP rights."
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The Chamber is claiming that "this is an awareness campaign.... not political," but no one believes that.  They've also set up a "website" at <a href="http://www.theglobalipcenter.com/dangerousfakes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">DangerousFakes.com</a>, which includes a silly video and more debunked stats.
<blockquote><i>
World-wide cross border trade in physical counterfeits alone costs the global economy $250 billion a year.
</i></blockquote>
This number is so bogus that it's been debunked through and through over and over again through the years.  As we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml">have explained</a>, the real number may be closer to about $5 billion (still decently large, but nowhere near $250 billion) and that $250 billion is based on a single unsourced claim in an article in Forbes from 20 years ago.  In other words: bogus.
<blockquote><i>
96% of all online pharmacies are operating illegally, many out of compliance with international IP laws that protect the public health and safety.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, this depends on how you define "illegally."  Many are merely gray market re-importers, helping people get more affordable, and perfectly legitimate drugs.  But the big pharma companies (USCoC members, of course) don't like the competition and efforts to drive down their insane margins.
<blockquote><i>
In the United States, the domestic value of counterfeit pharmaceutical seizures in FY 2011 rose by more than $11 million, an increase of almost 200%.
</i></blockquote>
And, again, how much of that was gray market, legitimate drugs that were just being re-imported?  And how much of it were true "fakes"?  Also, if the problem is really $250 billion, doesn't it seem to highlight how <i>small</i> a problem fake drugs are if the US seized just <strike>$11 million</strike> approximately $17 million worth? (<b>Update</b>: Correcting the number based on $11 million being the "increase" of "almost 200%" to approximate the total).  Oh, and note that they said "domestic value," not the actual price.  That's because they're taking the fake drugs and then inflating them way up to the price that would have been charged.  Meaning the real amount seized was much, much less.
<blockquote><i>
Counterfeits also have the potential to put our military at risk and jeopardize our national security missions, according to two recent reports by the Department of Commerce and the Government Accountability Office.  
</i></blockquote>
More fear mongering.  And of course, if the military is buying counterfeit parts, shouldn't the focus be on the military's procurement process?  Why is the military buying from shady equipment dealers in the first place?
<br /><br />
The thing is, there is a risk from fake drugs and military equipment, but it's a really, really, really small problem.  Barely noticeable.  That's why the Chamber likes to lump those in with other things, like copyright infringement, because then they can pretend that the "risk" is really big.  But it's not.  I'm all for focusing in on stopping those who actually sell truly fake drugs and fake military parts, but there really aren't that many of those out there, and they can be targeted specifically, rather than passing broad legislation with massive consequences for the rest of the internet.
<br /><br />
But that's not how the Chamber works.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120828/14384820183/us-chamber-commerce-launches-ad-campaign-son-sopa.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120828/14384820183/us-chamber-commerce-launches-ad-campaign-son-sopa.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120828/14384820183/us-chamber-commerce-launches-ad-campaign-son-sopa.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:52:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>What Happens If File Sharing Can Also Be Prosecuted As Trademark Infringement?</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>In the arguments over ACTA, one criticism seemed widely accepted: that it tries to bundle together two quite different challenges -- tackling counterfeit goods, like fake medicines, and dealing with unauthorized file sharing.  One popular suggestion was that ACTA should be split in two in order to handle those separately &#8211; for example, David Martin, the politician who played a key role in convincing the European Parliament to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120704/07533019579/european-parliament-declares-its-independence-european-commission-with-massive-rejection-acta-now-what.shtml">reject ACTA</a> this week, supports this approach.
</p><p>
But a case reported on TorrentFreak suggests that <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/7000-fine-for-sharing-wordpress-for-dummies-on-bittorrent-120702/">the distinction between the two worlds is starting to blur</a>:

<i><blockquote>A New York federal court has ordered a rare default judgment in favor of John Wiley &#038; Sons, one of the world&#8217;s largest book publishers. Robert Carpenter from Poughkeepsie, New York, has been ordered to pay the publisher $7,000 in damages for sharing a copy of "WordPress All-in-One For Dummies" on BitTorrent. According to Judge William Pauley, the man is guilty of both copyright and trademark infringement.</blockquote></i>

The judge specified that $2,000 of those damages were "for Carpenter&#8217;s counterfeiting of Wiley&#8217;s Trademarks".  As TorrentFreak notes:

<i><blockquote>To our knowledge, this is the first time that sharing files on BitTorrent has been viewed as counterfeiting, a description that&#8217;s usually reserved for fake goods sold as the real deal.</blockquote></i>

That's troubling, because it would seem to open the door for anti-counterfeiting measures aimed at tackling serious trademark infringement to be applied routinely to P2P sharing of copyright files simply because they are exact copies of originals.  That, in its turn, would mean that separating ACTA's measures against counterfeit goods from those dealing with online infringement might not be enough to solve the treaty's problems, since the former would still apply to the digital world.  Yet another reason to bin ACTA completely and to start again from scratch.
</p><p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 May 2012 10:11:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Ad Industry Is Already Getting Ads Off Of 'Rogue' Sites; So Why Did We Need Legislation?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Recently, the Association of National Advertisers (ANA) and the American Association of Advertising Agencies (4A's) put together a <a href="http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/ad-industry-takes-major-step-fight-online-piracy-140014" target="_blank">statement of best practices</a> as part of an "International Anti-Counterfeiting Conference."  The best practices say that advertisers and marketers should be explicit that they don't want their ads on "rogue" sites.  This leads to a bunch of thoughts.
<br /><br />
First up, as Dan Mitchell at Fortune points out, the companies that already advertise on "rogue" sites <a href="http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/05/04/ads/" target="_blank">aren't the major advertisers</a>.  For all the talk by copyright maximalists of how big companies are getting rich off of rogue sites, that shows they don't know much about how advertising works.  The ads that show up on most of those sites is the crappiest of the crappiest of advertising -- the pure bottom-filler type crap that doesn't pay very much at all.  While Mitchell uses this to suggest that such a best practices won't "staunch the flow of revenues" to these sites, he totally ignores the more important point: that it shows that these sites aren't making very much money in the first place because all the advertisers who actually pay decent ad rates <b>have already</b> made sure their ads don't show up on these sites.
<br /><br />
Second, this raises questions about why the MPAA was so insistent on the need for SOPA.  It sure looks like the major players in the industry are already doing things like blocking ads from "rogue" sites voluntarily.  It's amazing how the entertainment industry likes to pretend that companies would never do such things without a law, when they do it all the time anyway.
<br /><br />
Finally, the Adweek article (first link above) notes that ad giant GroupM already had put in place a blacklist.  But what the Adweek article unfortunately left out was that the "list" GroupM came up with was a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110620/01370314750/universal-music-goes-to-war-against-popular-hip-hop-sites-blogs.shtml">complete joke</a> -- listing all sorts of perfectly legitimate sites, like the Internet Archive, Vimeo and Soundcloud.  Oh yeah, and a bunch of hip hop blogs... and 50Cent's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110620/16364214774/did-universal-music-declare-50-cents-own-website-is-pirate-site.shtml">personal website</a>.  It's great to declare that they won't let ads show up on "rogue" sites, but it gets worrisome when they define "rogue" sites so broadly.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120507/02570318801/ad-industry-is-already-getting-ads-off-rogue-sites-so-why-did-we-need-legislation.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120507/02570318801/ad-industry-is-already-getting-ads-off-rogue-sites-so-why-did-we-need-legislation.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120507/02570318801/ad-industry-is-already-getting-ads-off-rogue-sites-so-why-did-we-need-legislation.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:00:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Why The Chances of China Joining ACTA Or TPP Are Practically Zero</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>As <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120307/08500418013/workshop-audience-barred-demonstrating-approval-michael-geists-acta-takedown.shtml">Michael Geist</a> and others have pointed out, ACTA is the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement without the main sources of counterfeits being involved -- notably, China. This has required some skilful footwork on the part of ACTA supporters, who need to justify the ratification of a loosely-worded treaty with potentially harmful effects on Internet service providers, civil liberties and developing countries, but which doesn't provide the key benefit claimed in its name.

<a href="http://keionline.org/node/1380">Here's how the European Union's representatives tried to deal with this issue</a> in a "statement on IP Enforcement Trends" made at the WTO Council for TRIPS:

<i><blockquote>ACTA is an agreement between a limited number of countries.
<br /><br />
But it is a significant first step. It establishes a nucleus of countries that are committed to the highest standards of intellectual property rights enforcement. A nucleus that will grow. The World Trade Organisation had a different name, a weaker structure and only nine members when it started out in 1948. After Russia&#8217;s accession later this year, nearly all world trade will be bound by its rules.
<br /><br />
We would have liked to have negotiated this agreement at a global level. That was not possible. But the countries who have joined us in this agreement will soon begin to see the benefits of good enforcement, in terms of investment and in terms of innovation.</blockquote></i>

Since the vast majority of ACTA's participants already have "good enforcement", the last sentence only makes sense if it's referring to signatories like Mexico and Morocco.  So is the EU seriously claiming that ACTA is going to lead to a flood of investment in those nations?  If so, when? Immediately?  In ten years?  All-in-all, it seems a pretty dubious metric for the success of ACTA, and a poor incentive for others to join.
</p><p>
That's especially the case for China, which probably needs investment less than any nation on earth, since its currency reserves are currently around the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_reserves_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China">$3 trillion mark</a>.  But even if external investment isn't much of an incentive, maybe there are others.
</p><p>
That wasn't the case back in 2010, when China was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100617/0213109859.shtml">unconvinced about</a> the value of ACTA:

<i><blockquote>Causing particular concern to them [India and China] is the draft Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) being negotiated by Australia, Canada, the EU and its 27 member states, Japan, Rep.Korea, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland and the US.

Briefly, China's and India's lengthy statements argued that ACTA and other agreements could:
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<li>Conflict with TRIPS Agreement (a reference to TRIPS Art.1.1) and other WTO agreements, and cause legal uncertainty</li>
<li>Undermine the balance of rights, obligations and flexibilities that were carefully negotiated in the various WTO agreements</li>
<li>Distort trade or create trade barriers, and disrupt goods in transit or transhipment</li>
<li>Undermine flexibilities built into TRIPS (such as for public health, and trade in generic medicines)</li>
<li>Undermine governments&#8217; freedom to allocate resources on intellectual property by forcing them to focus on enforcement</li></ul></blockquote></i>

Of course that was two years ago, and ACTA has changed during that time.  Perhaps China is more positive about it now.  <a href="http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/news12_e/trip_28feb12_e.htm">This is how it felt last week</a>, when it was at that same WTO Council for TRIPS meeting:

<i><blockquote>China said many provisions of ACTA go beyond the TRIPS provisions.</blockquote></i>

Still not happy, apparently.  But maybe China doesn't like the Western bias of ACTA, which basically consists of the US and the EU, plus a few other smaller nations thrown in to give a semblance of globalization.  Perhaps China will join TPP instead?
</p><p>
A recent article provides <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2012/03/07/china-tpp-and-japans-future-in-asia/">some insight into China's attitude towards TPP, and its plans in this area</a>:

<i><blockquote>For evidence of China's vision for an integrated East Asian political economy -- binding China, Japan, and Korea -- look at remarks of China's Commerce Minister yesterday in Beijing. Speaking at a press conference during the ongoing Chinese National People's Congress, Minister of Commerce Chen Deming's said of that Japanese entry into negotiations of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact, if it happens, "Should not be allowed to influence progress on other types of cooperation in the East Asian region."
<br /><br />
Translation: Japan should give priority to and focus first on the talks being promoted by Beijing to create a regional Free Trade Agreement (FTA) which would closely bind China, Japan, and Korea.</blockquote></i>

In other words, far from contemplating joining TPP -- and thus helping to address the same issues about that treaty failing to deal with counterfeiting in the same way that ACTA fails -- China clearly wants to promote its own regional Free Trade Agreement (FTA) for leading East Asian nations.  One reason is that China would be the clear economic heavyweight of that group, not the US as in ACTA or TPP.
</p><p>
That's the key problem with the ACTA proponents' vague hope that China will one day join a treaty it had no input on and which aims to shut down parts of its economy: ACTA would not only diminish China's sovereignty in terms of limiting what laws it could pass, it would also undermine its attempts to strengthen China's position as the undisputed regional leader in South-East Asia.
</p><p>
There is simply no benefit for China to join ACTA or TPP; and without China, both become largely pointless exercises.
</p><p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:37:31 PST</pubDate>
<title>ICE Propaganda Film Pats Itself On The Back For Censoring The Web; Promises Much More To Come</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Homeland Security's ICE (Immigration &#038; Customs Enforcement) group has put out a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1d4xjU8DpQ" target="_blank">slickly produced video patting itself on the back for all of its work censoring the web</a> in 2011, and promising much more of that kind of thing in the future:
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It stars ICE Director John Morton, reprising his usual ridiculous refrain in which he conflates actual counterfeit goods with copyright infringement.  But this time, he shows off his ability to stroll quickly through a warehouse while doing a walk-and-talk.  I have to admit that it feels like a parody video most of the time.  He kicks it off with a claim that he's explaining how to "steal an American job."  Then he claims, "here's how to save an American job: IPR enforcement!"
<br /><br />
He's wrong.  First of all, the "job loss" from counterfeits is totally and completely <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml">exaggerated</a>.  As has been shown by multiple studies, most people buying counterfeits (hell, and downloading infringing works) wouldn't have bought the real thing instead.  They know they're buying a fake good.  So no "job" is lost there.  And, as the government's own GAO noted last year, the idea that this all leads to lost jobs simply <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120104/04545217274/cato-institute-digs-into-mpaas-own-research-to-show-that-sopa-wouldnt-save-single-net-job.shtml">isn't supported by the data</a>.
<br /><br />
Second, enforcement does not "save jobs."  It does put massive burdens on legitimate sites.  Something Morton should know about since he's been taking down legitimate American sites with no legal basis for quite some time.
<br /><br />
But before we get to that, he shows off some counterfeit products.  There's a handbag, some fake drugs (they always have to show the fake drugs, despite it being a tiny issue, but they have to show some sort of "danger").  And then there's a video game mod chip.  He says it "allows you to hack into video games and steal the game for free.  That's illegal.  That's IP theft."  Of course, it's debatable if mod-chips are really illegal.  They have substantial non-infringing purposes other than "hacking into video games to steal them for free" (do people steal stuff not for free?).  But, you know, that's ICE under John Morton: declaring it illegal for you to modify products you legally purchased, like your gaming console.  Thanks, US government!
<br /><br />
Then we get to website censorship.  And boy is he proud of that.  You can see him gleaming as he says that ICE has "done a phenomenal job" and "every time they make a bust, every time they make an arrest, an American job is saved."
<br /><br />
So, I wonder, can John Morton explain whose job was saved when his staffers incorrectly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/08225217010/breaking-news-feds-falsely-censor-popular-blog-over-year-deny-all-due-process-hide-all-details.shtml">seized and censored Dajaz1.com for over a year</a>?  I'm curious.  Because it sure seems like he actually hurt the ability of the Americans who run that site to make money.  I'm curious whose job was saved when his staff <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120104/11012117278/ice-mistakenly-deports-missing-teen-to-colombia.shtml">deported a missing teen to Colombia</a> (where she was not from).  Is that the kind of "phenomenal" work under John Morton we should expect more of?
<br /><br />
He then shows off "the news coverage" that ICE has gotten for seizing websites.  Notice that he leaves out the stories about the mistaken seizure of multiple websites beyond Dajaz1.  Like the seizure of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110220/17533013176/ice-finally-admits-it-totally-screwed-up-next-time-perhaps-itll-try-due-process.shtml">84,000 legitimate sites</a> that were replaced with a statement claiming that they were all involved in child porn.  Somehow those clips just didn't make the cut.  Phenomenal work "saving American jobs!"
<br /><br />
Morton goes on to talk up how "proud of the results" he is over the seizing of websites.  Once again, no mention of the ones he seized by mistake, causing tremendous harm to those who he falsely declared as criminals.  What's amazing is that he's never issued an apology over those false seizures.  Instead, he's "proud of the phenomenal job" his team has done?  What a joke.
<br /><br />
Finally, he highlights the PSA that ICE put on the websites they forfeited.  What he leaves out, of course, is that the PSA was both created by and <b><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/02385514537/why-is-federal-government-running-ads-secretly-created-owned-nbc-universal.shtml">owned</a></b> by NBC Universal -- something ICE has never publicly admitted, but which we found out via FOIA requests.  It's still shocking that a government agency would be using misleading propaganda from a private company and pretending that it's an official government production.  Even worse, despite numerous requests, ICE has failed to show any proof that it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111007/11541716249/did-ice-pirate-its-anti-piracy-psa.shtml">properly licensed the video</a> from NBC Universal, leading us to wonder if they "pirated" it.
<br /><br />
ICE under John Morton has become a massive joke and a disgrace to American ideals of innocent until proven guilty and important things like free speech and due process.  Rather than making this joke of a video (which certainly has Hollywood-style production... I wonder how that happened...), Morton should be issuing apologies for the mistakes that were made under his watch, and tendering his resignation.  Instead, he's celebrating?  Sickening.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120106/03474817298/ice-propaganda-film-pats-itself-back-censoring-web-promises-much-more-to-come.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120106/03474817298/ice-propaganda-film-pats-itself-back-censoring-web-promises-much-more-to-come.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120106/03474817298/ice-propaganda-film-pats-itself-back-censoring-web-promises-much-more-to-come.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>ICE Seizes Another 150 Domains As SOPA/PIPA Debate Heats Up</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Torrentfreak was the first to point out that Homeland Security's ICE group has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-130-domain-names-in-mass-crackdown-111125/" target="_blank">ramped up their domain seizures</a>, seizing <a href="http://www.dailychanges.com/seizedservers.com/2011-11-25/" target="_blank">131 domains</a> on Friday.  <strike>They also <a href="http://www.dailychanges.com/seizedservers.com/2011-11-28/" target="_blank">grabbed one more</a> today.  That last one is interesting, since the seizure came on a .com that was actually <i>transferred from a DNS provider in Australia</i>, which raises additional questions about ICE's jurisdiction here (though may explain why the transfer came two days later)</strike>.  <b>Update</b>: that last one looks like it was a prank.  However, ICE has <a href="http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1111/111128washingtondc.htm" target="_blank">officially announced that it seized 150 domains</a> -- and of course, timed it to coincide with "Cyber Monday."  Nothing like the feds propping up a marketing campaign.
<br /><br />
It looks like, as it has done recently, most of these seizures focused on trademark issues with sites selling counterfeit goods.  These are somewhat less troubling than some of last year's seizures of blogs and forums that had tons of protected speech -- and which appeared to link to content that was sent by copyright holders directly for promotional purposes.  Still there are significant questions concerning the legality of such seizures, with ongoing challenges.  It kind of makes you wonder if ICE is ramping up these seizures for a reason.  The challenges concerning its authority to do so continue, while SOPA and PIPA, which would expand its ability to do these kinds of seizures, has been running into more speedbumps than expected.  So might as well seize as many domains as possible before the party ends...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/01460616907/ice-seizes-another-150-domains-as-sopapipa-debate-heats-up.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/01460616907/ice-seizes-another-150-domains-as-sopapipa-debate-heats-up.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/01460616907/ice-seizes-another-150-domains-as-sopapipa-debate-heats-up.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Philippines IP Office: Anti-Counterfeiting Meeting Isn't About Kowtowing To Corporate Interests... Except That It Is</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this year, the US government admitted that it was <a href="http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2011/04/26/us-mission-to-fund-wipo-work-on-counterfeits/" target="_blank">funding</a> special programs in conjunction with WIPO (the World Intellectual Property Organization) to help push anti-counterfeiting enforcement efforts around the globe, despite tons of evidence that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml">counterfeiting isn't a big problem</a>, and actually is massively smaller than the industry makes it out to be.  That US funding led directly to a secretive meeting in the Philippines, that was entirely one-sided, focusing solely on companies and their desire for greater enforcement against counterfeits.
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Over the weekend, however, Cory Doctorow <a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/10/22/wipos-secret-corporate-run-trademark-enforcement-meeting.html" target="_blank">called WIPO out on this meeting</a>, noting that it wasn't even on WIPO's website, and appeared to go against WIPO's own agenda concerning recognizing the "broader societal interests."  This resulted in WIPO giving a <a href="http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2011/10/24/wipo-defends-involvement-in-ip-enforcement-meeting-in-the-philippines/" target="_blank">weak defense</a> of the event -- while also distancing itself from the event (saying it was only part of the first two days -- and the rest were from the Philippines government).
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That, in turn, resulted in this somewhat hilarious attempt at <a href="http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2011/10/25/philippines-ip-office-our-meeting-is-not-fostering-corporate-greed/?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A ip-watch %28Intellectual Property Watch%29" target="_blank">a defense of the event from the Philippines IP Office</a>.  The IP Office first denies that this is a one-sided event designed to help big sponsoring companies... and then goes on to <i>admit that's exactly what it was about</i> in the very next sentence:
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&ldquo;Strictly speaking, the workshops sponsored by these corporations will, of course, teach our law enforcement officers how to act in the interest of those business entities,&rdquo; observed Ricardo R. Blancaflor, Director General of Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines (IPOPHL). &ldquo;However, it is also true that these brands are the most pirated in the country. They have lost a lot of profits due to piracy.&rdquo; 
</i></blockquote>
That's very convincing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111026/02540916518/philippines-ip-office-anti-counterfeiting-meeting-isnt-about-kowtowing-to-corporate-interests-except-that-it-is.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111026/02540916518/philippines-ip-office-anti-counterfeiting-meeting-isnt-about-kowtowing-to-corporate-interests-except-that-it-is.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111026/02540916518/philippines-ip-office-anti-counterfeiting-meeting-isnt-about-kowtowing-to-corporate-interests-except-that-it-is.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>that's-a-denial?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:02:58 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Homeland Security Finally Admits To Latest Domain Seizures; Arrests Guy For Selling Unauthorized 'Sons Of Anarchy' T-Shirts</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few weeks back, we wrote about a bunch of new domain seizures by Homeland Security's ICE division, and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/10533315148/why-hasnt-ice-been-talking-about-its-latest-domain-seizures.shtml">wondered</a> why ICE hadn't said anything publicly about them.  Well, it's finally put out an announcement <a href="http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/USDHSICE-ca283" target="_blank">about these domain seizures</a>, including the fact that it had the operator of one site arrested for selling counterfeit <i>Sons of Anarchy</i> apparel.  That guy, Ryan Breen, now faces 10 years in jail and fines up to $2 million.  It seems there's a fair bit of irony in the fact that DHS/ICE is so thrilled about busting a guy selling apparel for a TV show that plays up an outlaw motorcycle gang known for its illegal weapons trafficking.  Let's celebrate the gun runners... and punish the guy who made some t-shirts with 10 years in jail, huh?  I have to admit that I'd much rather see Homeland Security and ICE actually focus on protecting the country, rather than some guy in upstate NY selling some t-shirts to fans of a TV show.  And, of course, once again, it appears that most of the domains seized were taken without any notice, without any opportunity for the domain holders to respond.  ICE has made it abundantly clear that they don't care about due process or the First Amendment in seizing domains, and frankly I find that a lot more troubling than some guy selling t-shirts online.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/17011315305/homeland-security-finally-admits-to-latest-domain-seizures-arrests-guy-selling-unauthorized-sons-anarchy-t-shirts.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/17011315305/homeland-security-finally-admits-to-latest-domain-seizures-arrests-guy-selling-unauthorized-sons-anarchy-t-shirts.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/17011315305/homeland-security-finally-admits-to-latest-domain-seizures-arrests-guy-selling-unauthorized-sons-anarchy-t-shirts.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>feeling-safer?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:12:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Why Hasn't ICE Been Talking About Its Latest Domain Seizures?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/10533315148/why-hasnt-ice-been-talking-about-its-latest-domain-seizures.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ In the last few weeks, Homeland Security's ICE division has once again been seizing servers.  TorrentFreak <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/ice-continues-to-seize-counterfeit-domain-names-110717/" target="_blank">noticed a group of five domains</a> seized recently, and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=l333t">SD</a> pointed us to details of <a href="http://www.dailychanges.com/seizedservers.com/2011-07-09/#tab=in" target="_blank">five more domains seized</a> a little over a week earlier.  From the domain names, it's clear that ICE is mostly focusing on sites that sell counterfeit goods right now, which is slightly less controversial.  Pretty much all of the names (e.g. lacosteshoesmall.com and newerahatss.com) involve some sort of brand name.  The site owners are unlikely to protest because they're likely engaged in trademark infringement.  However, that doesn't make the legality of simply seizing such domains prior to an adversarial hearing any less questionable.  It's just that ICE is doing the same thing that police have been known to do with drug dealers: seize stuff knowing that the people they're taking from don't want to go to court.  It basically becomes a license for law enforcement to steal.
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Of course, it's highly questionable how effective any of this.  Maybe it makes someone sitting in an ICE office excited, but the counterfeiters are still counterfeiting and still selling their goods.  Hiding their website doesn't do much to stop anything.  But perhaps a bigger question is why ICE isn't hyping up these seizures?  Perhaps it's trying to avoid all of the backlash when it screws up?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/10533315148/why-hasnt-ice-been-talking-about-its-latest-domain-seizures.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/10533315148/why-hasnt-ice-been-talking-about-its-latest-domain-seizures.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/10533315148/why-hasnt-ice-been-talking-about-its-latest-domain-seizures.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>the-new-quiet-strategy?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:14:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Carla Bruni Sues French Newspaper For 'Counterfeiting' After Posting Clip Of Her Singing WWII Song</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-docket-carla-bruni-sues-171499" target="_blank">Eriq Gardner</a> points our attention to the news that French first lady and singer Carla Bruni is <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/8401331/Carla-Bruni-sues-French-newspaper-over-song.html" target="_blank">suing a French newspaper</a> claiming "counterfeiting," after it posted a 50-second clip of her singing <i>Douce France</i>, a 68-year-old song by Charles Trenet.  As Gardner notes, in the US, this would almost certainly be fair use.  But, in France... apparently it's considered "counterfeiting," because the snippet heard "was a simple draft version, a preparatory work and not a definitive recording."  Is it any wonder that her husband, Nicolas Sarkozy, has been working hard to make sure France has the most draconian copyright laws around?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110328/03032713651/carla-bruni-sues-french-newspaper-counterfeiting-after-posting-clip-her-singing-wwii-song.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110328/03032713651/carla-bruni-sues-french-newspaper-counterfeiting-after-posting-clip-her-singing-wwii-song.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110328/03032713651/carla-bruni-sues-french-newspaper-counterfeiting-after-posting-clip-her-singing-wwii-song.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:27:27 PST</pubDate>
<title>Ron Wyden Speaks Out Against COICA: We Shouldn't Toss Out The First Amendment Just To Go After A Few Bad Actors</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110216/11305113129/ron-wyden-speaks-out-against-coica-we-shouldnt-toss-out-first-amendment-just-to-go-after-few-bad-actors.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Senator Ron Wyden (who just <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/RonWyden" target="_blank">joined Twitter</a>) was kind enough to send over <a href="http://wyden.senate.gov/issues/issue/?id=3ad1419c-9af9-4779-b575-f1b3f48b83dc" target="_blank">the remarks he made to the Senate Judiciary Committee concerning COICA</a>.  It's an excellent read that highlights many of the points we've been making.  Basically, he says that we need to be careful not to decimate basic principles of free speech and create all sorts of collateral damage in an effort to go after a few bad actors who can be targeted via other laws:
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Make no mistake, I share the committee's goal of fighting counterfeiting and protecting our creative industries and the good paying jobs they support. The Internet has unquestionably created new opportunities to traffic in counterfeit and illegal goods. The fact that the law has not always kept pace with technology may make it easier for bad actors to exploit new opportunities. Congress is right to want to go after those who are "stealing American intellectual property." However, in writing laws to target the bad actors, Congress cannot afford to forget that the primary uses of the Internet are activities protected by the First Amendment, not civil or criminal violations.
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[...]
Yes, the Internet needs reasonable laws and bad actors need to be pursued, but the freedoms of billions of individual Internet users cannot be sacrificed in the interest of easing that pursuit. The decisions we make to police the Internet today will also govern how this relatively new medium will continue to develop and shape our world. I objected to last year's Combating Online Infringement of Copyrights Act not because it might reduce the Internet's ability to facilitate infringement, but because I believe it went about it in a way that would also reduce the Internet's ability to promote democracy, commerce and free speech.
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He also laid out six specific points to consider in dealing with these issues.  I agree with all six, and am particularly happy to see him mention the importance of separating counterfeiting from copyright protection, a key point that we've discussed here, but I had not seen anyone in politics pick up on until now.
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<li><b>Don't be hasty</b>. Good public policy is not made on the back of a galloping horse. While both Congress and law enforcement are understandably eager to go after bad actors, both must be mindful of the precedents that they are setting in the U.S. and around the world. The law is best applied when the government's assertions can be challenged before its actions are approved.
</li><li><b>Avoid collateral damage</b>. Granting law enforcement broad authority to censor online content has a chilling effect on free speech. Narrowly focus law enforcement&rsquo;s authority on those who are deliberately breaking the law or infringing on others&rsquo; property rights for commercial gain.
</li><li><b>Preserve Fair Use and secondary liability protections</b>. These safeguards are fundamental to Internet commerce and explain why American companies have been so successful in the global marketplace. The network effect is such a powerful driver of commerce on the Internet that any restriction on links and referrals is a serious barrier to economic activity.
</li><li><b>Be mindful of how remedies can threaten and shape the integrity or architecture of the Internet</b>. Decisions made today can have lasting results.
</li><li><b>Avoid taking actions that will empower foreign regimes to censor the Internet</b>. The United States has led the world in promoting free speech; our example cannot be allowed to give authoritarian regimes any excuse to go backwards.
</li><li><b>Recognize the difference between copyright infringement and counterfeits</b>. A one-size-fits-all approach towards trademarks and copyright may not be appropriate.
</li></i></ol>
Once again, it's great to see Senator Wyden speaking out on these issues, but it's shame that he remains one of our only elected officials willing to pay attention to the problems with COICA and domain seizures.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110216/11305113129/ron-wyden-speaks-out-against-coica-we-shouldnt-toss-out-first-amendment-just-to-go-after-few-bad-actors.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110216/11305113129/ron-wyden-speaks-out-against-coica-we-shouldnt-toss-out-first-amendment-just-to-go-after-few-bad-actors.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110216/11305113129/ron-wyden-speaks-out-against-coica-we-shouldnt-toss-out-first-amendment-just-to-go-after-few-bad-actors.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:25:39 PST</pubDate>
<title>Jim D'Addario Defends His Support Of COICA &#038; Domain Seizures</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I recently posted the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml" target="_blank">list of companies that signed a letter</a> addressed to Attorney General Eric Holder and DHS' ICE boss John Morton, supporting the seizure of domain names that the government believes are involved with copyright or trademark infringement.  This included support for both the ongoing "Operation in Our Sites" program by ICE and for the proposed COICA bill which would extend the power of the government to seize domains prior to any adversarial hearings or trials.  That list has kicked off some interesting discussions, but Jim D'Addario, the CEO of D'Addario and Company, famous makers of guitar strings, stopped by in the comments to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml#c1829" target="_blank">defend his decision to sign onto the list</a>.  A few folks asked me to respond, and I figured it would be best to do so in a new post.  First, I'll repost what D'Addario said, and then respond:
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You really should visit and talk to some companies that are living this experience. There is no way to file a legal law suit in every instance someone is stealing my D'Addario Strings trademark. We are family owned business in the USA with sales of $150 million. Sounds big, and rich and all that!!! However last year we spent $750,000 on legal battles and got nowhere. We would be bankrupt trying to protect the 1000 jobs that we provide here in the USA. We are not General Motors, IBM or NIke. The scale is not there.
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If we were allowed legitimate access to the Chinese market and the Chinese were not counterfeiting our product we would be able to create 200 to 500 more jobs in the USA.
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Don't paint everyone with a broad stroke of the brush. Telling the companies on the list to work harder is an insult. We work as hard as we possibly can already (its 5:30 AM where i am right now and dont stop working until 6:30 PM.
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I have personally visited stores in four Chinese cities to see 7 out of 10 sets of my brand of strings are fake. The packaging is perfect, right down to the American flat and the words "Printed and Made in USA". The strings are shxt.
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I wonder how that would make you feel if you started a brand name from nothing in 1974 and built it to the largest in the world only to watch people completely rip it off.
<br /><br />
So your suggestioin to me is to work harder and sue everyone? I may as well close up or cash out and watch the 1000 jobs evaporate. Or better, maybe i should move the factory to China and destroy another 1000 US jobs?
<br /><br />
Go on Alibaba.com and witness the hundreds of thousands of fake product listings. There is nothing on the site that is real or legitimate. At some point the government has to take some kind of police action. This is not just a civil matter, there are criminal (grand larceny) implications here.
<br /><br />
I agree there should be due process before a site is shut down. I dont know what that process should be, but when threre is clear evidence submitted to a government agency that a site is selling fake merchandise the government should have some authority to put a URL on hold until they can defend themselves. Let the theives absorb the burden of defending themselves, don't expect the legitimate folks to foot the bill.
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How is possible for the public to ask the legitimate manufacturers to bear the role of the government and police every instance of fraud with a law suit? It would be tens of millions of $$$ a year.
<br /><br />
Learn more before developing such strong views and 'black listing' good people.
<br /><br />
Jim D'Addario - CEO D'Addario and Company
</i></blockquote>
I can definitely understand where D'Addario is coming from.  It's the same position that many of these companies are coming from: they're afraid of the changing marketplace.  And, yes, when you see counterfeit products in the market, it's understandable that you would get angry and accuse people of ripping you off.  Finally, lawsuits are expensive and time-consuming.  But, with all due respect to D'Addario, I think he's making an emotional response to a complex issue without realizing the full implications of the position that he's supporting.
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First of all, he overestimates the "damage" done by counterfeit products.  We've pointed to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100829/21095710809.shtml">study</a> after <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091202/1503337167.shtml">study</a> that suggest the "harm" done by counterfeits is not nearly as bad as most companies believe.  That's because most buyers are <i>not being fooled</i>.  They tend to know upfront that they're buying counterfeits, and choose to anyway.  In other words, they're not doing so as a replacement, but because they'd prefer the counterfeit (often due to pricing), even knowing that it's of inferior quality.  However, the studies have also shown that buyers of counterfeit goods quite frequently later "upgrade" to the real version.  The counterfeit purchase is <i>aspirational</i>, rather than a substitution.
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So, rather than simply assuming the worst about such things, perhaps a better response is to recognize that this is a sign that a lot of people really like his product and want it.  From that, the focus should then be on making the legitimate version available, and really <i>reaching out</i> and <i>connecting</i> with the community of D'Addario enthusiasts (of which there are many), and letting them know where and how they can purchase legitimate D'Addario strings, and even giving people additional incentives to buy the legitimate ones.  In other words, out-compete the copycats.  If those strings really are crappy, then help people learn how to buy the real deal, and offer them incentives to do so.  
<br /><br />
And, yes, I know that D'Addario already does quite a lot on this front.  It has plenty of community features and works hard to connect with fans.  The point then is to trust those fans to actually support you.  Time and time again we've seen that companies who treat their fans and customers right and with respect, and don't freak out about "thieves" and "pirates," see quite a nice return.  Trust your customers, let them know what's going on and they support you.  It seems like that's also likely to be a lot more satisfying than worrying about some copycat.
<br /><br />
The fact is some people will always buy some cheap strings out there that may be copycats.  Those people were unlikely to buy the legitimate strings in the first place, so why even worry about them?
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The part I  find most troubling in D'Addario's response is this part:
<blockquote><i>
I agree there should be due process before a site is shut down. I dont know what that process should be, but when threre is clear evidence submitted to a government agency that a site is selling fake merchandise the government should have some authority to put a URL on hold until they can defend themselves. Let the theives absorb the burden of defending themselves, don't expect the legitimate folks to foot the bill.
</i></blockquote>
The first two sentences suggest, at the very least, that D'Addario didn't know what he was supporting in signing.  He says that there should be due process before a site is shut down.  But the two things the letter supports do not provide due process before a site is shut down.  In fact, they barely provide any after the site has been shut down.  We're talking about months later before sites are even directly informed about the seizures.  The claim that the domains should be "put on hold until they can defend themselves" simply goes against the basic premises of American law, and the concept of innocent until proven guilty.  At the very least, if the concern is that the sites should be shut down quickly, then let the government file for a preliminary injunction in which the site can defend itself in a quick adversarial hearing <i>before</i> the site is taken down.  The fact that he automatically calls people thieves, despite a lack of conviction, again goes against the basic principles of due process.  It's also wrong.  These people are not thieves.  Thieves steal your actual product so you don't have it any more.  They may very well be <i>infringers</i> and <i>counterfeiters</i>, but calling them thieves is incorrect and an emotional response to what is, certainly, an emotional issue.
<br /><br />
No one doubts that sites selling counterfeit products is a scary issue for many companies.  But that's no reason to throw out the legal books and basic due process, and support gov't-backed censorship of websites on a "guilty until given a chance to prove innocence many months later" process.  Yes, this puts some burden on legitimate companies, but that's the price we pay for believing in due process in the US.
<br /><br />
I would hope that Mr. D'Addario would reconsider his support for these programs, and instead admit that perhaps he was a bit hasty in supporting efforts that are half-baked and have already resulted in the blatant censorship of legitimate speech in the form of certain blogs.  If he truly wants help responding to counterfeiters, at the very least, he should be horrified at what's been done already falsely in the name of stopping counterfeiting and infringement.  He should instead, be putting pressure on these officials to focus on more clearly defined laws that actually tackle the problems, rather than broadly worded laws that result in clear censorship.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Marketplace's Misleading Report On Fashion Copyright</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been covering the extremely misguided idea for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060912/162115.shtml">fashion copyright</a> for a while now.  If you're just catching up, the fashion industry can't copyright its designs in the US, and the industry has thrived <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070405/194853.shtml">because</a> of that lack of copyright.  It helps do a few different things: specifically encouraging more and more innovation and new designs, while also segmenting the market and spreading trends faster.  And yet, a few designers (including those caught <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100722/03120410318.shtml">copying others</a>) have been pushing for a special government monopoly to limit competition and slow down innovation.  There's simply no justification for it -- and many in the press have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100820/16194310714.shtml">been pointing that out</a>.  Yet, the word on the street is that after years of failed attempts, this fashion copyright bill has a pretty good chance of passing, despite the fact no one involved can point to a single reason why it's needed.  What's really stunning is that whenever the press seems to talk to supporters of this bill, I've yet to see or hear <i>any</i> of them, ask them about all this research on how copyright would <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100823/02293810724.shtml">harm</a> the industry, or ask them even to explain why such a copyright is needed in such a thriving industry.
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American Public Radio's Marketplace show recently ran an interview with professor Susan Scafidi, who's been one of the major backers of fashion copyright.  While I'm not a regular listener to Marketplace, Jay Rosen recently wrote a piece explaining why he thinks it's <a href="http://jayrosen.posterous.com/arming-us-not-with-knowledge-of-but-acquainta" target="_blank">one of the worst programs</a> on the radio.  I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but I'll say that this interview doesn't do it any favors, and is hugely problematic in how incredibly misleading it is.  The interviewer, Kai Ryssdal, regularly confuses a few topics and doesn't challenge some whopper assertions from Scafidi.  It's pretty sad.
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It starts out with Ryssdal talking about counterfeit goods, and then asking Scafidi:
<blockquote><i>
Can you copyright a design? I mean, you can't copyright a book title, can you?
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Already, we're starting out on the wrong foot.  Counterfeit designs and design copyrights are really two different topics.  <i>Counterfeit</i> goods that pretend to be designer products violate trademark laws, in that they're falsely pretending to be a work by someone else.  The fashion copyright question has nothing to do with the counterfeit market.  It's about other designers and some "fast fashion" houses that create similar (but cheaper) designs targeting the lower end of the market.  Counterfeiting is really a trademark issue -- and is already against the law, but has nothing to do with copyright.  Conflating the two is really bad, and confuses the issue totally, falsely giving the impression that fashion copyright is about protecting designers from counterfeit goods sold in alleyways.
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Scafadi's response mentions trademark, but does so in a way that implies that using trademark in such cases is a "creative" use of the law:  She does nothing to point out the vast difference between counterfeit goods and fast fashion copiers:
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Kai, no, you cannot copyright a fashion design in the United States at this point. However, I have been very involved working on legislation that would permit copyrighting of fashion designs, or rather a very, very short-term form of copyrighting -- a three-year copyright. A good fashion lawyer needs to know the basics of the intellectual property system, but also get creative and borrow from areas of intellectual property law that might apply. We're talking about the trademarks that protect labels and logos, for example. So it's about getting creative with the lot out there and learning to apply it to the special needs of the fashion industry.
</i></blockquote>
An interviewer who actually understood the issues would challenge the vagueness of the statement, and the easy conflation of counterfeits and fast fashion copiers -- which the copyright law is targeted at.  Instead, Ryssdal goes right back to implying that counterfeits were the problem, leading Scafadi to then make totally unsubstantiated claims about "harm" from counterfeiting:
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Trying to shut down counterfeits and knock-offs is a little bit like trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon. I think that the consumer doesn't always understand the potential harm from carrying that fake Louis Vuitton purse. And the harm is particularly intense when it comes not to the big companies, but to the little ones, the ones whose names you might not even know but whose designs are stolen, sometimes even before they can get those designs to market.
</i></blockquote>
Again, someone familiar with the topic would dig in and question this, especially since <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml">study</a> after <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091202/1503337167.shtml">study</a> after <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100829/21095710809.shtml">study</a> has suggested this isn't true at all.  Who needs facts?  The studies all seem to show the same thing.  The "harm" to brand name producers is not found.  Most people buying counterfeits <i>know</i> they're counterfeits -- so it's not as if they're being deceived (what trademark law is supposed to prevent).  Furthermore, the studies have found that counterfeit purchases are <i>aspirational</i>, rather than <i>substitutes</i>.  That is, the people who buy the counterfeits really want to buy the real version, but know they can't afford them... yet.  However, a very large percentage eventually do buy the legitimate version.  If anything, the counterfeits act as market segmentation and promotion for the brand name designers.  Scafadi ignores all of this research, and Ryssdal simply takes her assertion as true.
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Ryssdal then finishes off the interview, by asking Scafadi to explain the "movement" she's trying to create, where she makes some ridiculous, and frankly insulting, claims about the fashion industry, and how it needs to be "protected" because it's a part of our "culture" now whereas it wasn't in the past:
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 The idea of design being part of our culture is also part of what's making it more possible to respect and protect design. Once upon a time, fashion was that frivolous thing that girls did, that women did, maybe some gay men did, but surely not the upstanding members of the bench and bar who were attired in their pinstripes or their black robes. Now, as fashion becomes more and more part of American culture, it becomes something that we respect, and therefore something that we protect, as a key element of our economy and as a creative medium that we find enchanting and engaging. So fashion law is catching up with how the culture is starting to perceive fashion.
</i></blockquote>
My grandfather worked in the garment industry in NYC for many years, and I don't think it was ever considered a "frivolous thing that girls did, that women did" etc.  It's been a pretty serious business for quite some time in New York.  And you don't protect something with copyright because it's "something we respect."  Copyright is designed to serve one purpose and one purpose only: to create the incentives to spur innovation ("to promote the progress").  This is basic stuff that both Scafadi and Ryssdal should know and should admit.  Considering that the fashion industry is highly competitive and highly innovative, there isn't any actual evidence that such a copyright is needed.  And Ryssdal never asks any such question about it, and instead helps Scafadi make the case by pretending the whole copyright issue has something to do with counterfeits.  It's a disappointing and misleading piece of journalism, which Scafadi abused to push her "movement" by misleading listeners.

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<title>Hey NY Times: Can You Back Up The Claim Of $200 Billion Lost To Counterfeiting?</title>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's getting really frustrating watching the supposedly professional press repeat stats that have been thoroughly debunked as if they're factual, so I think it's about time that people started calling out the publications and reporters who make these mistakes directly.  So, Stephanie Clifford, reporter for the NY Times, can you give <i>any evidence</i> whatsoever to support the claim that you made in your article this past weekend that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/business/economy/01knockoff.html?_r=2" target="_blank">counterfeiting "costs American businesses an estimated $200 billion a year?"</a>  I don't think that Clifford can, because that number has been thoroughly debunked time and time again.
<br><br>
Back in 2007 we <A href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070504/130335.shtml">wrote about</a> a study by the well-respected GAO which noted that <a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07735.pdf" target="_blank">industry claims on counterfeiting</a> were massively overblown.  The GAO looked at the actual data and found that, contrary to claims from the industry that 5 to 7% of world trade involves counterfeit materials, the research they've seen shows it happening in less than 1% of trade and the value of those goods was significantly lower.  Of course, obviously, those trying to pass counterfeit goods across the border will do their best to hide it, the evidence of the supposed 5 to 7% is totally lacking.
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Soon after that, we wrote about a similar <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070510/040317.shtml">OECD report</a> that tried to look at how big an issue counterfeiting really was.  After it was announced (before the actual report came out) that the OECD numbers were going to show that the $200 billion number was totally bogus, there was lots of talk of "pressure" being put on the OECD to still support the $200 billion number.  Eventually, the <a href="http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/36/36/39543399.pdf" target="_blank">actual report</a> (pdf) came out, and the OECD hedged its bets by claiming that, even though the data didn't support it, counterfeiting <i>could be</i> a problem that cost <i>up to</i> $200 billion.  Lots of weasel words.  But since the data was actually there, some enterprising reporters, like Felix Salmon, actually looked at the details and found the real number appeared to be <a href="http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/10/26/counterfeiting-much-less-prevalent-than-you-think/" target="_blank">more like $5 billion</a>.  Still an issue, but hardly $200 billion.  That link amusingly goes through the report to figure out how it came up with the "up to $200 billion" claim, and finds that the OECD, repeatedly basically says "well, this part seemed low, so we doubled it."  And then they get to the next number and say "well, this seemed low, so we doubled it again."  They end up doing that a bunch of times -- compounding the wild ass guess even further just to make the industry happy.
<br><br>
But where did that actual $200 billion number come from?  Well, back in 2008, Julian Sanchez famously went to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/10/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars/1" target="_blank">hunt down the origins of the claim</a>, and found that it was always totally made up.  Sanchez tries to track down where the number first came from, and finds it all <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/10/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars/2" target="_blank">dates back</a> to a claim made in a 1993 Forbes article.  That article claims counterfeiting is a $200 billion problem, but gives no citation or explanation, but that's the original citation if you trace back everyone else who's claiming $200 billion.  It's just made up.  From 20 years ago.  And the NY Times is still relying on it despite all of the research debunking it?
<br><br>
And, of course, all of these numbers tend to come from the industry itself, who has every reason to make the numbers sound bigger than they really are.  In fact, all of this ignores more recent studies that have shown the claim of "losses" from counterfeits almost certainly massively overstates the problem, because a significant number of the people who are buying counterfeit goods (1) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091202/1503337167.shtml">know they're buying counterfeit goods</a> and (2) at a later date, when they can afford it, often upgrade to the real version.  In other words, the counterfeit isn't a "loss" at all, but a market entry point for those who never would have bought otherwise.
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So, considering that we have two respected organizations (the GAO and the OECD) showing that the $200 billion number is massively exaggerated, followed by good reporters like Felix Salmon and Julian Sanchez pointing out the real number is much lower, and the basis for the $200 billion number is more or less made up... why is a respected publication like the NY Times still citing it as if it were factual?  Of course, I don't mean to just pick on Stephanie Clifford or the NY Times, because plenty of reporters seem to repeat this number without thinking, but it's about time that people started calling them on it, and asking them to back it up with evidence or stop using it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/17431810439.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Even US Intellectual Property Organization Concerned About ACTA Being Too Broad &#038; Changing US Laws</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While those involved in the ACTA negotiations have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100527/0120329597.shtml">mocked</a> the concerns raised about the ACTA draft, and said that those who are complaining are merely repeating "wild internet rumors."  Of course, we've seen that's not the case at all.  A <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100428/1416549224.shtml">recent filing</a> about ACTA, put together by a bunch of industry groups, highlighted many of the very real problems with ACTA.  Of course, ACTA defenders still dismissed this, because they claimed that the report came from those industries who benefited from weakened IP laws.
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I wonder how they'll try to belittle this one.  The Intellectual Property Owners Association (IPO) recently sent <a href="http://www.ipo.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&#038;TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&#038;CONTENTID=26212" target="_blank">its own letter to the US government complaining about the scope and specifics of ACTA</a> (pdf).  The Intellectual Property Owners Association is not exactly the sort of organization you can accuse of wanting weaker intellectual property.  It's also not an organization that I agree with very often (as you might imagine).  But, in this letter, the group points out that ACTA appears to be way too broad and that, contrary to claims from ACTA negotiators, it seems clear that it would require changes to US law.
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The letter first points out that ACTA should focus on the <b>real</b> problem of counterfeiting, but that the language (without any good reason) is made much broader with a focus on all "intellectual property":
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As currently drafted, given the expansive use of the broadly-defined term "intellectual property," ACTA goes far beyond addressing the subject matter of counterfeiting. This broad definition encompasses issues that are most appropriately handled as civil infringement causes of action in most jurisdictions around the world, and especially so in the case of the United States.
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Separately, the letter goes on to highlight multiple cases where ACTA would, in fact, change US law:
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We believe ACTA potentially changes United States law by transforming what are the commonly occurring non-counterfeit-types of civil action infringements into activity that is to be punished under federal criminal law.
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Among the examples of how it changes US law as currently written is the following:
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ACTA is unwittingly broadening the scope of the seizure power of Customs and Border Patrol forces to encompass civil action trademark infringement and raising the specter of potential abuse in many countries around the globe. The determination of whether marks are similar and whether there is a likelihood of confusion should not be conducted hastily and in an ex parte manner by a border official, but should instead be based upon the appropriate legal analysis (possibly resulting from extensive pre-trial preparation and discovery where allowed).
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Elsewhere, it notes that other language choices in the document clearly turn civil infringement into criminal infringement, and that it potentially makes keyword buying on trademarked terms on search engines infringing (even as US courts have mostly found that it is not infringing).  As a final recommendation, the IPO suggests that ACTA actually be about what it's supposed to be about, which is counterfeiting:
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Thus, IPO urges USTR to review ACTA to ensure that the scope of the Act is appropriately limited to its stated purpose of addressing the limited, though important, subset of infringement known as "counterfeiting."
</i></blockquote>
So here we have a major pro-intellectual property trade group complaining about the scope and nature of ACTA -- and specifically highlighting that it will change US law, despite insistence by negotiators that it would not.  Are we now going to be told that the Intellectual Property Owners Association is a "front" for the anti-IP interests, as we were told about the groups who signed onto that last anti-ACTA document?
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In the meantime, on the question of whether or not it will change laws, it's worth noting that both the US and the EU keep insisting that ACTA won't change any laws (which makes some people question why it's being done at all).  <a href="http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/18340267849" target="_blank">Glyn Moody</a> points us to a recent note from the EU negotiators insisting that <a href="http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=545&#038;Itemid=9" target="_blank">ACTA won't change EU law either</a> (despite pretty clear evidence that it would).  Yet, other negotiators have admitted that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100629/10381810004.shtml"><i>some countries</i></a> might need to change their laws, but won't say who.  It must be Morocco...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/02222310172.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/02222310172.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/02222310172.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>ACTA Negotiators Respond To Questions About ACTA; More Of The Same</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Yesterday, we wrote about plans for some civil society groups to meet with ACTA negotiators with a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/2221079975.shtml">list of 10 questions about ACTA and ACTA negotiations</a>.  Sean Flynn has now sent over a report from the meeting, as well as his quick transcription of the responses to the questions.  First, his summary (with my emphasis on key points):
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On June 28, 2010, at 7:30pm Swiss time, a group of civil society representatives met with 21 ACTA negotiators. The negotiators included representatives (21 in all) from the Switzerland, France, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Mexico, Japan, U.S., Morocco, Canada and Korea....
<br><br>
It was agreed that, reflecting civil society's objectives to represent and report back to the broader public, this meeting would be on the record. The following are notes taken by Sean Flynn, American University Washington College of Law's Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property. These notes are direct quotes to the best of my note taking ability and memory. But others at the meeting may have more complete notes in some areas. Rohit Malpani of Oxfam and Sanya Smith of TWN were also taking notes. 
<br><br>
The questions raised were given to the negotiators in advance and the answers were represented as those of the collective views of the negotiators rather than of an individual negotiator unless otherwise indicated. Unless otherwise indicated, the speaker is the chair of the Swiss Delegation who was appointed to speak for the group.
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There are a couple news items here.
<ul>
<li> First, there is an "emerging consensus" to take patents out of the border measure chapter, but
<b>not</b> out of the rest of the agreement. Some parties appear to desire to take patents out of the whole text. The EU appears to be in favor of leaving patents in the civil chapter. The change appears to be a rather direct result of concerns raised by access to medicines advocates. 
<br><br>
There are still major concerns on access to medicines and free flow of goods in the border chapter. Negotiators seem committed to requiring in transit seizure and it is possible (although there seems some division) that it will include common trademark infringements and non-commercial scale copyright infringement, thus <b>reaching far beyond TRIPS standards</b>.
<br><br>
<li>There was an admission that countries may have to change their laws to comply with ACTA. That may not be real news, but I have not heard it admitted by a delegate before. But the EU continued to press that they will not change their laws.
<br><br>
<li>There seemed to be little desire to remove or narrow considerably the internet chapter. <b>There was a desire by some delegates to ensure that DMCA-like protections are in the ACTA internet chapter</b>.  Several discussed (off line) the desire to combat "file sharing," even apparently when not done on a commercial scale.
</ul>
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I agree with Flynn that this is the first time I've heard any negotiator admit that this might change laws.  We've heard negotiators from the US, EU and elsewhere all claim that this wouldn't change laws at home, but we hadn't found anyone willing to admit that it would change laws elsewhere.  As for that last point, it's really disappointing that these negotiators still want to cram something totally unrelated to actual counterfeiting into this bill, and do so in such a ham-fisted manner that doesn't take into account important realities in the marketplace, but instead interprets the situation exactly as a small contingent of companies wants them to see the situation.
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As for the full Q&A including both questions listed yesterday and some followups, Sean provides the following account, with my commentary in between:
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<b>Q: Will negotiators commit to continue releasing the text of the Agreement following completion of this week's negotiating round and subsequently until the completion (or abandonment) of negotiations?</b>
<br><br>
 A: This is a question that the delegation takes up at end of each round. This will be a question to be discussed and agreed by consensus.
<br><br>
On issue of public comments, this is a plurilateral process and each country will have to take that into account. It is not as if the ACTA group is a formal organization. For a plurilateral agreement, we have promoted a great deal of transparency already more than in other agreements.
<br><br>
<b>Q. Wait. In other processes (e.g. anything done at WIPO or the example of the Doha declaration) civil society got access to text before and after each round. That has not been the case here. We received text once, after years of negotiations and close to what you declared to be the end point of the discussions.</b>
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A. Those are multilateral negotiations. This is a plurilateral negotiation. We do not have a secretariat to assist with such matters. This has been an extremely transparent process. 
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This is a huge cop-out of an answer.  First of all, this hasn't been anywhere close to an "extremely transparent process."  The whole thing has been totally secret other than bland content-less press releases.  The full document was released once after nearly a year of public screaming about it and a huge slap down by nearly the entire EU Parliament.  Claiming that there's some sort of different issue between plurilateral negotiations and multilateral ones is hiding behind semantics.
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<b>Q:     Are negotiators reviewing the text of the Agreement to ensure it is fully consistent with the WTO TRIPS Agreement? Will the WTO or other independent legal experts be asked to review the text of the Agreement to ensure it is legally consistent with WTO rules? Will you provide clear and objective information regarding the evidence base upon which ACTA is purportedly justified, as far as international law, access to medicines and Internet are concerned? </b>
<br><br>

A: This is in the process of being negotiated. It is clear that parties are WTO members and they have rights and obligations under WTO. This does not change if they should join ACTA. There is dispute settlement possibility. If there is a question of compliance then another interested WTO member could invoke dispute settlement. With regard to the press release of the 8th round, the negotiators declared that the ACTA will be consistent with TRIPS and Doha. 
<br><br>
On the question of the evidence base -- the ACTA countries are seriously concerned about the phenomena of growing counterfeiting and piracy. We will not cite one particular figure or study. Taken together the development cannot be denied. Whether it is about real or intellectual property it is the government's duty to provide effective enforcement. More effective enforcement standards are needed to address this phenomenon. 
</i></blockquote>
Incredible.  No evidence is provided at all nor do they commit to providing any evidence.  Instead, it's just "trust us, we know there's a problem."  Ridiculous.  Faith-based policy making which actually contradicts the evidence, which the negotiators refuse to look at.  Shameful.
 
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<b>Q: Criminal sanctions are being negotiated, which imply the usage of police & judiciary systems, as proven by the presence among the negotiators of the EU Presidency. How can you justify any legitimacy for criminal sanctions (which highly impact fundamental freedoms) being negotiated outside of any democratic frame, in the secrecy of what is much more than a "trade agreement"? </b>
<br><br>
A: I think here it is important to point out that the ACTA negotiations are no different than other inter party negotiations. If at the end the agreement should contain additional obligations for a party compared to a country's laws, implementation of the ACTA will necessitate that it will adjust its national legal situation. For most countries, simply the approval of ACTA is dependent on parliamentary approval. Thus we very much do believe that the democratic process is being complied with. And this process of consulting with stakeholders is evidence of that commitment.  
</i></blockquote>
This is the point mentioned in the summary about admitting that some countries will have to change their laws.  But, again, the answer is extremely misleading.  It pretends that, after ACTA is signed, sealed and delivered, various countries might then choose not to implement parts of it via the democratic process.  This (very much on purpose) ignores what these negotiators know happens in these situations, which is that the industry supporters, who wrote the trade agreement, then go on a massive PR/government relations campaign declaring how this or that country is "not living up to its international obligations," and highlights how that country is falling behind and damaging this particular industry because it won't change its laws to meet those "international obligations."  It happens all the time.  It's not a truly democratic process at all, because the scales are weighted so heavily that it's nearly impossible for countries not to agree.

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<b>Q: What is the prevailing definition of a 'counterfeit' amongst negotiators?  With respect to pharmaceuticals, is it the official position of negotiators that medicines which are suspected of patent infringement are counterfeit?  If not, will you commit to ensure that the entirety of ACTA excludes patents from the scope of the agreement as the inclusion of patents is unrelated to the issue of counterfeit, and poses significant risks for access to medicines in developing countries?  </b>
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A. The issue of definitions is still under negotiation. The only definition currently in the text is for counterfeit trademark goods, which reflects the TRIPS agreement. 
<br><br>
As regard to risks to access to medicines in developing countries, which is a concern also raised in question 5: As far as border measures is concerned there is an emerging consensus that patents should not be included in border measures.
<br><br>
<b>Q. The concern about patents is much broader. The April draft mentions patents in every section of the text, at least in brackets.</b>
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A. I can only say that there is an emerging consensus on patents being taken out of border measures. 
<br><br>
<b>Q: Should customs authorities be authorized to seize medicines in 'transit countries', even when the medicines do not infringe any laws in the producing or importing countries?  Will you commit to ensure that any inclusion of ex officio action and/or in-transit seizures is optional and not mandatory for countries? If permitted, do negotiators maintain that customs officials in exporting, transit or importing countries are capable of determining whether medicines infringe patents or whether a pharmaceutical product is 'confusingly similar'?  Should there be any anti-abuse provisions included? 
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Follow up question: You said that there is an emerging consensus to take patents out of border measures, but you did not comment on the broader question of applying transit measures to all trademark infringement was opposed to the more limited set of true criminal trademark counterfeiting. Nor did you address the question of whether there will be transit seizures authorized based on the law of the transit country rather than the law of the country of importation, as TRIPS Art. 52 requires. 
</b>
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A: We see trademarks and patents as different. We see justification to have trademark in the scope of border measures. This is the most common practice we are trying are trying to respond to. There is little justification for someone who chooses a mark that is confusingly similar, to the degree that it cannot be distinguished from the original mark.
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<b>Q. You seem to be confusing two standards in your answer. The standard that a mark cannot be distinguished from the original -- that it is identical or intended to be identical -- is a criminal counterfeit. But the concept of trademark infringement is much broader, at least in U.S. law. The question is whether you are applying the same border measure seizure standards to alleged counterfeits as to alleged confusingly similar trademark violations which are normally a civil matter and involves more complex legal and factual determinations. Do you understand the distinction we are making? </b>
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A: A mark that is confusingly similar is counterfeit.
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(A from Susan Wilson, U.S.): Wait a minute. There are civil, criminal and administrative remedies for multiple kinds of trademark violations. But there are only criminal sanctions for counterfeiting -- using an identical label. The category of confusingly similar is only subject to civil remedies in most countries. There is a distinction there. Confusingly similar is not the counterfeit legal standard. 
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<b>Q. Thank you. And the question is whether the confusingly similar standard of trademark infringement, as opposed to counterfeiting, is being included for consideration for in transit seizures of goods, ex officio [on the official's own instigation, without a complaint], based on a suspicion or prima facie evidence. That is the Amoxicillin case and it worries access to medicines advocates. Is that still on the table or is there an emerging consensus to remove that standard?</b>
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 A: There is no emerging consensus. It is still on the table in the border chapter.
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What a mess.  It appears that the negotiators here don't even quite realize the extent of what they're negotiating and the potential impact of their negotiations.  Having one negotiator claim that "a mark that is confusingly similar is counterfeit" is scary in its ignorance of what was being discussed.
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<b>Q: Could negotiators list out the relevant anti-abuse provisions in ACTA to ensure that rights holders do not use the Agreement to expand intellectual property protection for products, including medicines?  ACTA currently contains no pro-consumer provisions and minimal protections for an alleged infringer, alongside maximum privileges and incentives for a right-holder to allege infringement (including extraordinarily limited liability for abuse of recourse measures).  The enforcement provisions are universally mandatory while the protections are optional.  There are virtually no references to exceptions and limitations, or to TRIPS flexibilities and safeguards.  Do negotiators feel that sufficient balance has been achieved under the Agreement?
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A: ACTA delegates would like to make clear that ACTA is not about substantive standards. It is not to expand existing rights. With regard to alleged infringers, the agreement may not directly address this issue. National law on the protection of consumers will apply to implementation at the national level. 
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ACTA delegates do consider that ACTA provides for exceptions. E.g. the de minimus provision has been proposed by some parties and is being considered.
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With regard to maximum privileges to prohibit abuse, I can point to parts of the draft permitting rights holders to request customs authorities to assist with border measures and the authorities may ask for security before asking for assistance.
</i></blockquote>
Here I'll let Flynn handle the commentary himself:
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One consistent problem with the April draft is that is incorporates some but not all TRIPS protections from abuse, balancing provisions and proportionality requirements. The de minimus provision referred to is a direct quote from TRIPS. But in many other areas the agreement repeats or expands a TRIPS enforcement measure but omits any reference to the accompanying abuse protection or balancing feature in TRIPS. The Washington Communique notes, for example, that ACTA fails "to fully protect and incorporate key protections against abuse (e.g. Articles 41.1, 48.1, 48.2, 50.3, 53.1, 56), flexibilities to promote public interests (e.g. TRIPS Art. 44.2), requirements for the proportionality of enforcement measures (e.g. Arts. 46, 47), and provisions providing for balance between the interests of proprietors, consumers and the greater society (e.g. TRIPS Arts. 1, 7, 8, 40, 41.2, 41.5, 54, 55, 58)."
</i></blockquote>
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Onwards:
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<b>Q: Are negotiators aware that the Agreement could create third party liability for suppliers of active pharmaceutical ingredients whose materials may be used in mislabeled products without their knowledge?  What are the reasons for holding suppliers of active pharmaceutical ingredients unknowingly liable for mislabeled products? </b>
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A: Liability is still under negotiations. Under national laws, liability depends on knowledge and fault. These national standards will still apply in this context.
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<b>Q: ACTA can become a very strict text should certain proposals be followed, not leaving much room to maneuver for its application. Are contracting parties foreseeing to include in the agreement exceptions to preserve the public interest or flexibilities allowing for adaptation to different national realities? Will you remove institutional measures in which ACTA Member countries attempt to export heightened TRIPS-plus IP protections to other countries, and in particular developing countries
</b>
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A: All the parties are negotiating to enter this agreement in an autonomous, voluntary manner. ACTA parties see that the agreement they would like to fashion will leave parties free to implement as they see fit in their national system. 
</i></blockquote>
Again avoiding the actual reality on the ground.  One of the problems that we've noted with the ACTA text is that while it "leaves parties free to implement as they see fit," it has some pretty severe restrictions on how free they really are to implement things.  So, for example, while it doesn't technically mandate three strikes, it makes it clear that a three strikes regime would meet ACTA's requirements... and provides no other alternatives.  So you're free to implement however you want, but the only way you can assure you're in compliance is to implement it the way they want you to.  To paraphrase Henry Ford, the negotiators are saying:  "You can implement it however you want, so long as it's the way we want you to."
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<b>Q: How do you guarantee that policies required to benefit from liability safe harbour for Internet service/access providers won't have the effect to force them to restrict fundamental freedoms -- such as freedom of expression and communication, privacy, and the right to a fair trial -- turning them, via contractual policies, into private copyright police/justice?</b>
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A:  It is important to recall that ACTA parties have expressed concern about fundamental rights after Wellington. We are aware of the importance of this matter and we have made clear . . . It is clear that ACTA parties are bound by human rights declarations and their own constitutions. ACTA will obviously have to comply with those norms.
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<b>Q. but you think encouraging companies to take down expression is respecting rights? This is how you make enforcement comply with freedom of expression?
</b>
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A. from French delegate: You think in EU we live in a totalitarian state? Is France a dictatorship? Have you no rights in France? 
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<b>Q. That is not my question. </b>
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A. I am telling you it will comply with EU law. Are you saying EU does not comply with fundamental freedoms?
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<b>Q. It is companies that collect the information. You are encouraging the companies to use that information in ways that, if done by the state, would violate fundamental privacy protections. Is that promoting fundamental rights?</b>
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A (French): Is France a totalitarian state? Is it? 
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<b>Q: No, that is not what I am saying. Ok, fine. You have addressed the issue. Lets move on.</b>
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Wow.  The French delegate seems a bit touchy on that topic, huh?  The question was not claiming that France or the EU was a totalitarian state at all.  Just how do they ensure free expression when the text of the agreement seems to very much go against that by encouraging companies to filter or block certain forms of speech aggressively.  Bizarre that rather than answer the question the delegates responded with such a strange attack on the questioner.
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<b>Q: There have been no open hearings or other engagements with civil society since the text was released. Will you commit for the establishment of consistent mechanisms for the ongoing engagement of civil society? More generally, how are you going to fix the process to encourage greater public deliberation on the record, with access to text, and in a meaningful setting? And how are you going to fix all of the specific concerns raised in the previous questions and in all the critics upon ACTA made until now?
</b>
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A: This is the responsibility of each ACTA country itself. This is underway. It is happening according to the rules and practices of each member. It is a country choice. 
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Another cop-out answer.  Rather than admitting how secret and closed off the negotiations have been, the negotiators are just passing the blame, by saying it's not their issue to actually engage representatives from civil rights groups and civil societies.  Besides, the response is again off-base.  If the whole point of meeting with these groups is to understand the concerns of them and their constituents, it should be the negotiators who are <i>seeking out</i> such meetings.  Once again, this response makes it clear that the negotiators' marching orders are not to come up with the best solution for each of the societies and countries they represent, but of a very narrow group of special interests.  This is no surprise, but the answer basically confirms that they know this.  Very sad.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100629/10381810004.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100629/10381810004.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100629/10381810004.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>India Gearing Up To Fight ACTA; Seeking Other, Like-Minded, Countries</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While the various governments supporting ACTA continue to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100527/0120329597.shtml">insist there's nothing wrong with it</a>, clearly more and more people are realizing that there are some massive problems with it, and we're not talking about the usual group of activists.  It seems that India -- which is in the middle of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100422/1533599145.shtml">reviewing</a> its own copyright law -- is quite worried about ACTA.  It's looking to <a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/India-plans-front-to-nip-new-piracy-law/articleshow/5986902.cms" target="_blank">team up with "like-minded countries" to oppose ACTA</a> and to hold talks with countries who agree to ACTA to explain why they're worried about it.  India's main concern appears to be over some of the proposals that would continue to allow the seizure of <i>legal</i> generic drugs passing through other countries, something that has been a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090807/0312375803.shtml">huge problem</a> for the Indian healthcare system.
<br /><br />
Meanwhile, others elsewhere are seeing problems as well.  Ray Dowd, a copyright litigator who writes an <a href="http://copyrightlitigation.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">excellent blog</a> on copyright issues, is getting himself up to speed on ACTA and <a href="http://copyrightlitigation.blogspot.com/2010/05/from-eff-anti-counterfeting-treaty-is.html" target="_blank">seems horrified</a> by what he's reading.  He admits that he expected that the scare stories online that he'd been reading would prove to be exaggerations, but he now thinks that people aren't concerned <i>enough</i> about ACTA:
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So when I finally got around to reading the text of ACTA, I thought that I would find the concerns I'd seen floating around the internet to be a little overblown.
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In fact, I think that the concerns of the EFF are understated.   I am not so concerned about confidential negotiations to give trade representatives some time to brainstorm.   But the text appears to be so one-sided as to appear to have been spoonfed by certain aggressive Hollywood rights-holders who don't think anyone can make fun of Mickey Mouse and that anyone crossing a border should be frisked for a fake Louis Vuitton handbag.
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I am surprised that ISP's and technology users seem to have had so little input into the process.
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He notes that he's all for a true anti-counterfeiting agreement, but he's surprised that the government is using this to shoehorn in all sorts of things that have nothing to do with copyright:
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What is counterfeiting?  In my humble estimation, it is knowingly making large quantities of exact copies of a trademarked, patented, or copyrighted good with the intention of selling such large quantities to defraud consumers and the rights holders.
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Thus, any anti-counterfeiting treaty would have the elements:
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1. exact copies or copies intended to be so similar that a consumer could not tell the difference;<br />
2. protected goods;<br />
3. large quantities (500?) (2,000?);<br />
4. intent to defraud consumers and rights holders.
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Some kid copying stuff to his Ipod is not counterfeiting.   Even 2,000 songs.
<br /><br />
So anyone labeling a treaty "anti-counterfeiting" and that does not have the foregoing elements is trying to pull a scam on me.
</i></blockquote>
His conclusion sums up what many of us have been saying for quite some time:
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ACTA appears to be an attempt to tie Congress's hands in terms of domestic copyright legislation, rather than a legitmate attempt to pursue counterfeiting.
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But, of course, according to various folks at the USTR and the Copyright Office, now that ACTA's been released, it's proven that all the "fears" from online sources were misguided.  Right?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100601/0354539639.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100601/0354539639.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100601/0354539639.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>ACTA Set To Cover Not Just Copyrights &#038; Trademarks, But Seven Areas Of IP</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The folks who created ACTA were already sneaky enough in describing it as an "anti-counterfeiting" agreement, when they knew all along it went way beyond issues related to counterfeiting.  For a while, it's been obvious that it was also very much (perhaps more than counterfeiting) about copyright, but it's actually about much more than that.  We already mentioned that it is designed to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100303/0128078382.shtml">cover patents</a> as well.  Now, KEI has looked at another leaked draft document, and notes that the draft sneaks in the fact that it's designed to <a href="http://keionline.org/node/812" target="_blank">cover seven different areas of intellectual property</a>.  In typical sneaky fashion, it doesn't come out and list them directly, but in the definitions section, defines "intellectual property" as "refers to all categories of intellectual property that are the subject of section 1 through part 7 of Part II of the Agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights."  Basically, it's saying that it's accepting the definition in a totally different document, from TRIPs.  So, what's in that document?
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<li>Copyright and Related Rights </li>
<li>Trademarks </li>
<li>Geographical Indications </li>
<li>Industrial Designs </li>
<li>Patents </li>
<li>Layout-Designs (Topographies) of Integrated Circuits </li>
<li>Protection of Undisclosed Information </li>
</ol>
Note how little of that has <i>anything</i> to do with counterfeiting -- which is mostly just a trademark issue.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100322/1217518658.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100322/1217518658.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100322/1217518658.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>USTR Insists Gov't Isn't Keeping ACTA Secret</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Stan McCoy, the assistant US trade rep, is apparently the new point man from the USTR office on jaw-dropping political doublespeak about ACTA.  You may recall a few days back when McCoy insisted that there was a lot of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100202/0216227999.shtml">misrepresentations about ACTA</a>, but <i>failed to clarify <b>any</b> of them</i>.  Instead, he started talking about the dangers associated with counterfeiting (something no one denies) and then simply wrapped copyright infringement into that -- even though copyright infringement and counterfeiting are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100129/0630057974.shtml">entirely different</a>.  Now, McCoy has gone even further.  <a href="http://twitter.com/jamie_love/statuses/8639620009" target="_blank">Jamie Love</a> points us to a letter he sent the Financial Times, where McCoy <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27dc0fd6-1147-11df-a6d6-00144feab49a.html" target="_blank">insists that there is great openness about ACTA</a>.  He kicks off with another bogus attempt to blur the lines between counterfeiting and copyright:
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Intellectual property protection is critical to jobs and exports that depend on innovation and creativity. Trade in counterfeit and pirated products undermines those jobs and exports, exposes consumers to dangerous knock-offs from toothpaste to car parts, and helps fund organised crime.
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See the switcharoo in the middle there?  He starts of talking about intellectual property... but then in the middle lumps counterfeiting and infringing (which he falsely calls "piracy" even though he's not talking about what's happening off the Somalia coast) together, and then at the end he's really only talking about counterfeiting, but to the untrained observer, they still think he's talking about copyright infringement.  That's political bullshitting.  And I won't even get into the evidence that raises serious questions about whether his first sentence is true at all, but will mention there's a lot of data that suggests IP actually limits jobs and slows down innovation and creativity.  But, at this point, I think McCoy has already established that the USTR is not a fact-based organization.
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The ACTA negotiations are one of many international efforts to fight counterfeiting and piracy -- not to "transform" already strong US and European Union copyright laws. Far from keeping them secret, governments participating in these negotiations have sought public comments, released a summary of issues under discussion, and enhanced public engagement.
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Okay.  Pick your jaws up off the floor.  That last sentence is so ridiculous and so false; it's amazing he thought that he could get away with it.  Exactly which governments have "sought public comments" on ACTA?  The answer?  None.  Why?  Because <i>no government</i> has yet revealed what ACTA is officially.  Hell, in the most recent ACTA negotiations, held in Mexico, the government wanted to force the public to sign NDAs just to attend a <i>public meeting</i>, and then had industry representatives <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/1026457875.shtml">mocking public concerns</a> and demanding that a blogger leave the proceedings for live Tweeting the meetings.  Yes, "sought public comments" indeed.  Does he think that if he says day is night people just believe him?  And the idea that the government is "far from keeping [ACTA] secret" is pure hogwash.  A comparison of ACTA secrecy to similar negotiations suggest that ACTA is being kept <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091119/1904177017.shtml">exceptionally secret</a>.
<br /><br />
Furthermore, if the laws are already strong, then what's the point of ACTA?
<blockquote><i>
Among other things, the summary states clearly that "ACTA is not intended to interfere with a signatory's ability to respect its citizens' fundamental rights and civil liberties".
</i></blockquote>
Oh, well, if the <i>summary</i> states it, then why didn't you say so in the first place?  Obviously there's nothing to worry about at all.  Except... it doesn't appear that the <i>actual documents</i> follow what the summary says.   Of course, we've only seen the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091103/1308526784.shtml">"leaked" documents</a>, but they certainly suggest plans to interfere with fundamental rights and civil liberties on a pretty widespread basis.  Supporters of ACTA even <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100111/2149377710.shtml">talk about</a> "dragging countries in the 21st century" by forcing on them DMCA-type laws and requiring secondary liability that flat out violates basic fundamental rights.  The fact that the "summary" says so isn't convincing, Mr. McCoy.  It just highlights that you're hiding what the document actually says.
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<title>Seriously: Where Is The Link Between Copyright Infringement And Terrorism/Organized Crime</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Over the past few years, the entertainment industry has been pushing hard on the claim that copyright infringement and organized crime (or terrorism) are somehow <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/0154525394.shtml">connected</a>.  It's a regular <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091101/1818186751.shtml">talking point</a> and is often brought up in discussions about ACTA.  And yet, where is this supposed link?   Glynn Moody <a href="http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/01/eus-gallo-report-rubbish-recycled.html" target="_blank">discusses what a bogus concept it is</a>, and why a new EU report is massively discredited in simply taking the claim at face value:
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I've noted several times an increasingly popular trope of the intellectual monopolists: since counterfeiting is often linked with organised crime, and because counterfeiting and copyright infringement are vaguely similar, it follows as surely as night follows day that copyright infringement is linked with organised crime.
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But, of course, that's not the case.  In fact, those who traffic in things like counterfeit DVDs are discovering that unauthorized access to online files is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070319/012548.shtml">actually harming</a> the counterfeit DVD business that organized crime has used in the past.  Based on the logic put forth by the entertainment industry, shouldn't we cheer on The Pirate Bay for putting DVD counterfeiters (and thus, organized criminals and terrorists) out of business?
<br /><br />
Moody goes on to challenge the idea that copyright infringement leads to people being put in harm's way:
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*Counterfeiting* can certainly be a threat to consumer health and safety, and needs to be combated vigorously, but the idea that copyright infringement might be is simply risible, and it's an insult to our intelligence even to suggest it.
</i></blockquote>
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<title>NY Police Destroy Counterfeit Clothes Rather Than Giving Them To The Homeless</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week there was a big controversy over the fact that some stores in NY were caught <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/nyregion/07clothes.html" target="_blank">destroying unsold garments</a> rather than donating them to charities.  After people got upset, the main store in question, H&#038;M promised that this wouldn't happen again.  This week we've got a related, but somewhat different story, as the NY Police have admitted to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/nyregion/13about.html?hp" target="_blank">shredding and burning the counterfeit clothes they've confiscated</a>, rather than giving them to the homeless, as had always been done in the past.  When asked to explain why, the police claimed "no one asked" for the confiscated clothing -- but many charities insist they had, in fact, made many requests for the clothing.  Apparently, the destruction is being felt at clothing banks, who say they have many fewer clothes on hand this year than in the past.  
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Not surprisingly, a lawyer representing various clothing designers was quite happy with the news, saying that they don't want those clothes "back on the street," which suggests that the designers may have pushed for the police to destroy the clothes rather than help the needy.  Of course, it's worth pointing out -- yet again -- the recent study that showed most people <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091202/1503337167.shtml">are not fooled by counterfeits</a>, and they rarely represent a "lost sale."  In fact, many counterfeit purchases lead to real purchases later on.  So the idea that they act as a "substitute" or somehow "harm" a brand is not actually borne out by the research.  And, of course, some companies have learned that there are ways to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20090921%2F0413036268&#038;threaded=true&#038;sp=1">embrace counterfeiting</a> to their own advantage, as a form of price differentiation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100113/0748147727.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100113/0748147727.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100113/0748147727.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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