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<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 08:36:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Homeland Security's ICE Group Cuts Off Dwolla Bitcoin Transfers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<em><strong>Update:</strong> The DHS has <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/feds-reveal-the-search-warrant-that-seized-mt-gox-account/">released a copy of the warrant</a>, which claims probable cause to believe that Mt. Gox is engaging in money transmitting without a license.</em>
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We've discussed in the past how the government seems very <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">skeptical</a> of Bitcoin, and now it may be doing something about it.  As a whole bunch of you have sent in, ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement), a division of Homeland Security -- best known around here for its cowboy attitude towards <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/08225217010/breaking-news-feds-falsely-censor-popular-blog-over-year-deny-all-due-process-hide-all-details.shtml">censoring websites</a> with no basis -- has <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57584511-38/homeland-security-cuts-off-dwolla-bitcoin-transfers/" target="_blank">cut off Dwolla transfers to Mt. Gox</a>, the biggest Bitcoin exchange, preventing Dwolla from processing any Bitcoin transfers.  According to Declan McCullagh at News.com:
<blockquote><i>
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security confirmed it has initiated legal action that prompted the Dwolla payment service to stop processing bitcoin transactions.
<br /><br />
Nicole Navas, a spokesperson for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, confirmed the legal action to CNET this afternoon.
</i></blockquote>
Chris Coyne, from Ok Cupid, <a href="https://twitter.com/malgorithms/status/334395559366520832" target="_blank">posted a screenshot of an email</a> from Dwolla claiming that ICE had "seized" the account of Mt. Gox:
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Mt. Gox, for its part, claims this is the first it's heard of anything:
<blockquote><i>
MtGox has read on the Internet that the United States Department of Homeland Security had a court order and/or warrant issued from the United States District Court in Maryland which it served upon the Dwolla mobile payment service with respect to accounts used for trading with MtGox. We take this information seriously. However, as of this time we have not been provided with a copy of the court order and/or warrant, and do not know its scope and/or the reasons for its issuance. MtGox is investigating and will provide further reports when additional information becomes known.
</i></blockquote>
I would imagine there will be a lot more to this story, but for the moment details are scarce.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/08141123095/homeland-securitys-ice-group-cuts-off-dwolla-bitcoin-transfers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/08141123095/homeland-securitys-ice-group-cuts-off-dwolla-bitcoin-transfers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/08141123095/homeland-securitys-ice-group-cuts-off-dwolla-bitcoin-transfers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Do You Trust Digital Currencies?</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110126/14520212846/dailydirt-digital-currency.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Global financial markets have shown that respectable currencies can be threatened by the actions of relatively small economies. The basis of modern money is trust, not the value of gold or of any particular physical goods. Perhaps digital currencies could provide some alternatives for small countries (who shall remain nameless, cough, Cyprus, cough, Luxembourg...), but there's still a problem of trust to resolve. It's not always easy to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101102/10463011687/dailydirt-money-we-trust-sometimes.shtml">just switch to a new currency</a>. Here are just a few forms of digital money that might be floating around.

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<li> <a title="https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html" href="http://bit.ly/1219D2R">Amazon Coins are yet another virtual currency -- specifically for buying virtual goods on Amazon's Kindle tablet.</a> One Amazon Coin is equal to the value of a US penny, and everyone will soon be collecting them, so get them before they're all gone.... [<a href="https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/27/business/e-commerce-report-seller-of-online-currency-may-have-been-victim-of-fraud.html" href="http://nyti.ms/1219OLv">Flooz.com officially shut down in 2001, putting an end to its digital currency that was used on the internet as an early kind of electronic gift certificate.</a> Thousands of people had bought Flooz (at an exchange rate of 1 USD to 1 Flooz), but the company had also sold ~$300,000 worth of Flooz via fraudulent credit card transactions, which ultimately doomed the company. [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/27/business/e-commerce-report-seller-of-online-currency-may-have-been-victim-of-fraud.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/04/the-future-of-bitcoin.html" href="http://nyr.kr/XG75ry">Bitcoins are still getting attention, even after some serious missteps, but the market for Bitcoins isn't quite trustworthy yet.</a> If Bitcoins do succeed in gaining mainstream use, will there be a flood of digital currencies based on a variety of different cryptographic rules? [<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/04/the-future-of-bitcoin.html">url</a>]</li>

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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:50 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Feds Take A Step Closer To Trying To Regulate Bitcoin</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We're still somewhat <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">skeptical</a> about the longterm prospects for Bitcoin, even if it has shown the ability to rebound after its initial hypecycle <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml">crashed</a>.  However, we've always known that the government was uncomfortable with the concept of Bitcoin.  From Senator Chuck Schumer insisting that it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">was money laundering</a> to the FBI <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/10550418870/fbi-explores-implications-bitcoin.shtml">exploring</a> the technology, you knew that sooner or later the government would try to do something.
<br /><br />
Recently, they took a step in the direction of trying to gain some tiny bit of control over Bitcoin by having the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) issue new guidelines concerning <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/us-regulator-bitcoin-exchanges-must-comply-with-money-laundering-laws/" target="_blank">rules for (unnamed) "de-centralized virtual currency."</a>  Basically, the rules say that "money services businesses" including "money transmitters" will have to report "potentially suspicious transactions" to the government -- which potentially could involve a decent number of Bitcoin transactions.  The question was who qualifies, and the new rules basically suggest if there's a connection to another currency (say... US dollars), then you've got an issue.  Users of Bitcoin are clearly exempted, but with sellers... it's not so clear. As Tim Lee explains:
<blockquote><i>
On the other hand, "a person that creates units of convertible virtual currency and sells those units to another person for real currency or its equivalent is engaged in transmission to another location and is a money transmitter," and is therefore subject to federal regulations.
<br /><br />
However, this may only apply to those who perform money transmitting services "as a business." FinCEN says that "a user of virtual currency is not an MSB under FinCEN's regulations and therefore is not subject to MSB registration, reporting, and record keeping regulations." But with a peer-to-peer currency, the line between a "user" and an "administrator or exchanger" is not at all clear. The regulations define an exchanger as someone who "engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency."
</i></blockquote>
Of course, with an unclear rule, you can bet that some people are going to test the boundaries -- and that could eventually lead to a very interesting case, challenging specific aspects of Bitcoin.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/03034522451/feds-take-step-closer-to-trying-to-regulate-bitcoin.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/03034522451/feds-take-step-closer-to-trying-to-regulate-bitcoin.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130325/03034522451/feds-take-step-closer-to-trying-to-regulate-bitcoin.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:58:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>A New Issue For Bitcoin: Crypto Key Disclosure</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>The <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">debate</a> is still raging whether Bitcoin is a brilliant idea that will revolutionize business and society, a high-tech <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">money laundering</a> scheme, or just a fad that will soon pass into history.  But in a fascinating post, <a href="http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/key-disclosure-laws-can-be-used-to.html">Jon Matonis points to a problem</a> that doesn't really seem to have been considered before:

<i><blockquote>Key disclosure laws may become the most important government tool in asset seizures and the war on money laundering. When charged with a criminal offense, that refers to the ability of the government to demand that you surrender your private encryption keys that decrypt your data. If your data is currency such as access control to various amounts of bitcoin on the block chain, then you have surrendered your financial transaction history and potentially the value itself.</blockquote></i>

That's no mere theoretical issue in countries like <a href="https://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Privacy/security.html#ccb01">Australia</a>, <a href="http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/57223-cryptography-and-jailtime-in-sa.html">South Africa</a> and the <a href="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/23/contents">UK</a> that already have such key disclosure laws. 
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Matonis reviews the limited US case law here, and concludes:

<i><blockquote>To say the cryptocurrency bitcoin is disruptive would be an understatement. Bitcoin not only disrupts payments and monetary sovereignty, it also disrupts the legal enforcement of anti-money laundering laws, asset seizure, and capital controls. It is very likely that a key disclosure case will make it to the U.S. Supreme Court where it is far from certain that the Fifth Amendment privilege, as it relates to a refusal to decrypt bitcoin assets, will be universally upheld.</blockquote></i>

Perhaps that's something to bear in mind if you're currently using Bitcoin in the belief that they'll never be able to force you to reveal your assets and transaction history.
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Follow me @glynmoody on <a href="http://twitter.com/glynmoody">Twitter</a> or <a href="http://identi.ca/glynmoody">identi.ca</a>, and on <a href="https://plus.google.com/100647702320088380533">Google+</a></p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/07064320429/new-issue-bitcoin-crypto-key-disclosure.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/07064320429/new-issue-bitcoin-crypto-key-disclosure.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/07064320429/new-issue-bitcoin-crypto-key-disclosure.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Silk Road: Illicit Goods Plus Anonymity Equals... A Fairly Small Business</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The anonymous marketplace Silk Road got some attention about a year ago when Gawker did a big <a href="http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable" target="_blank">expose on the site</a>, which can only be accessed via the TOR network, and which requires Bitcoin for all purchases.  That bit of publicity also resulted in Senator Chuck Schumer <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">demanding</a> something be done about the site, while also suggesting that Bitcoin itself was a form of money laundering.  While there are a bunch of similar sites, the "publicity" has established Silk Road as the most well known such site.
<br /><br />
Nicolas Christin, from Carnegie Mellon, recently released a fascinating research paper <a href="http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nicolasc/publications/TR-CMU-CyLab-12-018.pdf" target="_blank">analyzing the Silk Road marketplace</a>.  Christin also <a href="http://surprisinglyfree.com/2012/08/28/nicolas-christin/" target="_blank">recently appeared on Jerry Brito's <i>Surprisingly Free</i> podcast</a>, which is where I first heard about the report.
<br /><br />
There are a bunch of interesting things in the report itself, but a few key points that seemed especially interesting.  The market is surprisingly stable.  You might think with a very (but certainly not totally) anonymous marketplace, that seems to focus mostly on illegal products, using a really volatile currency, that the market itself would be pretty volatile as well.  But the data does not suggest that at all.  Also, you might expect a number of scammers to use the site, but (like plenty of regular online marketplaces), Silk Road has a rating system, and the research found that there was tremendous customer satisfaction:
<blockquote><i>
On a site like Silk Road, where, as shown above, most of the goods sold are illicit, one would expect a certain amount of deception to occur. Indeed, a buyer choosing, for instance, to purchase heroin from an anonymous seller would have very little recourse if the goods promised are not delivered. Surprisingly, though, most transactions on Silk Road seem to generate excellent feedback from buyers. Table 3 provides a breakdown of the feedback ratings from 187,825 feedback instances we collected. 97.8% of feedback posted was positive (4 or 5 on a scale of 1 to 5). In contrast, only 1.4% of feedback was negative (1 or 2 on the same scale).
</i></blockquote>
Also, it will come as little to no surprise that the vast majority of products for sale are not what most people would consider legal.  Drugs seem to represent an overwhelming percentage of items for sale, though there are also things like "books" for sale.
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Finally, it doesn't appear that the "business" is really <i>that</i> big.  For all the talk and publicity around it, you might think it was a decently sized operation, but there's little to support that.  When Christin began his research back in November last year, there were only 220 sellers.  By the time he finished in July, it was 564.  So the number is growing, but it's still not a huge number.  Christin also made some reasonable assumptions and estimates to suggest that approximately $1.9 million worth of transactions happened on Silk Road in a month.  Translating the commissions, he believes that the site's operators likely brought in approximately $143,000 per month in commissions.  At first glance that may sound like a lot but, assuming rather significant costs to operating and maintaining the site while keeping everything as secret as possible, there really isn't that much left for "staff," though no one has any idea how big a "team" there is involved in the operation.  It's possible it's just one person, of course, in which case, the money is probably pretty good (and growing).
<br /><br />
The report also notes various ways that such a site might be disrupted... and you have to imagine that law enforcement has been working on doing exactly that.  It won't surprise me at all to find out that the operators of the site eventually do get tracked down, but I doubt that will stop these kinds of marketplaces from existing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120901/23103320254/silk-road-illicit-goods-plus-anonymity-equals-fairly-small-business.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120901/23103320254/silk-road-illicit-goods-plus-anonymity-equals-fairly-small-business.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120901/23103320254/silk-road-illicit-goods-plus-anonymity-equals-fairly-small-business.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 11:56:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>FBI Explores The Implications Of Bitcoin</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember Bitcoin?  The online cryptographic currency that got a lot of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">attention</a> last year, but quickly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml">faded</a>?  There was some political grandstanding against it, like when Senator Chuck Schumer declared that Bitcoin was a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">form of money laundering</a>.  And, now, the FBI is trying to understand Bitcoin, sending around a document <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/fbi-fears-bitcoin/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired27b %28Blog - 27B Stroke 6 %28Threat Level%29%29" target="_blank">warning that criminals might (*gasp*) use Bitcoin</a>.
<br /><br />
The report is pretty even-handed, actually.  It notes that there's a reasonable likelihood that "malicious actors will exploit Bitcoin to launder money."  However, it at least admits, noting that this is no different than <i>cash</i>, that users of Bitcoin "value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, services or a national currency at a later date."  It does highlight some "unique features" that make Bitcoin especially suited for illegal activity -- but most of those just seem to be <i>examples</i> of Bitcoin being used for questionable activity, rather than specific features of Bitcoin.
<br /><br />
It also suggests that the FBI isn't that worried about the fact that some uses of Bitcoin can be anonymous -- noting (correctly) that it's not as anonymous as some people think, and good old fashioned detective work can often uncover the people:
<blockquote><i>
Although Bitcoin does not have a centralized authority, the FBI assesses with
medium confidence that law enforcement can discover more information about, and in some
cases identify, malicious actors, if the actors convert their bitcoins into a fiat currency. Thirdparty
bitcoin services may require customers to submit valid identification or bank information
to complete transactions. Furthermore, any third-party service that qualifies as a money
transmitter, and therefore a MSB, must register with the FinCEN and implement an anti-money
laundering program.
</i></blockquote>
All in all, I actually expected more hyperbole and fear mongering, but seeing as this was meant for internal use, rather than for political gain, it seems like the paper was pretty even-handed.  Of course, none of that matters at all if no one is using Bitcoin any more...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/10550418870/fbi-explores-implications-bitcoin.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/10550418870/fbi-explores-implications-bitcoin.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/10550418870/fbi-explores-implications-bitcoin.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:56:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>The Rise And Fall Of Bitcoin... But Is It Really Over  Yet?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back in April, just as Bitcoin was starting to get some mainstream attention, I <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">questioned</a> its ability to succeed long term.  Too much about it felt like a fad, and there seemed to be significant questions about it.  However, over the next few months, as the price of Bitcoins rose quickly, and there was more and more interest in it, I wondered if perhaps my natural skepticism got the best of me.  Of course, since then, the Bitcoin market has come way back down, and the concept has definitely lost a lot of its "shiny new thing" appeal.
<br /><br />
Wired is running a <a href="http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all/1" target="_blank">detailed article on "The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin,"</a> which is a worthwhile read.  Of course, it seems to be premised on the idea that Bitcoin is more or less dead -- a fad that came and went.  Indeed, my initial post on Bitcoin questioned whether it would just be a fad.  I still think it's likely... but I'm wondering if the big flare up over the past few months might be <i>good</i> for Bitcoin in the long run.  Lots of speculators came and went, and Bitcoin gets to be ignored once more.  Might that create a space to allow for a more sustainable ecosystem to be built, while the speculators and swindlers have moved on?  Maybe.  I'm still thinking that Bitcoin is most likely a fad that will die out.  But sometimes a big flame out early on is a good way to obscure work that comes out of the ashes.
<br /><br />
If I had to guess (and it's purely a guess), I'd say that the real legacy of Bitcoin may be in how it paved a path.  The more interesting area to watch might not be what happens to Bitcoin specifically, but what <i>the next</i> attempt at such a currency brings around.  There are lots of smart people looking at what happened to Bitcoin, and someone's going to come up with a better mousetrap.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:38:33 PDT</pubDate>
<title>New Yorker Reporter May Have Uncovered Secretive Bitcoin Creator</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's been plenty of press attention on Bitcoin over the last six to eight months, and many talk about how Bitcoin came about in a rather secretive manner by someone going by the name "Satoshi Nakamoto," who then basically disappeared.  No one seems to know who Nakamoto is.  However, in a <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis" target="_blank">new New Yorker article</a> (mostly hidden behind a paywall), reporter Joshua Davis may have tracked down Nakamoto.  While the New Yorker is going to lose traffic and interest in this story by not putting it online, it's opened up the opportunity for others, such as the folks at <i>Planet Money</i>, who have the key details: including the <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/10/03/141011155/did-a-reporter-just-solve-the-bitcoin-mystery" target="_blank">belief that "Nakamoto" is likely a guy named Michael Clear</a>.
<blockquote><i>
So Davis, the author of the New Yorker story, emails Clear.                           <p>"I like to keep a low profile," Clear replies. "I'm curious to know how you found me."</p>                           <p>Davis eventually cuts to the chase:</p>                           <blockquote class="edTag">                           <p>Finally, I asked, "Are you Satoshi?"</p>                           <p>He laughed, but didn't respond. There was an awkward silence.</p>                           <p>"If you like, I'd be happy to review the design for you," he offered instead. "I could let you know what I think."</p>                           <p>"Sure," I said hesitantly. "Do you need me to send you a link to the code?"</p>                           <p>"I think I can find it," he said.</p>                           </blockquote>                           <p>In the end, Clear says he's not the guy &mdash; but his denial leaves the door open just a crack:</p>                           <blockquote class="edTag">                           <p>"I'm not Satoshi," Clear said. "But even if I was I wouldn't tell you."</p>
</blockquote></i></blockquote>
The other key point is that Clear points out a weakness in the Bitcoin code: encryption for wallets.  When <i>Planet Money's</i> Jacob Goldstein asks another Bitcoin expert about what's new in Bitcoin, the guy points out that the latest version... has wallet encryption.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/17560716191/new-yorker-reporter-may-have-uncovered-secretive-bitcoin-creator.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/17560716191/new-yorker-reporter-may-have-uncovered-secretive-bitcoin-creator.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/17560716191/new-yorker-reporter-may-have-uncovered-secretive-bitcoin-creator.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:03:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Explains His Legal Theory</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110708/00564015004/lawyer-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-explains-his-legal-theory.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We just wrote about how lawyer Michael Pascazi was trying to file for a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml">US trademark on "Bitcoin,"</a> which most people agreed was laughable.  Making it even more ridiculous was that his attempt to prove use in commerce was apparently to have his wife send a letter to a relative of hers offering to sell some Bitcoins.  The whole thing was quite dubious, but Pascazi himself <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml#c106" target="_blank">stopped by our comments to elaborate</a>.
<br /><br />
First, he claimed that "for strategic reasons," he and his wife had abandoned the US trademark filing... but, at the same time, they've commenced trademark applications in other countries, which have a first to file rule, rather than a first to use:
<blockquote><i>
Simultaneously therewith, trademark applications have begun in those civil law countries, wherein, "first to use" status is not recognized as a defense to trademark registration. These civil law countries, which account for most of the world's population, and land mass, only recognize a "first to file" basis for trademark registration. The penalties for infringing trademarks in those civil law "first to file" countries are as severe as the common law jurisdictions, such as the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, etc., which utilize a "first to use" basis.
<br /><br />
Therefore, jumping up and down exhorting that "Bitcoin" has been in use in the USA, or another common law country, since the dark ages is no defense, repeat no defense, to a claim of infringement of a properly registered mark in a "first to file" jurisdiction. 
</i></blockquote>
Pretty shameless.  He's basically admitting that he has no actual rights to Bitcoin, but he's going to try to use the fact that many countries (especially the EU and India) have a first-to-file system, to take ownership of the word.  Thankfully, another lawyer, John William Nelson, who actually is an expert in these areas (Pascazi is not), explained why Pascazi's new, extra slimy, scheme <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml#c146">probably won't work either</a>:
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Mr. Pascazi does not really understand trademark law, it appears. While he is correct that many civil law countries have a first-to-file process, that does not mean they have no ability to challenge the issuance of the mark.
<br /><br />
A trademark must be a source identifier. In other words, Mr. Pascazi's 'client' must be recognized as the source of a product by consumers if the mark Bitcoin is used.
<br /><br />
As for enforcing international marks in the U.S., this is not as easily done as Mr. Pascazi would hope. Especially if he is able to obtain a registration abroad on such shaky grounds. It could still be subject to the same cancellation process as a U.S. mark.
<br /><br />
The question is whether Mr. Pascazi will truly try and enforce a foreign mark on foreign soil. Paying international lawyers is not cheap.
<br /><br />
And will he continue to maintain the mark and defend it against attacks?
<br /><br />
Mr. Pascazi's client is over-reaching. I recommend Mr. Pascazi or his lawyer consult real trademark attorneys about this. They might receive more thorough advice.
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Couple Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Via Dubious Claims</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Via <a href="http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/07/07/0326213/Lawyer-Attempts-To-Trademark-Bitcoin" target="_blank">Slashdot</a> we learn that someone has <a href="http://rogerwehbe.com/?p=73" target="_blank">filed for a trademark on the word Bitcoin</a>.
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The Slashdot report claims that it's the lawyer, Michael S. Pascazi, filing for the trademark, but it's at least a little more complicated.  It looks like Pascazi is acting as counsel for Magellan Capital Advisors.  However, it does appear that Pascazi may have some further direct connection to Magellan, as the example of "first use" in commerce sent with the trademark filing is a letter from Magellan to some guy (Michel Mouchon) offering to sell "Bitcoin"... and the letter is signed by Celine M. Pascazi, which the Slashdot report says is Michael's wife.  Furthermore, Pascazi's law firm has put up a <a href="http://www.pascazilaw.com/files/New_Coin_of_the_Realm_062311.pdf" target="_blank">pdf file</a> touting the benefits of Bitcoin, and noting that Bitcoin is pending trademark to Magellan.  On top of that, the pdf lists Celine Mouchon Pascazi as working for the Pascazi Law Offices.
<br><br>
Mouchon?  Oh wait.  Michel Mouchon is the person the original offer was made to...  I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?
<br><br>
Yeah, it's not hard to put two and two together here.  I mean, just the fact that they're claiming the first use in commerce was June 22nd of this year should lead to the application not passing the laugh test.  But I do wonder, are there penalties for trying to mislead the USPTO in a trademark filing?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/12090715000/couple-trying-to-trademark-bitcoin-via-dubious-claims.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:38:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>EFF Drops Bitcoin Over Concerns About Legality</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I have to admit to being both <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">skeptical and fascinated</a> about Bitcoin.  I think it's a very interesting experiment worth following, but I'm just not sure it can really succeed (though, I think it may create some lessons that others can build on).  However, it has been growing, getting attention and popping up as an acceptable currency in some <a href="http://falkvinge.net/2011/06/06/bitcoins-four-hurdles-part-two-transactions/" target="_blank">surprising places</a>, and not surprisingly, there's been some significant backlash, with some folks pointing out its problems, and even some (mostly clueless) politicians <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">threatening Bitcoin</a>.
<br /><br />
Making things interesting is the news that <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/eff-and-bitcoin" target="_blank">the EFF will no longer accept Bitcoin</a>.  It had started accepting Bitcoin donations a little while ago, but has since rethought the concept for a few reasons.  The key point is that they're not entirely sure of the legality of Bitcoin and its uses, and want to avoid getting mixed up in a lawsuit over that as a subject, rather than as an advocate:
<blockquote><i>
We don't fully understand the complex legal issues involved with creating a new currency system.  Bitcoin raises untested legal concerns related to securities law, the Stamp Payments Act, tax evasion, consumer protection and money laundering, among others. And that&rsquo;s just in the U.S. While EFF is often the defender of people ensnared in legal issues arising from new technologies, we try very hard to keep EFF from becoming the actual subject of those fights or issues. Since there is no caselaw on this topic, and the legal implications are still very unclear, we worry that our acceptance of Bitcoins may move us into the possible subject role. 
</i></blockquote>
Some, such as Jim Harper, find <a href="http://techliberation.com/2011/06/21/eff-gone-wobbly-on-bitcoin/?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+techliberation+%28Technology+Liberation+Front%29" target="_blank">this reasoning to be weak</a>, saying that this is a bogus excuse, since lots of technologies that the EFF uses are legally ambiguous at the start:
<blockquote><i>
Bitcoin is legally novel. But every new technology is legally novel. EFF didn&rsquo;t shy away from publishing commentary online while publisher liability was legally ambiguous.
<br /><br />
Accepting a Bitcoin donation is like accepting a donation in kind, in contract rights, or in cat food. If it&rsquo;s worth taking, you go figure out how to accept the donation and square it with existing law. If it&rsquo;s clearly illegal, you don&rsquo;t accept the contribution. (EFF would have said so if they felt it was.) If it&rsquo;s in the middle, a defender of rights to use technology should be inclined toward accepting Bitcoin and clarifying the law, not away from accepting Bitcoin in deference to legal ambiguity and free-ranging government power.
</i></blockquote>
I recognize both arguments, and I think that the EFF is basically saying it's interested in these issues, and certainly willing to get involved in a potential legal dispute down the road -- but it would prefer to do it as an advocate, rather than as the subject of a lawsuit -- and it still doesn't fully understand the legal implications (and, likely, technical situation) of Bitcoin itself, so it doesn't have a firm position on the issue that makes it worth fighting for.  I respect that, though, I do wonder why the EFF didn't consider this originally and simply not use Bitcoin in the first place.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110621/02402314783/eff-drops-bitcoin-over-concerns-about-legality.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110621/02402314783/eff-drops-bitcoin-over-concerns-about-legality.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110621/02402314783/eff-drops-bitcoin-over-concerns-about-legality.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:26:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Senator Schumer Says Bitcoin Is Money Laundering</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few months back, we explored <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">Bitcoin</a>, and the growing attention it was receiving.  The distributed currency has certainly been getting a lot of attention lately (causing the exchange rate to skyrocket).  Of course, as with any such thing, there was bound to be some sort of backlash from political circles, and this one was extremely predictable.  Last week, Gawker wrote a story about <a href="http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable" target="_blank">Silk Road</a>, the online drug marketplace that users can only access via TOR and where the only currency accepted is Bitcoin.  To be honest, the story sounds a little <i>too</i> good, and too "Hollywood" to be real, but perhaps it is real.  I find it a little difficult to believe that it has all that many users, given the complex nature of getting it to work.
<br><Br>
Either way, Senator Chuck Schumer, who can grandstand with the best of them, apparently got handed that article and saw an opportunity to publicly <a href="http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/123187958.html" target="_blank">demand that something must be done about Silk Road</a>.  It seems clear from his remarks that Senator Schumer has never heard of TOR:
<blockquote><i>
"Literally, it allows buyers and users to sell illegal drugs online, including heroin, cocaine, and meth, and users do sell by hiding their identities through a program that makes them virtually untraceable," Schumer said at a news conference Sunday. "It's a certifiable one-stop shop for illegal drugs that represents the most brazen attempt to peddle drugs online that we have ever seen. It's more brazen than anything else by lightyears."
</i></blockquote>
Lightyears?  Really?  In <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/06/05/136971766/senators-target-website-that-sells-narcotics" target="_blank">another report</a> he claims that Silk Road and other drug sites are "flooding our streets" with drugs.  Except... they're not.  There are probably a small handful of people using things like Silk Road today, and they're almost certainly doing it for home use, rather than to "flood the streets."  But, that doesn't make for as good a form of grandstanding.
<br><br>
As for "the program that makes them virtually untraceable," he seems to ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton (his former co-Senator from the state of New York) has talked up the value of software like TOR, which makes identities untraceable, as an important tool for freedom of expression around the world.  Thankfully, Schumer doesn't seem to go quite as far as directly blaming TOR, though he doesn't appear to separate TOR from Silk Road, despite them being two different things.  Also, lightyears?  Really?
<br><br>
What he <i>does</i> go after, however, is Bitcoin:
<blockquote><i>
"It's an online form of money laundering used to disguise the source of money, and to disguise who's both selling and buying the drug," said Schumer.
</i></blockquote>
Um.  You know what else is a form of currency that is used to disguise the source of money?  <b><i>Cash</i></b>.  And, last I checked, it's still legal tender.  Blaming the semi-anonymous nature of Bitcoin is severely misplaced.  In fact, in the original Gawker article, there's an update at the end (perhaps Schumer didn't get that far, or never reloaded) where it points out that Bitcoin really isn't quite that anonymous, and quotes a Bitcoin developer as noting that trying to buy drugs via Bitcoin "is pretty damned dumb."
<br><br>
But, according to Schumer, it's "a form of money laundering."
<br><br>
This will get interesting.  No matter what you think of Bitcoin (and I'm certainly not sold on the concept), it's pretty clear that governments will attack such forms of currency if given the chance.  A silly story about something like Silk Road opens up just such a chance.  My guess is that Schumer won't actually do anything about Bitcoin right now (the focus appears to be mainly on Silk Road), but it won't be long before we see more politicians seeking ways to "do something" about Bitcoin by falsely painting it as something evil, just because some people use it for illegal purposes.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110605/22322814558/senator-schumer-says-bitcoin-is-money-laundering.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: In Money We Trust</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110214/12431213087/dailydirt-money-we-trust.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Fiat money only has value because governments have established its value by decree. And the value of currencies can be reset -- such as Brazil's cruzeiro currency when it was replaced by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano_Real">Unit of Real Value</a> (URV). Here are just a few quick links on other somewhat "temporary" currencies.
<ul>
<li> <a title="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-money" href="http://n.pr/l2Dg9k">Long ago, the island of Yap created huge, heavy, carved pieces of limestone as a form of currency.</a> Since moving the stones is pretty difficult, these "coins" are transferred abstractly by just changing who owns the stone. [<a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-money">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=37619" href="http://bit.ly/kEiDDH">Bitcoin is a digital currency based on a cryptographic scheme -- preventing fraudulent transactions and allowing for reliable transfers without central banking entities.</a> Interestingly, Bitcoin (briefly) achieved parity with the US dollar earlier this year, but it hasn't sustained that value. [<a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=37619">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Q1-2011-Linden-Dollar-Economy-Metrics-Up-Users-and-Usage/ba-p/856693" href="http://bit.ly/kw3yfi">The virtual economy of Second Life is based on another digital currency, the Linden dollar.</a> However, the Linden dollar is governed by Terms of Service that explicitly state that the Linden is not real currency or any type of financial instrument. [<a href="http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Q1-2011-Linden-Dollar-Economy-Metrics-Up-Users-and-Usage/ba-p/856693">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting stuff on economics, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:137" href="http://bit.ly/mPvUHR">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:137">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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<title>Can Bitcoin Really Succeed Long Term?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For quite some time, I've been interested in the general concept of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0230575943.shtml">currencies</a> and how money works in general.  I remember an early episode of NPR's <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/" target="_blank">Planet Money</a> podcast, in which they tried to answer the simple question: 
what is money?  They quickly discovered it's not an easy question to answer (and, in fact, those working on the podcast have revisited the question many times in many interesting ways -- including a fascinating episode a few months back looking at <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-money" target"_blank">the Island of Stone Money</a>.  That episode discussed the island of Yap in the South Pacific, that for many years used massive limestone discs as money.  And, by massive, I mean sometimes weighing upwards of a ton.  In other words, it didn't have one of the key features that many normally associate with "money," which is that it's a "currency of exchange."  In theory, you can't easily "exchange" a giant rock.
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But the clever islanders on Yap came up with a solution.  It was made clear who actually owned which stones, and then you could effectively transfer "title" to the stones, even if you didn't move the stones themselves.  There was even the story of boat that was bringing in a new giant limestone disc (the limestone all came from another island), and due to a storm, the boat capsized and the stone sunk to the bottom of the ocean.  However, it still counted as money, just so long as everyone knew whose it was.  Now, when you hear that at first, it sounds ridiculous, but as the Planet Money folks pointed out, is it really all that different than your bank account?  The only reason you have "money" in your bank account is because the bank marks it in its database.  The bank isn't literally holding a stack of cash for you.  In fact, as soon as you give it your money, it's probably handing it out to someone else.
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All that brings me around to the question of Bitcoin.  In various techie circles, there's been a fair amount of buzz about Bitcoin lately. Especially following efforts by other payment companies like <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101204/16050612129/paypal-latest-to-cut-off-wikileaks.shtml">Paypal</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101207/00300612152/freedom-expression-is-priceless-everything-else-theres-mastercard.shtml">Mastercard</a> to cut off contributions to Wikileaks, there's been a lot more interest in figuring out what infrastructure pieces in today's world <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101215/02391012281/how-wikileaks-operation-payback-have-exposed-infrastructure-that-should-be-decentralized-isnt.shtml">should be more decentralized</a>, and an obvious target is "money."
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And that's where many point to Bitcoin.  Jerry Brito has a <a href="http://techland.time.com/2011/04/16/online-cash-bitcoin-could-challenge-governments/" target="_blank">nice writeup on Bitcoin</a> about how it's a decentralized digital currency that is growing in popularity, and, in theory can resist attacks and problems of previous attempts at various digital currencies, while providing significant anonymity.  Tim Lee quickly responded with skepticism about whether or not Bitcoin can really work, looking both at the <a href="http://timothyblee.com/2011/04/18/the-bitcoin-bubble/" target="_blank">demand side</a> of the question and <a href="http://timothyblee.com/2011/04/19/bitcoins-collusion-problem/" target="_blank">the supply side</a>.  I'm not sure Lee's <i>specific</i> arguments are entirely accurate, but I think his <i>general</i> arguments may be.  
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This doesn't mean Bitcoin (or something like it) can't be successful.  It's just that it has an uphill battle.  I think it's already useful in certain areas, but that's a big step away from getting to where it really needs to be to succeed in the long run -- and those steps can be much bigger than most people imagine.  However, I could certainly envision scenarios that lead to rapid Bitcoin (or similar offering) adoption.  I just wonder how sustainable it would really be vs. how much would just be a fad.  In the end, I have to admit that I'm torn on this one.  While I appreciate the concept of Bitcoin, and think that it might be nice if something like it was really popular, I do wonder if it really has the legs to reach such a level of success.  One thing I do know for sure, however: I'd certainly like to hear the folks at Planet Money examine Bitcoin and how it plays into their sporadic explorations of money itself.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110420/02412713972/can-bitcoin-really-succeed-long-term.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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