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<pubDate>Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:52:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Fake Sandy Tweets Spark Widespread Debate About The Limits Of Free Speech</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Yesterday we had a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121030/14473520889/being-jackass-twitter-shouldnt-be-illegal-public-shame-should-be-enough.shtml">post about Shashank Tripathi</a>, the "internet jackass" who, posting under the name @comfortablysmug on Twitter, shared some bogus reports during Hurricane Sandy, such as claiming that the NY Stock Exchange floor was flooded and that the local power company was preemptively turning off power.  The story has generated a fair bit of interest, and follow up discussions that are pretty interesting.  I wanted to tackle three particular threads that have come out of the discussion.
<ul>
<li> Greg Ferenstein at TechCrunch argues that I'm wrong in saying that public shame is as far as punishment should go for Tripathi.  Instead, he argues that <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/31/panic-inducing-rumors-over-twitter-during-a-hurricane-should-be-illegal/" target="_blank">such speech should be illegal</a>, because while other comments can moderate speech in normal times, at exceptional moments there somehow isn't time to understand that Tripathi wasn't being truthful:
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The case against public shaming is that, during a crisis, Twitter isn&#8217;t a magical marketplace of ideas, where citizens are given sufficient time to weigh competing claims and come to a reasonable conclusion. Adrenalin is pumping, there&#8217;s not enough time for credible sources to sniff out the truth, and people get hurt.
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To which I can only respond: <i>who got hurt</i> because of his tweets?  The answer is no one.  No one was busting out of their safe apartment to rush dangerously down to the NYSE to see the (non-)flooded floor.  Yet, because of populist anger, it appears that at least one NY politician is <a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/councilman-pushes-for-charges-against-twitter-user" target="_blank">pushing to press charges</a>.  I think this is bogus, and any smart prosecutor will note that the chances of success are slim at best.
<br /><br />
</li><li>Moving on, Mathew Ingram at GigaOm raises a different question: whether it was <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/when-does-community-action-against-an-anonymous-troll-become-a-lynch-mob/" target="_blank">even appropriate to out Tripathi</a>.  He fears that the backlash against Tripathi could go overboard and "community action against an anonymous troll" could all too easily turn into "a lynch mob."  In some ways, this is the <i>opposite</i> argument of Ferensteins.  Both are basically asking: "but what if this leads to harm?"  They may be valid questions to ponder -- and we've certainly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/2001052815.shtml">worried</a> about the possibility of "lynch mobs" doing damage based on bad information.  But I'm not convinced that should ever lead to the <i>legal</i> silencing of speech.
<br /><br />
Not surprisingly, there are a lot of emotionally driven opinions on all this -- in fact GigaOm had such a vociferous internal debate among writers/editors at the site that they <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/behind-the-curtain-gigaom-on-comfortablysmug-and-web-vigilantes/" target="_blank">published the internal discussion</a> publicly.
<br /><br />
</li><li>However, I think the most important and insightful piece on this entire story comes from Heidi Moore at the Guardian who put the whole story in perspective by <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/31/superstorm-journalists-check-twitter-troll" target="_blank">making a few key points that were missed</a> by almost everyone arguing about the story.
<ol>
<li>If you looked at Tripathi's other tweets, it became really obvious really quickly that he was posting crap/jokes -- mostly for the semi-amusement of his few thousand followers.  For example he <a href="https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/263081585677586432" target="_blank">fake retweeted</a> a bogus tweet from Goldman Sachs saying: "In a city underwater, the vampire squid is king" and similarly <a href="https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/263080257555402752" target="_blank">fake retweeted</a> Barack Obama's account saying that NYC residents should eat their dogs if they run out of food.  These aren't particularly funny, but it sort of puts in context the kinds of tweets he was posting, such that you could see how his followers would mostly know that he was just tweeting stupid stuff not to be taken seriously.
</li><li>Given that, the <i>real problem</i> here was not with Tripathi acting like a jackass clown, but with professional journalists and organizations -- including the National Weather Service and CNN -- who retweeted his other bogus tweets, lending them a veneer of truthfulness where none existed.
</li><li>Moore also points out that this is nothing like a "fire in a theater" situation because there is no harm.  Hell, as she points out, there is no "theater" where the fire is supposedly being claimed here:
<blockquote><i>
For one thing, where was the theater? People in New York were largely trapped at home. Were they really going to run screaming into the streets, unable to handle the idea of the New York Stock Exchange being flooded? Were emergency responders going to stop answering calls to ferry over to the Stock Exchange to prevent water damage to the floors? Would people turn off their generators, hoping to save power for the day when stocks could be traded again? No, no and no.
<br /><br />
As one fund manager at a $6bn hedge fund concisely put it on Twitter: "Is it really the end of the world if the floor floods? This is just getting stupid."
</i></blockquote>
</li><li>She notes that if anyone should be called out here, it should be the journalists who repeated the tweets without any sort of confirmation.  To those who say that it was in the heat of the moment, even that is questionable.  Sure, there was as rush for journalists to be the first to retweet some news, but that's an issue for the journalists to deal with.  Most people were just hunkered down dealing with the storm, not rushing off to deal with any of this.  And if those journalists had done even the slightest research, they would have realized the tweets were bogus -- either by looking at his full feed, or even looking at how others had responded to his tweets.  Moore makes a strong case:
<blockquote><i>
<p>Here's the thing: while what Tripathi did was stupid, inappropriate, ill-timed and loathsome, the reaction to it was entirely out of scale to the actual offense. The truth is, Tripathi had a relatively small niche on Twitter. His influence would have been limited had not journalists on Twitter been desperate for information to share, regardless of provenance.</p><p>He was not the person who affixed those headlines atop legitimate news sources: journalists, who should have checked their sources and did not, used their power of the press to popularize the claim and bring it into people's homes.&nbsp;The decision to <em>publish</em> Tripathi's information was made by journalists, even when his persona and the nature of the information called for skepticism.</p><p>In fact, the <a href="https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/263083953152466947">first responses to his tweet on the NYSE, from non-journalists</a>, were as follows: "That's bullshit"; "What are the sources for your links?"; "confirmed by whom?" and "you are a liar."</p>
</i></blockquote>
</li></ol>
</li></ul>
I think the three stories above show a variety of different responses, with Moore's being the most compelling by far (and that's not to criticize either Ingram or Ferenstein -- both of whom I know and consider to be friends). However, it does show how <i>complex</i> some of these issues really are.  It's really easy to see something like this as black and white, mainly by looking at things from a single perspective, without the context.  Guy tweets bogus information in the middle of a crisis?  String him up!  Except... when put in context, perhaps what he did was silly and childish, but was it the real problem?  Probably not.  That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with outing him through old fashioned journalistic sleuthing (it's a different story if it had been via subpoena... though that's a whole different post).  
<br /><br />
But in the end, I stick with the principles that more speech tends to be a good thing -- and free speech should be encouraged, even if that speech is Tripathi's tweets in poor taste.  Remember, free speech doesn't mean that you're free from the consequences of that speech, and Tripathi is dealing with the consequences.  Similarly, outing him through old fashioned journalism is also free speech.  Finally, all of the ongoing discussion is <i>more</i> free speech.  In none of this did anyone get hurt, and (hopefully) no one should need to get charged under the law.  Things seem to work just fine without resorting to the judicial system.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/03134820900/fake-sandy-tweets-spark-widespread-debate-about-limits-free-speech.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/03134820900/fake-sandy-tweets-spark-widespread-debate-about-limits-free-speech.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/03134820900/fake-sandy-tweets-spark-widespread-debate-about-limits-free-speech.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:50:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Rather Than Calling The Lawyers, Why Those Upset At Bad Online Reviews Should Chill Out</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/03470111624/rather-than-calling-the-lawyers-why-those-upset-at-bad-online-reviews-should-chill-out.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall that a few months back we were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100825/02002110771.shtml">threatened</a> with a libel lawsuit over some comments on a very old blog post.  We get similar threats approximately once a month, almost always about someone upset about something someone else said about them in the comments.  Of course, we're protected by Section 230 from liability for such comments (though, the commenters themselves are not), but another point that we've suggested to the folks complaining is that immediately filing a defamation lawsuit may not be in their best interests.  First, within the comments, they are free to respond and give their side of the story.  But, more importantly, the comments in question should be taken in context.  Almost always, the complaint is about some totally ridiculous comment, made in the middle of a long thread, by an anonymous commenter.  It's not exactly the sort of thing that anyone is likely to take seriously.
<br /><br />
Over at Slate, Farhad Manjoo, is making a similar point, in responding to some recent threats made by companies against TripAdvisor and Yelp, over reviews that restaurants and hotels don't like.  Manjoo's basic message: <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2272410/pagenum/all/" target="_blank">chill out and recognize that most people aren't stupid</a>, and that, in context, these particular reviews are unlikely to have much of an impact, because most people are not influenced by a single outlier of a review, but the general sense in all the reviews:
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When we scan reviews online, we aren't looking for gothchas--outlandish, one-off tales of awful experiences. Instead, we look for patterns. We make judgments based on the themes that emerge from many reviews, not from the crazy charges that appear in one or two. As such, there's an obvious way for businesses to improve their online standings. Rather than trying to suppress a few negative reviews, they ought to work like mad to offer the kind of service that inspires a whole bunch of positive reviews.
</i></blockquote>
In other words, the one-off disgruntled person isn't likely to have much of an impact anyway, and if the overall theme of all of the reviews is so negative, then it suggests that there is a real problem that you should work on fixing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/03470111624/rather-than-calling-the-lawyers-why-those-upset-at-bad-online-reviews-should-chill-out.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/03470111624/rather-than-calling-the-lawyers-why-those-upset-at-bad-online-reviews-should-chill-out.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/03470111624/rather-than-calling-the-lawyers-why-those-upset-at-bad-online-reviews-should-chill-out.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:53:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>People Realizing That Viacom's Filings Take YouTube Quotes Totally Out Of Context</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I had pointed this out in a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20100318/1226148617#c421">comment</a> yesterday, but with so many press reports suggesting that Viacom's filing found some sort of "smoking gun" in the YouTube emails concerning founders talking about "stealing" videos, it's worth pointing out that Viacom appears to have taken these quotes totally out of context.  Thankfully, TechCrunch is putting some of them right back into context and noticing that <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/18/viacom-may-be-misrepresenting-youtube-founders-call-to-steal-it/" target="_blank">Viacom is clearly misrepresenting what YouTube's founders were talking about</a>.  The key quote that Viacom (and many in the press) are highlighting is the following:
<blockquote><i>
In a July 29,2005 email about competing video websites, YouTube co-founder Steve Chen wrote to YouTube co-founders Chad Hurley and Jawed Karim, "steal it!", and Chad Hurley responded: "hmm, steal the movies?"
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That looks damning, right?  Except the context shows that they weren't talking about copyright infringement of big name Hollywood content at all.  They were talking about looking at other <i>viral video sites</i> that were popular on the fringes at the time -- usually showing random silly homemade videos that went viral and putting <i>those</i> videos on YouTube.  Furthermore, when you see the full discussion, you can see that in the context, they were <i>joking</i> about taking that content.  Really, they were discussing what kind of site they wanted YouTube to be: should it be for more serious videos, or should they focus on those kinds of traffic-getting viral videos.  In fact, in the context of the discussion, they play up the fact that their content is user-generated, rather than pulled from outside sources:
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SUBJECT: Re:http://www.filecabi.net/
<br /><br />
Jul 29, 2005  1:05 AM, Steve Chen wrote:
<br /><br />
steal it!
<br /><br />
Jul 29, 2005 1 :25 AM, Chad Hurley wrote:
<br /><br />
hmm, steal the movies?
<br /><br />
Jul 29, 2005 1 :33 AM, Steve Chen wrote:
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haha ya.
<br /><br />
or something.
<br /><br />
just something to watch out for. check out their alexa ranking.
<br /><br />
-s
<br /><br />
Jul 29, 2005 7:45 AM, Chad Hurley wrote:
<br /><br />
hmm, i know they are getting a lot of trafficâ€¦ but itâ€™s because they are a stupidvideos.com-type of site. they might make enough money to pay hosing bills, but sites like this and big-boys.com will never go public. I would really like to build something more valuable and more useful. actually build something that people will talk about and changes the way people use video on the internet.
<br /><br />
Jul 29 2005 6:51 AM, Steve Chen wrote:
<br /><br />
right, i understand those goals but, at the same time, we have to keep in mind that we need to attract traffic. how much traffic will we get from the personal videos? remember, the only reason why our traffic surged was due to a video of this type.
iâ€™m not really disagreeing with you but i also think we shouldnâ€™t be so high &#038; mighty and think weâ€™re better than these guys. viral videos will tend to be THOSE type of videos.
<br />-s
<br /><br />
Jul 29 2005 6:56 AM, Steve Chen Wrote:
<br /><br />
another thing. still a fundamental difference between us and most of those other sites. we do have a community and itâ€™s ALL user generated content.
<br /><br />
-s
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Not quite the discussion that Viacom implies.  In fact, the more you look at the full context of almost every quote that Viacom and the press are playing up, the more and more Viacom's entire argument crumbles.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100319/1237138636.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100319/1237138636.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100319/1237138636.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:10:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Putting Jefferson's Quote On Newspapers Into Context</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this year, we took on why journalists who were quoting Thomas Jefferson's famous line: "were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate to prefer the latter" were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090128/0213453555.shtml">missing the point</a>, noting that he really meant <i>journalism</i> not newspapers -- and journalism isn't going away at all.  However, Jay Rosen points out that the <a href="http://jayrosen.tumblr.com/post/99295974/that-jefferson-quote-newspaper-journalists-always-use" target="_new">quote is actually out of context</a>.  The full Jefferson quote even more clearly makes the point that it's not physical <i>newspapers</i>, he's concerned about: 
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"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." -- Thomas Jefferson
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From that quote, it seems likely that Jefferson would be quite a fan of the web <i>and</i> the fact that news on the web was free and widely available -- contrary to the point made by most old school news folks quoting it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090423/1235554624.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090423/1235554624.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090423/1235554624.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:05:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Readers Want Context and Organization, Not Just 'Content'</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Lee</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>I wrote last fall that the <i>New York Times</i> was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071101/220332.shtml">finally starting to get the web</a>, and I think the <i>Washington Post</i> is in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070726/231430.shtml">same category</a> of taking the web a lot more seriously than it did a few years ago. But although the biggest newspapers are now taking the challenge seriously, they still have work to do. Case in point: the Washington, DC, area had a big storm a while back, and Scott Karp went to the <i>Washington Post</i> website expecting (reasonably enough) to find information about it. Unfortunately, despite being a DC-based publication, the <i>Post</i>'s home page <a href="http://publishing2.com/2008/06/04/what-newspapers-still-dont-understand-about-the-web/">had very little information about the storm</a>. Indeed, the home page wouldn't have mentioned it at all if there didn't happen to be a story on the most-read articles list. Unfortunately it was a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060402818.html?nav=hcmodule">formulaic story from the print edition</a> that was great for a non-Washingtonian who doesn't know anything about the storm, but it's not terribly useful to a Washingtonian who can see the storm happening outside his window. What locals need is detailed, real-time information. After seeing nothing relevant on the WaPo's website, he went over to Google, typed in "power outages in northern virginia," and the first hit was a page from Dominion Electric showing power outages around its service region. Karp went back to the <i>Post</i>'s website, and after more searching finally found a <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/">blog</a> focusing on DC area weatherâ€&rdquo;precisely the sort of thing that the Post ought to be making more prominently displayed during major weather events.</p>

<p>I think there are a couple of lessons to be learned from this. First, as Mike has said before, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080414/015112835.shtml">good content is often less important than useful services like organizing and filtering information.</a> The <i>Post</i> had the content Karp wanted -- an up-to-date blog and links to useful resources -- but because its website was poorly organized, he wasn't able to find it easily. Some newspapers <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060918/020228.shtml">claim</a> that Google lives parasitically off of other content producers, but I think this is a good illustration of why that's not true; there was plenty of content out there, but without Google, Karp might not have been able to find it. The other problem is that for all of the <i>Post</i>'s progress  it still seems to regard itself largely as a newspaper that happens to publish its articles on the web, rather than a general media company that happens to publish a paper edition. Sometimes a traditional newspaper article is the best way to cover a story, but often (as in this case) it's not. The <i>Post</i>, like a lot newspaper outlets, still seems to put too much emphasis on its print content, even in circumstances were a shorter, timelier, and more densely-linked story would be more useful to readers.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080609/1105121347.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080609/1105121347.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080609/1105121347.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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