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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:40:30 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Florida Homeowner's Association Sues Resident For Critical Blog Comments, Seeks Identity Of Other Commenters</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I'm not sure what it is about "Homeowners Associations" (HOAs), but I can't recall ever coming across one which didn't involve all sorts of acrimony.  A few years back, I lived in a house that was a part of a (mandatory) HOA.  I was renting, so I didn't really care or pay much attention to any details.  And then, one day I found a bright yellow document sitting on my front step, which had a long and rambling letter from a neighbor who apparently was challenging the HOA on something and the fight had escalated.  He had placed the letter on the front steps of every single house in our neighborhood.  While I don't even recall what the argument itself was about, I <i>do</i> recall him explicitly asking that the police be present at the next HOA meeting, and the phrase: "I fear my life will be taken; I fear my wife will become a widow; if this situation is not brought under control."  The whole thing seemed so bizarre to me -- who would ever take an HOA so seriously? -- that I remember telling people about that phrase, and it's stuck with me.
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And the thing is, every time I ever hear anything about HOAs, it always seems to involve some similar crazy story.  A few months back, we wrote about an HOA president in Indiana <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/16245921669/hoa-president-receives-public-criticism-responds-with-baseless-claims-empty-legal-threats.shtml">going ballistic</a> with bogus legal threats towards pretty much anyone who criticized him.  And now, here's a story out of Naples, Florida, where an HOA for "Fiddler's Creek" is <a href="http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2013-03-18/Collier-County-developer-suing-homeowner-for-defamation#.UVAYRhyR_l8" target="_blank">using homeowners' fees to <i>sue</i> one of their own homeowners</a>, a resident named James Schutt, because he made some comments the HOA board members don't like on a blog about the community.
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You can see the actual comments in <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/627338-001-complaint-and-opening-documents.html" target="_blank">the original lawsuit</a>.  I read them over and my first reaction was "they're suing over <i>that</i>?!"  Basically, it sounds like a typical HOA fight.  Schutt isn't thrilled with how the HOA is being run, and he accuses them of failing their fiduciary responsibility, and he feels that some of the things the HOA pays for -- such as management -- are excessive and possibly corrupt.  You see these kinds of things <i>all the time</i>.  Even if they're not exactly true, they're standard rhetorical hyperbole that happens online.  Get over it and move on.  Instead, the HOA sued.
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It seems pretty clear that this is a SLAPP lawsuit, designed to shut up Schutt and potentially other critics.  Schutt is being defended by Marc Randazza (a name many of you will hopefully recognize) who let us know that the HOA is seeking to depose the blogger and are trying to "out" other anonymous commenters on the blog (to clarify, Schutt is not the blog owner, but was merely a commenter).  The fact that the HOA is now trying to out other anonymous commenters certainly adds weight to the idea that this is a SLAPP suit designed to shut up critics.  The blogger is pushing back but the anonymous commenters themselves might want to find some legal representation to protect their own rights as well, and to make sure that their identities aren't disclosed due to baseless threats that seem designed solely to create a chilling effect on critics of the HOA.
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Did I mention that I no longer live anywhere near an HOA... and I have fantastic neighbors who all seem to get along splendidly with each other?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/02533822450/florida-homeowners-association-sues-resident-critical-blog-comments-seeks-identity-other-commenters.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/02533822450/florida-homeowners-association-sues-resident-critical-blog-comments-seeks-identity-other-commenters.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/02533822450/florida-homeowners-association-sues-resident-critical-blog-comments-seeks-identity-other-commenters.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:49:19 PST</pubDate>
<title>Next Ridiculous Idea To Stifle Online Speech: Irish Senator Says You Should Have To Pay To Post Online</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's a lot of hand-wringing and moral panics around "anonymous commenters" online supposedly saying all sorts of nasty stuff.  Of course, as we've discussed, some of the best comments in our own discussions seem to come from anonymous commenters.  Yes, some leave some crazy comments, but anonymity by itself is not the problem so many people think it is.  Still, an Irish Senator, Eamonn Coghlan, thinks that the way to deal with online commenters he doesn't like <a href="https://mashable.com/2013/03/06/pay-to-comment-online/" target="_blank">is to make them all pay to post any commentary online</a>.  Specifically, he apparently suggested that "the issue of anonymity" could be solved by "getting people to pay to post on social media websites or [to] register their passport numbers for IP addresses."  Because I'm sure that will really help build out the internet, when everyone has to think about whether their latest communication to a family member is worth the money.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/03104722238/next-ridiculous-idea-to-stifle-online-speech-irish-senator-says-you-should-have-to-pay-to-post-online.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/03104722238/next-ridiculous-idea-to-stifle-online-speech-irish-senator-says-you-should-have-to-pay-to-post-online.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/03104722238/next-ridiculous-idea-to-stifle-online-speech-irish-senator-says-you-should-have-to-pay-to-post-online.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:43:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>USTR Only Wants To Hear From You If Some Foreign Country Isn't Maximalist Enough</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For years, we've pointed out how ridiculous the USTR's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=special+301+report">Special 301 Report</a> is.  The report, which the USTR is required to put out each year, is basically a chance for copyright and patent maximalists to launder their complaints about certain countries through the USTR, allowing such complaints to get the official stamp of the US government, such that diplomats can pressure countries to implement really bad laws.  The whole thing is a joke.  Everyone admits that there is no actual objective process that the USTR uses to figure out who has been "naughty" and who has been "nice" when it comes to intellectual property laws.  There is just the USTR going through submissions from copyright and patent maximalists, and deciding who has been named enough to be shamed.
<br /><br />
Three years ago, we actually tried participating in the open comment period and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100216/0234308176.shtml">submitted a comment</a> highlighting the value of not creating a monoculture of maximalism around the globe on these issues, and why merely stamping the industry's claims as legit was probably not a good idea.  The end result?  The same exact crap as before.  Given that this seems to be standard operating procedure for the USTR (and, it's only gotten worse with things like ACTA and TPP), I've not even bothered to submit comments any more.  However, if anyone would care to try, the comment period is open through Friday... but it's interesting to note that the <a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2012/12/31/2012-31336/2013-special-301-review-identification-of-countries-under-section-182-of-the-trade-act-of-1974" target="_blank">instructions for commenting already show that the USTR doesn't want to hear from you</a>.  It's really quite incredible.  The very explanation of what they're asking for <i>pre-supposes</i> a whole bunch of things, and effectively says "only use this to complain about countries who haven't done enough to help your industry -- that's all we want to hear about."
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USTR requests that interested persons identify those countries that deny adequate and effective protection for intellectual property rights or deny fair and equitable market access to U.S. persons who rely on intellectual property protection.
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What about comments from people pointing out countries whose copyright and patent policies are <i>too</i> protective?  Not wanted?
<blockquote><i>
Written comments should include a description of the problems that the submitter has experienced and the effect of the acts, policies, and practices on U.S. industry.
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Not the US public.  Not on US culture.  Just on US industry.  Yes, the USTR is focused on industry, but the very purpose of copyright and patent law is supposed to be to benefit the public.  Shouldn't their interests matter?
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In other words, the USTR doesn't care about the public or your interests.  All it wants to know is how it can better force other countries into over-protectionist policies that benefit a few legacy industries.  You can still submit your own comments, but it seems pretty clear that they don't want to hear from you.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130207/02305321905/ustr-only-wants-to-hear-you-if-some-foreign-country-isnt-maximalist-enough.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130207/02305321905/ustr-only-wants-to-hear-you-if-some-foreign-country-isnt-maximalist-enough.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130207/02305321905/ustr-only-wants-to-hear-you-if-some-foreign-country-isnt-maximalist-enough.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:00:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>TechCrunch Admits That Using Facebook Comments Drove Away Most Of Their Commenters</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130123/03271121761/techcrunch-admits-that-using-facebook-comments-drove-away-most-their-commenters.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I must admit to something of a minor fascination in how other sites manage their comments.  As we've noted many times, we've personally found that keeping our comments pretty wide open fosters the best sorts of discussions in the long run.  Yes, like any sites, there are some users who are annoying, and some who exhibit trollish behavior, but most people can get past that pretty quick.  In fact, at times, those people (while frustrating initially) can spur some really interesting conversations.  One thing we've never quite understood, however, is the attack on anonymity that so many sites insist upon.  As we've seen over and over again, many of our <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121229/00425021519/funniestmost-insightful-comments-2012-techdirt.shtml">most insightful comments</a> have come from anonymous commenters.
<br /><br />
So I was actually surprised a few years ago when TechCrunch moved to switch all of its comments to Facebook comments, claiming that one of the <i>good things</i> about it was that it <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/01/pros-cons-facebook-comments/" target="_blank">required you to provide your real name</a>.  Apparently that wasn't actually such a good thing for lots and lots of commenters -- as after nearly two years, TechCrunch has dumped Facebook comments and is <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/22/we-want-you-back/" target="_blank">pleading for commenters to come back</a>.
<br /><br />
Our comments are obviously far from perfect, but we've never been at a loss for having spirited discussions on nearly all of our posts.   There's just something <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110721/11292415198/if-your-comment-section-is-awesome-its-your-communitys-fault.shtml">awesome</a> about the community that likes to really dig into the various stories.  That's part of why we've always viewed this site as a discussion site, rather than a "news" or "reporting site."  We post stuff with our opinion because we expect people to respond -- good or bad, agree or disagree -- in the comments, and for some sort of discussion to ensue.  That doesn't mean that we like to encourage trollish behavior, but we recognize that encouraging a real community has its benefits, and one key aspect to that is keeping the barrier low.  Too many other sites seem to think the best way to deal with the messiness of some annoying commenters is to make it more difficult to comment.  However, as TechCrunch has discovered, like chemotherapy, it's a solution that can kill off many of the "good" cells along with the "bad."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130123/03271121761/techcrunch-admits-that-using-facebook-comments-drove-away-most-their-commenters.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130123/03271121761/techcrunch-admits-that-using-facebook-comments-drove-away-most-their-commenters.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130123/03271121761/techcrunch-admits-that-using-facebook-comments-drove-away-most-their-commenters.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:59:14 PST</pubDate>
<title>Time Warner's 'Conversation' Website Ditches All Comments; The Conversation Is Just Them To You</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last summer, we talked about a site that Time Warner Cable had launched called <a href="http://twcconversations.com/" target="_blank">Time Warner Cable Conversations</a>, which it insisted would be a "conversation" between it and the public.  As they put it, the goal was "to interact with our customers and to contribute to the on-going conversation about cable."  Except... as we noted at the time, they didn't seem to want to discuss what most customers wanted to talk about.  The "conversation" was limited to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120726/12063919844/time-warner-cable-is-ready-conversation-about-rising-costs-not-one-you-want-to-have.shtml">discussions about TV network deals</a>, just as they were fighting with Time Warner Cable about how much the various networks would cost.  If anyone wanted to "converse" about things they didn't like about Time Warner Cable, such as it's super low data caps, too bad.  The comments on the site were limited and heavily moderated.  Even friendly discussions about data caps were rejected.
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And, now, it appears that TWC has decided to make the "conversation" even less of a "conversation." It has <a href="http://stopthecap.com/2013/01/09/time-warners-conversations-website-goes-one-way-customer-comments-gone/" target="_blank">removed the ability to comment altogether</a>.  So, it's no longer a "conversation."  It's just a marketing brochure.
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This week we checked back and discovered the dialogue had decidedly turned one-way: namely from Time Warner Cable to you. The company deleted the few views that were published on cable television programming costs and removed its comment section altogether.
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Of course, this is how companies like TWC view "a conversation."  They talk.  You shut up and listen.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130110/14200921634/time-warners-conversation-website-ditches-all-comments-conversation-is-just-them-to-you.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130110/14200921634/time-warners-conversation-website-ditches-all-comments-conversation-is-just-them-to-you.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130110/14200921634/time-warners-conversation-website-ditches-all-comments-conversation-is-just-them-to-you.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:59:31 PST</pubDate>
<title>It's Not Defamation To Call Someone A Terrorist Online; Accusing Them Of Putting A Severed Horse Head In A Pool, However...</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In this edition of "Real Life Soap Operas, as Seen Via Court Filings," we have a case involving someone putting a severed horse head into a pool, anonymous accusations, family members accusing family members, blog comments calling someone a terrorist and... wait... a <i>severed horse head in a pool</i>?  Yup.  From <a href="http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2012/2012_08494.htm" target="_blank">the ruling in LeBlanc v. Skinner</a> at the New York State Supreme Court:
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The defendant Wayne Skinner, a former Town Supervisor of the Town of Wawayanda, and his wife, the defendant Karen Skinner (hereinafter together the Skinner defendants), were involved in a number of Town policy disagreements with the plaintiff, David LeBlanc. Wayne Skinner was elected to his position as a Democrat. The plaintiff, a Wawayanda businessman, attended numerous Town Board meetings, voicing his concerns over a variety of issues, including property taxes, and donated money to one of Wayne Skinner's Republican political rivals.
<br /><br />
Nonparty Gail Soro was one of Wayne Skinner's colleagues, and a Wawayanda Town Board member. Soro likewise was an elected Democrat. In July 2006, Soro discovered a severed horse head in her swimming pool. It was never determined who was responsible for the incident. Nonetheless, as could be expected after any incident with such cinematic bravado, public comment ensued. Of relevance here were a number of blog entries posted on a web site allegedly dedicated to community issues and local government, and a number of comments on the local newspaper's web site. These blog entries and comments accused the plaintiff of being responsible for the horse head incident. 
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Yes, this obvious reference to that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avER-t6GL4U" target="_blank">classic scene</a> from <i>The Godfather</i> caught some attention from the wider community, and the court.  As the ruling notes in a footnote:
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While the discovery of any deliberately placed mutilated animal carcass in a family swimming pool would be shocking and noteworthy, the choice of a severed horse head immediately evokes to many the infamous scene from Mario Puzo's novel, "The Godfather," as immortalized in the film directed by Francis Ford Coppola. The scene, probably one of the most iconic in cinematic history, has come to exemplify an act of intimidation through violence, a reminder of power, and a warning that a request or "offer" from a Godfather or leader of an organized crime family should not be "refused."
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That said, the case has little to do with the actual severed horse head, but rather the many, many accusations that flew around following its discovery:
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In the amended complaint, the plaintiff alleged that, with the assistance of Hawkins, the Skinner defendants posted several defamatory statements on the Internet regarding the plaintiff. More specifically, the first and second causes of action in the amended verified complaint alleged that Hawkins, at the request and direction of the Skinner defendants, posted two allegedly defamatory statements regarding the plaintiff on August 29, 2007, and October 6, 2007, respectively, on the now-defunct web site www.wawayandafirst.blogspot.com (hereinafter the Wawayandafirst blogspot). In the third cause of action, the plaintiff alleged that the defendants had posted the following comment on October 30, 2007, at www.forums.recordonline.com, a site run by the area newspaper (hereinafter the newspaper site): "We all know who was behind the Horse Head . . . there is only one man around town dumb enough, violent enough and with a vendetta to do that . . . Dave LeBlanc . . . I hope all this negative publicity on him destroys his business." The fourth cause of action alleged that the defendants posted the following comments on the newspaper site on October 30, 2007: "Dave LeBlanc is a terrorist" and "Who was the one who threw the horse head in Gail's pool . . . check it out: . . . wawayandafirstblogspot.com." 
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The case gets even more complicated when it is explained that "Hawkins" is the nephew of the "Skinner defendants" named above -- and while they were all named as defendants, they quickly turned on each other, with Hawkins claiming he posted stuff online, but entirely at the direction of his aunt and uncle.  The Skinners hit back with a variety of claims as well.
<br /><br />
But the two key points are that the court noted:
<ol>
<li>Calling someone a "terrorist" online isn't defamation.
</li><li>Accusing someone of severing a horse's head and dumping it in a pool, however, could be defamation.
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It's really the first one that's important -- as that scenario is somewhat more likely to repeat itself than the second issue:
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Internet forums are venues where citizens may participate and be heard in free debate involving civic concerns. It may be said that such forums are the newest form of the town meeting. We recognize that, although they are engaging in debate, persons posting to these sites assume aliases that conceal their identities or "blog profiles." Nonetheless, falsity remains a necessary element in a defamation claim and, accordingly, "only statements alleging facts can properly be the subject of a defamation action" (600 W. 115th St. Corp. v Von Gutfeld, 80 NY2d 130, 139, cert denied 508 US 910; see Gross v New York Times Co., 82 NY2d 146, 153). Within this ambit, the Supreme Court correctly determined that the accusation on the newspaper site that the plaintiff was a "terrorist" was not actionable. Such a statement was likely to be perceived as "rhetorical hyperbole, a vigorous epithet" (Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v Bresler, 398 US 6, 14; see Milkovich v Lorain Journal Co., 497 US 1; Immuno AG. v Moor&#8212;Jankowski, 77 NY2d 235, 254, cert denied 500 US 954). This conclusion is especially apt in the digital age, where it has been commented that readers give less credence to allegedly defamatory Internet communications than they would to statements made in other milieus (see Sandals Resorts Intl., Ltd. v Google, Inc., 86 AD3d 32, 43-44, quoting Jennifer O'Brien, Note, Putting a Face to a [Screen] Name: The First Amendment Implications of Compelling ISPS to Reveal the Identities of Anonymous Internet Speakers in Online Defamation Cases, 70 Fordham L. Rev. 2745 [2002]). Accordingly, we conclude that this statement constitued an expression of opinion, and, as such, is nonactionable.
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As <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/12/calling_someone.htm" target="_blank">Eric Goldman highlights</a>, it's good to see more and more courts recognizing that random insults thrown out in online forums shouldn't be treated the same way as, say, a formal accusation in the press.  Context matters:
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...there is now an impressive body of precedent holding that people don't interpret online name-calling literally.  See, e.g., <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/11/another_court_f.htm">Seldon v. Compass Restaurant</a>, <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/10/ripoff_report_a.htm">Chaker v. Mateo</a>, <a href="http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court-appellate-division/1568069.html">Sandals v. Google</a> (cited here), <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/05/online_message.htm">DiMeo v. Max</a>, <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2010/07/private_faceboo.htm">Finkel v. Dauber</a> and others.  I wish this meant that plaintiffs will think twice about suing over online name-calling, but I doubt it.
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Of course, name calling is one thing.  Accusing someone of dumping a severed horse's head in a pool -- if the horse's head really did show up in a pool -- people might take that accusation a bit more seriously. And, as in this case, it could lead to a defamation claim not getting tossed out so easily.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121214/23204121393/its-not-defamation-to-call-someone-terrorist-online-accusing-them-putting-severed-horse-head-pool-however.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121214/23204121393/its-not-defamation-to-call-someone-terrorist-online-accusing-them-putting-severed-horse-head-pool-however.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121214/23204121393/its-not-defamation-to-call-someone-terrorist-online-accusing-them-putting-severed-horse-head-pool-however.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:48:21 PDT</pubDate>
<title>HuffPost Moderates Comments To Please Advertisers [Updated: Or Not]</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121022/12562620788/huffpost-moderates-comments-to-please-advertisers.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <i><b>Update:</b> After hearing from a few people at Huffington Post, it appears that the original explanation from Isaf was unclear, and led us to believe they were moderating comments based on advertiser preferences.  However, Huffington Post has now clarified that they use the same AI just to determine how to post ads on certain content -- and that's what Isaf meant with his remarks.  Not that they moderate comments based on advertiser preferences.</i> 
<br /><br />
We've been somewhat excited that we're rapidly approaching one million total comments on Techdirt.  We thought it was quite a nice milestone. But we feel a bit small to learn that the Huffington Post <i>already</i> has over <i>70 million comments</i> just <i>this year</i> alone.  Over at Poynter, Jeff Sonderman has a fascinating interview with the site's director of community, Justin Isaf, about <a href="http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/top-stories/190492/how-the-huffington-post-handles-70-million-comments-a-year/" target="_blank">how they manage all those comments</a>.  Apparently they have a staff of 30 full time comment moderators, helped along by some artificial intelligence (named Julia) from a company they bought just for this technology.  
<br /><br />
Now, obviously, sites have lots of different philosophies on moderating comments.  Our own is pretty open.  We have a spam filter that tries to cut out obvious spam (of which we get about 1,000 per day, last I checked) and other than that comments are basically unmoderated.  We <i>do</i> have a system that allows <i>the community</i> to vote on funny and insightful comments (which we then round up in a weekly "best of" post).  We also, just recently, introduced our <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/01490520058/first-word-last-word-letting-our-biggest-fans-help-shape-conversation-our-comments.shtml">first word/last word</a> feature, which lets the community promote certain comments.  Finally the community can also "report" comments they find problematic, which then minimizes those comments, though they remain available for anyone to see with one click.  We've found that this system of trusting the community works pretty damn well overall.
<br /><br />
HuffPo, on the other hand, between the technology and the moderators, seems more focused on nudging the conversation themselves.  I can understand and respect that choice, but there was one detail that struck me as a bit questionable:
<blockquote><i>
I&#8217;m a big fan of having machines help us with the lower level tasks, freeing up time, resources and brain power for more interesting and complex tasks. Julia [the artificial intelligence system that HuffPo owns] takes that a few steps further and helps us with a lot of other aspects of HuffPost in addition to helping weed out abusive members, including identifying intelligent conversations for promotion, and <b>content that is a mismatch for our advertisers</b>. She has allowed us to do a lot more with a lot less.
</i></blockquote>
(Note: see <b>update</b> at the top).  I recognize that these are all advertising businesses, but I'm a bit surprised to see HuffPo so blatantly admit that they moderate comments if they're "a mismatch for our advertisers."  I've seen plenty of sites say they'll moderate inappropriate commentary, but leave reasonable commentary alone even if it's critical.  But HuffPo is basically saying that if advertisers aren't likely to like the comments, they may moderate them.  It's their system, and they can do what they want with that, but personally, that makes me feel uncomfortable.  We've always tried to promote the fact that our own community is very opinionated (and not shy about it) when we've spoken to advertisers, and we use that as a way of explaining why things they do should be authentic and real, rather than forced and phony.  And, because of that, we'd like to think that we're able to drive more interesting engagement.  If you leave open the possibility of moderating comments that advertisers won't like, that seems to only encourage bogus and annoying advertising, since marketers may never learn that people don't actually like that kind of thing.
<br /><br />
In the end, HuffPo's position is obviously self-serving, even as they pretend that it's best for advertisers.  What they may end up doing is hiding the fact that the advertisements are bad, rather than improving the quality of the advertising.  Now, obviously, I'm sure AOL does quite fine with HuffPo's ad selling (and they're a hell of a lot bigger than us), but it still struck me as interesting to see the company so blatantly admit how it reacts to content their advertisers might think is "a mismatch."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121022/12562620788/huffpost-moderates-comments-to-please-advertisers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121022/12562620788/huffpost-moderates-comments-to-please-advertisers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121022/12562620788/huffpost-moderates-comments-to-please-advertisers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:12:34 PDT</pubDate>
<title>First Word, Last Word And Letting Our Biggest Fans Help Shape The Conversation In Our Comments</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/01490520058/first-word-last-word-letting-our-biggest-fans-help-shape-conversation-our-comments.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ With the launch of our new <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/">Techdirt Insider Shop</a>, one of the new features we've enabled on the site is something we're calling <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/features/#fwlw-credits">First Word/Last Word</a>, which you may have noticed appearing on the blog. The feature allows Techdirt Insiders with credits to help highlight key comments as either "The First Word" (on top of all the other comments) or "The Last Word" (beneath all of the comments, even if other comments are added after).  You can designate one of your own comments, or feel free to designate a truly awesome comment from someone else.
<br /><br />
Because this is such a new feature, I wanted to discuss a little of the thinking behind it.  Despite blogging for well over a decade, I'm still amazed by how much controversy there is over blog comments.  Some people insist that they're completely useless.  Others spend many hours of their day engaging in discussion and debate in the comments.  There are various attempts to try to "improve the quality" of comments out there, including banning anonymous comments, heavily moderating comments or doing things like having editors highlight the best comments.  Others have integrated third-party platforms to manage comments, such as Facebook or Disqus.  Gawker keeps pushing the bleeding edge with a series of <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/06/pay-attention-to-what-nick-denton-is-doing-with-comments/" target="_blank">commenting experiments</a> that try to increase the importance of comments while decreasing the number of comments that actually get viewed.
<br /><br />
Over the years, we've taken a very open approach to comments.  We don't require a login to comment (though there are benefits to having one).  We don't require people to identify themselves at all.  And despite the default assumption some have that anonymous comments are bad, we quite regularly find that comments from anonymous users are some of our <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120811/01351419992/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml">most insightful and funniest comments</a>.  To that end, we've always focused on trying to do more to highlight and encourage good behavior -- such as highlighting the comments voted most insightful and funniest, both with badges on the comments and in our weekly summaries.
<br /><br />
With the First Word/Last Word feature, we're trying to take all of that a step further.  We've seen how a single trollish commenter can sometimes (not always) derail an interesting conversation by getting in early and saying something completely brain dead, then watching (probably with laughter) as the thread disintegrates.  Our expanded <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/features/#crystal-ball">Crystal Ball</a> may take care of that in some cases by giving insiders more early access to kick off the comments.  But, not everyone's going to be able to rush in and be first.  With "First Word/Last Word," Insiders with credits can help highlight one or two of the absolutely key comments on a story and put them in places of prominence to help define the overall conversation.
<br /><br />
This is very much an experiment (and like all experiments could flop completely).  But what fun is it if you never take chances?  We've trusted our community for many, many years, and here's another attempt to trust those who become Insiders to help curate the absolute best comments for everyone to see.  We hope you'll take part and help us develop an even more interesting and compelling comments section.
<br /><br />
<strong>You can get your own First Word/Last Word credits at the <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/">Techdirt Insider Shop</a>. Most purchases include at least one credit, and subscriptions like the <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/products/watercooler">Watercooler Package</a> and the <a href="http://rtb.techdirt.com/products/behind-the-curtain">Behind The Curtain Package</a> include a cache of credits that replenishes on a monthly basis.</strong><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/01490520058/first-word-last-word-letting-our-biggest-fans-help-shape-conversation-our-comments.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/01490520058/first-word-last-word-letting-our-biggest-fans-help-shape-conversation-our-comments.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/01490520058/first-word-last-word-letting-our-biggest-fans-help-shape-conversation-our-comments.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:53:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Former MPAA CTO Tells The White House Why SOPA Is The Wrong Approach For IP Enforcement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120807/11591019956/former-mpaa-cto-tells-white-house-why-sopa-is-wrong-approach-ip-enforcement.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall who Paul Brigner is.  He was formerly the Chief Technology Policy Officer for the MPAA, who at one point was tasked with standing up to pretty much every knowledgeable internet engineer in trying to defend why SOPA was both necessary and wouldn't be a technological disaster.  This resulted in some <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110705/02254014970/mpaa-forget-national-security-this-is-about-internet-security.shtml">wacky arguments</a>.  Back in January, he and I <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120210/02273417726/how-being-more-open-human-awesome-can-save-anyone-worried-about-making-money-entertainment.shtml">faced off</a> on a panel in Washington DC the day before the Internet blackout, in which he tried to defend the MPAA's position on SOPA, though almost everyone who watched the panel noted that his statements appeared half hearted.  It was little surprise two months later to see Brigner leave the MPAA to go work for <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120324/02152118235/mpaa-cto-jumps-ship-to-internet-society-opponent-greater-online-copyright-enforcement.shtml">the Internet Society</a>, who fought strongly <i>against</i> SOPA.  Since then, Brigner has more or less admitted that SOPA <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120409/13271918434/former-chief-tech-policy-officer-mpaa-admits-that-sopa-was-not-compatible-with-health-internet.shtml">was a bad idea</a>.
<br /><br />
So it's not too surprising, but still a bit ironic, to see that Brigner has <a href="http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=OMB-2012-0004-0074" target="_blank">written the Internet Society's response to the White House's request for comment</a> on IP Enforcement, and much of it explains why any approach that mirrors SOPA is completely unacceptable.  From all indications, this has been Brigner's true belief all along, and you can see it in the depth of explanation and knowledge he puts into this letter as compared to his half-hearted "defenses" of the MPAA when he was employed there.  What's striking, however, is how directly Brigner's comments today contradict the claims of the MPAA, which he was responsible for defending just a few months ago.  It's almost a step by step argument against the MPAA's position: Brigner/ISOC are against mucking with DNS, are in favor of highlighting the importance of due process and protecting civil liberties and in favor of much greater transparency in policy making.
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We are also of the opinion that any enforcement attempts &#8211; at both national and international
levels &#8211; should ensure and not jeopardize the stability, interoperability and efficiency of the
Internet, its technologies and underlying platforms. <b>The Internet &#8211; a network of networks &#8211; is
based on an open and distributed architecture. This model should be preserved and should
surpass any enforcement efforts.</b> For the Internet Society preserving the original nature of the
Internet is particularly significant, especially when enforcement is targeting domain names and
the Domain Name System (DNS) in general. <b>There are significant concerns from using the
DNS as a channel for intellectual property enforcement and various contributions have been
made on this issue by both the Internet Society and the technical community. It needs to be
highlighted that from a security perspective, in particular, DNS filtering is incompatible with an
important security technology called Domain Name Security Extensions or DNSSEC. In fact,
there is great potential for DNSSEC to be weakened by proposals that seek to filter domain
names</b>. This means that DNS filtering proposals could ultimately reduce global Internet
security, introduce new vulnerabilities, and put individual users at risk.
<br /><br />
Our second recommendation relates to the legal tools that should be in place in any
enforcement design. ISOC would like to stress the absolute need for any enforcement
provisions to be prescribed according to the rule of law and due process. We believe that
combating online infringement of intellectual property is a significant objective. However, it is
equally important that this objective is achieved through lawful and legal paths and in
accordance with the notion of constitutional proportionality. <b>In this regard, enforcement
provisions &#8211; both within and outside the context of intellectual property &#8211; should respect the
fundamental human rights and civil liberties of individuals and, subsequently, those of Internet
users. They should not seek to impose unbearable constitutional constraints and should not
prohibit users from exercising their constitutional rights of free speech, freedom of association
and freedom of expression.</b>
<br /><br />
As a general recommendation, we would like to emphasize our belief that all discussions
pertaining to the Internet, including those relating to intellectual property - both at a national and
international level - <b>should follow open and transparent processes.</b>
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It's a great filing overall, and I appreciate the Internet Society's longstanding support for these key principles.  Similarly, I think it's great that Brigner appears to have found employment much more in line with his own knowledge, experience and personal views -- but there is something ironic about seeing his name on a filing like this just months after he was tasked with arguing the opposite position.
<br /><br />
Speaking of the White House's <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120625/14275019470/white-house-wants-to-hear-you-concerning-its-strategy-intellectual-property-enforcement.shtml">request for comments</a>, that process is <a href="http://www.regulations.gov/#!submitComment;D=OMB-2012-0004-0002" target="_blank">still open until this Friday</a>.  Later this week, I'll be sharing what I am submitting as well, but I urge many others to post thoughtful comments of their own.  You can see <a href="http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;dct=N%252BO%252BSR%252BPS;rpp=250;po=0;D=OMB-2012-0004" target="_blank">what's already been submitted</a>, and unfortunately, it appears that many (on all sides of the issue) submitted short/ranty "internet comment" style comments.  I would urge that anyone seeking to submit a comment write out something a bit more thoughtful and detailed if you would like those in the White House to take them seriously.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120807/11591019956/former-mpaa-cto-tells-white-house-why-sopa-is-wrong-approach-ip-enforcement.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120807/11591019956/former-mpaa-cto-tells-white-house-why-sopa-is-wrong-approach-ip-enforcement.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120807/11591019956/former-mpaa-cto-tells-white-house-why-sopa-is-wrong-approach-ip-enforcement.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>UK Government Censors Copyright Consultation Submission About How Awful Collection Societies Are</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>When the UK Hargreaves Review of intellectual monopolies in the digital age came out last year, Techdirt <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110518/00355214310/uk-copyright-review-hardly-surprising-radical-will-face-opposition.shtml">noted</a> that one of its innovations was an emphasis on basing policy on evidence.  The fact that this was even notable shows how parlous the state of policy-making has become.  One important way to gather evidence is through public consultations, and in the wake of the Hargreaves Review, the UK government conducted <a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/pro-policy/consult/consult-closed/consult-closed-2011/consult-2011-copyright.htm">a major exercise in gathering views and information in this field</a>.  
</p><p>
The <a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-copyright-response.htm">responses to that consultation have now been published</a> -- all 471 of them.  That's a surprisingly high number for what was once an arcane area of interest only to a few lawyers, and a measure of just how  important the subject has become.  On that Web page there's the following slightly unusual statement:

<i><blockquote>in the course of reviewing the responses received, it became clear that a small number of respondents had advanced criticisms or inappropriately criticised the activities of others in the sector. The Government has now carefully reviewed the submissions to establish any potentially defamatory material and has redacted any inappropriate or defamatory comments.</blockquote></i>

One of the people whose submissions were redacted is Andrew Norton.  He's written <a href="http://www.ktetch.co.uk/2012/07/uk-ipo-redacts-responses-critical-of.html">a fascinating blog post detailing what exactly was taken out</a>.  The first and biggest redaction occurs in his answer to the following question:

<i><blockquote>What aspects of the current collective licensing system work well for users and rights holders and what are the areas for improvement? Please give reasons for your answers</blockquote></i>

Here's what the UK government published of Norton's response:

<i><blockquote>Almost no aspects work well for users or rights holders. The standard operating system for collecting societies is to demand all, demand often. There have been many cases in the recent past where agencies have gone above and beyond their mandate, and targeted people in shakedowns.<br /><br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
<br /><br />
In short, what aspects work well? None. What needs to be done? First of all, an audit needs doing, to ensure compliance with the law. Then, shut them down. At the very least start a new, independent one with significant oversight, because this one just DOES NOT WORK.</blockquote></i>

So what exactly did the UK government think was "inappropriate or defamatory"?  This, apparently:

<i><blockquote>&#8230; and targeted people in shakedowns.<br /><br />
In the past few years, there have been reports of UK Collection societies calling up small businesses, and threatening them if they hear music in the background (<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090202/0128383597.shtml">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090202/0128383597.shtml</a>), carollers, charities (<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/charity-forced-to-pay-copyright-police-so-kids-can-sing-071209/">http://torrentfreak.com/charity-forced-to-pay-copyright-police-so-kids-can-sing-071209/</a>) have been targeted for fees, as have schools (<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/uk-copyright-cops-target-kids-schools-community-centers-081015/">http://torrentfreak.com/uk-copyright-cops-target-kids-schools-community-centers-081015/</a>). Even people who sing to themselves have been targeted because they're doing so at work (<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/8317952.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/8317952.stm</a>) and let's not forget their targeting of employers like Kwik Fit (<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7029892.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7029892.stm</a>) and even the police (<a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7029892.stm>http://torrentfreak.com/police-chief-faces-high-court-anti-piracy-action-120608/</a>). Incidentally, The EU Court of Justice just ruled that in cases like these, there are no fees to pay (<a href="http://euobserver.com/871/115621#.T2cCyGfYteQ.twitter">http://euobserver.com/871/115621#.T2cCyGfYteQ.twitter)</a></blockquote></i>

That's just one of three such paragraphs, all linking to external sites.  As you may have noticed, the first link above is to Techdirt, and the others are to sites like the BBC, El Pais, Die Welt and TorrentFreak.  None of them is defamatory, since they are all reporting on established facts.  This means that the UK government must think that these facts are somehow "inappropriate".  That's a pretty extraordinary state of affairs.  The UK government has taken it upon itself to hide what UK collection societies get up to, in an absolutely key consultation, one of whose purposes is surely to get the facts about what's happening in this sector.
</p><p>
What makes this censorship of linked information even more striking is that alongside <a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-2011-copyright.pdf">the main consultation document</a> itself (pdf) the UK government also published guidance on providing "<a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-2011-copyright-evidence.pdf">open and transparent evidence</a>" (pdf), where we read:

<i><blockquote>When you draw on other work, a reference, and link to the original work should be included. References to other people&#8217;s work should have the relevant web link</blockquote></i>

That is, the guidelines specifically ask for precisely the kind of scrupulous linking to sources that Norton provided, and yet the UK government censored them all because it didn't like the unequivocally dire situation they delineated.
</p><p>
This does not augur well for the results of the consultation.  It suggests that the UK government is happy to gloss over one of the key failings of the present copyright system -- the UK collection societies -- and is seeking to present a very partial view of the real situation.  It also undermines confidence in the whole consultation process: if the UK government has arbitrarily redacted true information that it finds inconvenient once, what's to say it hasn't done so multiple times elsewhere?  If people aren't allowed to provide all the evidence what's the point of conducting a consultation in the first place?
</p><p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:58:40 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Patent Office Seeking Comments On How To Implement A 'First To File' Regime Instead Of 'First To Invent'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may remember that last fall, there was an incredibly weak attempt at <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110916/12123115983/patent-reform-official-along-with-more-bad-ideas.shtml">patent reform</a> known as the America Invents Act.  This was the result of a nearly seven-year-long fight over patent reform, with nearly every good idea from early proposals being watered down to completely useless, and a few bad ideas ramped up for good measure.  Nothing in the AIA actually dealt with the problems of patent trolls or patent thickets.  One of the ideas that survived the years-long culling was flipping the US patent system from a "first to invent" system to a "first to file" system.  I've long argued that this is a very bad idea for a variety of reasons.  First, it encourages inventors to file for lots of patents as early as possible to beat anyone else to the Patent Office, rather than making sure that the invention is actually worth patenting.  It also seems to go against the basic principle of the patent system, if it's supposed to reward actual inventors.  Finally, switching to a first to file certainly seems likely to favor large companies with big legal staffs that can focus on rushing out as many patent applications as possible.  Smaller entities might be in trouble.
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To be fair, the arguments in favor of this switch are basically (1) everyone else does it (mostly true) and (2) proving who was first to invent is a total pain in the ass and can be slow and costly.  Thus switching to a first to file system could save a lot of wasted time and money in the cases where there's a dispute.  That may be true, but I'm not convinced it's a <i>good</i> reason.
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That said, it doesn't much matter what I think: it made it into the bill and is now the law.  The US Patent Office is now seeking comment on how it should go about implementing this new rule.  It's put out two requests.  First, it wants to know how it should <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-07-26/pdf/2012-17898.pdf" target="_blank">change the examination guidelines for patent examiners</a> (pdf and embedded below) to take this new rule into account.   Second, it wants comments on how it should <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-07-26/pdf/2012-18121.pdf" target="_blank">amend the "rules of practice,"</a> regarding this change -- since the current rules are based on the old "first to invent" system.
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For those thinking of participating, this is not the place to argue why "first to file" is a bad system (or even why the patent system is broken).   I imagine any such filings will be (correctly) deemed off-topic and discarded.  However for those patent holders and patent lawyers (and scholars) for whom this change is a big deal, now might be the time to share some thoughts with the USPTO for how it can implement this change with as little damage as possible.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120731/01341819888/patent-office-seeking-comments-how-to-implement-first-to-file-regime-instead-first-to-invent.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120731/01341819888/patent-office-seeking-comments-how-to-implement-first-to-file-regime-instead-first-to-invent.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120731/01341819888/patent-office-seeking-comments-how-to-implement-first-to-file-regime-instead-first-to-invent.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:06:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>YouTube Wants You To Comment Under Your Real Name</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve written before about the benefits of having an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110721/11292415198/if-your-comment-section-is-awesome-its-your-communitys-fault.shtml">open commenting system </a>on websites, complete with anonymity, and I still believe in that stance. I&#39;ve also made the point that the comments and communities a site develops can often be as much the stars of the show as the original content. So, it goes without saying that the more you enable your community to provide awesome and relevant commentary, while not locking the system down, the better off you&#39;re going to be. I think Techdirt does this well, by still allowing for anonyous comments while providing benefits for having a profile with a comment history (participation in contests, credibility through history, etc.).<br />
<br />
YouTube (famous for its often-awful comments) has never been completely open, but the majority of commenters use standalone accounts with pseudonyms. Now, according to a recent CNN article, YouTube is actively encouraging users to link their accounts with their real identities (via Google+, of course), <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/24/tech/social-media/youtube-real-name-techland/index.html">not just by prompting them to do so but also by asking them to explain why if they decline</a>.
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<i>"Try to comment on a video today and a window will pop up with the title "Start using your full name on YouTube," which will sign you in with your Google+ account. A YouTube spokesperson <a href="http://betabeat.com/2012/07/start-using-your-full-name-begs-desperate-youtube-message/" target="_blank"><font color="#004276">told BetaBeat</font></a> that this option has been offered since June 29 and that users with a Google+ account will see the same thing if they try to upload a video.</i>
<p class="cnn_storypgraphtxt cnn_storypgraph6">
<i>If you don&#39;t want to use your Google+ account, you can refuse -- but then you&#39;re taken to a second prompt, which asks "Are you sure?" Then, like some kind of Internet degenerate, you must explain why you don&#39;t want to use your full name."</i>
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Now, this may be a tad irritating to anyone who insists on commenting anonymously, but I think if the strategy works to get more people to comment while being accountable then the benefits will outweigh the annoyance. Because if there has been any single great all-encompassing truth about the last decade, it&#39;s this: if you&#39;re looking for a reason to hate humanity, spend 20 minutes browsing YouTube comments.</p>
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Having said that, it&#39;s important that YouTube still allow the option to comment anonymously. Without that option, you may lose valuable comments from people with legitimate fear of reprisal if their name is associated with their words, whether that reprisal comes from friends, family, their employers, or the government. But being proactive in encouraging users to comment under their accounts is a good thing, which may very well breed a better commenting community.
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:27:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Amazon Deletes Ebooks Automatically Generated From YouTube Comments Leaving Many Questions Unanswered</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ MIT's Tech Review had a fascinating article yesterday about a couple of "artist-coders" who had automated a system <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428175/ebooks-made-of-youtube-comments-invade-amazon/" target="_blank">to turn YouTube comments into ebooks for sale on Amazon</a> with somewhat (unintentionally) brilliant results, such as "Alot was been hard" by Janetlw Bauie:
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The team who created this has put out an <a href="http://traumawien.at/ghostwriters/" target="_blank">entertaining press release</a> as well.  In it, they point out how they're demonstrating some big questions about publishing in the digital age:
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The GHOST WRITERS project's aim is to address and identify pertinent questions concerning the digital publishing industry's business models, as well as to draw the lines of new trends for a possible new kind of digital literature, after the web.
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The project wants to raise questions like: who do YouTube videos/comments belong to? Where does authorship start and end? To what extent does the e-book format have to be reconsidered with regard to the traditional book form, and what are its most innovative opportunities? How could we act and work on it?
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Indeed.  When I first read the TechReview about this, my first thought was about how long it would be until they were sued for copyright infringement.  Still, I was intrigued by this so I went to check out some of "Janetlw Bauie's" works... only to discover they're all gone.  No one seemed to mention this anywhere, but the creators just noted that Amazon pulled them because "they could lead to a poor customer experience."  Not sure that's really true, but...   Either way, it seems unfortunate to have them just "disappear" (poof!) like that.  Were these books really so problematic that they had to be deleted entirely?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120613/03584719300/amazon-deletes-ebooks-automatically-generated-youtube-comments-leaving-many-questions-unanswered.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120613/03584719300/amazon-deletes-ebooks-automatically-generated-youtube-comments-leaving-many-questions-unanswered.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120613/03584719300/amazon-deletes-ebooks-automatically-generated-youtube-comments-leaving-many-questions-unanswered.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:04:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Norwegian Security Service Wants Details Of Citizens' Web Comments Retained For Six Months</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Governments around the world are seeking to monitor more and more of their citizens' online activities -- and it's not just the most obviously repressive regimes doing this.  In the US, there is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120424/21092718639/now-is-time-to-improve-cispa-before-fridays-vote-pushing-these-critical-amendments.shtml
">CISPA</a>, while the UK is drawing up the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/03513918404/just-because-its-now-cheaper-easier-to-spy-everyone-all-time-doesnt-mean-governments-should-do-it.shtml">Communications Capability Development Programme</a>.  Thomas Steen alerts us to a further escalation of this desire to spy on the public, in Norway.  The secret service there (known by the acronym PST) want details about comments posted on all Web sites retained (via <a href="http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=no&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=no&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2FPST-vil-legge-nettdebatter-under-Datalagringsdirektivet-6809325.html">Google Translate</a>):

<i><blockquote>"This will make it possible to identify which IP address to publish a given post at a particular time," writes PST letter also signed the acting chief Roger Berg.</blockquote></i>

The current requirement is to store information detailing where, when, how and with whom Norwegians communicate using the phone, mobile or e-mail.  The latest proposal would be a major extension to that, since it would require data about highly personal content to be stored.  Here's how the PST would access that information:

<i><blockquote>If it becomes subject to compulsory saving for six months, it will mean that the district court, upon request from the PST, may require that those who have online discussion must submit the information about who wrote a given post and when it was done. <br /><br />
In addition, prosecutors called a "rush of competence" in cases where data is needed very quickly. Then the police and PST require data directly from the supplier, but as the court approve it afterwards.</blockquote></i>

Aside from that retrospective approval for data grabs, the other worrying aspect of this proposal from the Norwegian secret service is that, if implemented, it would establish a precedent that other countries may seek to follow.
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Follow me @glynmoody on <a href="http://twitter.com/glynmoody">Twitter</a> or <a href="http://identi.ca/glynmoody">identi.ca</a>, and on <a href="https://plus.google.com/100647702320088380533">Google+</a></p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/11153618656/norwegian-security-service-wants-details-citizens-web-comments-retained-six-months.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/11153618656/norwegian-security-service-wants-details-citizens-web-comments-retained-six-months.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/11153618656/norwegian-security-service-wants-details-citizens-web-comments-retained-six-months.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Difference Between Nuanced Discussion And The Evil Underbelly Of The Internet Is Apparently A Fine Line Indeed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently posted what I thought was an interesting essay by musician Erin McKeown on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120405/11221818390/perspective-complexities-copyright-creativity-victim-infringement.shtml" target="_blank">her reaction to seeing someone copy a song of hers</a>, and have that other song become a "hit."  We thought it was an interesting and nuanced exploration of some of the challenges of being a musician and thinking about copyright -- from both an emotional and logical perspective -- and thought it would make for an interesting discussion.  And, in fact, it did make for an interesting discussion.  With well over 100 comments, representing a variety of different viewpoints, there was a pretty deep dive into the myriad responses the piece brought out.  Like pretty much <i>any</i> online discussion, some of the comments were more polite than others.  But, when viewed on the whole, it struck me that the conversation was much more polite than most online discussions around copyright.  In fact, what was interesting was that because the discussion was quite nuanced, most of our usual haters didn't take part.  So we didn't have, for example, anyone calling me a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/04031218178/google-defends-dmcas-safe-harbors-against-mpaas-attempts-to-reinterpret-them-hotfile-case.shtml#c799">slimy lying sociopath</a> or a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120410/14194118444/why-do-copyright-industry-profits-get-to-be-yardstick-civil-liberties.shtml#c1287">disgusting human being</a>.
<br /><br />
Some of the comments were <i>pointed</i> in their disagreement with Erin, but almost immediately others came in to defend her, and the overall discussion was quite interesting in my mind.  And, yet, a bevy of the standard Techdirt critics took to Twitter to claim that Erin's article was proof positive that Techdirt was pure evil, hated artists and was the disgusting underbelly of the internet (a very close paraphrase of actual statements).  I'm not going to link to any of these, because I don't mean to call out those people specifically.  Similarly, there was a thread on a music site that was entitled "why does Techdirt hate musicians?"  I suddenly had people tweeting at me, personally, about how I was somehow destroying music and why did I not want artists to get paid.
<br /><br />
I honestly can't figure out why this was the response.  First of all, we've regularly been attacked because (we're told) we never, ever post an article where we show sympathy for artists' difficult plight these days.  So here was an article, from a musician, explaining her plight -- and we get attacked <i>for that</i>?!?  Furthermore, I'm long since past the time when I could read all the comments on the site, but I do read a pretty large number of them, and the amount of hate and vitriol that has come from Techdirt haters (see above, for two very recent examples) is way, way, way, way beyond anything seen in that particular thread.
<br /><br />
In fact, the further you read into the comments the more you realize it's a detailed and nuanced discussion on many important issues.  People don't agree, but no one's calling each other a slimy lying sociopath or a disgusting human being.  Yet, because a few commenters (not even the majority, as far as I can tell) disagree with Erin, all of Techdirt hates musicians?  There were a few tweets and statements elsewhere saying that Techdirt hates it when artists make money.  Of course, that's ridiculous.  We regularly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120411/11583818455/odd-future-approach-give-away-music-sell-awesome-stuff.shtml">celebrate</a> artists <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120320/02240018165/case-study-how-indie-rock-composer-musician-makes-money.shtml">earning money</a> -- sometimes <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20111222/12435717172/louis-ck-over-1-million-sales-just-12-days-drm-free-download.shtml">lots of money</a>.  What we get nervous amount is when artists start making use of laws in ways that may actually do them more harm than good in the long term, by attacking their fans as if they were criminals, or when they seek to abuse laws that take away fundamental rights of others.
<br /><br />
But, really, what was most amazing to me was how quick some of these people were to jump on the entire Techdirt community, because a few comments disagreed with one musician's opinion.  They ignored everyone who came to her defense.  They ignored the fact that we posted the story in the first place.  They ignored all the people on other stories who attack Techdirt supporters in often extremely personal ways (I've been threatened with physical harm as well as seen multiple comments I won't repeat about my family).   But most people -- myself included -- see those kinds of comments as part of the price you pay for having an open discussion.  Some people are going to disagree and some will use different levels of speech, some more polite than others.  To tar and feather everyone on the site because someone on it disagrees with your personal views is to suggest that every community online is a problem.
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Is it that difficult to distinguish a nuanced conversations where not everyone agrees with each other... from the "dark underbelly" of the internet?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120415/02354118491/difference-between-nuanced-discussion-evil-underbelly-internet-is-apparently-fine-line-indeed.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120415/02354118491/difference-between-nuanced-discussion-evil-underbelly-internet-is-apparently-fine-line-indeed.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120415/02354118491/difference-between-nuanced-discussion-evil-underbelly-internet-is-apparently-fine-line-indeed.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Should Online Newspaper's Comments Be Protected By Journalism Shield Laws?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Having just discussed whether or not journalism shield laws <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111207/17495617002/should-shield-laws-protect-journalists-journalism.shtml">should apply</a> to random bloggers, it's worth noting an interesting case going on in Indiana, where the key question is whether or not such a law <a href="http://www.theindianalawyer.com/coa-to-consider-journalistic-shield-protections-for-anonymous-online-comments/PARAMS/article/27708" target="_blank">applies to comments on a newspaper website</a>.  The paper, the Indianapolis Star, is arguing that Indiana's shield law protects anonymous commenters in the same way that it protects sources.  After all, anonymous commenters can be sources.  Of course, it may come down to the specific language in Indiana's shield law.  A more interesting question is <i>should</i> such laws protect anonymous commenters?  I'd argue that the First Amendment should, generally speaking, protect most anonymity, so I'm not sure a specific shield law provides much more that's useful beyond that.  However, if you were definitely applying such shield laws to comments, perhaps it should just be limited to cases or individuals who actually are acting as sources (i.e., providing news) in the comments.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/04045017044/should-online-newspapers-comments-be-protected-journalism-shield-laws.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/04045017044/should-online-newspapers-comments-be-protected-journalism-shield-laws.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/04045017044/should-online-newspapers-comments-be-protected-journalism-shield-laws.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:39:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Anonymous Commenters: Cowards Or Contributors?</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've had a few discussions here at Techdirt about anonymous commenters, coming down firmly on the side of the anonymous. Tim Geigner's response to Anil Dash's "<a href="http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assholes-its-your-fault.html" target="_blank">If Your Website's Full of Assholes, It's Your Fault</a>" turned the tables on the tired trope that anonymity breeds assholishness by stating that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110721/11292415198/if-your-comment-section-is-awesome-its-your-communitys-fault.shtml" target="_blank">if your comment thread is awesome, it's your commenters' "fault."</a> Many other pieces have been written by Mike Masnick, taking on various <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100104/1717357605.shtml" target="_blank">articles</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/16014916101/trolls-dont-need-to-be-anonymous-not-all-anonymous-people-are-trolls.shtml" target="_blank">editorials</a> that claim that anonymity is ruining civil discourse, destroying the internet and (presumably) humanity as we know it in the process. Even in my post <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110625/19243714865/trolls-town-drunks-internet.shtml" target="_blank">comparing trolls to town drunks</a>, I took care to point out that not every anonymous commenter is a loudmouthed troll.<br /><br /> Via Above the Law's <a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2011/11/non-sequiturs-11-02-11/" target="_blank">daily Non Sequiturs roundup</a> comes a post at What About Paris? (a client-focused legal blog) reiterating site owner JD Hull's arguments against allowing anonymous commenters, <a href="http://www.whataboutclients.com/archives/2011/11/this_blog_a_no.html" target="_blank">namely that most commenters haven't earned the protection that anonymity affords them</a>, using a photo of some French Resistance members to illustrate his point:<br /><blockquote><i>The revered French Resistance in action 70 years ago. Today, certainly, these heroes might need to comment and blog anonymously. However, lawyers, shoe store managers, Tulane grad students, accountants, and other country club Charlies haven't earned that privilege.</i> <br /></blockquote>Hull goes further, equating anonymous commenting with less-than-desirable human traits including (as Techdirt's default anoymous option nods at) cowardice:<br /><blockquote><i>Absent compelling reasons, nameless blogosphere participants, in our view, are rarely worth anyone's time, thought, or respect--even when they think and say brilliant things... They are second-class citizens. They say third-rate things. Certainly, they have no incentive to exceed below-average...<br /><br /> It doesn't take much thought or courage to lob one in there when you don't sign your name. Our new digital culture permits a certain accepted wimpiness to masquerade as needed "privacy" and personal "style". But it's a ruse. Most of us can do better than that. Don't buy into nameless blogging and commenting (or participation through pseudonyms) unless it's deserved. <br /></i></blockquote> While the wording is harsh, some basic truths underlie Hull's arguments. Anonymity means never being able to take credit for brilliance or be assigned guilt for any written atrocities. As you can clearly see in the weekly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?q=insightful&amp;eid=&amp;tid=&amp;aid=&amp;searchin=stories" target="_blank">funny/insightful</a> comment wrapups, AC's gather a ton of votes in both categories, demonstrating that not every anonymous commenter is using anonymity as a cloaking device for misanthropic behavior. As much as we would love to know who's behind these comments, stripping away the "anonymous coward" option would most likely result in a severe dropoff of overall comment quality.<br /><br /> On the other hand, anonymity is very often used as a layer of protection for those whose comments are the very reason that so many websites have turned to less anonymous options, like Facebook comments or required registration. Without the cover of anonymity, would anyone log in to post something like this recent <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110917/02034515994/first-recorded-evidence-prank-phone-call-1884-phone-calls-summoning-undertakers.shtml#c143" target="_blank">irredeemable piece of malevolence?</a> <br /><br /> Using the AC option to make statements like this is exactly what Hull is referring to when he uses the word "cowardice." The anonymity afforded to commenters by Masnick's refusal to censor the comment threads in any way (by requiring registration or using a third-party comment system) allows them to operate without fear of reprisal. Making crass statements or baseless personal attacks doesn't require courage or even forethought. All it requires is a keyboard and the will to sink to the lowest level possible.<br /><br /> Back to Hull: <blockquote><i>As<a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/l#a2049"> Walter Lippmann</a> once reminded us, "cowardice" is a strong word, and you don't throw it around. We dislike using it. It implies a certain moral superiority of the user (which the writers of this blog would never claim, and do not wish to achieve). It generally furthers no discussions, and justifiably puts people on the defensive. But that word, unfortunately, may fit here. <br /></i></blockquote>Hull references Above the Law, which is now looking to rid itself of anonymous commenters:<br /><blockquote><i>Check out the anonymous haters, nameless "experts" and scores of prissy pundits and lemmings who won't sign their real name to their rants and indictments. (We don't know how much David Lat is paying editor Elie Mystal these days, but it's not enough. Mystal is a mensch, soldier, hero and lightning rod who is often himself targeted for abuse.) <br /></i></blockquote>When people speak out against anonymous commenting, it's because of instances like these. And it's never a few outliers that cause the problem. It's wave after wave of anonymous commenters, all playing internet heckler, usually with nothing more interesting to contribute than <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111014/12032916366/beargriz72s-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c45" target="_blank">random insults</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111010/04381116281/bmi-hurting-artists-yet-again.shtml#c364" target="_blank">f-bombs</a> in the general direction of the writer and other readers.<br /><br /> It hurts the chances of other anonymous commenters to be taken seriously, <i>especially </i>when these non-trolling commenters offer up dissenting opinions. The tragedy is that the ACs who traffic in ad hominem attacks and drive-by insults could care less if they damage the collective reputation of anonymous commenters. <br /><br /> The good news is that Techdirt's comment threads are routinely full of awesome commenters, many of whom have taken it upon themselves to preemptively "troll" many of the posts, taking the words right out the mouths of would-be attackers. Hilariously, these ACs are taking offense at being "pre-trolled," going so far as to suggest that Mike himself is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20111012/00475716315/10000-up-grabs-most-interesting-content-creator-case-studies.shtml#c281" target="_blank">deploying an army of commenters</a> to discredit the "real" ACs by (presumably) stating their own "arguments" before they've had a chance to.<br /><br />(Pro tip: don't want to be confused for a "fake" AC? Pick a name and stick with it. Value your anonymity? Well, either everyone gets an equal chance to be anonymous or no one does. Which do you prefer?)<br /><br /> While I can certainly appreciate the frustration of Hull and Mystal, trying to do away with anonymous commenting usually results in losing a lot of the good along with the bad, and the determined trolls will always be able to find a way to use your new comment system against you.<br /><br /> Anonymity on the web is still very much a good thing, especially considering how many entities, from Facebook to Google to various governments, are looking to take it away. I'd still rather wade through a ton of personal attacks than require registration for something as universal as expressing an opinion.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111103/06223116619/anonymous-commenters-cowards-contributors.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111103/06223116619/anonymous-commenters-cowards-contributors.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111103/06223116619/anonymous-commenters-cowards-contributors.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Could Reddit Make Its Own 'Rome, Sweet Rome' And Compete With Warner Bros.?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about the initially cool, but eventually frustrating, story of author James Erwin, who turned a comment he made on a Reddit story <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111017/02544416380/warner-bros-buys-story-that-was-written-reddit-comments-then-tells-author-to-stop-redditing.shtml">into a movie deal</a> with Warner Bros.  The frustrating part came out of the news that Erwin mentioned in an interview that due to the "locked-down IP rights" common in the movie industry, he couldn't spend more time on Reddit with the community that built up around the "Rome, Sweet Rome" story.  
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Now, some in our comments questioned whether Erwin even had the right to grant such an exclusive license to Warner Bros., noting both that the community helped develop part of the story and that Reddit's terms might forbid it.  Eriq Gardner, at THREsq, decided to <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/does-warner-bros-have-movie-250726?utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">dig into the legal question</a>, and suggests that it's entirely possible that Warner Bros. <i>could not have</i> exclusively licensed the story, and in theory anyone else could try to get the same rights from Reddit itself.
<br /><br />
Part of it is the boilerplate language in Reddit's terms:
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"you agree that by posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, or engaging in any other form of communication with or through the Website, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, translate, enhance, transmit, distribute, publicly perform, display, or sublicense any such communication in any medium (now in existence or hereinafter developed) and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so."
</i></blockquote>
This really is boilerplate.  Look at almost any modern user-generated content platform and you'll see similar terms.  But, at the very least here, it suggests that while Erwin could offer up some rights to WB, he <b>cannot</b> grant them exclusively.  In fact, Reddit itself could make the same movie based on this... or it could separately license the story to a competing studio.  It seems unlikely that they would do that, but it certainly seems possible.
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Additionally, there are still some questions about whether or not Erwin could have licensed parts of the story that were developed by others:
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although Erwin undoubtedly did much of the hard work in crafting the story himself, during the genesis of "Rome, Sweet Rome," some of Reddit's other users made suggestions to his work that may ultimately shape the final story.
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Those concepts, if they are copyrightable, might not be Erwin's to exclusively license.
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Either way, while I doubt it will happen, it certainly would be interesting and amusing to see what would happen if Reddit tried to license the same rights to a competing studio.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111020/03450616429/could-reddit-make-its-own-rome-sweet-rome-compete-with-warner-bros.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111020/03450616429/could-reddit-make-its-own-rome-sweet-rome-compete-with-warner-bros.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111020/03450616429/could-reddit-make-its-own-rome-sweet-rome-compete-with-warner-bros.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:02:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Warner Bros. Buys Story That Was Written In The Reddit Comments; Then Tells Author To Stop Redditing</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Here's a story that starts out great... but then gets annoying towards the end.
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I know we've got many Redditors here, but for those who don't spend time there, they might find this story interesting.  We keep hearing stories these days about how the big movie studios are afraid to try anything particularly original when it comes to greenlighting movies -- preferring these days to do remakes, adaptations or sequels, knowing that they all bring in a guaranteed audience of some kind.  So it's interesting to see (as sent in by Aaron DeOliveira) that Warner Bros. "aggressively" went after and <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5849799/a-real-studio-movie-is-being-made-from-a-reddit-comment" target="_blank">bought the rights to a story that was written in the comments of Reddit</a>.  It started when a Reddit user asked if a modern US Marine infantry battalion <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/k067x/could_i_destroy_the_entire_roman_empire_during/" target="_blank">could wipe out the entire Roman Empire</a> given the modern technology they would have.
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Reddit user <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/Prufrock451" target="_blank">Prufrock451</a>, who is more commonly known as James Erwin (and is apparently an author and a "two-time Jeopardy winner") jumped at the opportunity to <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/k067x/could_i_destroy_the_entire_roman_empire_during/c2giwm4" target="_blank">dash off a bit of fiction</a> describing "day 1" of such a modern military unit being transported to the Roman Empire.  And the Redditors liked it.  Big time.  They encouraged, nay demanded, that he write more.  So he wrote some more, and an entire Subreddit was created, called <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/RomeSweetRome/" target="_blank">Rome Sweet Rome</a>, with plenty of people contributing additional ideas, including graphics and a hypothetical movie poster.
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And late last week, the news came out that Warner Bros. had purchased the movie rights.  Of course, there's a <i>long way</i> from buying the rights to actually having a movie made.  I know folks who have sold movie rights only to see them languish for ages with nothing ever happening.  Still, whole thing from comment to movie deal?  A little over a month.  When I read all that, I thought about how cool a move this was, and how it was nice to see Warner Bros. apparently being progressive on such a deal and realizing the value not just of the story but the wider Reddit community.
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But then I read a little more.  In an interview with Erwin on ScreenRant, Erwin admits that now that a deal has been signed <a href="http://screenrant.com/rome-sweet-rome-movie-james-erwin-interview-robf-136206/" target="_blank">he has to stop participating in the subreddit</a> because everyone's "lawyered-up" and worried about "locked-down IP rights."
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Unfortunately, I have not been able to spend time on Reddit. This is not because I think I&rsquo;m too big for my britches now. The Internet is a chaotic, give-and-take place &ndash; and that creates nightmares for a lawyered-up industry based on locked-down IP rights. In a perfect world, I would be in that subreddit every day &ndash; but that&rsquo;s not what&rsquo;s best for the project. I want this to succeed, and that unfortunately meant going dark for a while. I hope the folks in the RomeSweetRome subreddit see this little mash note. I miss em.
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Ah, what a shame.  What could have been a fun, collaborative process that really involved and built on the community -- <i>who would have loved it</i> -- instead becomes a lame "lawyered-up" situation with "locked-down IP rights."  Sorry, WB, but you missed the whole point.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111017/02544416380/warner-bros-buys-story-that-was-written-reddit-comments-then-tells-author-to-stop-redditing.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111017/02544416380/warner-bros-buys-story-that-was-written-reddit-comments-then-tells-author-to-stop-redditing.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111017/02544416380/warner-bros-buys-story-that-was-written-reddit-comments-then-tells-author-to-stop-redditing.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>US Marshals Service Asks Us To Remove A Comment</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, we had a post about a ruling from Judge Beryl Howell, concerning <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110911/01214815893/former-riaa-lobbyist-now-judge-says-lowest-possible-statutory-damages-single-case-infringement-is-3430.shtml">awards on default judgments</a>.  Judge Howell has been a controversial figure in copyright circles over the last few months, because prior to becoming a judge, she was an RIAA lobbyist, and prior to that, she <a href="http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=e655f9e2809e5476862f735da16114a4&#038;wit_id=e655f9e2809e5476862f735da16114a4-0-0" target="_blank">helped write the DMCA</a> and a variety of other really bad copyright laws.  Not surprisingly, her rulings on copyright issues have gone strongly in favor of the copyright holder -- even going against the rulings of many other judges.  At the very least, it's difficult to see her as an unbiased member of the judiciary on copyright issues.  A general sense of fairness would suggest that, given her role in the laws she's now asked to rule on, she should recuse herself from copyright cases.  I don't believe that Judge Howell is corrupt.  In fact, I find charges of corruption towards judges thrown around way too frequently.  But I do think she has an obvious and clearly stated bias on copyright issues, and thus is not an impartial judge in such cases.
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Given the controversy and the nature of the open forum we provide, some folks took to the comments to criticize Judge Howell -- and some took it to ridiculous lengths, by making suggestions about Judge Howell that were way beyond inappropriate.  This happens sometimes in comments sections on the internet.  People often make extreme and ridiculous comments out of frustration.  We see it all the time, and whether we agree with the comment or not (and usually, we don't), most people chalk it up to what it is: someone venting frustration by making an extreme comment.  No one takes such comments seriously.
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Well, there are always some exceptions, of course.  And in this case, someone did apparently take one of those ridiculous comments seriously.  The one that said:
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Is it time to start murdering the corrupt yet?
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This is, undoubtedly, a stupid comment.  Because the answer is obvious to pretty much anyone: NO.  It is not appropriate to murder the corrupt, no matter how corrupt they might be.  There are all sorts of ways to attack corruption, but murder is not a way that should ever be on the list, let alone anywhere near the list of possibilities.  Of course, as is the nature of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110721/11292415198/if-your-comment-section-is-awesome-its-your-communitys-fault.shtml">online communities</a>, even people who disagree with Judge Howell seemed to think this comment was a bit over the top -- even though it doesn't advocate anything specifically (it just asks a question) and doesn't name anyone in particular. 
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Again, most people would see such a comment, recognize that it was someone venting frustration, just as others have vented frustration in the past in inappropriate and extreme ways, that never lead to any action.
<br /><br />
 However, a few days later, the US Marshals Service contacted us, saying they were investigating this particular comment, and asked us to remove it.  I actually thought this was odd, because the method for removing such a comment would be to delete it, which would delete with it any information associated with that comment -- and nowhere in the request was there any mention of us being told to retain the data.  However, our general viewpoint is that we don't remove comments, even offensive ones, other than comments that we deem to be spam.  We certainly deem this comment to be offensive, stupid and counterproductive, but we saw no reason to remove it.  Indeed, it spurred a long thread of discussion.
<br /><br />
It's likely that someone else in the comment thread (and it's not difficult to guess who from the thread itself) reported the comment to the Marshals Service, believing that it's a fun thing to do to cause trouble for us.  The truth is, this individual is almost certainly wasting the valuable and important time of the Marshals Service, who have significant and important work to do, but instead are "investigating" a stupid comment written in frustration on a blog.
<br /><br />
We are not removing the comment, and we've explained this to the US Marshals Service, who noted they understood our reasons.  The Marshals Service indicated that its first course of action in such situations is to seek the removal of such content -- which strikes us as a little odd.  In this case in particular, the comment did not advocate anything.  It certainly didn't mention or name a judge.  It did not even suggest doing anything.  It asked a question.  A stupid question -- we agree -- but still, it was just asking a question.  The US Marshals Service has every right to investigate threats and to do what it needs to do.  Certainly judges have been targeted by crazy people at times, and I appreciate the work that the Marshals Service does in protecting judges.  But I am still troubled that the US Marshals Service would contact sites in such a manner, certainly implying that the US government and the Justice Department might somehow take action if you did not remove the comments.  In this case, the Marshals Service has assured us that no action will be taken against us for leaving the comment up, and they even recognized (and apparently expected) that we would write about this whole thing.
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But, for everyone in our comments: let's try to keep a little perspective.  One idiot making a stupid comment does not amount to a credible threat.  We keep our comments open so we can enjoy the benefits of a wide range of opinions, insights and experiences.  And while sometimes the comments descend into petty name calling, much of the time, they're <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110721/11292415198/if-your-comment-section-is-awesome-its-your-communitys-fault.shtml">awesome</a>.  Making idiotic comments about murder is completely counterproductive, as is reporting such obviously non-specific comments to the US government.  Let's keep a little perspective here and focus on debating the issues.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110919/01530216000/us-marshals-service-asks-us-to-remove-comment.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110919/01530216000/us-marshals-service-asks-us-to-remove-comment.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110919/01530216000/us-marshals-service-asks-us-to-remove-comment.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Doctor Plans To Appeal Ruling That Said Complaining About His Bedside Manner Was Not Defamation</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about a court ruling against a doctor who tried to sue someone who wrote some bad reviews about the doctor's bedside manner online.  Thankfully, the court ruled that those reviews <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110507/00044314194/court-says-complaining-about-doctors-bedside-manner-is-not-defamation.shtml">were not defamatory</a>.  The court noted that the guy posting the material was clearly not happy with Dr. David McKee, but that:
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"In modern society, there needs to be some give and take, some ability for parties to air their differences.... Today, those disagreements may take place on various Internet sources. Because the medium has changed, however, does not make statements of this sort any more or less defamatory."
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Now, a smart doctor might take that lesson and move forward, and perhaps look into ways to respond reasonably to complaints.  Or, there's Dr. David McKee, who has announced that <a href="http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/202704/" target="_blank">he has "no choice" but to appeal the ruling</a>.  That's actually wrong.  He has plenty of choices.  For example, he could <b>not</b> appeal the ruling.
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Amusingly, part of the reason that Dr. McKee is apparently filing the appeal is because he claims that the same guy started writing a bunch more critical messages about him online after the ruling came out.  However, the guy, Dennis Laurion, insists that he hasn't posted anything since the lawsuit began, and suggests that perhaps all of those anti-McKee posts came about because of the negative publicity associated with the lawsuit.  Specifically, he notes that "there was an influx of Internet chatter about McKee after a link to a story about McKee appeared on the high-traffic website reddit.com."  So what next?  Will Dr. McKee try to sue a bunch of Reddit posters too?  I'm sure that will go over well...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110629/03411314906/doctor-plans-to-appeal-ruling-that-said-complaining-about-his-bedside-manner-was-not-defamation.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110629/03411314906/doctor-plans-to-appeal-ruling-that-said-complaining-about-his-bedside-manner-was-not-defamation.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110629/03411314906/doctor-plans-to-appeal-ruling-that-said-complaining-about-his-bedside-manner-was-not-defamation.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Facebook Comment Leads To Arrest In Zimbabwe</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/04/2217226/Zimbabwe-Makes-Facebook-Arrest?from=twitter" target="_blank">Slashdot</a> points us to a report out of Zimbabwe, claiming that a guy has <a href="http://www.swradioafrica.com/news040311/byoman040311.htm" target="_blank">been arrested for a Facebook comment</a>.  Apparently he commented on the Facebook page that supposedly belongs to the country's Prime Minister, Morgan Tsvangirai, where he said:
<blockquote><i>
"I am overwhelmed, I don't want to say Mr. or PM what happened in Egypt is sending shockwaves to dictators around the world. No weapon but unity of purpose worth emulating, hey."
</i></blockquote>
The guy was actually arrested before the police realized what he had written.  An anonymous tipster claimed that the guy had sent a "security threat" via his phone, so he was arrested.  Police then searched his phone and found that message.  He's now been charged with "advocating or attempting to take-over government by unconstitutional means," and prosecutors have asked for him to be denied bail.  Seems like an extreme response to a simple Facebook comment.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110307/03572813381/facebook-comment-leads-to-arrest-zimbabwe.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110307/03572813381/facebook-comment-leads-to-arrest-zimbabwe.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110307/03572813381/facebook-comment-leads-to-arrest-zimbabwe.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Most Insightful, Funniest Comments Of The Week On Techdirt</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In past weeks, we've usually had a few comments that charted high in both categories, but no such luck this week.  There was not a <i>single</i> crossover comment in the top ten of either category.  This week's winner in the most insightful came from Marcus Carab (once again -- which might make him the first two-time winner in this category...), responding to someone on Friday's post about Sony's regular attack on hackers and makers.  The original comment that Marcus was responding to was chiding Techdirt, saying that our posts this week were some sort of reaction to seeing that the future isn't going to be the "fairyland" we want.  Sort of an odd statement, but Marcus responded, by pointing out that we have seen where things go in the future, and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/23195013251/sonys-neverending-war-against-freedom-to-tinker-innovate.shtml#c194">we're reasonably worried about</a> its impact on those who can't adapt:
<blockquote><i>
It's quite easy to spin what you say in the other direction. Techdirt has indeed seen where the future goes, and it is not towards greater protection and stronger IP laws. Those things are essentially impossible: there is no such thing as effective DRM and no such thing as unpirateable content, and there never will be. Given the nature of what is happening in the world since it became so gloriously interconnected, it is inevitable that information's tendency to be free will overpower its tendency to be expensive.
<br /><br />
Given that, when you see companies and creators attacking their fans, throwing temper-tantrums or reducing the value of their product with DRM and removed features, one thing is abundantly clear: they are digging their own graves. Much more frightening is when the government is complicit in this, because it erodes respect for the rule of law and teaches entire generations that those in power are clueless about the realities of technology.
<br /><br />
And so a blog like Techdirt highlights these things, because it is the right of every consumer to criticize commercial entities, and because it is the duty of any informed citizen to criticize the government when it violates people's guaranteed rights.
</i></blockquote>
The comment that came in second (juuuuust below Marcus'), from someone named Mike42 (I'm assuming he's not a clone of me), responded to someone on the post about how "piracy" sometimes looks remarkably like "freedom," in noting how freedom of speech and copyright law <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/22545113197/sometimes-piracy-freedom-look-remarkably-similar.shtml#c161">relate to each other</a>:
<blockquote><i>
The problem is this: copyright is not an inalienable right. Free speech is. Where the two conflict, free speech must win out.
<br /><br />
If you're not an American, your confusion is understandable. If you are, then your confusion is unforgivable.
</i></blockquote>
In the "editor's choice" category, I'll highlight two other comments I thought were insightful.  SageScape discussed music publishers complaining about a free archive of public domain scores and saying they used the sales from such scores to fund new artists, by noting <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110223/02180213220/music-publishers-still-annoyed-free-online-archive-public-domain-musical-scores.shtml#c29">that this made little sense</a>:
<blockquote><i>
As  I  noted  yesterday  over  on  my  blog  <a href="http://legallysociable.com/2011/02/22/settling-the-score/" rel="nofollow"> Legally  Sociable</a>,  this  makes  no  sense.    It  is  the  profit  from  selling/renting  sheet  music  composed  by  long-dead  composers  like  Beethoven  at  above-market  prices  that  allows  the  G.  Schirmer  company  "to  bring  out  more    composers&rsquo;  work"?    Insofar  as  this  even  makes  sense,  they  can  only  mean  one  of  two  things:
<br /><br />
1.    Traditional  music  publishers  can  only  continue  to  publish  public  domain  scores  if  they  can  continue  to  sell  it  at  monopoly  prices  (e.g.,  $30-50  for  "[a]  set  of  parts  for  a  mainstream  string  quartet",  according  to  the  NYTimes  article).
<p>Analysis:    Good  riddance.    IMSLP  will  publish  it  for  free.    <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Deadweight_loss" rel="nofollow"> Deadweight  loss  triange</a>:    gone.</p>
<p>2.    Traditional  music  publishers  can  only  afford  to  take  a  bath  on  contemporary  composers  if  it  can  subsidize  them  with  profits  from  public  domain  scores  of  dead  composers.
<br /><br />
Analysis:    Whatever  this  is,  it's  not  a  business  argument.    There  are  plenty  of  reasons  to  support  new  composers  (and  musicians  generally)  that  have  nothing  to  do  with  business,  of  course.    One  may  think  that  the  arts  are  intrinsically  valuable,  or  may  want  to  give  back/pay  it  forward,  or  may  simply  want  the  prestige  of  having  one's  name  connected  rising  talent  as  a  "patron".    All  fair  enough.    But  there's  no  <em> business</em>  reason  for  a  traditional  music  publisher  to  subsidize  new  talent  with  monopoly  money.    Why  should  it  do  that?    It  would  make  much  more  money  if  it  simply  sold  the  old  public  domain  stuff  and  told  new  composers  to  take  a  hike.    (Unless,  of  course,  it  does  make  money  off  the  new  composers....)<br /><br />
Just  because  a  music  publisher  <em> may</em>  have  used  some  of  its  profits  to  support  the  arts  doesn't  mean  that  they  should  be  able  to  assert  legal  rights  they  don't  have  to  public  domain  musical  scores  just  because  the  Internet  is  threatening  their  traditional  business  model.    The  arts  can  be  supported  much  more  directly  and  efficiently.    There's  no  need  to  expand  copyright  law  to  allow  a  revenue  stream  to  continue  flowing  into  the  publisher's  pockets  that  a  trickle  may  eventually  find  its  way  into  the  tip  jar  of  the  up-and-coming  composer.
</p></i></blockquote>
And then a nice short one on the post about cheap video games being more profitable for video game makers, fogbugzd responded to the question posed by the article I linked to that wondered if this was "coincidence or magic" by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110216/23141213139/maybe-super-cheap-video-games-are-helping-not-destroying-video-game-industry.shtml#c2">paraphrasing Arthur C. Clarke</a>:
<blockquote><i>
To the uninformed, basic economics in action can appear indistinguishable from magic.
</i></blockquote>
Ok.  On to the funny.  The winner here, by a <i>wide</i> margin was a commenter by the name of hmm, who <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/12161313191/amount-content-created-spite-copyright-is-staggering.shtml#c185">went biblical</a>:
<blockquote><i>
In the beginning, people (apparently) created stuff without copyright, and the corporate firmament was dark and without form.
<br /><br />
And then came a lawyer who said "LET THERE BE COPYRIGHT". and there was copyright. And he saw it wasn't good (but it could make a large amount of cash).
<br /><br />
And he said "let there be a division between the heavens (where all the men in suits could live) and the earth (where all the criminals...sorry customers..could stay) and the peaceful universe was torn in two....
<br /><br />
Now the question that the filthy dirty 'criminals' (for thusly had they been labelled by those on high) asked was "well if it takes incentive to copyright stuff, how was anyone incentivized to sit there and create a copyright law in the first place?". And the Lawyers were exceedingly angry saying "question not your master, for he is always right, and yeah verily are compulsory licenses great, woe unto he that uses p2p". and the lawyer did smite the questioner with lawsuits of fire and brimstone forever and ever, amen
</i></blockquote>
Coming in second was an Anonymous Coward's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110223/08504013232/record-labels-planning-yet-another-way-to-try-to-get-you-to-rebuy-music-you-already-bought.shtml#c368">parody of some of my critics</a>:
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Mike
<br /><br />
I shall give the appearance of having neither read nor understood anything you have ever written despite feeling the need to comment on almost everything you have ever written.
<br /><br />
To do so, I will first need to say you have taken a stance you have never taken.
<br /><br />
Why are you in favour of child molestation<br />
or <br />
Why do you support piracy<br />
or <br />
Why do you insist every business follow exactly the same business model<br />
<br />
I will now castigate you for taking these positions that you have never taken.
<br /><br />
When you cite evidence I will dismiss the citing of evidence as being pointless.
<br /><br />
When you describe the general thrust of an argument I will complain that you are not citing specific evidence.
<br /><br />
I am eternal<br />
I am ever present<br />
I am troll.<br />
and<br />
<br />
I do not possess the capacity to feel shame.
<br /><br />
Freetards are destroying us all
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On that note, I'll leave everyone to gear up to comment on another week of posts...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/00395113265/most-insightful-funniest-comments-week-techdirt.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/00395113265/most-insightful-funniest-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/00395113265/most-insightful-funniest-comments-week-techdirt.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Once again this week, it looks like one comment took home the gold medal in both categories.  And it wasn't even close, even if it was on a story that was just published late Friday morning.  So step right up <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=ronalddumsfeld">Dark Helmet</a> and claim your prize for both most insightful <i>and</i> funniest according to folks here, on your <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110204/01253512962/redskins-owner-sues-local-paper-over-satirical-listing-grievances-making-sure-more-people-read-it.shtml#c35">comment about Redskins owner Dan Snyder</a> and his complaint that a photograph of him with scribbled devil markings on it was somehow "anti-semitic":
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Ah, I see. Dan Snyder objects to the to squigly lines drawing devil horns and a goatee (by cracky) on his image because they're anti-Semetic. Dan Snyder, you see, is against images and depictions of racist and culturally insensitive nature.
<br /><br />
Hey, fuckhead. You own an NFL football team based in the nation's capital called the REDSKINS! Are you kidding me? It's an insensitive term with a stereotypical logo of an American Indian, the gall of which is only supplanted by the fact that the team is located in the home city of the governing body that raped and pillaged their people? Who the hell are you crappin'?
<br /><br />
How about some Irish immigrant owning a football team called the New York Porchmonkeys (I'm just bringing it back)? Or that Saratoga Slants? Maybe the Talahassee Towelheads? Portland Pollocks? Ooooh, the Memphis Micks (that one is close to my heart)?
<br /><br />
Way to be a hypocritical polesmoker there, D-bag....
</i></blockquote>
I almost feel like we shouldn't even bother looking at other comments after that one, but just to satisfy everyone's curiosity, the next two on the most insightful list were both short and sweet, so I'll include them both.  The first was a comment on Egypt's decision to shut down the internet, where an anonymous commenter <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110131/03454612893/look-how-egypt-shut-down-internet.shtml#c51">made a simple point</a>:
<blockquote><i>
If your government shuts down the internet, shut down your government.
</i></blockquote>
And, in discussing the study financed by NBC Universal that showed that the amount of "piracy" online was driven, in large part, by their own failure to provide legitimate alternatives, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=leigh" target="_blank">Marcus Carab</a> pointed out a key point that is so frustrating to so many of us. In responding to another <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110202/12013712931/nbc-universal-study-shows-that-its-hollywoods-own-damn-fault-so-much-content-is-pirated.shtml#c39">interesting comment</a> about the amount of data in the Library of Congress, Marcus <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110202/12013712931/nbc-universal-study-shows-that-its-hollywoods-own-damn-fault-so-much-content-is-pirated.shtml#c208">stated the unfortunate truth</a>:
<blockquote><i>
That quote highlights another thing worth noting here: we now live in and age where it's technologically trivial to have the entire library of congress in your room, and yet thanks to copyright, none of us do.
</i></blockquote>
Over on the "funny" side was a rather wry comment from anonymous user, poking a bit of fun at the people who believe that kicking people off the internet will lead to increased music sales.  So, when Egypt shut off its internet access, that commenter <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110131/03454612893/look-how-egypt-shut-down-internet.shtml#c239">asked</a>:
<blockquote><i>
I wonder how much music sales went up during this period.
</i></blockquote>
And in third place, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=thublihnk">thublihnk</a> responded to Feargal Sharkey's complaint that thinking about increasing fair use in the UK was nothing more than "intellectual masturbation" by putting it into the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110201/04173912909/uk-music-lobbyist-says-rethinking-fair-use-is-intellectual-masturbation.shtml#c21">appropriate context</a>:
<blockquote><i>
I know sometimes when I'm alone in my apartment I like to turn the lights down low, maybe light some incense and just think about the proper way to treat intellectual property in relation to content creation and distribution in the interconnected age of today.
</i></blockquote>
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<title>Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It seemed like most folks <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110114/16393612676/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week.shtml">enjoyed</a> last week's post highlighting the funniest/most insightful posts of the week, as rated by the community, so let's keep it up.  And, we're kicking it off with the one comment that flat out dominated both categories.  It got more votes than any other comment ever on the site, and sits at the top of the charts for both funny and insightful (though, it got about twice as many votes for funny as for insightful).  So, step on up <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=johnjac">Johnjac</a>, you win for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110119/02303312714/riaa-threatening-icann-about-music-claiming-it-will-be-used-to-infringe.shtml#c41">this lovely comment</a> parodying the RIAA's threats to ICANN concerning the .music domain:
<blockquote><i>
Billions of children are born with ears every year. What are doctors doing to make sure these ears are not being used to listen to illegal music?
<br /><br />
RIAA would love to work the medical professionals to stop music piracy at its source, the human ear.
We strongly urge you to take these concerns seriously... we prefer a practical solution to these issues, and hope to avoid the need to escalate the issue further.
</i></blockquote>
Coming in second on the insightful scale was (interestingly) also a commenter taking a letter written by industry folks, and "rewriting" it.  In this case, it was commenter stellarwaif, who wrote a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml#c297" target="_blank">rebuttal letter</a> to the letter written by a bunch of companies in favor of censoring the internet, via domain name seizures and anti-due process laws like COICA:
<blockquote><i>
Here's my rebuttal letter. I encourage all innovative companies to read and if they agree, to sign this letter!
<br /><br />
We run companies large and small that represent diverse aspects of America&rsquo;s intellectual property community. While our employees live in different regions of the country, and work to produce a variety of goods and services, they have several important things in common &ndash; they work hard, they are committed to quality and innovation and they welcome competition. However, allowing a small group of companies to prevent fair competition in the marketplace cannot be tolerated. Supporting draconian intellectual property laws and punishing consumers for freedom of choice diminishes the market&rsquo;s ability to freely innovate and build upon past successes and failures, and cannot be tolerated. In order to protect our free enterprise system, and the standard of living it has contributed to our nation, it is critical that we multiply our efforts to encourage development of new marketplaces, identify and break down the barriers created from unsustainable business models, and provide even greater freedom to consumers for what we create and produce.
<br /><br />
Thus, we are appalled by the effort and energy behind Operation in Our Sites. The actions dictated on November 29, 2010 once again demonstrated that, just as in the physical world, defendants and courts are presented with indefensible arguments and poor evidence to distinguish between legitimate innovative businesses and archaic and failed enterprises that abuse the law and profit from denying the ingenuity of others. We believe that the online marketplace is the rightful domain of consumers and our task as creators is to respect their voice &ndash; and urge you to stop acts against the kinds of domains that you have targeted without due process nor respect for property rights and the rule of law. Fortunately, there are many options available for sites to continue to provide creative business ideas, and we believe that your efforts will drive consumers further away from failed online ventures and services that have worked hard to remain in business -- without fostering customer support.
<br /><br />
We encourage you to work with your colleagues in the Administration and the Congress toward defeat of the principles central to S. 3804 &ndash; the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act. The legislation crafted by Senators Leahy and Hatch was unanimously approved by the uninformed Senate Judiciary Committee and roundly condemned by numerous organizations and media outlets, and will undoubtedly be reintroduced this congress. The proposal continues to pervert law enforcement techniques at the heart of &ldquo;Operation In Our Sites&rdquo; and attempts to ensure that private corporations can force the government to stifle competition and fair use without judicial oversight and without fairness under the law. The legislation will ensure that targeted sites will evade U.S. jurisdiction by creating a new class of registrar and domain name system unimpeded by governmental interference, regardless of source. In addition, the Leahy-Hatch proposal provides yet another level of protection for entrenched U.S. rights holders by establishing the legal framework necessary to protect failed business models of domestic sites and starving legitimate and creative businesses of the right to compete and thrive in a fair and level marketplace that all consumers can access. The dangerously imbalanced measure would allow American law enforcement officials and U.S. courts to create an island of stifled innovation and propel thriving businesses away from the Internet within the U.S. market while further smothering consumer choice and innovation so as to allow select businesses to reap diminishing financial gain for themselves.
<br /><br />
We hope that you will cease dedicating any resources to Operation in Our Sites and reconsider support for the rule of law and for due process, and work toward legislation for a free, balanced and open marketplace, by the consumer, and for the consumer.
</i></blockquote>
I won't post the actual comments, but a whole bunch of comments on the response to Jim D'Addario were voted highly, so you can read Ima Fish on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml#c64">the government's role</a> in protecting business models, the official Anonymous Coward on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml#c129">how shooting first and asking questions later</a> can backfire, Karl reminding us that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml#c203">the conflation of counterfeiting with copyright</a> is a big part of the problem here, and last but not least, Chosen Reject highlighting <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/04272412742/jim-daddario-defends-his-support-coica-domain-seizures.shtml#c333">a Samuel Adam's quote</a> concerning those who "love wealth greater than liberty."
<br /><br />
On the funny side, not only did Johnjac take the top position, but he took the second place spot as well, in response to our post about the Reagan library indoctrinating children to hate freedom of the press, because accurate reporting might harm people, John <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110117/23364212705/indoctrinating-children-to-hate-freedom-press.shtml#c2">warned us as well</a> asking:
<blockquote><i>
<b>Why is Techdirt irresponsibly reporting on this?</b>
<br /><br />
What if some harm comes to the library or worse its staff due this report?
<br /><br />
For Shame. For Shame.
</i></blockquote>
Close behind that was a comment from Mr. LemurBoy, choosing some rather <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110114/01071412667/australian-politician-compares-attempts-to-silence-assange-with-catholic-church-silencing-galileo.shtml#c13">groan-inducing gags</a> concerning the Australian politician, who seemed to think it was a <i>good thing</i> that the Catholic church silenced Galileo for a century and assumed that governments could do that to Julian Assange:
<blockquote><i>
Oh, it's not a joke. Just think of the <b>gravity</b> of the situation.
<br /><br />
Maybe the politician thinks he's the <b>center of the universe</b>?
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Separately, the story of the 82-year-old woman, who had trouble going through airport security in Canada with her prosthetic (gel-filled) breast (due to breast cancer) and a physical inability to lift her left arm as required by the naked scanner, led to many funny comments.  Kevin pointed out <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110114/17181812687/82-year-old-cancer-survivor-demands-apology-airport-security-over-screening.shtml#c204">the details of what she should have done</a>, including getting a background check on the "technicians, assemblers, testers, nurses, doctors, and anyone else who may have handled the prosthetic."  And then both pixelpusher220 and Dark Helmet had a nice run with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110114/17181812687/82-year-old-cancer-survivor-demands-apology-airport-security-over-screening.shtml#c127">attempts</a> to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110114/17181812687/82-year-old-cancer-survivor-demands-apology-airport-security-over-screening.shtml#c211">Monty Python</a> the situation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110121/16295112773/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110121/16295112773/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110121/16295112773/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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