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<pubDate>Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:39:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>House Of Representatives Bans Spotify Because P2P Tech Must Be Evil!!</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Hey look, here's a story on which we at Techdirt actually <i>agree</i> with the RIAA.  Shocking, I know.  It appears that, for reasons that are unclear to just about everyone, the IT folks in the House of Representatives <a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/house-blocks-spotify-not-singing-along-87008.html" target="_blank">have banned the use of the perfectly legal and authorized music service Spotify</a> because it's P2P technology.  According to a report at Politico:
<blockquote><i>
"To help protect House data, our IT policy generally prohibits the use of peer-to-peer (P2P) technologies while operating within the secure network," a spokesman for the Office of the Chief Administrative Officer told POLITICO this week. "While Spotify is currently not authorized, the CAO has and will continue to work with outside vendors to enable the popular services that improve member communication capabilities."
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Not surprisingly, this has led to complaints from Spotify, but also from the RIAA, which finds the <a href="http://www.politico.com/morningtech/0213/morningtech9948.html" target="_blank">whole thing preposterous</a>:
<blockquote><i>
RIAA CEO Cary Sherman wrote to the Hill Tuesday to explain why Spotify shouldn't violate the House's IT policy and to lend a hand in getting the decision reversed: "These services are safe and secure, and assuring access to them not only respects the contractual relationship users may have with these services, but also achieves an important public policy goal of promoting legal, safe digital providers," Sherman wrote.
</i></blockquote>
That's nice and all... though it's entirely possible the reason that there's a ban on P2P technology in the House is... due to the RIAA's own efforts in years past.  You may recall that, the RIAA, MPAA and other copyright maximalists have pushed for Congressional hearings on just how evil P2P technology is, and why there need to be more laws about it.  Ali Sternburg, at the DiscCo Project <a href="http://www.project-disco.org/intellectual-property/020113-lawful-music-service-spotify-blocked-in-the-house-under-p2p-regulations/" target="_blank">has the details</a>:
<blockquote><i>
It may be symptomatic of Congress being susceptible to lobbyists' generally oversimplifying and misunderstanding complex technology.  As EFF's Parker Higgins <a href="https://twitter.com/xor/status/297076594164506625" target="_blank">tweeted in response</a>: "The years of indiscriminately vilifying p2p technology are now coming back to haunt the content industry." In particular, the policy may be a consequence of three hearings on filesharing in the House from 2007 to 2009, which received testimony criticizing filesharing: "<a href="http://oversight-archive.waxman.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1424" target="_blank">Inadvertent File Sharing over Peer-to-Peer Networks</a>" on July 24, 2007, before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform; "<a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-111hhrg72885/html/CHRG-111hhrg72885.htm" target="_blank">H.R. 2221, the Data Accountability and Protection Act and H.R. 1319, the Informed P2P User Act</a>" on May 5, 2009, before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection; and "<a href="http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=2465&#038;Itemid=2" target="_blank">Inadvertent File Sharing over Peer-to-Peer Networks: How It Endangers Citizens and Jeopardizes National Security</a>" on July 29, 2009, before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.  This context suggests that maybe those hearings caused technophobic Congressmen to panic, leading to a regulation that is now mindlessly enforced as a part of House IT policy.
</i></blockquote>
She admits this is not definitely why it's banned, but it does seem notable.  Perhaps, next time, rather than vilifying broadly usable technology, the RIAA and others might recognize that it can actually be the solution to their challenges as well.  Nah... that'll never happen.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130201/13333221858/house-representatives-bans-spotify-because-p2p-tech-must-be-evil.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130201/13333221858/house-representatives-bans-spotify-because-p2p-tech-must-be-evil.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130201/13333221858/house-representatives-bans-spotify-because-p2p-tech-must-be-evil.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:02:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>More Research Again Shows: Good, Authorized Services Compete With Piracy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been arguing this for years, but the best and so far <i>only</i> way that's been shown to effectively deal with the "challenge" of piracy is to figure out ways to compete against it.  We've <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120810/02111919983/entrepreneurs-vcs-tell-white-house-to-focus-innovation-rather-than-ip-enforcement.shtml">highlighted</a> this point for quite some time, but people still try to argue against it.  However, the evidence keeps coming in.  We just posted about some data on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/12122520595/why-mpaa-cant-win-hearts-minds-public-file-sharing-is-mainstream.shtml">unauthorized file sharing in the US</a> and attitudes towards it.  Those showed that it was a mainstream activity, especially between friends and family.  Furthermore, it showed that "enforcement" campaigns targeted at trying to make people think that "piracy is theft" were almost certainly going to fail for not taking context into account.
<br /><br />
Instead, focusing on new and useful legitimate services has to be the way forward... and the data from that same Musicmetric study seems to confirm that.   It showed that there was a notable dip in BitTorrent usage <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/digital-and-mobile/bittorrent-share-shrinks-in-countries-that-1007966012.story" target="_blank">in countries that had good authorized offerings</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Musicmetric found that music file downloads using BitTorrent tend to increase in countries that don't have legal music streaming services such as Spotify. Among the top 10 countries with the fastest growing BitTorrent market share in the first half of 2012, only one, France, had Spotify.
<br /><br />
Conversely, in the top 10 countries where BitTorrent activity has decreased fastest, five have access to Spotify. 
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Of course, it also seems worth noting that the one country that has Spotify and shows increasing BitTorrent market share is France... which has Hadopi, one of the strictest "enforcement and education" plans out there.  I'm sure it's just a total coincidence...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/12260720596/more-research-again-shows-good-authorized-services-compete-with-piracy.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/12260720596/more-research-again-shows-good-authorized-services-compete-with-piracy.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/12260720596/more-research-again-shows-good-authorized-services-compete-with-piracy.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:33:30 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Indie Musician Zoe Keating Defines Transparency; Breaks Down Exactly How She Makes A Living</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We&#39;re used to hearing broad statements about the income of major labels, mostly about <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120217/15023417795/riaa-insists-that-really-music-industry-is-collapsing-reality-shows-its-just-riaa-thats-collapsing.shtml" target="_blank">how little it is</a>&nbsp;and why that needs to be "fixed." We&#39;ve also shown how any disclosure about income <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/03264014993/riaa-accounting-how-to-sell-1-million-albums-still-owe-500000.shtml" target="_blank">from the labels</a> is less than a one-way street (more of a cul-de-sac filled with vacant lots) when it comes to their own artists. When it comes to making a living by making music, it often seems that beyond very public <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120601/01173819160/amanda-palmer-raises-12-million-kickstarter-crowd-goes-wild.shtml">Kickstarter campaigns</a>, not many people actually know how much money is flowing to artists and from where.<br />
<br />
Zoe Keating, who&#39;s been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=zoe+keating">featured on Techdirt</a> before, mainly due to run-ins with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/18055718229/how-ascap-takes-money-successful-indie-artists-gives-it-to-giant-rock-stars.shtml" target="_blank">ASCAP and Universal</a>, has opted to go fully transparent. She&#39;s uploaded a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkasqHkVRM1OdEJFUnhyNFFkZjVSUWxhWGl1dE9lQXc#gid=6" target="_blank">Google Doc</a>, breaking down every source of income in detail. <a href="http://My financial picture would be worse if I was on a record label. Some people say that if I was on a record label, I'd have a larger reach and therefore would be making more money. To this I'd like to point out that I make instrumental cello music. There is about as much chance of my music becoming mainstream as there is of me being elected President of the USA (hint: not possible, I was born in Canada and there are naked pictures of me at Burning Man). While it is probably true that the right label could help with the reach part, I don't think they could help me enough to offset their cut, and you know what&#8230;.no label has ever approached me and the ones I've approached said no, so I'm guessing they think the same thing." target="_blank">Hypebot breaks down the breakdown</a>:&nbsp;<br />
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<i>Clearly, the best way to support Zoe (and other independent artists like her) is to purchases directly from the artist. Just by taking a look at the pie chart, it is evident that the vast majority (nearly 97%) of her recorded music revenue comes from fans purchasing her music as opposed to streaming it. Less than $300 came from Spotify, while more than $45,000 came from iTunes.</i></blockquote>
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<i>&ldquo;Music sales have been a consistent 60-70% of my total income,&rdquo; Zoe told Hypebot. &ldquo;The rest comes from concert fees and film/commercial licensing.&rdquo;</i></blockquote>
Perhaps an unsurprising number, it nonetheless is a great reminder of&nbsp;<i>why</i> connecting with your fans is so important. If you can make that connection, it makes selling infinite items that much easier. As is pointed out by Hypebot, Spotify accounted for only $300 of Keating&#39;s income. This could be construed as being precisely <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/16193319442/myth-dispensing-whole-spotify-barely-pays-artists-story-is-bunk.shtml" target="_blank">what&#39;s&nbsp;<i>wrong</i></a> with Spotify, but Keating&#39;s take on this low number doesn&#39;t reflect that:
<blockquote>
<i>&ldquo;The income of a non-mainstream artist like me is a patchwork quilt and streaming is currently one tiny square in that quilt,&rdquo; Zoe said in her <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkasqHkVRM1OdEJFUnhyNFFkZjVSUWxhWGl1dE9lQXc#gid=6" target="_blank">Google Doc</a>.&nbsp;</i></blockquote>
She also doesn&#39;t seem to be concerned, as others are, that Spotify and other streaming services will supplant tracks sales and reduce her income.&nbsp;
<blockquote>
<i>Streaming is not yet a replacement for digital sales, and to conflate the two is a mistake. I do not see streaming as a threat to my income, just like I&#39;ve never regarded file sharing as a threat but as a convenient way to hear music. If people really like my music, I still believe they&#39;ll support it somewhere, somehow.</i></blockquote>
This isn&#39;t to say she doesn&#39;t have any reservations about the streaming service. In her Google Doc notes, she points out that, at this point, she feels artists should view it more as "a discovery service rather than a source of income." This could change, though, if Spotify makes a few alterations. First of all, Keating would like to see it open its availability:
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<i>I&#39;ve said multiple times what my issue with Spotify is: fairness. I care about making the playing field level for all recording artists: signed or unsigned. Let it be a meritocracy.</i></blockquote>
At this point, Keating is still unable to get one of her albums ("Into the Trees") onto Spotify due to the lack of a digital distributor who won&#39;t take a cut of her iTunes sales. In order to get her music on Spotify, she has had to run her albums through an aggregator (CDBaby, TuneCore, etc.) in order to make them available. As it stands now, her latest solo album isn&#39;t generating any Spotify income.
<br /><br />
She also feels Spotify could turn itself into a better platform for musicians:
<blockquote>
<i>I wish Spotify would do more to facilitate the connection between listeners and artists - i.e. show that the artists is playing nearby, or add links to buy music. It&#39;s early days, so maybe this will happen eventually.</i></blockquote>
Away from the streaming front, Keating also addresses those who have suggested she leverage her success and sign with a major label to "extend her reach:"
<blockquote>
<i>My financial picture would be worse if I was on a record label. Some people say that if I was on a record label, I&#39;d have a larger reach and therefore would be making more money. To this I&#39;d like to point out that I make instrumental cello music. There is about as much chance of my music becoming mainstream as there is of me being elected President of the USA (hint: not possible, I was born in Canada and there are naked pictures of me at Burning Man). While it is probably true that the right label could help with the reach part, I don&#39;t think they could help me enough to offset their cut, and you know what&hellip;.no label has ever approached me and the ones I&#39;ve approached said no, so I&#39;m guessing they think the same thing.</i></blockquote>
There&#39;s sure to be more discussions springing from this data and her comments. Having turned herself into a "data point," Keating is now encouraging all artists to do the same. As she points out, if we&#39;re ever going to figure out where the music industry&#39;s <i>headed</i>, we need to collect as much information as possible from where it is <i>now</i>. Hopefully, Keating&#39;s transparency will result in many more "data points" offering up detailed pictures of how they&#39;re making money by making music.&nbsp;<br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:11:54 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Swedish Experiment: Spotify Helps Recording Industry Make Lots Of Money</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've mentioned before that Spotify shows how providing consumers what they want can really have a much stronger impact on "piracy" than any enforcement initiative.  Both Spotify and The Pirate Bay started in Sweden, and both got tremendous penetration in the Swedish market.  But as various studies have shown, infringement of music dropped drastically in Sweden as the service became more popular.  A new report looks at the Swedish recorded music market, and found that it's <a href="http://musically.com/2012/07/13/spotify-sweden-ifpi-figures/" target="_blank">up an astounding 30.1% in the first half of this year</a>, due almost entirely to Spotify.  Digital music now accounts for 63.5% of all music sales, and streaming services (mainly Spotify) represent 89% of all digital music sales. MusicAlly notes that streaming may be cannibalizing downloads, but the massive growth in streaming is more than outweighing the decrease in downloads.
<br /><br />
This even has the labels (who, yes, have an equity position in Spotify -- more on that in a bit) talking about how they're making more money than they have in a long, long time, thanks to Spotify:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;We&#8217;re back to the same revenue levels as during 2004, and if the development continues in the same way we&#8217;ll be back on turnover similar to those during the &#8220;golden days&#8221; of the CD in just a few years,&#8221; says Universal Music Sweden&#8217;s MD Per Sundin.
<br /><br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ve seen massive change in music consumption, where music fans are now listening to more music than ever, in an entirely legal environment. This means that revenues are increasing all the time, and artists get paid every time their music is played. Our artists get significant revenues from Spotify, which is our biggest income source for Sweden. A positive side effect is that we&#8217;re investing a lot in new talent.&#8221;
<br /><br />
Mark Dennis, CEO of Sony Music Sweden, makes the same point: &#8220;One of the most gratifying consequences of this is that it gives us the opportunity to sign more artists, and record more new Swedish music than ever. In fact, for most of our artists, streaming music now represents the majority of the revenue.&#8221;
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Now, I've learned to take any claims from the major labels with a grain of salt, and there are some clear issues with Spotify.  People have complained that the deals favor the majors so they get a larger cut than the indies.  That's definitely a problem.  Others insist that Spotify doesn't pay enough -- but multiple studies keep finding that, on a per listen basis, Spotify actually pays quite nicely.  There may still be significant issues with how the labels pass that money on to artists, however.
<br /><br />
The point of this isn't to say that "Spotify" is the answer.  There are, clearly, some questions about that particular service.  But it certainly shows that there <i>are</i> solutions that very effectively <i>compete with free</i>, and as they grow, they can certainly help make significant money for the copyright holders.  Spotify, of course, had a head start in Sweden, and the adoption rates there are incredible.  However, the point is pretty clear: let new services like Spotify grow and thrive and effectively compete with free, and they will do so -- and the business issues seem to pretty quickly sort themselves out.  Obviously having even more competition would be a good thing as well, as competitors will keep trying to offer something even better (and put pressure on Spotify to advance as well).
<br /><br />
In the end, though, Spotify is a classic case of giving the <i>public</i> what they want, rather than what the industry wants them to have.  And yet, in doing so, it's also now providing massive revenues for the industry -- even as people continue to insist that such a result is impossible.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120713/02212119682/swedish-experiment-spotify-helps-recording-industry-make-lots-money.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120713/02212119682/swedish-experiment-spotify-helps-recording-industry-make-lots-money.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120713/02212119682/swedish-experiment-spotify-helps-recording-industry-make-lots-money.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:07:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Myth Dispensing: The Whole 'Spotify Barely Pays Artists' Story Is Bunk</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the key talking points that we've heard from the "haters" of the new music business models is the claim that Spotify pays next-to-nothing to artists.  This is really based on a few stories, taken totally out of context, concerning a few artists who received relatively small checks from Spotify.  David Lowery actually used this as a key point in his screed against young music fans and their supposedly "unethical" behavior: to him, even if you are listening to a legal, licensed service like Spotify, you're "unethical" because he's heard rumors that Spotify doesn't pay enough.
<br /><br />
 However, the more you look, the more you realize that Spotify actually pays out quite a lot.  A few months ago, someone at one of the music collection societies told me about an analysis they had done concerning the amount of money paid <i>per listen</i> -- comparing Spotify to radio, iTunes and lots of other things.  When you knock it down to a per listen basis, it turns out that Spotify pays <i>a hell of a lot more</i> than any of those other sources.  It's just that it's incremental so it looks smaller.  With iTunes, people pay per download, not per listen, so you basically upfront a certain amount of money and then no more money is ever paid for listening to those songs.  With radio, there is (effectively) a per listen rate (outside the US if we're talking performances), but it's <i>aggregated</i> because it's effectively spread among all the listeners.  So, Spotify makes it incremental, and it seems small.  but when measured on a per listen basis, the amount is <i>significantly</i> higher (as in an order of magnitude) than other things.  The other bit of confusion about this is that Spotify is still new, and it's growing.  But start from a small base, and it's easy to be confused by small numbers.
<br /><br />
However, the info is starting to get out.  Evolver.fm has some interesting details, starting with a leaked report showing that the payouts from Spotify to labels (including indies) have been <a href="http://evolver.fm/2012/05/08/confidential-report-shows-big-increase-in-spotifys-payouts-to-indie-labels/" target="_blank">increasing massively</a>.  They also have an <a href="http://evolver.fm/2012/06/21/david-lowery-might-be-right-about-some-things-but-hes-wrong-about-streaming-money-and-artists/" target="_blank">interview with Merlin's CEO</a> (Merlin represents a bunch of indie labels, giving it a lot of clout in negotiations).  And Merlin says the claims of Spotify not paying out are bogus:
<blockquote><i>
Spotify&#8217;s payouts to Merlin&#8217;s 10,000-plus indie labels rose 250 percent from the year ending March 2011 to the year ending March 2012. More importantly, the revenue per user (RPU) &#8220;has grown significantly alongside the overall revenue growth and is currently the highest it has been since the launch of the service,&#8221; said Caldas. &#8220;We see consistent, ongoing growth on revenue per user, revenue per stream, and the total revenue the service brings.&#8221;
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So what's the real issue?  Well, as Merlin's CEO says, Spotify pays <i>labels</i>, not artists.  And labels aren't always great about paying artists.  That's not Spotify's fault.  It's what you get when you sign up for a major label that demands your copyrights (you know, the kind of system that David Lowery insists is better).  There's also the issue with the growth of the service.  Again, Merlin's CEO points out that Spotify has been growing a lot (helped along by its adoption in the US), but payments do take some time, first from Spotify to labels and then from labels to artists (if the labels ever do pay).  So what artists are seeing is payments from quite some time ago, not what's actually happening today.
<br /><br />
Meanwhile, Hypebot has a great <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2012/06/hypebot-interviews-spotifys-secret-weapon-da-wallach-artist-in-residence-.html" target="_blank">interview with D.A. Wallach</a>, who is both half of the very successful band Chester French (who we've written about for their amazing ability to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090803/0308375752.shtml">connect with fans</a> and their cool ideas like <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090526/1854275015.shtml">encouraging fans to share their music</a>), and also the "artist in residence" at Spotify -- where he helps present the artist's viewpoint, and act as a liaison with other artists.  In the interview, he points out that about 70% of Spotify's revenue is being paid out to copyright holders at this point:
<blockquote><i>
Anyone who doesn&#8217;t think we&#8217;re paying a fair cut hasn&#8217;t seen the numbers we pay out. By far the vast majority of the money we&#8217;re making goes back to the owners of the music &#8211; about 70%. When compared to iTunes, the average listener spends $60 dollars a year into the creative community, whereas Spotify Premium users spend $120 per year. As &#8220;the pie gets bigger&#8221; so to speak, so do the royalty payments. The growth of the platform is proportional to the royalty pay out and since inception we&#8217;ve already doubled the effective per play rate.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, once again, the money is going to the labels, and it's the label's job to disperse it to the artists.  But to use those small payments as evidence against the "new" system is wrong, since it's still the "old" labels hanging onto the money.
<br /><br />
There are, still, some legitimate concerns about how Spotify splits up its proceeds between major labels and indies, since the majors have an equity stake.  So there is a reasonable concern about fairness.  But the claim that Spotify just doesn't pay very much to artists is simply unfounded.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/16193319442/myth-dispensing-whole-spotify-barely-pays-artists-story-is-bunk.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/16193319442/myth-dispensing-whole-spotify-barely-pays-artists-story-is-bunk.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/16193319442/myth-dispensing-whole-spotify-barely-pays-artists-story-is-bunk.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:10:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>David Lowery Wants A Pony</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I'm kind of amazed at how many people have been sending over, tweeting or submitting David Lowery's <a href="http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/letter-to-emily-white-at-npr-all-songs-considered/" target="_blank">"Letter to Emily White at NPR All Songs Considered."</a>  Everyone seems to think there's something worth commenting on there, but I can't find it, frankly.  Lowery, as we've discussed before, has some <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120220/00310917802/if-youre-going-to-compare-old-music-biz-model-with-new-music-biz-model-least-make-some-sense.shtml">nonsensical ideas</a> about the strawman he thinks is "the new music business model" which is somehow worse than "the old music business model."  He's both right and wrong.  It's "worse" for some people and better for others, but there's one thing that's not debatable: it's not going away.
<br /><br />
His letter to Emily is both right and wrong.  He exaggerates what Emily actually said, and paints her as some massive pirate, despite the fact that she doesn't use file sharing networks and the gist of her blog post at NPR was basically that she and her generation just don't see the point of "owning" music any more since it's so widely available.  Access, not ownership, as they say.  But to Lowery, that appears to be a huge sin, because the way a few musicians made money in the past was to sell music, and thus, forever must it be the same.
<br /><br />
Toss in some righteous indignation that some tech companies have figured out ways to provide useful services that people want to buy, a confusion over correlation and causation... and suddenly Lowery claims to have made a "moral" argument that we should all go back to paying for music in a world where many people don't see how that makes sense.
<br /><br />
Yes, and I'd like a pony too.
<br /><br />
Look, I spend an inordinate amount of time looking at new business models for content, because I think it's important to support culture.  But my focus is on <i>what's working in today's market</i>, not pining for the way things used to be.  As Bob Lefsetz <a href="http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2012/06/18/the-david-lowery-screed/" target="_blank">eloquently said in response to Lowery</a>:
<blockquote><i>
While we&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t we save the printers&#8217; jobs too. And bring back Smith-Corona. That company had employees&#8230;
<br /><br />
I believe artists should be paid. But that does not mean they should be paid the same way they used to be
</i></blockquote>
There are amazing new business models that work.  What doesn't work is sitting around and pining for the old days or lecturing people on a "morality" that they clearly don't agree with (and its even worse when you try to make them guilty for using services they find useful).  That's just not a workable strategy.  Again, to Lefsetz:
<blockquote><i>
To be fighting file-sharing is akin to protesting dot matrix printers. File-trading is on its way out. Because it takes too much time to do it. And you don&#8217;t fight piracy with laws, but economic solutions. It doesn&#8217;t pay to steal if you can listen instantly on Spotify and its ilk.
<br /><br />
And please stop bitching about the low payouts&#8230; That&#8217;s like saying Apple should liquidate and give the proceeds back to its stockholders, which is what Michael Dell so famously said in the nineties. Spotify is a trojan horse. You get hooked, and then you pay for higher quality on your mobile. Facebook stock gets hammered because of its inadequate mobile strategy and you&#8217;re not smart enough to see the connection to music??? You can&#8217;t get Spotify and its brethren on your handset without paying. And you will. Because you like the convenience of having all your music at your fingertips all the time.
</i></blockquote>
The complaints of low Spotify payouts are a mirage.  Go talk to Jeff Price, a guy who knows this stuff better than just about anyone, and let him explain just how <a href="http://blog.tunecore.com/2012/06/can-artists-get-rich-in-a-streaming-music-industry.html?utm_medium=email&ref=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=newseletter06_07_12" target="_blank">the streaming world is developing</a>.  There's a huge and growing opportunity here, and people who look at the snapshot view rather than the trends are missing the big picture.  The innovator's dilemma teaches us that the old guard always mocks the new players for being too small or not paying enough.  But they miss the trendlines for the snapshot.  And when the trendlines converge, they get run over.
<br /><br />
David Lowery can ask for a pony all he wants, but it doesn't change the reality.  Let's focus on the reality of the models that are working and the opportunities to enable more great new things.  Lefsetz points out that we should focus on making great music and the other things will start to sort themselves out.  Price points out that if we focus on enabling more useful services (the kind that Lowery dumps on) there's a ton of money to be made (more than ever before).  There's a world of opportunity there, but David Lowery wants a pony and wants to make a moral example out of a young music lover who just wants to listen to music.
<br /><br />
David Lowery wants his pony, sees a tide to hold back, and plenty of windmills to tilt at, but the rest of us prefer to live in the real world.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120619/11493419390/david-lowery-wants-pony.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120619/11493419390/david-lowery-wants-pony.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120619/11493419390/david-lowery-wants-pony.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:31:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Spotify In A Box: Why Sharing Will Never Be Stopped</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Most people will be familiar with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moores_law">Moore's Law</a>, usually stated in the form that processing power doubles every two years (or 18 months in some versions.)  But just as important are the equivalent compound gains for storage and connectivity speeds, sometimes known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kryder">Kryder's Law</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen%27s_Law#Contributions">Nielsen's Law</a> respectively.
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To see why, consider that the IBM PC XT had a 10 Mbyte hard drive when it was launched in 1983, which meant you couldn't even fit a single song on it.  Similarly, the first widely-used modem, the 1981 Hayes Smartmodem, had a maximum speed of 300 baud: to transfer a digitized song using a dial-up connection would have taken around 500 hours. 
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With those kind of figures, it's easy to see why the recording industry underestimated the threat that file sharing would become once the Internet arrived: based on the past, it was almost inconceivable that people would ever swap music between computers.  Of course, once that did start to happen, and the shape of the future became obvious to many, the industry nonetheless wilfully ignored the facts and the trends at every turn, when instead it should have taken the lead in re-inventing media for the Internet age.
</p><p>
That woeful history of refusing to accept the implications of rapidly-advancing technologies makes this <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227382/60TB_disk_drives_could_be_a_reality_in_2016">prediction</a>, found via Slashdot, even more fateful:

<i><blockquote>Technologies that will make it possible to expand disk density include heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR), which Seagate patented in 2006. Seagate has already said it will be able to produce a 60TB 3.5-in. hard drive by 2016.</blockquote></i>

Assuming Seagate or someone else delivers, that 60 terabyte hard disk could store around 10 million typical MP3 files.  <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/07/22/spotify_vs_girl_talk_what_is_spotify_s_music_catalog_missing_.html">A year ago, Spotify was said to have 15 million tracks</a>, which means that you could store most of today's Spotify on that future Seagate drive.  Spotify is likely to grow even larger by 2016, but it probably won't grow as fast as the storage capacity of hard disks, so there will be some point in the not-too-distant future when you can place all of its holdings on a single hard disk: Spotify in a box.
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Obviously, few people will choose to do that, but storing your favorite million songs will not only be realistic, it will be cheap -- and even portable.  Provided the transfer rate to and from such disks also keeps up with the growth in capacities -- an indispensable technological requirement, otherwise they become impossible to use -- this means that people will be able to move around huge collections of music, without ever touching an Internet connection.  That makes all those three-strikes plans moot, since you won't actually need your broadband line in order to swap files with friends.  You'll just plug in your portable hard drives to a common computer and exchange stuff directly (as probably already happens with today's terabyte-sized portable disks.)
</p><p>
In an ideal world, we would also see a kind of constant scaling of the intelligence of the recording industry, such that by 2016 it would finally accept that trying to stop sharing -- whether online or off -- is simply pointless.  Somehow, though, I think we'll just have to make do with the other variants of Moore's Law.
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:21:47 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How Monopolies Strangle Innovation: Record Label Demands Making Investors Nervous About Spotify</title>
<dc:creator>Leigh Beadon</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>According to <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-is-raising-at-a-stunning-35-billion-valuation-multiple-vcs-say-2012-3?op=1" target="_blank">rumors</a> reported by Business Insider, music streaming service Spotify is currently working on raising another round of funding at a valuation of about $3.5 billion&mdash;a figure that is making some major investment firms skeptical, despite the service's considerable success at growing its customer base. Over at TechCrunch, Josh Constine points out the most likely reason investors are reluctant: they know that the recording industry uses its copyright monopoly <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/23/spotify-funding/" target="_blank">to exact a "tax on success" from innovative music startups</a>.</p>

<blockquote><em>Unfortunately, this is why investing in Spotify may not be wise and why firms like Andreessen-Horowitz may have passed. It&#8217;s a great service with a big lead on other music streamers. But as it scales and gains traction, the record labels will increase their tax. There&#8217;s no way Spotify will pay the same fees if it hits 15 million subscribers as it does now. That will make it harder for Spotify to return the multiple most investors want any time soon.
<br /><br />
In most industries, if a partner charges you too high a licensing fee you can go to one of their competitors. That&#8217;s not how it works in music. You can&#8217;t get a cheaper equivalent to Michael Jackson or Lady Gaga like you could for enterprise software. If you want &#8220;Thriller&#8221; you have to pay whatever the labels ask. And even if it does, Spotify isn&#8217;t getting exclusive access to that content.</em></blockquote>

<p>Though the specifics of the deals between record labels and music streaming services are secret, many details have been leaked over time, and it's long been known that they are onerous and one-sided. Last year, Michael Robertson of MP3tunes explained how the general structure of the deals make growth and innovation <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/12/11/why-spotify-can-never-be-profitable-the-secret-demands-of-record-labels/" target="_blank">extremely difficult</a>, while collusion among the labels eliminates any last shred of competition and ensures that a service like Spotify can never negotiate better terms. Investors know that music startups essentially live or die at the behest of the legacy industry, and investors are smart&mdash;they aren't about to bet millions on record labels making good decisions.</p>

<p>Economically speaking, none of this is surprising, because copyright is a monopoly and <em>this is what monopolies do</em>. They distort the free market and allow the monopolists to control the competition. Adding insult to injury, recording industry defenders like to tout streaming services as examples of how the industry embraces innovation, and RIAA CEO Cary Sherman recently said he was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120305/10142117983/riaa-still-doesnt-get-it-hopes-sopa-opposition-was-one-time-experience.shtml" target="_blank">surprised</a> that Spotify wasn't generating more revenue for the labels. To anyone who understands how difficult the labels have made life for these startups, claims like these don't pass the laugh test&mdash;and Spotify's difficulty securing funding is just more evidence of this fact. Its numbers would make it a hot investment property if it operated in any space other than music, but because it is shackled to a dying industry with a long history of technophobia, investors take their money elsewhere. Who can blame them?</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/15173518227/how-monopolies-strangle-innovation-record-label-demands-making-investors-nervous-about-spotify.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/15173518227/how-monopolies-strangle-innovation-record-label-demands-making-investors-nervous-about-spotify.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/15173518227/how-monopolies-strangle-innovation-record-label-demands-making-investors-nervous-about-spotify.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:06:36 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Spotify Finally Launches In Germany -- And Immediately Hits Data Protection Problems</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>The music streaming service Spotify has adopted a rather unusual pattern of launches around the world.  Founded in Sweden, it spread gradually to various parts of Europe, and only later arrived in the US.  The main reason for this slow rollout seems to have been difficulty striking licensing deals with the major recording companies.  
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That's also why Spotify has only just <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/03/13/finally-spotify-says-guten-tag-to-german-users/">launched</a> in the important market of Germany.  The main problem is the notoriously unhelpful German music collection society <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120225/02270617882/sony-music-exec-internet-is-full-opportunities-not-problem-intransigent-collection-societies-however.shtml">GEMA</a>.  Surprisingly, Spotify <b>still</b> <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/03/14/spotify-no-gema-contract/">doesn't have a license</a>, but it turns out that's only one of its problems in the country.  Via Twitter, <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/AdV007">Arjan</a> points out that Germany's Federal Commissioner for Data Protection, Peter Schaar, and Berlin's Data Protection Commissioner, Alexander Dix, are both unhappy with Spotify, since it seems to be incompatible with Germany's data protection laws (<a href="http://www.noz.de/deutschland-und-welt/vermischtes/61551360/datenschuetzer-kritisieren-musikdienst-spotify">German original</a>.)
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The problem arises from the fact that Spotify requires users to have a Facebook account to sign up. That means it is not possible to use the service anonymously or pseudonymously -- as required by German law.  It's not yet clear what the data protection commissioners intend to do about this -- Dix, for example, is simply recommending that Spotify changes its business model to render it compatible with German laws.
</p><p>
It's rather appropriate that when Spotify launches in Germany, a country well-known for its concerns about privacy, it should encounter problems in this area -- just as it was probably inevitable that soon after its arrival in the US, Spotify was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/00525815296/that-didnt-take-long-spotify-sued-patent-infringement-just-weeks-after-entering-us-market.shtml">sued</a> for alleged patent infringement.
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<title>A Problem Worse Than Piracy? The Ridiculous Structure Of Online Music Licensing Deals</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've pointed out many, many times in the past that the absolute best (and perhaps only) way to really get people to move away from infringing is to offer better, cheaper, more convenient and feature-filled legitimate services.  But those are pretty difficult to come by -- in part because of the insane demands by the legacy entertainment industry players.  Why do you think it took over two years for Spotify to finally come to the US?  Because the labels demands were crazy and unsustainable.  Michael Robertson is now <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/12/11/why-spotify-can-never-be-profitable-the-secret-demands-of-record-labels/" target="_blank">revealing some of those demands</a>, but sums it up best in his first paragraph:
<blockquote><i>
Imagine a new hot-dog selling venture. Let&rsquo;s also say there&rsquo;s only one supplier to purchase hot dogs from. Instead of simply charging a fixed price for hot dogs, that supplier demands the HIGHER of the following: $1 per hot dog sold OR $2 for every customer served OR 50 percent of all revenues for anything sold in the store.  In addition, the supplier requires a two-year minimum order of 300 hot dogs per day, payable all in advance. If fewer hot dogs are sold, there is no refund. If more than 300 hot dogs are sold each day, payments to the supplier are generated by calculating $2 per customer or 50 percent of total revenues, so an additional payment is due to the supplier. After the first two years, the supplier can unilaterally adjust any of the pricing terms and the shop can never switch suppliers.
</i></blockquote>
Doesn't seem like a particularly good business.  When you hear of deals like that, it's kind of amazing that any of these businesses exist at all.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/02441617038/problem-worse-than-piracy-ridiculous-structure-online-music-licensing-deals.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/02441617038/problem-worse-than-piracy-ridiculous-structure-online-music-licensing-deals.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/02441617038/problem-worse-than-piracy-ridiculous-structure-online-music-licensing-deals.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>How Labels Pulling Out Of Spotify Are Doing Massive Harm To Themselves</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Just a couple months ago, we pointed out how labels dropping out of Spotify were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110922/11224716052/labels-dropping-out-spotify-are-totally-missing-point.shtml">totally missing the point</a>.  A few labels had argued that Spotify only pays a tiny amount per stream, and that was somehow cutting into sales revenue.  However, two recent stories we wrote about highlight how this is becoming an even more braindead move than before.  And yet, the trend continues.  Just recently there were stories about <a href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/more-than-200-indie-labels-just-pulled-music-from,65479/" target="_blank">over 200 labels being pulled off Spotify</a> by distributor STHoldings, who gave the usual song and dance about not cannibalizing revenue.
<br /><br />
Here's why that's dumb.  First, as we saw in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03191216939/yet-another-study-shows-that-hollywoods-own-bad-decisions-are-increasing-amount-infringement.shtml">recent study about piracy</a>, taking content away from where people want it doesn't lead to increased sales.  As the professors who did the report <a href="http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/196051-delaying-content-leaves-money-on-the-table" target="_blank">explained</a>:
<blockquote><i>
When NBC removed its content from the iTunes store for about nine months in 2007 and 2008, there was an 11.4 percent increase in piracy, but no increase in NBC&rsquo;s DVD sales &mdash; a loss of close to $20 million, given 23,000 lost sales per day at an average price of $3. And when ABC added its content to Hulu in July 2009, piracy dropped by 30 percent. Likewise, when a major book publisher stopped selling new Kindle titles on Amazon in 2010, there was no increase in hardcover sales, and when the Kindle titles were finally made available, their sales were 50 percent lower than they otherwise would have been.
</i></blockquote>
Making your content available on these platforms drives sales elsewhere.  Keeping them off does the opposite.  It actually hurts sales.
<br /><br />
Add to that the release of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03541116940/spotify-finally-becomes-true-platform-now-lets-see-some-innovation.shtml">the new platform</a> for developers.  That means that soon there will be a ton of ways to build additional revenue opportunities on top of Spotify.  It'll be easy to buy concert tickets.  Or merchandise.  Or collectable items.  Or pretty much anything you want... directly through the Spotify music player itself.  But if the bands aren't there, then people will simply ignore or forget about those acts... and they'll find others via Spotify.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/04085816941/how-labels-pulling-out-spotify-are-doing-massive-harm-to-themselves.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/04085816941/how-labels-pulling-out-spotify-are-doing-massive-harm-to-themselves.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/04085816941/how-labels-pulling-out-spotify-are-doing-massive-harm-to-themselves.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Spotify Finally Becomes A True Platform: Now Let's See Some Innovation</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Nearly two years ago, Spotify first <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0047288037.shtml">hinted</a> at its desire to set itself up as a platform that others could build things on top of.  And it's <a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/11/spotify-music-platform/all/1" target="_blank">finally become a reality</a>.  This could actually be quite cool.  Just a couple months ago, we were pointing out that just "putting radio on the internet" isn't that cool, but that we need <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110915/15172615970/getting-past-just-putting-radio-internet-killer-apps-come-next.shtml">killer apps for music</a>.  Spotify as a platform will hopefully make it easier for those killer apps to happen.  The current crop of apps that they launched with are pretty ordinary, but I'm excited to think what comes next.  Things I'd love to see: Turntable.fm (still the most addictive and coolest "social music" service out there) integrated directly into Spotify) as well as integration with things like TopSpin or Bandcamp.  Right now there are options to do ticketsales, but what if you could build in ways to let people buy merch... or, better yet, <i>connect</i> with the artist directly via Spotify?  And those are the obvious ones.  The real killer app is probably going to take us all entirely by surprise.  This is, by the way, yet another reason that short-sighted artists and labels are going to regret dropping out of Spotify.  You have to be where the killer apps are or you're going to get left behind.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03541116940/spotify-finally-becomes-true-platform-now-lets-see-some-innovation.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03541116940/spotify-finally-becomes-true-platform-now-lets-see-some-innovation.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03541116940/spotify-finally-becomes-true-platform-now-lets-see-some-innovation.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:07:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How Not To Make Music Social: The Way Spotify And Facebook Did It</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week there was a lot of talk about Facebook's new setup, which would allow for tighter integration and sharing of everything that people do, with music being a key example.  Whether or not that's a good idea, I have no idea.  To be honest, I think that it could make sense long term -- but the way that it's been implemented seems like a disaster to me, as I discovered when I logged into Spotify today.  Apparently, Spotify is <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220302/Facebook_and_Spotify_drop_the_other_shoe?taxonomyId=18" target="_blank">pissing off a ton of people by requiring a Facebook login to use the service now</a>.  I have less of an issue with that than I do with the fact that Spotify popped up a box telling me I had to connect to Facebook, but not making it <i>at all</i> clear what that meant.  It notes that Spotify <i>can</i> share the details of what I'm listening to with others, but does not explain what that means.  Will it share everything I play with everyone automatically?  Will it give me the option of what to share?  Will it give me the option of who I'm sharing it with?  That's not clear at all.  Even worse, nowhere is there any explanation of how or where I can find out more.  Instead, Spotify just opens as normal.
<br /><br />
It turns out that Spotify just starts sharing everything you play on Facebook, without even making it clear to the user that it's doing that.  I couldn't find that info on my own profile.  It was only after I asked a question and a Facebook friend told me what I was listening to that I knew the info was being shared.  Even worse, how to turn it off is not clear at all either.  Thankfully <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5843847/how-to-keep-spotify-from-broadcasting-your-music-taste-to-all-of-facebook" target="_blank">Lifehacker explains how to stop spamming everyone with what you're playing on Spotify</a>. You can do so by unchecking the following box, which makes no sense at all:
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If you can't see it, it says: "Get personal recommendations by sending music you play to Facebook's Open Graph."  But, what does "personal recommendations" have to do with anything?  Why can't Spotify just be upfront and honest and say, "spam all your friends on Facebook with what you're playing"?  Again, I recognize that some people want to do this, and I have no problem with people choosing to do it.  My problem is with the way that Facebook and Spotify implemented this, where it's not even remotely clear what you're doing.  Given Facebook's similar problems in the past (hello, Beacon) you would think that the company would recognize the importance of <i>being clear</i> and <i>totally upfront</i> about what info is being shared with whom and how to control it.  Instead, it seems like the exact opposite.
<br /><br />
Again, I'd have no problem sharing some of what I listen to if I have control over it.  But, really, are any of my friends really going to want to know when I play the "lullaby playlist" I put together for my son?  There are some friends with whom I have no problem sharing what I'm listening to, but plenty of others where it's just not something I'd share with them at all.  And perhaps there are hidden controls buried in the preferences somewhere, but it's not at all clear, which leads me to now totally distrust Spotify and Facebook.  Facebook I was already on the fence about, but I liked Spotify (and pay for a subscription).  If these companies can't even get the basics right concerning how I can share my info, I'm going to have to look elsewhere.  It's amazing how quickly a company can destroy a ton of goodwill.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/15102916100/how-not-to-make-music-social-way-spotify-facebook-did-it.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/15102916100/how-not-to-make-music-social-way-spotify-facebook-did-it.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/15102916100/how-not-to-make-music-social-way-spotify-facebook-did-it.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:47:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Labels Dropping Out Of Spotify Are Totally Missing The Point</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110922/11224716052/labels-dropping-out-spotify-are-totally-missing-point.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently reposted a blog post by the indie band <a href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com/releases" target="_blank">Uniform Motion</a> discussing <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20110911/00284415891/how-much-does-band-make-various-music-platforms.shtml">how much money they make from various music platforms</a>.  A bunch of other blogs reported on it too and it created some misguided controversy.  First, however, in our post, we included the band's Bandcamp streaming widget and are going to do so again here, because it's fun and the music is good.  So click play as you read the rest of the post:
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<iframe style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/album=1457836118/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" height="100" width="400">&lt;a href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com/album/one-frame-per-second-2011"&gt;One Frame Per Second (2011) by Uniform Motion&lt;/a&gt;</iframe>
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The controversy started because some people focused almost exclusively on the amount that the band said it made from Spotify streams. Following that, <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/09/another-indie-label-pulls-from-spotify.html" target="_blank">three indie record labels pulled all their tracks from Spotify</a>, with quotes such as "there does not appear to be an upside."
<br /><br />
Spotify tried to stem the criticism by noting that <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/09/spotify-responds-to-artist-payments-controversy.html">users don't pay per stream</a>, and that it's just selling access, and thus "it does not make sense to look at revenues from Spotify from a per stream or other music unit-based point of view," and later that Spotify is <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/09/spotify-offers-additonal-response-to-independent-label-defections.html">generating significant revenue for labels</a>.  To be honest, this response is a bit tone deaf.  Even if Spotify isn't a per-unit business, it's always going to be how musicians view the service.  Of course, the bigger point, made by Jay Frank, is that <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/09/jay-frank-its-not-spotifys-fault-that-you-make-so-little-money.html" target="_blank">if indie bands don't make much money</a>, it's not Spotify's fault -- it's the fact that not many people listen to their music.
<br /><br />
And that actually gets to the bigger point, and shows why it's short-sighted (bordering on braindead) for labels to drop out of Spotify, claiming the payments aren't high enough.  We noted in our original post that depending solely on direct payments for music is simply a bad (or, at least, incomplete) business model for musicians.  But, making it more difficult for anyone to hear you doesn't help you get any money either.  As Frank notes in his piece:
<blockquote><i>
The issue is that you then encounter the one thing worse than getting paid peanuts and that&rsquo;s obscurity. People want to be entertained by music, not have to hunt things down. It has to be easy, which is why Spotify has gained so much traction. If you manage to get an average music fan&rsquo;s attention on your band (out of the THREE THOUSAND others that released something that week) for 2 seconds and they look on Spotify and it&rsquo;s not there, do you know what they do? They move on to another song. And you&rsquo;ve lost your chance of gaining a fan. And the royalty. The number of people who would then spend time searching for alternative listening methods is miniscule.
</i></blockquote>
So taking yourself out of Spotify means you get <b>no</b> royalties, which seems worse than little royalties, <i>and</i> you make it harder for fans to find you, learn about you... and decide to support you in other ways.  So, how does it benefit artists to not be in Spotify?  I don't get it...  Complain about Spotify's royalty rates all you want, but you can still leverage the platform to make money in other ways (direct to fan, shows, merch, etc.).  And then laugh as Spotify gets none of that revenue, despite helping you build your fanbase.
<br /><br />
In fact, some competing indie labels have already noted that Spotify has helped other parts of their business.  The label Earache recently noted that <a href="http://www.metalinsider.net/digital-media/exclusive-earache-records-responds-to-spotify-press-release" target="_blank">Spotify appears to have increased their iTunes revenue</a>:
<blockquote><i>
While none of us have a crystal ball to see exactly which way the future of this business is going to turn, we have been actively embracing all possible legal outlets for our artists and their music. We have given away free album downloads by both Gama Bomb and Wormrot and like to think we keep an open mind on the latest ways people &ldquo;consume&rdquo; their music.
<br /><br />
I do not believe for one minute the record industry is dying but evolving (as it always has) and it is up to us as record labels to find, develop and build careers for our artists utilizing our accumulative years of experience.
<br /><br />
<b>I think it is no coincidence that when Spotify launched here in the USA, we also had our best ever month of sales on iTunes</b>. Spotify is just one of the many new ways that fans can find and listen to new music by our recording artists and should be seen as that and nothing more.&rdquo;
</i></blockquote>
Exactly.  That's a record label who understands the bigger point.  Those leaving Spotify in protest aren't doing themselves or their artists any favors.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110922/11224716052/labels-dropping-out-spotify-are-totally-missing-point.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110922/11224716052/labels-dropping-out-spotify-are-totally-missing-point.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110922/11224716052/labels-dropping-out-spotify-are-totally-missing-point.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:20:23 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Getting Past Just 'Putting Radio On The Internet' - Killer Apps Come Next</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Musician (Gang of Four) and marketing guru, Dave Allen, recently put up one of his insightful blog posts, questioning <a href="http://www.pampelmoose.com/2011/09/should-pandora-spotify-rdio-mog-et-al-even-exist" target="_blank">where the real disruption in online music is</a> these days, and complaining that all of the services we see out there today are basically just "creating radio on the internet."  And they're all almost identical.
<blockquote><i>
The modern version of that is the wholesale commoditizing of music catalogs by the labels who create licensing deals with the streaming music services. Those actions in turn further homogenize the streaming music service systems as the services only have access to the same catalogs &ndash; there is no differentiation. Artists get pennies, or less than a penny, when someone streams their song, and the listener gets advertising in the stream unless they pay to escape the ads.
<br /><br />
Music streaming on the web is not a Big Idea, it&rsquo;s simply a lack of intellectual vision and thinking. Worse, it has advanced the &ldquo;passive listening&rdquo; experience. It&rsquo;s just terrestrial radio dumped on to the web in other words &ndash; including advertising....
<br /><br />
[....]
<br /><br />
The bottom line is that there is no differentiation at the end of the day between Mog, Rdio, Spotify, Rhapsody, and all the others too numerous to mention, if they all have the same music catologs &ndash; widgets and tactics don&rsquo;t count.
</i></blockquote>
I agree that we haven't yet seen all that much that's really innovative in music, but I'm not as worried about it as Dave.  As I noted about the SF MusicTech conference (where Dave moderated a panel on exactly this subject), it really felt like we'd finally gotten past the doom and gloom and started <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110913/04061515930/sf-musictech-new-hope.shtml">looking at the real opportunities</a> in the music business today.  I think that much of the lack of innovation is because pretty much anyone who has really tried to innovate has been shot down by lawsuits.  Seriously.  The second you do something marginally innovative that starts getting attention, a major label comes up with an excuse to sue, mainly to regain some amount of control.  So these clone music services are, in part, a reaction to all of that.  The reason they all look the same is because they now know what it takes to fall into line and not get sued.
<br /><br />
But I don't think that's a problem for the next wave of innovation in the space.  Yes, many of these services effectively replicate radio on the internet today.  But when you look through history, that often is the first wave of history when dealing with new media.  You take the old media and move it to the new platform.  It takes a generation or two before people start to recognize that the new media has special or different characteristics that really let you do something <i>unique</i> and <i>new</i>.  Then it takes a little while before people start figuring out what that is.  It's why I'm excited about things like <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110621/17003314793/how-long-until-riaa-kills-best-music-service-around.shtml">Turntable.fm</a>. Whether or not it's really the next generation offering that becomes a success story, it is a sign that people are finally starting to branch out and try things that are unique and different and really only possible on the medium of the internet.
<br /><br />
In fact, while I'm a fan of Spotify and Pandora, since playing with Turntable.fm, I always feel sort of disappointed that I can't merge the three.  Spotify has a huge collection, and I'd love to be able to move my playlists directly into Turntable.fm, or use Pandora's matching engine to find similar songs to what I'm playing or what others are playing within Turntable.
<br /><br />
So I think we're just entering the very beginning phase of real innovation in the music service market space.  The companies here today may or may not survive.  Or maybe they'll drive the changes and come up with the next great innovations themselves.  But it's still early in the game.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110915/15172615970/getting-past-just-putting-radio-internet-killer-apps-come-next.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110915/15172615970/getting-past-just-putting-radio-internet-killer-apps-come-next.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110915/15172615970/getting-past-just-putting-radio-internet-killer-apps-come-next.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:57:16 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How Much Does A Band Make From Various Music Platforms?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ My friend Tom alerts us to a blog post by the indie European band Uniform Motion (which he found via a blog post <a href="http://blog.jasonweinberger.com/post/9960435319/release-day-economics" target="_blank">by Jason Weinberger</a>), in which the band lays out clearly <a href="http://uniformmotion.tumblr.com/post/9659997039/release-day-economics" target="_blank">the cuts they get from selling their music</a> on various services.  It's pretty detailed, and since the world is often starved for this kind of data, we're going to share it, though, we also suggest that you check out the band's own <a href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com/releases" target="_blank">Bandcamp page</a>, and will embed the streaming player from there right here, before the content, so you can hit play and listen to the (excellent) music while you read the rest of the post.
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<blockquote><i>
Unfortunately, you will not find our record in any record stores. The reason for this is because we do not have a record label, which means we have no access to distribution. Without a distributor, you cannot sell your CD&rsquo;s in record stores. If you work for a distributor and you&rsquo;re interested in carrying our CD or Vinyl, or both, feel free to contact us!&nbsp;
<br /><br />
If you choose to purchase our music or use one of the &lsquo;legal&rsquo; streaming services, here&rsquo;s an overview of where the pennies go.&nbsp;<br /><br />
<strong><a title="s" href="http://open.spotify.com/album/25yeSPTSlUqvH7drGQPXa4">SPOTIFY</a>:&nbsp;</strong>
With Spotify, we&rsquo;ll get 0.003 EUR/play.&nbsp;
<br /><br />
If you listen to the album all the way through, we&rsquo;ll get 0.029 EUR.
<br /><br />
If you listen to the album 10 times on Spotify, we&rsquo;ll get 0.29 EUR
<br /><br />
If you listen to it a hundred times, we&rsquo;ll get 2.94 EUR
<br /><br />
If you listen to the album 1,000 times (once a day for 3 years!) we&rsquo;ll get 29.47 EUR!
<br /><br />
If you use the free version of Spotify, it won&rsquo;t cost you anything. Spotify will make money from ads.&nbsp;If you use any of the paid versions, we have no idea how they carve up the money. They only disclose this information to the Major record labels...
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="d" href="http://www.deezer.com/en/music/uniform-motion/one-frame-per-second-1149229">DEEZER</a>:</strong><br /><br />Deezer seems to pay a little more.
<br /><br />
We&rsquo;ve been getting 0.006 EUR/play from them.&nbsp;That&rsquo;s 0.052 EUR/album play.&nbsp;If you listen to the album 10 times on Deezer, we&rsquo;ll get 0.52 EUR.&nbsp;If you listen to it a hundred times, we&rsquo;ll get 5.2 EUR.&nbsp;If you listen to the album 1,000 times (once a day for 3 years!) we&rsquo;ll get a whopping 52 EUR!&nbsp;
<br /><br />
If you use the free version of Deezer, it won&rsquo;t cost you anything and Deezer will make money from the ads. If you use any of the paid versions, we have no idea how they carve up the money either.
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="e" href="http://www.emusic.com/listen/#/label/Uniform-Motion-TuneCore-MP3-Download/675953.html">eMUSIC:</a></strong>
<br /><br />
eMusic is a subscription service. The cost of the album will depend on the plan you have. We get roughly $0.29/song or $2.60/album (9 songs).
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="a" href="http://www.amazon.fr/One-Frame-Per-Second/dp/B00589F5FS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1314802388&#038;sr=8-1">AMAZON MP3</a>:</strong>
<br /><br />
You&rsquo;ll pay 7.11 EUR to download the MP3&rsquo;s.&nbsp;We will get 4.97 EUR of that. That&rsquo;s a 70-30 split.
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="i" href="http://itunes.apple.com/fr/album/one-frame-per-second/id444520328">iTUNES</a>:</strong>
<br /><br />
The album will cost you 8.91 EUR to buy from Apple.
<br /><br />
There&rsquo;s a 70-30% split there too, so we will keep 6.28 EUR/album.
<br /><br />
That being said, it costs us 35 EUR/year to keep an album on iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon (105 EUR per year for all 3 of our albums!) so we don&rsquo;t make any money until 24 people have bought a digital copy of the album on iTunes, or 150 single songs, or if we get tens of thousands of listens on Spotify! In most cases, it&rsquo;s actually more economically viable not to sell the music at all.
<br /><br />
But what about if you buy the Digital version directly from us?
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="b" href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com">DIGITAL:</a></strong>
<br /><br />
We allow people to pay what they want for the digital version.&nbsp;If you choose to pay 5 EUR, Paypal takes 0.37 EUR, Bandcamp takes 0.75 EUR.&nbsp;Uniform Motion keeps 3.88 EUR. it doesn&rsquo;t cost us anything to have a page on bandcamp
<br /><br />
If you decide to pay nothing, well, we get nothing, but at least you didn&rsquo;t give money indirectly to major record labels, which seems to be the case with Spotify!!
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="b" href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com">CD</a>:&nbsp;</strong>
<br /><br />
If you buy a CD, directly from us for 10 EUR, Paypal takes 0.515 EUR, Bandcamp takes 1.5 EUR.&nbsp;So there&rsquo;s slightly less than 8 EUR left for us. But hold on a second, it costs a fair bit to make the CD.
<br /><br />
The CD itself costs 1.2 EUR, the booklet costs about 50 cents, the CD packaging is 1.8 EUR and the sticker on the front costs 35 cents.<br /><br />
That&rsquo;s a total of 3.65 EUR
<br /><br />
So in reality, there&rsquo;s 4.34 EUR left for us.
<br /><br />
<strong><a title="b" href="http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com">VINYL</a>:</strong>
If you buy a 12&rdquo; Vinyl from us at 15 EUR, Bandcamp takes 2.25 EUR, Paypal takes 0.646 EUR so there&rsquo;s 12.10 left.&nbsp;The cost of the Vinyl itself is 3.06 EUR
<br /><br />
The labels cost 1.3 EUR. For a total of 4.36 EUR
<br /><br />
So there&rsquo;s 7.75 EUR left for us.
<br /><br />
However, we had to press 250 of these (because that&rsquo;s the minimum order), so it&rsquo;s very unlikely we&rsquo;ll make any money on them.
<br /><br />
We need to sell 72 copies before we break even on the vinyl edition. We&rsquo;ve sold about 30 so far.
<br /><br />
If we break even, we&rsquo;ll lower the price a little bit. :)
</i></blockquote>
Always nice to see this kind of detailed info shared so people can get a better sense of the wider economics.  What really comes through from all of this is that, as has pretty much always been the case with all but a handful of top acts, musicians don't make much money from selling music.  At least, as an indie band, Uniform Motion actually does make some money from all of these methods.  If it was a signed band, they'd almost certainly be making zilch on each play or sale, because the label would keep it until they "recouped," which for nearly every signed act is approximately never.
<br /><br />
However, it does drive home the need for ancillary revenue streams -- such as performances.  Performance revenue has issues too, but to make a living making music, it seems pretty clear that most acts need multiple revenue streams.
<br /><br />
Also, shame on Spotify for keeping the details of what happens to subscription revenue secret from all but the big labels.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20110911/00284415891/how-much-does-band-make-various-music-platforms.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20110911/00284415891/how-much-does-band-make-various-music-platforms.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20110911/00284415891/how-much-does-band-make-various-music-platforms.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:13:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Record Label Says That Pulling Music From Spotify 'Protects Artists'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've definitely seen plenty of confusion from record labels over the value of Spotify and similar services.  But, a heavy metal/hardcore label, Century Media  (which runs a variety of smaller labels: InsideOutMusic, Superballmusic, Ain't no Grave Records, Hollywood Waste and People Like You) has claimed that <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/08/century-media-pulls-all-labels-from-spotify-to-protect-artists.html" target="_blank">it's pulling all its music from Spotify to "protect artists."</a>  It's a funny way to "protect" artists by punishing fans who want to hear them.  They complain that "physical sales are dropping drastically in all countries where Spotify is active."  Their assumption appears to be that correlation is causation, and merely removing their works from Spotify will now shoot sales back up.  But that's not how things work.  If anything, it seems likely that this move will accelerate their problems with physical sales.  Not only will people not want to buy CDs, they won't even know about the musicians on this label.  They'll just listen to someone else instead.  The way you protect artists is by helping them to better connect with fans, not making it even more difficult.  If I were a band on a Century Label, I'd be pretty pissed off that the label has unilaterally decided to piss off a bunch of my fans and stop many potential fans from discovering my music.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110810/12143715467/record-label-says-that-pulling-music-spotify-protects-artists.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110810/12143715467/record-label-says-that-pulling-music-spotify-protects-artists.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110810/12143715467/record-label-says-that-pulling-music-spotify-protects-artists.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:54:25 PDT</pubDate>
<title>That Didn't Take Long: Spotify Sued For Patent Infringement Just Weeks After Entering US Market</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Hello Spotify.  Welcome to America, where if you do <i>anything</i> even remotely innovative, you get sued for patent infringement.  Indeed, just a couple weeks after entering the US market (finally), Spotify is <a href="http://news.priorsmart.com/packetvideo-v-spotify-l4fn/" target="_blank">being sued by PacketVideo for patent infringement</a>.  I knew the name PacketVideo sounded familiar... and then I remembered.  A <i>decade</i> ago it was considered one of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20010504/103229.shtml">the hottest startups on the planet</a> for trying to figure out ways to do streaming video on mobile phones (something I noted at the time I thought was not at all compelling -- which I'll admit I was totally wrong on, but that was before the invention of large screened smartphones that we have today).  Of course, PacketVideo failed to live up to the early lofty expectations, and last we heard of it, the company was <a href="http://news.brothersoft.com/docomo-to-acquire-packetvideo-1015.html" target="_blank">being acquired by DoCoMo</a> for what appears to be a lot less money than it raised over the years.
<br /><br />
Now, you might claim that perhaps PacketVideo has a legitimate patent claim here.  After all, the company has been around for well over a decade and was an early pioneer in streaming efforts.  But... the details suggest not so much.  The actual patent in question, <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=ue8GAAAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=5,636,276&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=oxExTrLlAsLjiALKnqG6Bg&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA" target="_blank">5,636,276</a>, is for a "Device for the distribution of music information in digital form."  Sound broad?  Of course, as the patent attorneys in the audience will tell you, it's not the title of the patent that matters, but the claims.  So go read through the claims and try not to gag.  What's described is the very generic idea of streaming music.  Here's the key claim:
<blockquote><i>
    a central memory device which is connected to a communications network and has a databank of digitized music information and, a terminal which is connected to the central memory device via the communications network, the central memory device being equipped with a retrieval module and the said modules having the capability to interact via the communications network in order to order and transmit selectively chosen music information, wherein the selectively chosen music information is organized with a defined format for transmission in a digital music information object, the format including a core and a number of additional layers, the core including at least one object identification code, object structure information, a consumer code and an encryption table and the one or more additional layers including the actual music information, wherein the central memory device has an encryption module for encryption of the music information object before transmission using the encryption table, and wherein the terminal has a decryption module for decryption of the music information object before its reproduction using the encryption table, an interpretation module for interpretation and reproduction conditioning of the music information object as well as an authorization device having identification information for identification of the terminal and of the consumer which is retrievable by the interpretation module and by the decryption module for authorization checking.
</i></blockquote>
Now here's the thing.  When this patent was filed in 1995, this was not a unique idea.  You could have asked any semi-competent engineer how would you build a digital music streaming service, and you would have received a similar general explanation.  The problem was never in understanding the various pieces you need to put together.  The difficulty at the time was getting enough bandwidth to do this reasonably... and getting any sort of licensing in an era before most label execs even knew what the internet was.
<br /><br />
Oh, and let's get to the important part: PacketVideo had nothing to do with this patent.  The company just bought it a few years back.  There's nothing in this patent that was some amazing breakthrough or key innovation.  Spotify is an amazing product, not because of this patent, but because of how it actually executed and built a working product.
<br /><br />
Once again, we see patents being used as a tool to shakedown companies who were actually innovative in how they executed, with a ridiculously broad patent that contributed zippo to the actual state of the art.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/00525815296/that-didnt-take-long-spotify-sued-patent-infringement-just-weeks-after-entering-us-market.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/00525815296/that-didnt-take-long-spotify-sued-patent-infringement-just-weeks-after-entering-us-market.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110728/00525815296/that-didnt-take-long-spotify-sued-patent-infringement-just-weeks-after-entering-us-market.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Can Innovation Through Business 'Solve' Issues That Legal Repression Can't?</title>
<dc:creator>Bas Grasmayer</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ If you follow music industry news, you probably didn't miss Spotify's launch in the US last week. Prior to this launch, a Swedish music executive was interviewed about <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/07/top-swedish-music-execs-shares-what-us-can-expect-from-spotify-launch.html">what to expect when Spotify launches in the US</a>. One part of the interview stood out in particular: <blockquote> <em>[Spotify] has eradicated music piracy almost on its own. Sweden was the home of  Pirate Bay. They even had their own political party and made the prime  minister in national television declare &quot;Off (sic) course the youth shall be  able to download music for free&quot;. <br /><br /> Three years later, The Pirate  Bay is not mentioned by anyone anymore. Spotify is, on the other hand,  mentioned by almost everyone - including the old Pirate bay fans. <br /><br /> This  did not happen because some new radical law or brutal police force were  implemented. Neither because a confused prime minister changed his mind  again and embraced the music industry. It all happened simply because  the users found a new legal service that they actually thought was much  better than the old Piracy one.</em> </blockquote> What is interesting here is that innovation through business helped reduce 'unauthorized consumption' of music, while many a record label exec prefers to invest in legal changes that have not really made all that much impact so far. Personally, I think the recording industry missed a huge opportunity 10 to 15 years ago. Instead of using the legal system to fight Napster and the wave of peer-to-peer filesharing that followed, innovation through business would probably have been more worthwhile (and a lot less costly). Besides that, legal changes on the scale some of the folks in the recording industry envision would create a market that's even more broken than it already is, preventing other business (<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/10554513894/record-labels-pressure-spotify-into-being-worse-driving-users-back-to-piracy.shtml">like Spotify</a>) from driving innovation and competing in their industry, and would be threatening to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/04225614545/un-report-human-rights-condemns-three-strikes-as-civil-rights-violation.shtml">civil rights</a> (the rights to free speech and privacy in particular). Enforcing the interests of one group or industry by sacrificing innovation and civil rights surely must be one of the most undesirable things we as a society face today. <br /><br /> Even though Spotify displays a good model for success, it does have its drawbacks. One rights organization highlights an important issue with Spotify: <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/07/spotifys-u-s-launch-highlights-good-bad-and">the inability to port data</a>. <blockquote> <em>Because streaming customers do not own their music, they cannot take it  with them. Should they decide to try another service (or if a service  goes under), users should be able to easily export titles of songs in  playlists they created or a list of favorite music, etc. Users should  also be able to choose independent add-ons that make the service more  valuable, such as alternative means of organizing their music  &quot;collections.&quot;  Without this kind of functionality, users are going to  be disappointed, and we are unlikely to see the real competition that  helps drive innovation.</em> </blockquote> The content industry is a volatile industry. Only two years ago <a href="http://sparxoo.com/2009/12/11/did-myspace-botch-handling-of-imeem-acquisition/">MySpace bought imeem (the first platform in the US licensed by all 4 major labels) and shut it down</a> the same day, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100104/1708157604.shtml">replacing all playlists with ads</a>. For this reason owning copies of music, whether through legal downloads or unauthorized alternatives, will stay attractive. As a matter of fact, according to the music exec mentioned above, digital sales in Sweden were up 17% last year compared to a mere 3% growth in the US. <br /><br /> We're only just entering the digital age. Blocking innovation with legislation and lawsuits is a shortsighted approach, especially with innovation proving to solve issues that legal changes can't. If the recording industry doesn't live up to their responsibility to innovate and service their fans, others will. <br /><br /> That's how business works.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/08554415146/can-innovation-through-business-solve-issues-that-legal-repression-cant.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/08554415146/can-innovation-through-business-solve-issues-that-legal-repression-cant.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/08554415146/can-innovation-through-business-solve-issues-that-legal-repression-cant.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:39:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Record Labels, Once Again, Freak Out About Anyone Making Their Content Useful</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Another day, another story of the major labels freaking out that someone (for free!) has helped make their content more useful and valuable.  About a week ago, I was one of the folks who <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/mmasnick/status/74085610230525953">passed along</a> the news (via Twitter) of a new service called <a href="http://www.youtify.com/" target="_blank">Youtify</a>, which took the YouTube API and built a neat media player on top of YouTube that <i>looked</i> quite a bit like Spotify, the popular music service that's not yet available in the US.  The concept really isn't all that new.  <a href="http://www.muziic.com/" target="_blank">Muziic</a> has been around for years, and has a YouTube-based media player, and <a href="http://player.tuberadio.fm/tuberadio.asp" target="_blank">TubeRadio</a> has a YouTube-based music player that looks just like iTunes.  Honestly, TubeRadio and Youtify are really quite similar, except one uses the iTunes look and feel, and the other uses the Spotify look and feel.
<br /><br />
Either way, it's a pretty useful and neat setup for listening to and discovering new music on YouTube.
<br /><br />
So, of course, the labels have to kill it.  <a href="http://thefuturebuzz.com/" target="_blank">Adam Singer</a> points us to the news that just days after Youtify's launch started spreading... <a href="http://blog.louisgray.com/2011/06/record-labels-yank-videos-from-youtify.html" target="_blank">the major record labels have somehow blocked their music from appearing</a>.  Note that most of this is via Vevo -- the major label-owned service for posting videos to YouTube.  In other words, these are <i>authorized</i> videos that have been uploaded and made available on purpose by the record labels.  And... then the Youtify guys went and made an interface to make it easier to access and consume that music... and the labels/Vevo freak out and block them.
<br /><br />
Because, apparently, that's how the major labels roll.  If something makes the music more enjoyable and more valuable <i>for free</i>, but doesn't "pay" the labels, then too freaking bad.  Is it really any wonder why the major labels are struggling?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/01460814535/record-labels-once-again-freak-out-about-anyone-making-their-content-useful.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/01460814535/record-labels-once-again-freak-out-about-anyone-making-their-content-useful.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/01460814535/record-labels-once-again-freak-out-about-anyone-making-their-content-useful.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:39:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Why Does The Entertainment Industry Seek To Kill Any Innovation That's Helping It Adapt?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The LA Times recently had a good article about <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/12/business/la-fi-ct-hulu-20110412" target="_blank">Hulu's struggles with its corporate parents</a>, the various TV companies.  While Hulu itself has been massively successful, the TV companies are suddenly claiming it's a <i>threat</i> (even though they own it) and are seeking to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110130/01074712886/hulu-owners-looking-to-make-hulu-even-more-useless.shtml">cripple</a> the service in a misguided and shortsighted bid to "protect" their legacy offerings.
<br /><br />
Combine that with our recent story about the record labels <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/10554513894/record-labels-pressure-spotify-into-being-worse-driving-users-back-to-piracy.shtml">crippling Spotify</a> and the Hollywood studios seeking to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110324/17421513618/hollywood-continues-its-plan-to-kill-netflix.shtml">cripple Netflix</a>, and you've got a pattern.  Any time a new service comes along that helps drag the content industries into the present, the industry's hit back by trying to kill off or cripple the golden goose.
<br /><br />
The simplistic answer is that the entertainment industry is all about control, and they freak out about these success stories (that make them money) because they realize they're losing control.  I think it's a little more complex than that, but not too much.  The established entertainment business, for many, many years, has operated under the principle of being <i>the gatekeeper</i> to their industry.  They've (incorrectly) believed that their value and the key to their business is in being the gatekeeper.  But the amazing thing about the internet is that it knocks down fences and walls with ease.
<br /><br />
Gatekeepers don't make much sense.
<br /><br />
If you view yourself as an <i>enabler</i>, then these new services seem great and wonderful and a huge opportunity.  If you see yourself as a <i>gatekeeper</i>, you see these other services as a path to route around your gate.  The <i>mistake</i> is in thinking that the answer is to shut down or limit that alternative.  That's because, the alternatives (generally) are <i>not really gatekeepers themselves</i>.  Of course, to the existing gatekeepers they <i>look</i> like gatekeepers, which leads to this reaction.  But the reality is quite different.  In a world where there are no real walls or fences, you don't need gates, and thus you don't need gatekeepers.
<br /><br />
Instead, you need <i>enablers</i>: the curators, aggregators and filters who help you make sense of the wide open world.  That's what Spotify, Hulu and Netflix all do, in a legal fashion.  But it's also what various unauthorized sites and services do in an often less than legal fashion.  But none of that changes the fact that the gates are no longer needed and the fences are down.  Spotify, Hulu and Netflix aren't the new gatekeepers.  They're compelling enablers who have built the new hotspot that people <i>want</i> to go to, because of the additional value they provide.  Knocking them down doesn't bring back the need for the gates.  Those are gone forever.  It just takes away one of the more useful services -- which actually does pay the copyright holders -- and drives people to the many other (perhaps unauthorized) sources.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110415/01524013905/why-does-entertainment-industry-seek-to-kill-any-innovation-thats-helping-it-adapt.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110415/01524013905/why-does-entertainment-industry-seek-to-kill-any-innovation-thats-helping-it-adapt.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110415/01524013905/why-does-entertainment-industry-seek-to-kill-any-innovation-thats-helping-it-adapt.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>it's-all-about-control</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:11:44 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Record Labels Pressure Spotify Into Being Worse; Driving Users Back To Piracy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've spent a lot of time in Europe, over the past few years, at various music industry events, and one thing has become clear: all sorts of folks tell me that they <i>stopped file sharing</i> once they started using Spotify.  It's uncanny.  It shows, once again, that if you actually offer a <i>good</i> service, you absolutely can compete with file sharing.  But there's no golden goose that the record labels can't kill, and they've been grumbling about Spotify for a while now... despite the fact that Spotify is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/23021911645/if-spotify-is-making-labels-so-much-money-in-europe-why-are-they-still-demanding-crazy-upfronts-in-the-us.shtml">making them more money than iTunes</a>, in countries where it's available.
<br /><br />
However, as we've seen, the entertainment industry has a special talent for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090129/1909293572.shtml">screwing up a good thing</a>, and their latest target is Spotify.  Spotify still hasn't been released in the US, in part because some of the record labels (*cough* Warner Music *cough*) are demanding ridiculous restrictions on users, limiting any "free" parts to make the service a lot less appealing.  Now it appears that the labels have also pressured Spotify <a href="http://www.spotify.com/se/blog/archives/2011/04/14/upcoming-changes-to-spotify-free-open/" target="_blank">into seriously cutting back on their free offer in Europe</a>.
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This will, undoubtedly, drive many of the users, who were <i>making the industry money</i>, back to unauthorized file sharing.  In fact, many of the comments on Spotify's blog post about this say exactly that.  For an industry that keeps claiming stamping out piracy is the number one goal, you would think it would know better than to take away the best tool they've had to compete with file sharing in a while.  Spotify certainly isn't perfect, but it's amazing how quickly the recording industry seeks to destroy anything that starts making them money.  They tried to do it with iTunes as well, but Steve Jobs fought back.  Spotify apparently doesn't have the same clout just yet.
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Really, this is symptomatic of the mentality of many of the bosses in the recording industry.  They do absolutely <i>nothing</i> themselves to innovate.  Instead, they resist and/or sue any innovation that comes along.  Then, when an innovation <i>finally</i> breaks through and works, just as it's starting to really take off, the record label bosses get jealous and start complaining that these innovative services that are <i>making them money</i> are getting too much of the credit (and money) and demand a larger cut, making claims about how the service isn't the thing that's important, it's the music.  Of course, if it were just the music that was important, these innovative services wouldn't be catching on.  The service is important too, and each time the record label bosses overvalue their own music and undervalue the service, they end up killing off innovative offerings and driving users back to file sharing...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/10554513894/record-labels-pressure-spotify-into-being-worse-driving-users-back-to-piracy.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/10554513894/record-labels-pressure-spotify-into-being-worse-driving-users-back-to-piracy.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/10554513894/record-labels-pressure-spotify-into-being-worse-driving-users-back-to-piracy.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:08:54 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If Spotify Is Making Labels So Much Money In Europe, Why Are They Still Demanding Crazy Upfronts In The US?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For a few years now, people have talked about Spotify as the "next great hope" for the recording industry.  For those who haven't seen it, it's effectively an "iTunes-in-the-cloud."  I've played around with it, and it's definitely a hell of a lot nicer than most other things out on the market and the company continues to improve the product and to play around with some interesting <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0047288037.shtml">additional models</a>.  I'm always a bit wary of anything that people think will "save" an industry, and Spotify is no exception.  I think it's nice and useful, but it alone certainly isn't going to be the answer to the recording industry's inability to adapt to a changing marketplace.  That said, one of the more amusing things to watch has been the fight over bringing Spotify to the US.  It's been rumored to be "coming soon" for about a year and a half now and every time there's some rumor about it getting close, there's another rumor about the ridiculous terms and conditions the labels are insisting on to launch it here.  They already have deals in Europe, but apparently, the labels want <i>much</i> better deals in the US.
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The latest rumor says that Spotify is (once again) <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20020947-261.html" target="_blank">closing on deals with the major labels for a US launch</a>, though it's going to involve massive upfront payments to the major labels (don't expect any of that to actually go to the artists).  This has become pretty typical for the majors -- demanding massive cash up-front, which is why so many music-related startups have died an early death.  The startups simply couldn't make enough money to cover those huge upfront fees.  Now, Spotify might be a bit different in that it's raised a ton of money on the strength of its success in Europe and so it probably can handle the cash payment, at least initially.
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But here's the thing that's strange.  Just as the news of these huge upfront payment demands is leaking, Sony and Universal Music are both <a href="http://musically.com/blog/2010/10/28/spotify-reveals-e30m-payout-to-rightsholders-in-2010/" target="_blank">admitting that they're making more from Spotify in Sweden than any other retailer</a> -- including iTunes (which, by the way, sort of puts a dent in Apple's attempt to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101008/04161311334/apple-trash-talking-spotify-as-it-prepares-its-competitor.shtml">spread FUD about Spotify</a> to the labels).
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So, here's the thing: if the labels are making so much money from Spotify in Europe, why have they fought so hard against doing a deal in the US without huge upfronts and/or guarantees?  Part of it may be that the money in Europe has really only ramped up in the past few months, but part of it might just be how the major labels deal with music startups these days -- as seen by various <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100210/1131198110.shtml">quotes</a> from major label bosses that suggest a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081014/0115222536.shtml">jealousy</a> of any other company being successful in the music business <i>even if</i> it helps them succeed as well.  Basically, if another company is successful, these execs seem to think that they must have been given a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081001/0245102424.shtml">bad deal</a>.  It's as if they don't understand how a non-zero sum market works.  They believe if someone else is doing well, they must have been ripped off, so they want to make deals that practically cripple any other company, so that at least they're not doing as badly as those new companies.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/23021911645/if-spotify-is-making-labels-so-much-money-in-europe-why-are-they-still-demanding-crazy-upfronts-in-the-us.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/23021911645/if-spotify-is-making-labels-so-much-money-in-europe-why-are-they-still-demanding-crazy-upfronts-in-the-us.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101028/23021911645/if-spotify-is-making-labels-so-much-money-in-europe-why-are-they-still-demanding-crazy-upfronts-in-the-us.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple Trash Talking Spotify As It Prepares Its Competitor</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's yet another rumor going around that Apple is getting ready to <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6971PS20101008" target="_blank">launch a subscription music service</a>.  That's been rumored for ages, and it would be surprising if the company didn't do it.  In fact, many were surprised that after Apple shut down music locker Lala that it didn't immediately launch a cloud based subscription offering.  But, perhaps more interesting, is the fact that Apple has also been spending time <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20018971-261.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20" target="_blank">trash-talking Spotify to music industry execs</a>.  We had mentioned, when Apple shut down Lala, that it would be a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/1436149265.shtml">good time</a> for Spotify to figure out how to launch in the US.  The company has been trying for quite some time now, and the record label demands are basically impossible to meet.  And it sounds like Apple is encouraging that.  As Greg Sandoval reports:
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In meetings in Los Angeles recently, Apple executives told their music industry counterparts that they had serious doubts about whether Spotify's business model could ever generate significant revenues or profits, according to two sources with knowledge of the discussions.
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But Apple executives worried about the effects of a free music service might have on the rest of the market. They noted that it's tough to sell something that someone else is giving away, the sources said. One industry insider said it is only logical that if Spotify were allowed to launch a free-music service here, at a time when Nielsen recently reported that the growth of digital sales has flattened out, it could eat into the businesses of proven revenue-producers like Apple and Amazon. 
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Ah, the amazing ridiculousness of confused short-term thinking.  While I also have questions about Spotify's ability to generate significant revenues long-term, the recording industry is making a huge mistake if it buys into the idea that Spotify is likely to cannibalize digital sales.  If you look at reports in places where Spotify is widely available, such as Sweden and the UK, the reports suggest that what Spotify <i>actually</i> cannibalizes is <i>unauthorized downloading</i>.  Yes, there are a bunch of reports that suggest Spotify gets people away from The Pirate Bay and into a system that at least gets the labels <i>some</i> money.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101008/04161311334/apple-trash-talking-spotify-as-it-prepares-its-competitor.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101008/04161311334/apple-trash-talking-spotify-as-it-prepares-its-competitor.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101008/04161311334/apple-trash-talking-spotify-as-it-prepares-its-competitor.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:16:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple Bought Lala To Shut It Down?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've been a pretty <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081021/0135062602.shtml">harsh critic</a> of Lala over the years.  The company was long on hype and short on substance with its ever changing business model.  First it was a CD swapping service.  Then it was a free streaming music service.  Then it was an iTunes-in-the-cloud.  Still, the final product was decent, and with a bit of work could take on Spotify in the market.  When Apple swooped in and bought Lala late last year, many people <a href="http://www.fistfulayen.com/blog/?p=562" target="_blank">got excited</a> over the possibility of Apple creating its own streaming music service that really could be seamless.
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Instead, it looks like Apple <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/04/30/1354246/Apple-To-Shut-Down-Lala-On-May-31?from=twitter" target="_blank">bought Lala to shut it down</a>.  Just five months or so after purchasing it, Apple has announced that Lala will be closing at the end of May, pissing off lots of users.  Now, it's entirely possible (or even <i>likely</i>) that Apple is timing the shutdown with a launch of a totally new streaming iTunes-in-the-cloud type service, but it does seem weird to buy a company and shut it down so quickly, and raises questions of whether or not the purchase was really about building out Apple's offerings, or about shutting down a nascent competitor just before Apple launched its own version.  Also, if the plan is to launch its own version, why "shut down" Lala?  Why not just transfer them over to the new service?
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In the meantime, Spotify still hasn't launched in the US, but you would think that now might be a good time to step in and sign up disgruntled Lala listeners -- before Apple really enters the market...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/1436149265.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/1436149265.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/1436149265.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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