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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:01:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How Copyright Has Driven Online Streaming Innovators Insane</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A little over four years ago, we wrote about the Second Circuit appeals court's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1218551884.shtml">ruling</a> in the case over the legality of Cablevision's remote DVR.  As we said at the time, the court came to the right result -- the remote DVR was perfectly legal -- but had to twist itself into all sorts of crazy contortions to make that argument fit within the confines of copyright law.  That's because of the nature of copyright law itself, which is almost always <i>reactive</i> to technological changes and, because of that, always gets twisted up when important, useful and disruptive innovations come along.  As we noted four years ago, copyright law "is simply not set up" to handle something like a remote DVR.  Even though a home DVR is clearly legal, and the only real difference between one at home and one in the cloud is the length of the cord between the DVR and the TV, the legal arguments to make them both legal are quite twisted.
<br /><br />
Since then, we've seen a whole bunch of startups try to offer variations of streaming video online -- often relying on that quite twisted ruling in Cablevision.  Each time we write about them -- companies like <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/11173011095/company-claims-legal-right-to-stream-broadcast-tv-online-broadcasters-disagree.shtml">ivi</a>, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">Zediva</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120302/00190517940/tv-networks-gang-up-to-sue-aereo-do-copyright-rules-change-based-length-cable.shtml">Aereo</a> -- we tend to note that all of them are doing incredibly inefficient and convoluted things on the back-end to try to stay within the confines of the law, as established by the Cablevision ruling.  But to any objective observer considering what makes the most sense for a company and its users, all of the Rube Goldbergian designs of these companies seem entirely pointless.  The goal is the same: to reasonably offer streaming services that match what people can do at home with a DVR or a DVD player -- but it has to be twisted to make that work within the whacked out language of the law.
<br /><br />
And that's because the law is never written with innovation in mind.  Quite the opposite.  The history of copyright law is that every time something new comes along, Congress duct tapes on some new "right" to make it work.  The 1909 Copyright Act was driven by the scary, scary invention of the player piano, which was going to wipe out the sheet music business or something.  But the internet mucks with all of that -- in part by bringing together different roles that had previously been separate.  The end result is that different aspects of copyright law may or may not apply, depending on where you sit.
<br /><br />
Law professor James Grimmelmann has picked up on this and written an absolutely brilliant piece over at Ars Technica, where he dives into the nitty gritty details of all of this to explain <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/why-johnny-cant-stream-how-video-copyright-went-insane/" target="_blank">how copyright law for streaming went insane</a>.  Here's the opening:
<blockquote><i>
Suppose I could offer you a choice of two technologies for watching TV online. Behind Door Number One sits a free-to-watch service that uses off-the-shelf technology and that buffers just enough of each show to put the live stream on the Internet. Behind Door Number Two lies a subscription service that requires custom-designed hardware and makes dozens of copies of each show. Which sounds easier to build&#8212;and to use? More importantly, which is more likely to be legal?
<br /><br />
If you went with Door Number One, then you are a sane person, untainted by the depravity of modern copyright law. But you are also wrong. The company behind Door Number One, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICraveTV">iCraveTV</a>, was <a href="http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/program/law/08-732/Jurisdiction/icravetvinjunction.pdf">enjoined out of existence</a> a decade ago. The company behind Door Number Two, <a href="https://aereo.com/home">Aereo</a>, just survived its <a href="https://www.eff.org/sites/default/files/filenode/Denial%20of%20PI.pdf">first round in court</a> and is still going strong.
</i></blockquote>
The whole piece is totally worth reading.  But it keeps going back to the same thing.  Thanks to a combination of ridiculously antiquated copyright law and the 2nd Circuit's right result-but-for-odd-reasons ruling in the Cablevision case, we have a ridiculous setup where no one ever seems to take into account just what's happening for the end user, but rather focuses on the back-end to either jump through silly hoops (if you believe these services are legal) or to find questionable loopholes (if you're a copyright maximalist) to try to show that your service is legal.  The end result is not only very bizarre, convoluted and inefficient systems that make no sense, and which no sane person would <i>choose</i> to set up as a business, but also one where we just see an ongoing stream of wasteful legal battles.
<br /><br />
In talking about Zediva -- the company that set up individual DVD players in a data center which could stream only a single copy of an actual DVD playing at a time to a single user -- Grimmelmann again notes that none of this makes any sense:
<blockquote><i>
And once again, it's a business model that would not exist in a world with copyright policy that was not demonstrably insane. Rapidly spinning optical discs make sense as a distribution technology because they're compact and durable. But they're a hassle and a half for playback, because they scratch, skip, and make random access a pain. If you're going to use the Internet for distribution, better to take the DVDs out of the picture and use them as coasters. But since Cablevision had opened up what seemed like a gap in copyright law, Zediva poured shiny lacquered discs into the breach.
</i></blockquote>
Is there a way out of this that doesn't necessarily require a total dismantling of copyright law?  Grimmelmann suggests that the more common sense (i.e., not insane) approach would be to actually look at <i>what the end-user experience is</i>:
<blockquote><i>
Perhaps we can think about the problem of copyright on the Internet another way. Instead of asking which back-end technologies are legal, it might make more sense to ask what it is legal for users to do with computers on the front end. This approach would let people spend less time worrying about the exact definitions of "reproduction" and "performance" and more time thinking about users' rights, especially under fair use.
<br /><br />
Cablevision itself illustrates what might have been. The whole point of the RS-DVR was that it was a perfect substitute for a home DVR. Reasoning by analogy, then, we might say that the two ought to either both be legal or both be illegal. And since home DVRs seem here to stay, it ought to be permissible for Cablevision to offer its customers exactly the same service they could have gotten by buying a gizmo. Call it "noninfringing personal fair use" and we can all go home.
</i></blockquote>
Unfortunately, he notes that such a result wasn't possible in the Cablevision case, because <i>Cablevision itself chose not to litigate the fair use issue</i> in its case.  End result?  More insanity.
<br /><br />
Of course, even Grimmelmann's solution potentially leads to some other issues, as well.  For example, we've long argued that an embedded video on a website isn't infringing because it's no different than a link -- and that if there's infringement, it's from the uploader or hosting provider, rather than the intermediary who posted the embed code.  But under Grimmelmann's "end user" analysis, then anyone who embeds could be liable as well, as to the end user, it wouldn't appear any different than a site that hosted the content.  That raises some difficult questions as well.
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But there's a reason for that: because these laws were designed for a very different era and very different technology.  The concept of an open internet, and even something like an "embed code" is completely foreign to copyright law, meaning that it's legality is very much in the eye of the beholder.  And really, that just serves to highlight the real problem here: copyright law isn't built for modern technology, and that's creating all sorts of problems for innovative services.
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Either way, Grimmelmann's whole article is absolutely worth reading, so go <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/why-johnny-cant-stream-how-video-copyright-went-insane/" target="_blank">check it out</a>, even if it may make you bang your head repeatedly at the pure insanity of the situation we're in today.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120830/13260820222/how-copyright-has-driven-online-streaming-innovators-insane.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120830/13260820222/how-copyright-has-driven-online-streaming-innovators-insane.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120830/13260820222/how-copyright-has-driven-online-streaming-innovators-insane.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Aereo Wins Round One Against Broadcasters; Judge Rejects Injunction &amp; Allows Service To Live</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been covering the ridiculous <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=aereo">legal fight</a> over Aereo for a few months now.  If you don't remember, Aereo is a company that offers -- for a fee -- to let people watch over-the-air broadcast TV (not cable, so just the small number of broadcast stations) online.  Basically, what they do is set up antennas in a building in Brooklyn -- with one antenna per customer -- and then connect that antenna to the internet so the person can watch.  The TV broadcasters flipped out <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120302/00190517940/tv-networks-gang-up-to-sue-aereo-do-copyright-rules-change-based-length-cable.shtml">and sued</a>. 
<br /><br />
As we've noted, in essence, this is another lawsuit that asks the question: do the copyright rules change depending on the length of your cable.  That is, we know that it's legal to put up an antenna yourself and watch what you get.  That's how broadcast TV works.  We also know that it's almost certainly legal (it hasn't directly been tested) to take the legal TV you are accessing and then place-shift it so you can watch it over the internet (like with a Slingbox).  So, if you combine those two things, why would it suddenly be illegal?  The only real difference is that the antenna and the place shifting device sit in Aereo's building rather than in your own home.  So, it's just that the "cable" length between the users and the devices is longer.  Why should the length of the cable determine whether something is infringing or not?  In a few related legal cases, the rulings have been mixed.
<br /><br />
There was the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110222/11395313211/court-not-impressed-with-ivis-legal-loopholes-shoots-online-tv-broadcaster-down.shtml">ivi</a> case, where the company offered a very similar service, but went with a different legal theory (relying on compulsory licensing rules)... which has so far been shot down in court.  Then there was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">the Zediva</a> case which relied on a very similar theory, but with DVDs (i.e., the company had a separate DVD player for each customer and let you watch movies streamed from that individual player).  In that case, the court issued <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml">an injunction</a> and the company shut down.  Finally, there's the  <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090520/0255534947.shtml">Cablevision ruling</a> in which the TV guys went after Cablevision for offering a remote DVR feature.  In a somewhat convoluted, but important, ruling, it was found that a remote DVR could be legal and non-infringing.
<br /><br />
While the networks seriously argued that anything that caused anyone to think about cancelling their cable subscriptions could be <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120531/10124119152/tv-network-exec-argues-that-anything-that-causes-cable-subscribers-to-cut-cord-is-illegal.shtml">illegal</a>, the judge in the Aereo case, Alison Nathan, has <b>refused to grant a preliminary injunction</b> (basically doing the opposite of what happened in the Zediva ruling).  Zediva was in a different court (and only reached the district court level anyway) so that ruling had little direct influence here.  The Cablevision ruling, however, was pretty clearly instrumental in saving Aereo from being shut down.
<br /><br />
Much of the ruling focused on what seems like a relatively tangential question: whether Aereo is really creating an individual antenna for each customer, or if it's just building a giant single antenna.  More or less, it's a question of whether or not each individual antenna works with the others to better capture the signal.  This is also known as a totally stupid debate.  I mean, if you were to step back and just look at this from a <i>common sense</i> standpoint, you'd say the fact that Aereo has to set up a different antenna for each customer is pretty stupid.  There's no technical reason to do so, only a legal one.  It is an expense that serves only to satisfy a legal demand, which is by definition an inefficiency introduced into the market for no reason other than to keep lawyers happy.
<br /><br />
But, here, the judge ruled that the individual antenna theory applies, and thanks almost entirely to the Cablevision ruling, there's no reason to issue a preliminary injunction.  The networks tried some bizarre theories about why Cablevision didn't apply, but the judge saw through all of the attempts at misdirection:
<blockquote><i>
Despite this creative attempt to escape from the express holding of Cablevision, for the
reasons discussed below this Court finds itself constrained to reject the approach Plaintiffs urge.
Contrary to Plaintiffs' arguments, the copies Aereo's system creates are not materially
distinguishable from those in Cablevision, which found that the transmission was made from
those copies rather than from the incoming signal. Moreover, Plaintiffs' attempt to distinguish
Cablevision based on time-shifting fails when confronted with the reasoning of that case,
particularly considering that the Second Circuit's analysis was directly focused on the
significance of Cablevision' s copies but did not say one word to suggest that time-shifting played
any part in its holding.
</i></blockquote>
From there, the ruling goes into a wonderfully thorough debunking of the networks' attempt to ignore the ruling in Cablevision and a detailed explanation for why Aereo is quite similar to Cablevision.  In the end, the judge also bars the preliminary injunction due to the lack of irreparable harm if the service keeps going for the duration of the trial.  The court actually says that it can see how there is a clear case that the networks could suffer irreperable harm, in the form of losing viewers and advertisers -- but that since that "harm" is a longterm one, there's little reason to issue an injunction right now.  Separately, the court recognizes that an injunction would almost certainly be "irreparable harm" for Aereo, as it would effectively be a death sentence (as was the case with Zediva).   Either way, however, the level of detail the court uses in laying out why Aereo is so similar Cablevision does not bode well for the networks' overall case.
<br /><br />
This case is far from over, but in round one, the networks' key argument appears to have taken quite a beating.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120711/22343219668/aereo-wins-round-one-against-broadcasters-judge-rejects-injunction-allows-service-to-live.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120711/22343219668/aereo-wins-round-one-against-broadcasters-judge-rejects-injunction-allows-service-to-live.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120711/22343219668/aereo-wins-round-one-against-broadcasters-judge-rejects-injunction-allows-service-to-live.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>TV Networks Gang Up To Sue Aereo; Do Copyright Rules Change Based On The Length Of A Cable?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, this was no surprise.  As plenty of people <a href="http://paidcontent.org/article/419-why-the-diller-backed-aereo-will-need-some-fancy-lawyers/" target="_blank">predicted</a>, the Barry Diller-backed startup Aereo <a href="http://paidcontent.org/article/419-broadcasters-sue-to-stop-12-streaming-service-aereo/" target="_blank">has been sued by the TV networks</a> in two separate lawsuits (one from Fox, Univision and PBS -- when have Fox and PBS ever worked together on anything? -- and one from ABC).  If you haven't followed it, Aereo is a system to let people access broadcast over the air television (i.e., no cable/satellite channels -- just yours basics) via their computers, with some additional DVR-features.  The way it <i>works</i> (as we explained last year when Aereo went <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110531/02133314472/yet-another-company-rigs-up-silly-technical-setup-to-let-you-watch-broadcast-tv-your-mobile-device.shtml">by the name Bamboom</a>) is that Aereo, for a subscription fee, sets up an antenna just for you to capture the over-the-air signals, connects it to a DVR-like device that you can then log into over the internet.  Makes some amount of sense, though it's really yet another example of how kludgey companies have to be to provide what should be readily available already.
<br /><br />
The TV networks hate, hate, <i>hate</i> this because they've been raking in oodles of cash from carriage fees from the cable and satellite guys.  That's how much cable and satellite has to pay to "retransmit" the local broadcast channels, and it's become a <i>huge</i>, multi-billion dollar business that the TV guys have no interest in giving up in any way, shape or form.  It's the reason why you probably hear stories on a regular basis about some cable or satellite network will no longer carry a certain broadcast channel... leading to a lot of posturing and such before one side eventually backs down (often after a short blackout period).
<br /><br />
If this whole thing sounds familiar, that's because Aereo has a lot of similarities to a variety of other attempts to offer video online.  There are three key cases that Aereo clearly resembles in one form or another -- but since the rulings aren't entirely consistent (yay) who knows where things will end up.  I will say that, as with previous cases, this one <i>really</i> comes down to whether or not the length of a cable changes the copyright status of a piece of video content.  I find that, when you reduce it to that level, the whole legal question automatically becomes a preposterous one.  Tragically, however, courts seem to want to contort themselves into a variety of knots to stop things that they don't like.  Anyway, the similar stories:
<ul>
<li>First up, we've got <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/11173011095/company-claims-legal-right-to-stream-broadcast-tv-online-broadcasters-disagree.shtml">the ivi case</a>, which may seem like the most similar in terms of offerings, but may actually be the least similar in terms of legal issues.  ivi also offered (for a subscription fee) access to over the air broadcast channels via the internet.  However, the method and legal arguments were somewhat different.  ivi tried to mainly rely on <a href="http://www.copyright.gov/licensing/sec_111.html" target="_blank">Section 111</a> of Copyright law, which was what established a compulsory licensing system for cable systems to retransmit network television.  Thus, it tried to argue that it was the equivalent of a cable system, and could get by with the compulsory rates.  
<br /><br />
So far, it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110222/11395313211/court-not-impressed-with-ivis-legal-loopholes-shoots-online-tv-broadcaster-down.shtml">hasn't fared well</a> in court.  While the products are similar to the end consumer here, the method and legal arguments are pretty different.  For what it's worth, the lawsuit against Aereo was filed in the same court as the one against ivi.</li>
<br /><br />
<li>The second case is the Zediva case.  This one is actually much closer legally to Aereo, even if the products are somewhat different.  Zediva worked by having a bunch of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">network-enabled DVD players</a> in a data center.  If you wanted to "rent a movie" online, you could do so, and a physical DVD would be put into a physical DVD player and streamed to you online.  Zediva legally purchased the DVDs and argued that this was really no different than having a DVD player next to the TV.  It's just that the cable is much longer.  The similarities to Aereo are pretty obvious.  Both involve a separate physical device at a central location being assigned to an end-user, and then content streaming from that device.  
<br /><br />
Unfortunately for Aereo, Zediva has also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml">not fared well</a> in court -- a ruling that does not bode well at all for Aereo.  The most troubling part of the Zediva ruling was that watching a DVD in your own private home, even if it was solely being streamed to you direct from a DVD player that only you could access for the duration of the movie, was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml">considered a public performance</a>.  This seems like a pretty ridiculous reading of the law to some of us, but if the court in the Aereo case reads the law the same way, Aereo is sunk.  The only slight ray of hope here may be that the Zediva case was in the Central District of California, rather than the Southern District of NY where the Aereo case is (and the ivi case was as well).</li>
<br /><br />
<li>The other "ray of hope" comes from the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090520/0255534947.shtml">Cablevision ruling</a>, which noted that a hosted DVR device could be legal and non-infringing, though it involved a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1218551884.shtml">horribly convoluted</a> legal argument for the court to reach the conclusion it wanted, focusing on the legality of fleeting buffer copies.  This is a ruling that the industry would <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120203/02333517646/real-goal-regulating-buffer-copies-so-hollywood-can-put-tollbooth-innovation.shtml">love to kill off</a> if it could.  The good news here, beyond the nature of the ruling, is that this ruling came in the 2nd Circuit appeals court, which is precedent setting for the Southern District of NY where the Aereo case is taking place.  It's not a direct comparison, but this ruling <i>could</i> conceivably help in at least one key part of the case.</li>
</ul>
On the whole, I'd say that Aereo's chances of prevailing are pretty slim no matter what.  So far, it seems like the courts tend to use more of a "does this <i>feel</i> different enough to break the law" type of approach.. and then work out ways to make the ruling agree with that.  However, if they do prevail here, it will set up an interesting split with the Zediva ruling -- though, it won't be that meaningful, because Zediva more or less ran out of money and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml">gave up on its lawsuit</a> before it reached the appeals court level.
<br /><br />
However, as I've noted with all of these services, all they really seem to do is highlight how ridiculous copyright law is both in the contortions it forces companies to go through to try to stay within the letter of the law, and the equally ridiculous contortions that the courts then have to go through to move those lines to claim that these things are infringing in some manner.  I still really don't see <i>the point</i> of either ivi or Aereo, but I'm troubled that they're not even allowed to exist.  The thing is, if this content was just made available online in an easy, open and convenient manner -- as it is over the airwaves -- then there wouldn't be any issue here at all.  But it's not, and thus we get these companies that have to do all kinds of acrobatics to try to legally offer a service... only to see them get sued out of existence for daring to try to stay within the letter of the law, rather than just saying "to heck with it" and setting up a site offshore that provides unauthorized streams in the most efficient manner.
<br /><br />
<b>Fundamentally</b>, what this comes down to is the simple question of whether or not copyright law is different if the cord between your TV and the device that brings content to your TV is a matter of feet or a matter of miles.  It's clearly legal to watch and record over-the-air TV in your own home with your own antenna (or to watch a movie on a DVD player).  The only real difference here is that, rather than a cable running a few short feet from your TV to an antenna or a DVD player next to it, the TV is hooked up to the internet, and the "cable" in question is miles long to a data center... where it connects to a nearly identical antenna or DVD player.  To me, it makes no sense at all to say that those two scenarios have different legal outcomes.  And, indeed, that appears to be <a href="http://blog.aereo.com/2012/03/our-response/" target="_blank">the argument that Aereo is making</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Aereo does not believe that the broadcasters&#8217; position has any merit and it very much looks forward to a full and fair airing of the issues.
<br /><br />
<b>Consumers are legally entitled to access broadcast television via an antenna and they are entitled to record television content for their personal use. </b>  Innovations in technology over time, from digital signals to Digital Video Recorders (&#8220;DVRs&#8221;), have made access to television easier and better for consumers.   Aereo provides technology that enables consumers to use their cloud DVR and their remote antenna to record and watch the broadcast television signal to which they are entitled anywhere they are, whether on a phone, a tablet, a television or a laptop.
</i></blockquote>
Now they just have to convince a court of that.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120302/00190517940/tv-networks-gang-up-to-sue-aereo-do-copyright-rules-change-based-length-cable.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120302/00190517940/tv-networks-gang-up-to-sue-aereo-do-copyright-rules-change-based-length-cable.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120302/00190517940/tv-networks-gang-up-to-sue-aereo-do-copyright-rules-change-based-length-cable.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:44:51 PDT</pubDate>
<title>MPAA Kills More Innovation; Zediva Shut Down Permanently</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Keith alerts us to the <a href="http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/10/28/that_was_fast_mpaa_gets_zediva_shut_down_for_good" target="_blank">unfortunate and premature death of Zediva</a>, an innovative startup that sought to make it easier for people to rent movies and make money for Hollywood.  But in true Hollywood fashion, they killed it -- just like they wanted to kill the VCR a couple decades ago.  Zediva, if you don't recall, let people rent movies remotely.  It would load them up in a DVD player that you could log into.  It legitimately bought the DVDs and used them just as you would at home if you rented a DVD and brought it home.  The only real difference here was that the DVD player was at a central location, rather than your home.   In a very weird ruling, a court determined that the length of the cord <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml">determines if something is infringing</a>.
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Such a totally nonsensical ruling should be ripe for appeal... but appeals cost money, and who's going to invest in a company shut down by a court?  So, Zediva has capitulated and "settled."  MPAA gets to hang another destroyed innovation on its mantle.
<br /><br />
If you want to get a sense of the future under E-PARASITE/SOPA: this is it.  Except it's even worse.  Chris Dodd and the MPAA won't even need to go to court, they can just send a single notice to the payment processor for Zediva, and the plug would be pulled.  Dead.  Basically, the law would let the luddites at the MPAA simply kill off any new service they don't like or don't understand.  And unless those companies have a dozen lawyers at their disposal, they're going to stay dead.  Just like Zediva.  Another bit of innovation killed by the MPAA.  What a legacy the MPAA is leaving behind.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111031/04020316568/mpaa-kills-more-innovation-zediva-shut-down-permanently.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:41:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>MPAA So Thrilled With Zediva Ruling, It Offers To Help The Court Spread It</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about the decision by a district court judge that suggests if you have a very long cable, instead of a short cable, you <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml">may be committing copyright infringement</a>.  The exact length of the cable is not specified.  This is, of course, ridiculous, but it's the only way to read the judge's ruling in the Zediva case that makes sense.  Basically, if you have your DVD player at home, you're okay.  But if your DVD player is in Zediva's data center, and you connect to it via the long cable of the internet, Zediva is infringing.  I can't see how this makes any sense, but that's why they don't let me be a judge.
<br /><br />
Either way, it's not very surprising that <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/zediva-appeal-hollywood-injunction-ninth-230749" target="_blank">Zediva is appealing the ruling</a> to the Ninth Circuit appeals court, which is somewhat famous for its inconsistent and, at times, contradictory approach to jurisprudence.  In other words, who knows what will come out of the appeals court.  It's tough to predict.
<br /><br />
But, in the meantime, the MPAA apparently wants to get as much mileage as possible about the original ruling by Judge John F. Walter.  It appears they're so in love with the ruling that they're sending love letters to the court about how more people should see the ruling, and how they're even willing to help out with the promotion:
<blockquote><i>
On Thursday, attorneys for the movie studio asked Judge Walter to consider publishing his injunction order in the Federal Register so that other judges around the nation currently overseeing Internet copyright cases would have the benefit of seeing what they believe to be an astute analysis of the "transmit" clause in the Copyright Act and what it means for Internet streaming transmissions to be "to the public" under the clause. The plaintiffs also say they would be more than happy to submit the judge's opinion on his behalf to the Westlaw database. 
</i></blockquote>
In other words, this ruling is so ridiculous and so one-sided, that the MPAA hopes to get it ingrained among judges everywhere as quickly as possible, knowing full well that a higher court might knock them back to reality, and point out that judging whether or not something is infringing by the length of the cable between the DVD player and the TV is simply ridiculous.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/17053915799/mpaa-so-thrilled-with-zediva-ruling-it-offers-to-help-court-spread-it.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/17053915799/mpaa-so-thrilled-with-zediva-ruling-it-offers-to-help-court-spread-it.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/17053915799/mpaa-so-thrilled-with-zediva-ruling-it-offers-to-help-court-spread-it.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>1984 Case Shows Abuse Of Phrase 'Public Performance' Has A Long, Ugly History</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As Zediva faces an injunction for using an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml" target="_blank">extra-long "cord,"</a> it has become clear that the various entities surrounding certain intellectual property are more than willing to beat the words "public performance" into any imaginable shape in order to add a few more dollars to their bottom line.
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In the Zediva case, "public performance" was half-nelsoned into this nonsensical phrase: "<i>The non-public nature of the place of the performance has no bearing on whether or not those who enjoy the performance constitute 'the public' under the transmit clause</i>." Anytime individuals performing certain actions start getting referred to as "the public," you know someone's just trying to collect yet another licensing fee.
<br /><br />
This abuse of the phrase "public performance" goes way, way back. In 1984, a<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/749_F2d_154.htm" target="_blank"> video rental business named Maxwell's found itself on the receiving end of a lawsuit from Columbia Pictures</a>. The "offending" idea was simple: set up private viewing booths for rented movies. This was back before everyone and their grandmother had a VCR or two laying around the house, casually eating rented tapes while flashing a blank, who-me? look of "12:00." Since VCRs had yet to hit true affordability (<a href="http://mattandtimfunny.blogspot.com/2010/08/vcrs-cost-how-much.html" target="_blank">Sears had one listed at $458.95</a>) and not everyone could afford the rental fees for the store's machines, Maxwell's decided to help customers out by allowing them to watch movies in private booths on their premises. (The following legal description is taken from the above-linked filing): 
<blockquote><i>[6] Each store contains a small showroom area in the front of the store, and a "showcase" or exhibition area in the rear. The front showroom contains video equipment and materials for sale or rent, as well as dispensing machines for popcorn and carbonated beverages. Movie posters are also displayed in this front area. In the rear "showcase" area, patrons may view any of an assortment of video cassettes in small, private booths with space for two to four people. There are a total of eighty-five booths in the two stores. Each booth or room is approximately four feet by six feet and is carpeted on the floor and walls. In the front there is a nineteen inch color television and an upholstered bench in the back.
<br /><br />
[7] The procedure followed by a patron wishing to utilize one of the viewing booths or rooms is the same at both facilities. The customer selects a film from a catalogue which contains the titles of available films. The fee charged by Maxwell's depends on the number of people in the viewing room, and the time of day. The price is $5.00 for one or two people before 6 p.m., and $6.00 for two people after 6 p.m. There is at all times a $1.00 surcharge for the third and fourth person. The fee also entitles patrons to help themselves to popcorn and soft drinks before entering their assigned rooms. Closing the door of the viewing room activates a signal in the counter area at the front of the store. An employee of Maxwell's then places the cassette of the motion picture chosen by the viewer into one of the video cassette machines in the front of the store and the picture is transmitted to the patron's viewing room. The viewer may adjust the light in the room, as well as the volume, brightness, and color levels on the television set.
<br /><br />
[8] Access to each room is limited to the individuals who rent it as a group. Although no restriction is placed on the composition of a group, strangers are not grouped in order to fill a particular room to capacity. Maxwell's is open to any member of the public who wishes to utilize its facilities or services.</i>
</blockquote> Seems simple enough: patrons pay the rental fee plus an added cost per head to enjoy watching movies they wouldn't have been able to otherwise. Of course, if this is a useful and innovative service that involves intellectual property, it needs to be shut down.<br /><br />While the court found that Maxwell's was covered in every other instance of possible copyright infringement, it still had an issue with the "public performance." Great pains are taken in these rulings to determine that "the public" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being "in public" and that, in fact, each individual is a "member of the public" and therefore, individuals watching or listening to movies or music are enjoying a "public performance."
<blockquote>
<i>"a performance made available by transmission to the public at large is `public' even though the recipients are not gathered in a single place. . . . The same principles apply whenever the potential recipients of the transmission represent a limited segment of the public, such as the occupants of hotel rooms . . . ." House Report, supra, at 64-65, U.S.Code Cong. &#038; Admin.News, p. 5678. Thus, the transmission of a performance to members of the public, even in private settings such as hotel rooms or Maxwell's viewing rooms, constitutes a public performance. As the statutory language and legislative history clearly indicate, the fact that members of the public view the performance at different times does not alter this legal consequence.</i>
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So, there's no way around it. Anytime an individual enjoys intellectual property that someone else paid for (first-purchase), they need to pay a "public performance" fee. This has nothing to do with protecting intellectual property and everything to do with maximizing the amount of times a rights collection group can get paid for <i>the same product</i>.
<br /><br />
The court then goes on to point out that the "right of the first sale" can be tossed out because the tapes never left the store:
<blockquote>
<i>In essence, the defendants' "first sale" argument is merely another aspect of their argument that their activities are not public performances. For the defendants' argument to succeed, we would have to adopt their characterization of the "showcasing" transaction or activity as an "in-store rental." The facts do not permit such a finding or conclusion. The record clearly demonstrates that showcasing a video cassette at Maxwell's is a significantly different transaction than leasing a tape for home use. Maxwell's never disposed of the tapes in its showcasing operations, nor did the tapes ever leave the store. At all times, Maxwell's maintained physical dominion and control over the tapes. Its employees actually played the cassettes on its machines. The charges or fees received for viewing the cassettes at Maxwell's facilities are analytically indistinguishable from admission fees paid by patrons to gain admission to any public theater. Plainly, in their showcasing operation, the appellants do not sell, rent, or otherwise dispose of the video cassette. On the facts presented, Maxwell's "showcasing" operation is a public performance, which, as a matter of law, constitutes a copyright infringement.</i>
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Now we're right back to an argument about the "length of the cord," only this time framed as "the length of the transit." In essence, because the videotapes were rented and watched in the same location, it is now an issue of copyright infringement. What would have happened if Maxwell's had rented the tapes in one store and allowed the playback in another store? If it had two connecting strip mall storefronts, the tapes would never have left the premises but it could be safely argued that they weren't being viewed at the same address. No doubt the court still would have found that this was a violation as well, despite any other twists like different addresses and business names. The fact that anyone even needs to consider these sorts of possible loopholes indicates how truly screwed up the "public performance" aspect of copyright actually is.
<br /><br />
Once the phrase "intellectual property" gets thrown into the mix, it seems all conventional wisdom goes right out the window. This was simply a matter of a business filling a need (video viewing for those without prohibitively expensive VCRs) and copyright was used yet again as a one-size-fits-all legal blunt force object, operated by an industry known for its greed and shortsightedness. This <i>Columbia Pictures vs. Maxwell's </i>case is being tossed around by pro-copyright writers as precedent in the Zediva case. Of course, adding up two wrong decisions doesn't actually make anyone right, it just makes it easier for the next innovative service to be shut down under ever-shifting determinations of what actually consitutes a "public performance."
<br /><br />
God forbid anyone enjoy art forms like movies and music "in public." It seems as if the guardians of intellectual property would like nothing better than for their "products," which are hyped extensively and which apparently need millions of purchases in order to recoup their "investments," to be enjoyed as solitary, lifeless experiences, preferably purchased at full retail by everyone at all times. And as for the commenters that infer constantly that the writers and readers of this site must "hate" artists because of our collective antipathy towards copyright... well, have you ever considered how much certain art-related industries must truly hate their customers? How many other businesses could achieve this sort of success while actively limiting the options available to the public? How many could honestly consider a single person (in the case of streaming music and videos) to be the "public" in the phrase "public performance?" The answer is zero. What we have today are soulless husks on the edge of extinction, wafting through the courtrooms and congressional offices of the US, propping themselves up on overreaching legislation and endless fees, constantly striving towards an endgame where everyone pays for everything every time they use it and that buying movies or music means never truly owning them.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/11260315434/1984-case-shows-abuse-phrase-public-performance-has-long-ugly-history.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/11260315434/1984-case-shows-abuse-phrase-public-performance-has-long-ugly-history.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/11260315434/1984-case-shows-abuse-phrase-public-performance-has-long-ugly-history.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:09:23 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Shuts Down Zediva: Apparently The Length Of The Cable Determines If Something Is Infringing</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few months ago we wrote about the new online movie rental site, Zediva, noting how it demonstrated some of the ridiculous nature of copyright.  That's because Zediva worked by setting up a single DVD player with the DVD of the movie the user wanted to rent being put into that player, and then streamed from that player.  In other words, their argument (based on the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1218551884.shtml">Cablevision ruling</a>), was that as long as they were doing the same basic thing that a customer was doing in their homes, but with the physical device in a central location, it should be legal.  To put it more simply, the fundamental question is whether or not the <i>length of the cable</i> matters in determining whether something is infringing or not.  If the cable is just a few feet from your DVD player to your TV, that's legal.  But if the cable is much longer, as the DVD player lives in a data center, would it suddenly no longer be legal?  The Cablevision ruling said no.
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However, the MPAA <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/15513413774/as-expected-mpaa-sues-movie-streaming-site-that-uses-connected-dvd-players.shtml">quickly sued</a> and a judge wasted little time in <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20086666-261/federal-court-to-order-film-service-zediva-shut-down/?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20&#038;dlvrit=142337" target="_blank">agreeing to issue an injunction shutting down Zediva as infringing</a>.
<br /><br />
The whole setup of Zediva should show you how silly modern copyright law is.  It's technically relatively easy to distribute movies online, but Zediva had to set up this convoluted and ridiculous process of reserving DVD players and DVDs for each customer in a (so far, failed) attempt to stay within the law.  But the end result goes even further in showing how ridiculous copyright law is.  Basically, the judge admits that <i>the length of the wire defines copyright</i>.  That's insane when you think about it.  If the wire between my DVD player and my TV is 10 feet... legal.  If it's miles... infringement.  How can people respect a law that leads to such results?
<br /><br />
The judge's reasoning strikes me as equally twisted.  For example, it claims that Zediva violates the "public performance" right under copyright law.  Not surprisingly, the judge relies on the (similarly terribly decided) <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=on+command+vs.+columbia&#038;hl=en&#038;as_sdt=2,5&#038;case=6496522323472709052&#038;scilh=0" target="_blank">On Command Video Corp. v. Columbia Pictures</a>, which ruled that a hotel similarly showing movies in rooms from a central system was "transmitting" the works, thus making them a public performance.  But this has a little itty bitty problem: the "transmission" is over a wire, and under that definition, you're also transmitting if you play a DVD player in your own home.  It's the <i>same physical thing</i> other than the length of the wire.
<br /><br />
Now how the hell is viewing a DVD in the privacy of your own home a "<b>public</b> performance?"  Again, the court's reasoning is twisted.  You'll love this:
<blockquote><i>
Customers watching one of Plaintiffs&rsquo; Copyrighted Works on their computer through
Zediva&rsquo;s system are not necessarily watching it in a &ldquo;public place,&rdquo; but those customers are nonetheless members of &ldquo;the public.&rdquo; .... The non-public nature of the
place of the performance has no bearing on whether or not those who enjoy the performance
constitute &ldquo;the public&rdquo; under the transmit clause.
</i></blockquote>
Yes, you read that right.  Again, how can you take copyright law seriously when it's interpreted that way?  Under that definition, pretty much <i>anything</i> is a public performance.
<br /><br />
The court also brushes off the Cablevision decision in a footnote, claiming that that case was different because each person viewed a single digital copy, whereas in this case... since it's a DVD, it's now being transmitted to the public.  I honestly read this section four times, and I have no idea how that distinction matters.  At all.  Even they seem to quote the Cablevision case, saying that they don't understand why there's a difference here, but there is.
<blockquote><i>
Under the facts of that case, the Second Circuit found that the transmissions were
not &ldquo;to the public&rdquo; because &ldquo;each RS-DVR playback transmission is made to a single subscriber
using a single unique copy produced by that subscriber.&rdquo; Id. at 138. (&ldquo;Given that each RS-DVR transmission is made to a given subscriber using a copy made by that subscriber, we conclude that
such a transmission is not &lsquo;to the public.&rsquo;&rdquo;). In this case, unlike Cablevision, Defendants&rsquo;
customers do not produce their own unique copy of Plaintiffs&rsquo; Copyrighted Works. Instead, like On
Command and Red Horne, the same DVD is used over and over again to transmit performances of
Plaintiffs&rsquo; Copyrighted Works. As the Second Circuit held in Cablevision, while &ldquo;neither the Red
Horne court nor Prof. Nimmer explicitly explains why the use of a distinct copy affects the transmit
clause inquiry,&rdquo; its &ldquo;independent analysis confirms the soundness of their intuition: the use of a
unique copy may limit the potential audience of a transmission and is therefore relevant to whether
that transmission is made &lsquo;to the public.&rsquo;&rdquo;
</i></blockquote>
But it seems to me that this pushes the weight in <i>favor</i> of Zediva, since it's only using a "single copy" as well -- a single copy of the DVD.  That would suggest an even stronger argument that the transmission is not to the public -- only one subscriber can view each copy at one time at their single location.  How can you twist that into claiming it's a "public performance"?
<br /><br />
Honestly, the real issue here is the very nature of copyright law itself, which is patched up with duct tape each time some new technology hits the market.  The internet has merged together a variety of these technologies into one, so different parts of the law are clashing, and out of it we're getting ridiculous decisions like this, which only serve to show how broken copyright law is.  When the real result of a lawsuit depends entirely on the length of a cable, the law is fundamentally broken.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110802/02374615353/court-shuts-down-zediva-apparently-length-cable-determines-if-something-is-infringing.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Yet Another Company Rigs Up A Silly Technical Setup To Let You Watch Broadcast TV On Your Mobile Device</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ And here we go again.  Peter Kafka has the details of a new company, called Bamboom, which will let people <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110529/heres-how-you-might-be-able-to-watch-live-tv-for-free-on-your-ipad/" target="_blank">stream broadcast TV to their iPads</a>, and which must be waiting for the inevitable lawsuit.  The idea appears to be a mix of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/11173011095/company-claims-legal-right-to-stream-broadcast-tv-online-broadcasters-disagree.shtml">ivi</a> and <a hef="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">Zediva</a>.  
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If you remember, ivi is the company that wants to stream broadcast television, and is claiming it's legal based on a questionable interpretation of current copyright laws -- an interpretation that (so far) the courts <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110222/11395313211/court-not-impressed-with-ivis-legal-loopholes-shoots-online-tv-broadcaster-down.shtml">aren't buying</a>.  Zediva, on the other hand, is offering streaming DVDs by literally placing DVDs in DVD players and streaming <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">just that one copy</a> to users, relying on the Second Circuit court's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110311/01523313456/did-japan-korea-just-make-life-really-difficult-any-cloud-service-provider.shtml">ruling</a> in the <i>Cablevision</i> case to suggest that if you can do something legally in your living room, it should also be legal to be done at a hosting center.  In other words, it's arguing that the length of the cord shouldn't matter.  If a DVD player is in your home or in a data center a few miles away, does it matter if the process (put DVD in player, watch on screen) is the same?  The MPAA <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/15513413774/as-expected-mpaa-sues-movie-streaming-site-that-uses-connected-dvd-players.shtml">has sued</a> and Zediva is currently fighting that lawsuit (with some impressive legal horsepower).
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Bamboom basically appears to be using both of these arguments.  It's streaming broadcast TV only, and is also assigning a single antenna to each user who is streaming.
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The company is still going to get sued, of course.  The TV companies wouldn't have it any other way.  But, really, all it demonstrates is how ridiculous the laws are here.  This company has to set up a ridiculously convoluted technical system that is not at all efficient and is downright wasteful, just to provide a simple service that is technically easy to provide if legal complications didn't get in the way.  I don't think the service is particularly useful (do people still watch broadcast TV?), but that doesn't mean it should be illegal.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110531/02133314472/yet-another-company-rigs-up-silly-technical-setup-to-let-you-watch-broadcast-tv-your-mobile-device.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110531/02133314472/yet-another-company-rigs-up-silly-technical-setup-to-let-you-watch-broadcast-tv-your-mobile-device.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110531/02133314472/yet-another-company-rigs-up-silly-technical-setup-to-let-you-watch-broadcast-tv-your-mobile-device.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>As Expected, MPAA Sues Movie Streaming Site That Uses Connected DVD Players</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ When Zediva launched, we already <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">knew</a> it was going to face a legal fight from the MPAA and the movie studios.  The company lets people stream movies they want to see, but tries to get around the legal licensing issues by only streaming directly from internet connected DVD players, playing legitimately acquired DVDs.  Their argument is that it's really no different than renting a movie and bringing it to your own DVD player.  And, perhaps, the Cablevision ruling in the US on remote DVRs gives them some support for their position.  But, there was no way the industry was going to just let this go by without any sort of fight.  And, so, the MPAA <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/153747-movie-studios-sue-streaming-video-site?utm_campaign=HilliconValley&#038;utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">has now sued the company</a> claiming that it's a "sham," and that Zediva is running an illegal video-on-demand service without the proper licenses.  In some ways, this case could also impact the attempts by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/00544013762/will-amazon-cave-get-licenses-its-streaming-player.shtml">cloud music players</a> to stream legitimate content without a license as well.
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All of these situations -- the remote DVR, the remote DVD and cloud music players -- all involve the entertainment industry demanding extra payments for how you use legitimately purchased content.  It's really quite amazing what a <i>stunning</i> sense of entitlement the entertainment industry has here.  Even if you've legitimately purchased their content, they want to limit what you can actually do with it unless you pay another licensing fee.  It's really quite ridiculous and shows the level of desperation these firms are reaching.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/15513413774/as-expected-mpaa-sues-movie-streaming-site-that-uses-connected-dvd-players.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/15513413774/as-expected-mpaa-sues-movie-streaming-site-that-uses-connected-dvd-players.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110404/15513413774/as-expected-mpaa-sues-movie-streaming-site-that-uses-connected-dvd-players.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:11:48 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If Remote DVRs Are Legal... What About Remote DVD Players?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Technology often demonstrates just how ridiculous our copyright laws are.  We were just discussing the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110311/01523313456/did-japan-korea-just-make-life-really-difficult-any-cloud-service-provider.shtml">legality</a> of remote DVRs, which have been found to be legal in the US and Singapore, but infringing in South Korea and Japan (<b>Update</b>: as pointed out in the comments, there are still <i>some</i> liability questions in the US, concerning whether or not a remote DVR provider could have secondary liability -- but I can't see how there would be secondary liability without direct infringement, and since time shifting for personal use is not infringement...).  Of course, if a remote DVR is legal... then what about a remote DVD player.  It seems like that should be legal as well.  As TorrentFreak points out, that's <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/brand-new-streaming-movie-service-is-brilliant-ridiculous-110317/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A TorrentfreakBits %28TorrentFreak - Bits%29" target="_blank">exactly what the streaming movie service Zediva is testing</a>.  The company lets you stream movies online -- including movies that the studios haven't licensed for streaming.  How?  Because it's literally renting the DVD you want, putting it in a networked DVD player, and letting you (and only you) stream the results.
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Of course, I imagine the studios will go ballistic (and legalistic) quickly on this one, but it's difficult to argue with the basic premise.  After all, if both time-shifting and place-shifting are legal, then what wrong is being done here?  Why should it require a separate streaming license?  No matter how you think about it, the situation demonstrates that today's copyright laws are confused.  After all, if it's perfectly legal for you to set up a DVD player in your own house, and then watch that remotely (e.g., via a Slingbox), why should it not be legal to have a company host the DVD player, and you just watch from home?  There's no good reason why the two should be treated differently.
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But, at the same time, Enigmax at TorrentFreak properly points out that from a technological perspective, this whole thing is <i>stupid</i>.  It's purposely downgrading what the technology allows:
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So while the system to get round the usual studio imposed release window nonsense is quite clever, it is also ridiculously old fashioned. It's 2011 and we&rsquo;re relying on physical DVDs and DVD players? Getting messages that someone else has rented the movie needed already?
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These problems were largely solved a decade ago and any torrent, streaming, or decent file-hosting site today can provide a better service than this in the blink of an eye.
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Except Hollywood won't let them, legally at least.
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In other words, if we can agree that the location of the DVD player is meaningless if you're watching the movie at home, can't we also agree that the physical medium on which the content is stored is meaningless?  Is it really that different if you're sitting in your house watching a <i>remote DVD</i> of the movie... or content streaming from a <i>remote hard drive</i>?  It seems to matter, deeply, to those in Hollywood, but from a technology standpoint, it seems completely nonsensical.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/03194613525/if-remote-dvrs-are-legal-what-about-remote-dvd-players.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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