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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:11:58 PDT</pubDate>
<title>USPTO Issues Final Rejection Of Apple's Rubberbanding Patent, Which Were Among Those The Jury Said Samsung Infringed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130402/18313822553/uspto-issues-final-rejection-apples-rubberbanding-patent-which-were-among-those-jury-said-samsung-infringed.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've argued repeatedly how silly it is for courts to move forward with cases over patent infringement while the USPTO is reviewing those same patents.  Considering just how often patent re-exams <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/01045920068/why-do-we-assume-patents-are-valid-when-patent-offices-own-numbers-show-they-get-things-wrong-all-time.shtml">lead to changes</a> in the patents (including rejecting key claims), moving forward before the USPTO has ruled is kind of silly.  It's guaranteed to lead to bad rulings.  The latest is that the USPTO has <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57577405-37/uspto-reaffirms-invalidation-of-apple-patent-in-samsung-suit/" target="_blank">issued a "final" rejection of Apple's "rubberbanding" patent</a> (<a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=7,469,381.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,469,381&#038;RS=PN/7,469,381" target="_blank">US Patent 7,469,381</a>), which was one of the patents at issue in the Samsung Apple patent fight, and which the jury said Samsung infringed.  In fact, the specific claim (19) that Samsung was said to have infringed was rejected by the USPTO.
<br /><br />
We had noted a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121023/11134820802/oh-sure-now-patent-office-realizes-apples-rubberbanding-patent-is-both-obvious-not-new.shtml">non-final rejection</a> last fall, and now the USPTO has reiterated that with a final rejection.  Of course, even "final rejection" is a bit of a misnomer, since Apple can (and probably will) still appeal to the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB).  Still, given the significant doubt over the quality of the patent, it seems crazy to assume that it was valid as part of the lawsuit.
<br /><br />
Also, in the meantime, if we're going to grant massively powerful, technology-landscape-changing patents to companies, is it really so much to ask that the USPTO not get it wrong so damn often?  The fact that, on second review, they suddenly realize "oops, that was a mistake!" seems like the kind of thing that we should be worried about, given just how much power there is in a single bad patent.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130402/18313822553/uspto-issues-final-rejection-apples-rubberbanding-patent-which-were-among-those-jury-said-samsung-infringed.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130402/18313822553/uspto-issues-final-rejection-apples-rubberbanding-patent-which-were-among-those-jury-said-samsung-infringed.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130402/18313822553/uspto-issues-final-rejection-apples-rubberbanding-patent-which-were-among-those-jury-said-samsung-infringed.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>oops</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 4 Mar 2013 03:28:30 PST</pubDate>
<title>Upon Further Review... Judge Realizes The Jury In Apple/Samsung Case Screwed Up</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130301/18133122175/upon-further-review-judge-realizes-jury-applesamsung-case-screwed-up.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ After Judge Lucy Koh's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130130/00544821821/onto-appeal-as-judge-basically-keeps-everything-as-is-applesamsung-patent-dispute.shtml">ruling</a> at the end of January, it appeared that she was <i>not</i> going to delve into the jury's efforts, despite many concerns that the jury clearly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml">did not read</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml">did not understand</a> the jury instructions.  However, on Friday, Koh came back and <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130301161659602" target="_blank">explicitly called out the jury for not following the rules</a>, and cut the initial award by 45% (or about $450 million).
<br /><br />
The key issue: the jury instructions were explicit that the jury not award Apple based on <i>Samsung's profits</i> for any <i>utility</i> patent infringements.  But, in looking through the awards, it became clear that this was <i>exactly</i> what the jury did.  Note that all of this came about in response to Apple's attempt to <i>increase</i> the award above $1 billion -- and, as a result, the reward has now been massively reduced.
<blockquote><i>
Apple&#8217;s motion for an increase in the jury&#8217;s damages award is DENIED. The Court declines to determine the amount of prejudgment interest or supplemental damages until after the appeals in this case are resolved.
<br /><br />
Because the Court has identified an impermissible legal theory on which the jury based its award, and cannot reasonably calculate the amount of excess while effectuating the intent of the jury, the Court hereby ORDERS a new trial on damages for the following products: Galaxy Prevail, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Galaxy SII AT&#038;T, Captivate, Continuum, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Exhibit 4G, Galaxy Tab, Nexus S 4G, Replenish, and Transform. This amounts to $450,514,650 being stricken from the jury&#8217;s award. The parties are encouraged to seek appellate review of this Order before any new trial.
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And yes, the judge clearly called out the jury:
<blockquote><i>
... it is apparent that the jury failed to follow the Court&#8217;s instructions on the law, and awarded damages based on a legally impermissible theory. This award cannot stand.
</i></blockquote>
Either way, this is far, far, far from over.  There needs to be a new trial just on damages and there are the various appeals.  Stay tuned, because unless the two companies settle (and they've shown little inclination on that front), we've still got a few more years of this mess.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130301/18133122175/upon-further-review-judge-realizes-jury-applesamsung-case-screwed-up.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130301/18133122175/upon-further-review-judge-realizes-jury-applesamsung-case-screwed-up.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130301/18133122175/upon-further-review-judge-realizes-jury-applesamsung-case-screwed-up.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>and-so-this-continues</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:33:39 PST</pubDate>
<title>One Of The Funniest S#*$r B$@l Ads You'll See This Year Makes Fun Of NFL Trademarks</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It&#39;s almost that time of year again, when many of us lesser beings will gather together to watch super-human men on all manner of PEDs and <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130130/ray-lewis-deer-antler-spray/?sct=uk_t2_a8">deer antler urine</a> sprays smack each other around while an oblong leather ball sits somewhere in the background. We'll leap for the pizza and chili like salmon during mating season while, between whistles, obligatory <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120206/10505917670/nfl-issues-takedown-chrysler-super-bowl-commercial.shtml">commercials</a> with Avatar-like production budgets glow at us. That's right sports fans, it's [editor redacted] time!<br />
<br />
Wait, hey! What the hell? I said it's [editor redacted] time! Oh, come on. I can't say [editor redacted]? Fine, what about a euphemism, like [editor redacted]? No, can't say that either? Maybe [editor redacted]? Damn it, this is <i>stupid</i>. I'm talking about something that rhymes with "Pooper Hole" (heh, got you, editor!).<br />
<br />
Fortunately for our entertainment sensibilities, Samsung decided this year to combine a distaste for trademark stupidity and our concept of advertising being content in this gem of a spot.
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<span style="font-size:10px;">Pictured: million dollar passive aggression</span></p>
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Yes, Samsung has decided to do a game-that-shan't-be-named commercial making fun of how the NFL is overly aggressive with their trademarks. I'd call Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd's delivery "brilliant", but that'd be like referring to Natalie Portman as "mildly attractive", and even I have some damned sense, people. The NFL likes to toss around a great deal of words and pretend like they're true even when <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120202/04205917638/hey-advertisers-stop-believing-nfls-lies-about-trademark-law-call-super-bowl-super-bowl.shtml">they're not</a>, especially when it comes to trademarks. This spot uses the absurdity of it all to highlight how aggressive they are. Maybe it will even open up an eye or two to the silliness of the ever-growing <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.techdirt.com/blog/%3Ftag%3Dpermission%2Bculture&sa=U&ei=xdMKUcbBA8PfrAG1joGIBQ&ved=0CA0QFjAC&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHIHZ2SZRlPxm2fbp8Gh9s2cmtgNw">permission culture</a>.
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<slash:department>big-game-or-whatever</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:59:34 PST</pubDate>
<title>On To The Appeal... As Judge Basically Keeps Everything As Is In Apple/Samsung Patent Dispute</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This probably isn't a huge surprise, but Judge Lucy Koh has basically decided <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2013013000132643" target="_blank">not to do anything at all</a> about the various attempts by both Samsung and Apple to change the overall impact of the initial jury ruling.  That is, she rejected Samsung's call for a new trial or to overturn the jury's findings.  She also rejected Samsung's attempt to invalidate some of the patents.  On Apple's side, she rejected Apple's request to pump up the award amount for "willful" infringement, claiming that there's no evidence that Samsung's actions were willful, since it showed evidence of why it really believed that there was prior art invalidating Apple's key patents.  Oh yeah, and then there's this lovely sentence:
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Given that Apple has not clearly shown how it has in fact been undercompensated for the losses it has suffered due to Samsung&#8217;s dilution of its trade dress, this Court, in its discretion, does not find a damages enhancement to be appropriate.
</i></blockquote>
To paraphrase: "the jury basically handed you a billion dollars, and you're <i>still</i> complaining?!?"  All of this, of course, was just the appetizer.  Now we move on to the appeals process, meaning we've probably got a few more years of this to deal with, unless the two sides decide to shut up and settle.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130130/00544821821/onto-appeal-as-judge-basically-keeps-everything-as-is-applesamsung-patent-dispute.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130130/00544821821/onto-appeal-as-judge-basically-keeps-everything-as-is-applesamsung-patent-dispute.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130130/00544821821/onto-appeal-as-judge-basically-keeps-everything-as-is-applesamsung-patent-dispute.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:05:03 PST</pubDate>
<title>Here We Go Again: Apple's Pinch-To-Zoom Patent Rejected On Re-Exam</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've talked in the past how the US Patent Office is really bad at getting it right with patents.  This is supported by the fact that the <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/01045920068/why-do-we-assume-patents-are-valid-when-patent-offices-own-numbers-show-they-get-things-wrong-all-time.shtml">vast majority</a> of patents that are presented for a post-grant re-exam have some or all of their claims changed or rejected.  That spells major trouble for anyone who believes that patents accurately tell the market what is allowed and what is not -- when the USPTO doesn't even seem to know itself.  Even more troubling is when courts make rulings over patents while they're still being re-examined, as the ruling itself may depend on the validity of that patent.  This has gone on for years.  For example, in one of the most famous patent trolling cases, RIM paid out $612.5 million to NTP, even as the USPTO was in the process of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060222/1155242.shtml">rejecting</a> those patents.
<br /><br />
The latest news is that, upon re-exam, the Patent Office has now <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57560112-37/key-apple-patent-used-against-samsung-under-fire/" target="_blank">rejected <b>all</b> 21 claims</a> in Apple's infamous "pinch to zoom" <a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US7844915" target="_blank">7,844,915 patent</a>.  Apple and patent enthusiasts will rightly point out that this is just the first step in the process -- Apple still can and will appeal, and it's very likely that the Patent Office will eventually allow some (perhaps modified) form of the patent to live on.  However, since that is one of the patents involved in the Apple/Samsung patent fight, at best this creates even more confusion, since no one knows what that patent will eventually look like.  This makes the problem of defining the "boundaries" of what a patent covers even more ridiculous.  We already know that so many patents are written broadly, and in a somewhat indecipherable manner, such that they can be applied broadly.  But when the boundaries are <i>also</i> subject to the whim of whoever's desk it lands on, it suggests a real problem with the system.  We shouldn't be handing out massive monopolies, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, based on the arbitrary judgment of some random patent examiner, when it appears that there is no objective standard at all, but rather a series of (historically bad) guesses.  That's no way to build an innovative economy.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/17584521445/here-we-go-again-apples-pinch-to-zoom-patent-rejected-re-exam.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/17584521445/here-we-go-again-apples-pinch-to-zoom-patent-rejected-re-exam.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/17584521445/here-we-go-again-apples-pinch-to-zoom-patent-rejected-re-exam.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>of-course-it-was</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:02:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Smart TV Exploit Means Hackers Can Watch You Watch TV</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember all the hubbub (now there&#39;s a word I never thought I'd use; thanks a lot, aging process) over Comcast's kind of, maybe plan to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080320/171005601.shtml">spy on</a> subscribers through their cable box as they watch TV, fold their laundry, or engage in coitus? There was quite an outcry at the time, even as Comcast said that the plan was only to have the cameras be able to recognize when different types or numbers of people were watching the tube. People just didn't feel comfortable with corporations being able to spy on them. As a result, Comcast backed away from the plan -- the people had defeated the corporation.<br />
<br />
All, apparently, so that hackers could spy on them instead. At least, that's what some reports are saying about <a href="http://securityledger.com/security-hole-in-samsung-smart-tvs-could-allow-remote-spying/">Samsung Smart TVs and an exploit that would allow hackers</a> to snatch social media credentials, access any files or devices connected to the smart TV...oh, and to use the built in cameras to spy the hell out of people as they do whatever they do while watching television.
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<i>In an e-mail exchange with Security Ledger, the Malta-based firm said that the previously unknown ("zero day") hole affects Samsung Smart TVs running the latest version of the company's Linux-based firmware. It could give an attacker the ability to access any file available on the remote device, as well as external devices (such as USB drives) connected to the TV. And, in a Orwellian twist, the hole could be used to access cameras and microphones attached to the Smart TVs, giving remote attacker the ability to spy on those viewing a compromised set.</i></blockquote>
The group that reportedly discovered the vulnerability, ReVuln, proudly stated that they would not publish any information about what they'd uncovered except to paying subscribers because <i>screw everyone else </i>(not an actual quote). They also have a company policy, apparently, that would prevent them from working with Samsung directly on a fix or even to disclose the hole, leading me to reach the logical conclusion that Dr. Evil is apparently running that company.
<br /><br />
Even more fun, thanks to how Samsung designed the product, chances are any fix that could be produced would be difficult to implement.
<blockquote>
<i>Currently, the Smart TVs offer no native security features, such as a firewall, user authentication or application whitelisting. More critically: there is no independent software update capability, meaning that, barring a firmware update from Samsung, the exploitable hole can't be patched without "voiding the device's warranty and using other exploits," ReVuln said.</i>
<br /><br />
<i>The company posted a video of an attack on a Samsung TV LED 3D Smart TV online. It shows an attacker gaining shell access to the TV, copying the contents of its hard drive to an external device and mounting them on a local drive, providing access to photos, documents and other content. ReVuln said an attacker would also be able to lift credentials from any social networks or other online services accessed from the device.</i>
</blockquote>
In other words, customers get to wait around until Samsung can figure this thing out on their own, since ReVuln won't help them out by company policy, or risk voiding their warranty on their smart TV that has a complete lack of security features. Nicely done, everyone involved.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121212/10482321363/smart-tv-exploit-means-hackers-can-watch-you-watch-tv.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121212/10482321363/smart-tv-exploit-means-hackers-can-watch-you-watch-tv.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121212/10482321363/smart-tv-exploit-means-hackers-can-watch-you-watch-tv.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>i-spy-with-my-little-eye</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:57:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Judge: Apple / HTC Patent Agreement Must Be Revealed (Except For Dollar Amount)</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last month, we wrote about Apple and HTC <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20121112/00494121010/htc-apple-settle-patent-dispute-perhaps-tim-cook-realizes-patent-fights-are-waste.shtml">settling</a> their ongoing patent dispute, and the subsequent request by Samsung to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/01181921082/samsung-wants-to-see-details-apples-htc-settlement.shtml">see the details</a>, which were being kept confidential.  It wasn't so much the amount paid that interested Samsung, but which patents were included in the settlement.  That's because, in the Apple/Samsung case, Apple has argued that it would <i>never</i> license some of its patents, and thus there should be an injunction banning the sale of certain Samsung devices.  However, if those same patents are found in the HTC agreement... then Samsung can point out that, not only is Apple lying to the court, but that an injunction should be off the table.  That's because the law suggests injunctions only make sense when there is "irreparable harm."  And if you can just pay up the missed license fees, then it's clearly not "irreparable."
<br /><br />
The court quickly granted Samsung's request and has now gone a step further, saying that <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121204024604685" target="_blank">the agreement itself should be made public</a>, except for pricing and royalty terms.  Bizarrely, it was actually Samsung who sought to have the information about what patents were included under seal -- such that it could see it, but the public could not.  Either way, the judge has made it clear that the patents need to be made public as there's no compelling interest in keeping them secret.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/14072921224/judge-apple-htc-patent-agreement-must-be-revealed-except-dollar-amount.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/14072921224/judge-apple-htc-patent-agreement-must-be-revealed-except-dollar-amount.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/14072921224/judge-apple-htc-patent-agreement-must-be-revealed-except-dollar-amount.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>so-we-shall-see</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:41:45 PST</pubDate>
<title>Samsung Wants To See The Details Of Apple's HTC Settlement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ So, last week we wrote about Apple <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20121112/00494121010/htc-apple-settle-patent-dispute-perhaps-tim-cook-realizes-patent-fights-are-waste.shtml">settling</a> its patent fight with HTC -- though the terms were secret.  It certainly sounded like it wasn't that much money, as HTC seemed to brush off the financial concerns.  That appears to have caught the attention of Samsung's lawyers, who have now <a href="http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/405897/20121117/samsung-goes-after-htc-deal-to-undercut-apple-filing.htm#.UKdTZ4fLQb0" target="_blank">filed a motion asking the court to make Apple reveal the terms of its HTC settlement</a>.  Perhaps more important than the amount, Samsung wants to see if the deal includes all of Apple's patents, since there are some that Apple has been insisting it would never license as part of its argument as to why there needs to be an injunction blocking the sale of Samsung devices, rather than just monetary damages.  It would undermine Apple's case if it then turned around and licensed those patents to HTC.  As the linked article above notes, it would be surprising if HTC agreed to a deal that <i>didn't</i> include those patents.  So the end result of the HTC deal may be that Apple just bargained away some of its ability to get injunctions against Samsung's devices.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/01181921082/samsung-wants-to-see-details-apples-htc-settlement.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/01181921082/samsung-wants-to-see-details-apples-htc-settlement.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/01181921082/samsung-wants-to-see-details-apples-htc-settlement.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:21:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Apple Learns That Suing A Key Supplier May Not Be So Smart; Samsung Jacks Up Prices On Apple</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Apple may be happy it won the first round of its patent fight against Samsung in the US (it's not faring quite so well elsewhere around the globe), but these things have consequences.  Besides being a competitor, Samsung is also a key Apple <i>supplier</i>... and it appears that Samsung is now using that to its advantage, <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsung-hits-apple-with-20-price-hike-report-2012-11-11" target="_blank">jacking up the price on a mobile processor supplied to Apple by 20%</a>.  The report notes that Apple pushed back initially, but after realizing it couldn't find a reasonable replacement, agreed to the new prices.
<blockquote><i>
According to the report, Apple buys all APs used for production of iPhone and iPad from Samsung Electronics with the volume estimated to be 130 million units last year and more than 200 million units this year.
<br /><br />
Samsung Electronics has a long-term contract to supply APs to Apple until 2014, the report added. 
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So even if Samsung has to pay Apple for patent infringement, perhaps it'll be financed by the higher prices on processors Samsung sells Apple.
<br /><br />
Maybe, next time, instead of suing each other, they could just focus on building products people like and letting the market sort the rest out.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121112/11010321021/apple-learns-that-suing-key-supplier-may-not-be-so-smart-samsung-jacks-up-prices-apple.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121112/11010321021/apple-learns-that-suing-key-supplier-may-not-be-so-smart-samsung-jacks-up-prices-apple.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121112/11010321021/apple-learns-that-suing-key-supplier-may-not-be-so-smart-samsung-jacks-up-prices-apple.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:36:09 PST</pubDate>
<title>Judge Will Review If Apple/Samsung Jury Foreman Withheld Pertinent Info</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ After the jury decision in the Apple/Samsung patent fight in the US came out, lots of people pointed to statements from the foreman of the jury, Vel Hogan, that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml">raised</a> serious <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml">questions</a> about Hogan's understanding of the legal issues at play, especially pertaining to prior art.  It also suggested possible bias.  Still, even with all of that, it's very, very difficult to get a jury ruling thrown out on jury misconduct -- but Samsung has unveiled one bit of info that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57547490-37/judge-to-review-whether-foreman-in-apple-v-samsung-hid-info/" target="_blank">Judge Lucy Koh has now agreed to review</a>: whether or not Hogan needed to reveal that he had a legal dispute with Seagate, a former Hogan employer, who is also a major strategic partner of Samsung.  Koh is also asking Apple's lawyers to reveal if they knew this info, which Samsung's lawyers did not.
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At the December 6, 2012 hearing, the Court will consider the questions of whether the jury foreperson concealed information during voir dire, whether any concealed information was material, and whether any concealment constituted misconduct. An assessment of such issues is intertwined with the question of whether and when Apple had a duty to disclose the circumstances and timing of its discovery of information about the foreperson. 
</i></blockquote>
While this is an interesting move, and worth watching, I doubt much will come out of it.  Hogan did admit that he'd had legal issues in the past with a former employer, but no one delved into who or why.
<blockquote><i>
During voir dire, Hogan did disclose that he had been involved in litigation with a former partner when the judge asked him if he had ever been involved in litigation.
<br /><br />
Hogan has noted, in response to Samsung's allegations, that the judge didn't ask for a complete listing of all the lawsuits he had been involved with. 
</i></blockquote>
Again, most of this aspect is just a sideshow to the eventual long series of appeals that will come in this case -- and I doubt that the judge will find misconduct here.  But just the fact that judge is considering it makes it worth following.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:00:02 PST</pubDate>
<title>UK Court Furious At Apple Dragging Its Heels Over Samsung Court Order</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've already covered how Apple got in a bit of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/07573320903/judge-slaps-down-apple-its-bogus-non-apology-apology.shtml">trouble</a> with a judge in the UK for its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml">childish</a> way of posting a statement on its website saying that Samsung <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">didn't copy</a> Apple with its devices.  Apple then tried to claim it would take two weeks to fix, but when the court made it clear that was ridiculous, Apple miraculously figured out <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121104/22383320928/apple-changes-its-uk-samsung-apology-makes-sure-you-have-to-scroll-to-see-it.shtml">a way</a> to comply -- though people quickly pointed out that it used some javascript to push the notice down the page.  Then, without saying anything, Apple <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/11102820973/apple-quietly-removes-need-to-scroll-to-its-samsung-apology.shtml">stopped</a> using that javascript.
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Perhaps it's because Apple is finally realizing that the UK judge <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/09/apple-critcised-samsung-court-order" target="_blank">was really furious at Apple for its handling of this whole situation</a>.  The <a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1430.html" target="_blank">full ruling</a> from the judge that made Apple change the statement has been released, and it shows that the court sees that Apple is dragging its feet and doing everything it can to avoid fully complying.  Furthermore, it directly calls out the original statement for providing "false and misleading" information.  As some UK court observers noted, the judges are clearly not happy with Apple, which seemed to think its standard reality distortion field might work on judges as well as the public.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11005920987/uk-court-furious-apple-dragging-its-heels-over-samsung-court-order.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11005920987/uk-court-furious-apple-dragging-its-heels-over-samsung-court-order.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11005920987/uk-court-furious-apple-dragging-its-heels-over-samsung-court-order.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:46:17 PST</pubDate>
<title>Apple Quietly Removes The Need To Scroll To Its Samsung Apology</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Oh, Apple. As someone who (as yet) has no children, it's been an educational experience watching the company's reaction to a UK judge ordering them to put a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">public apology</a> on their website over false claims that Samsung copied them. From the very beginning, it felt like Apple had gone out of its way to prepare me for raising children. It all started with a little "But, Daaaaad! He's <i>copying</i> me!" Then, once parental admonishment is administered, Apple went into what child psychologists call "pouty-pants mode," with the kind of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml">apology statement</a> that was almost <i>literally</i> playing one parent/country off of another, by which I refer to their referring to the fact that all of the other countries' judges that had ruled opposite of the UK courts. And when the UK courts were less than thrilled with that petulance, they issued <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121104/22383320928/apple-changes-its-uk-samsung-apology-makes-sure-you-have-to-scroll-to-see-it.shtml">another apology</a>, with a link buried at the bottom of the page -- using a little javascript magic to ensure that you wouldn't see it unless you were specifically looking for it. If this isn't a perfect analogy for a young child mumbling a half-hearted apology to his little brother for kicking him, I don't know what is, but I thank Apple for all the lessons in child-rearing they've given me. I feel, having watched the judge in this case, I have a good understanding on how to handle a petulant child.
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seenoevil/349331985/" title="Christmas Crying by dawnhops, on Flickr"><img alt="Christmas Crying" height="400" src="http://farm1.staticflickr.com/149/349331985_52111acc5c.jpg" /></a><br />
<span style="font-size:10px;">"Cry all you want, no dessert until you issue your mother a web-based apology, you little poop-machine" </span>
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<span style="font-size:10px;">Image <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seenoevil/349331985/">source</a>: CC BY 2.0</span>
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The good news is that Apple has quietly removed this digital monument to foot-stomping, <a href="http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/11/08/after-backlash-on-reddit-and-hacker-news-apple-stops-hiding-samsung-apology-on-its-uk-site/">but only after Hacker News and Reddit blew up about it</a>. Apparently, at some point since Monday, amidst the kind of backlash normally reserved for US Senators discussing women's health issues, Apple pretended like the whole thing never happened.
<blockquote>
<i>As pointed out by CNET, the Javascript code in question is still on Apple's site, but it just isn't being used any more. The code ensured that the iPad mini advertisement would take up the whole page; regardless of your resolution, you would't be able to see the statement without scrolling down the page.
<br /><br />
While the code's main purpose wasn't necessarily to hide the apology (Apple has been pushing a more vertically-responsive design on its international sites for a while now), it's very likely that putting the text in question at the bottom of its UK site, where the code would hide it, was on purpose. Apple's decision to stop using the code, in fact, points to this being the case.</i></blockquote>
Way to go, Apple. You managed to get to the place you should have been all along in the most petulant, drawn out way possible. Exactly what I would have done...back when I was six years old.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/11102820973/apple-quietly-removes-need-to-scroll-to-its-samsung-apology.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/11102820973/apple-quietly-removes-need-to-scroll-to-its-samsung-apology.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121108/11102820973/apple-quietly-removes-need-to-scroll-to-its-samsung-apology.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Nov 2012 05:24:37 PST</pubDate>
<title>Apple Changes Its UK Samsung 'Apology,' But Makes Sure You Have To Scroll To See It</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Apparently Apple didn't need <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/07573320903/judge-slaps-down-apple-its-bogus-non-apology-apology.shtml">two weeks</a> to put up a new "apology" statement on its UK website after the first <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml">obnoxious</a> one was deemed not good enough by the UK courts.  As you may recall, Apple was told by the court that it had to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">tell the world</a> that Samsung didn't copy Apple's design on some of its devices, after a judge ruled that Apple's devices were simply much cooler.
<br /><br />
Apple has now <a href="http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/11/03/apple-corrects-inaccurate-samsung-apology-adding-it-to-its-uk-website-front-page-following-judges-order/" target="_blank">put up its new statement</a> and linked to it from its <a href="http://www.apple.com/uk/" target="_blank">UK home page</a> in a large font.  The <a href="http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/" target="_blank">full statement is a lot shorter</a> and doesn't include anything about how "cool" Apple's products are or the other court cases around the world.  It has also admitted that the first statement was "inaccurate and did not comply" with the original court order:
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Of course, it appears that Apple couldn't resist an attempt to continue to be slightly petulant in doing this, though it did so in a way that it hoped the judge wouldn't notice, by <i>hiding it in the javascript</i>.  However, as the eagle eyes at <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4736985" target="_blank">Hacker News</a> and <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/12kcpo/apples_new_clarification_on_samsung_copyright/" target="_blank">Reddit</a> quickly pointed out, Apple had <a href="http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/11/03/apple-hides-samsung-apology-on-its-uk-site-so-it-cant-be-seen-without-scrolling/" target="_blank">added a bit of javascript</a> to make sure that, no matter how big you enlarged the browser window, the link to the apology and the statement about it were below the fold.  That is, there is no way to view that statement without first having to scroll down on the Apple page.
<br /><br />
To be honest, I find it a little silly that the judge is requiring this statement at all.  It seems to be going beyond what's reasonable already (and it seems wrong to require Apple to put a statement on its own website).  Anyone who really cares about this stuff will see the news.  That said, I find Apple's response to this ridiculous and that much more perplexing.  Each attempt to somehow not fully comply with the judge's demand just <i>calls that much more attention</i> to the situation and the fact that Apple lost and Samsung didn't copy it.  If Apple had just complied normally, this story would already be over.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121104/22383320928/apple-changes-its-uk-samsung-apology-makes-sure-you-have-to-scroll-to-see-it.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121104/22383320928/apple-changes-its-uk-samsung-apology-makes-sure-you-have-to-scroll-to-see-it.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121104/22383320928/apple-changes-its-uk-samsung-apology-makes-sure-you-have-to-scroll-to-see-it.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Judge Slaps Down Apple For Its Bogus Non-Apology Apology</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week we noted that Apple had put up a rather <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml">petulant non-apology apology</a> in response to the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">UK court order</a> requiring it to advertise to the world that Samsung didn't copy Apple in making its devices.  Many people wondered how the court would react to Apple's attempt... and the answer is <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/01/apple-samsung-statement" target="_blank">that the court is not pleased</a> (and is further displeased by Apple's claim that it needs two weeks to come up with something better):
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At a hearing in the court in London on Thursday morning, the judge told Apple that it had to change the wording of the statement within 48 hours, carry it on its home page, and use at least 11-point font.
<br /><br />
Apple tried to argue that it would take at least 14 days to put a corrective statement on the site &#8211; a claim that one judge said he "cannot believe".
</i></blockquote>
The full quote from the judge was, apparently:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;I would like to see the head of Apple make an affidavit setting out the technical difficulties which means Apple can&#8217;t put this on.  I just can&#8217;t believe the instructions you&#8217;ve been given. This is Apple. They cannot put something on their website?&#8221; 
</i></blockquote>
Another report shows that the judge reviewing this made his views of Apple's notice <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-01/apple-ordered-to-change-notice-in-u-k-samsung-case.html" target="_blank">abundantly clear</a>:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;I&#8217;m at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this,&#8221; Judge Robin Jacob said today. &#8220;That is a plain breach of the order.&#8221; 
</i></blockquote>
Apparently, the London appeals courts have some sort of antidote to the standard Apple reality distortion field.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/07573320903/judge-slaps-down-apple-its-bogus-non-apology-apology.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/07573320903/judge-slaps-down-apple-its-bogus-non-apology-apology.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/07573320903/judge-slaps-down-apple-its-bogus-non-apology-apology.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:37:49 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple Publishes Petulant Non-Apology Apology To Samsung</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As a UK court recently <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">ruled</a>, Apple's <a href="http://www.apple.com/uk/?cid=oas-emeia-domains-apple.co.uk" target="_blank">UK website</a> is required to post a notice about the court ruling that Samsung didn't copy Apple's design with its devices.  Apple has now <a href="http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/" target="_blank">complied</a> with a tiny link in the page footer:
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The notice itself is amusing in its somewhat passive aggressive tone.  It first notes the court ruling, and then explains:
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In the ruling, the judge made several important points comparing the designs of the Apple and Samsung products: 
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What kind of important points?  Well, all the ones about how Apple's products are awesome, while Samsung's... not so much.
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<p>"The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way&nbsp;out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the&nbsp;sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product.&nbsp;It is a cool design."</p>
			
			<p>"The informed user's overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the&nbsp;Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the&nbsp;same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool."</p>
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And then... it reminds you that other countries have ruled completely otherwise:
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However, in a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design. A U.S. jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple's design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc. So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple's far more popular iPad.
</i></blockquote>
In other words, it's the petulant Apple "complying" with the UK judge, while at the same time making sure to add a "but, but, but... the judge is really wrong -- other than the part where he likes our design."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121026/02262320852/apple-publishes-petulant-non-apology-apology-to-samsung.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:39:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Oh Sure, Now The Patent Office Realizes Apple's 'Rubberbanding' Patent Is Both Obvious And Not New</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've expressed concerns in the past about the crappy job that the USPTO does in approving patents, when it's clear that, the majority of times that the USPTO is asked to go back and double check its work, it is forced to <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/01045920068/why-do-we-assume-patents-are-valid-when-patent-offices-own-numbers-show-they-get-things-wrong-all-time.shtml">admit it was wrong</a>.  This happens quite frequently in high profile patents used in lawsuits as well.  And while some judges are willing to wait for the USPTO to admit its errors, too often the courts just rush through, assuming that the patent must be perfectly valid.  Given all that, it's worth noting that the USPTO has now <a href="http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/10/patent-office-tentatively-invalidates.html" target="_blank">issued a non-final rejection of all claims</a> in Apple's infamously ridiculous "rubberbanding" patent, over the ability for a page to "bounce back" if you scroll to the edge.  The key claim in the patent was rejected for failing <i>both</i> standards for patentability.  That is, the court found it to be both <i>obvious</i> and <i>not new</i>.  Of course, if they had asked anyone who knew anything about programming, they could have told you that ages ago.
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It is important, of course, to note that this is a "non-final" rejection -- and even "final rejections" often are not really "final."  Apple can, and will, go back to the USPTO and plead its case, and it's not uncommon for "non-final" rejections to go back in the other direction eventually.  Of course, all that really does show is how arbitrary and silly the patent system is, in which we award many millions of dollars to patent holders based on the whims of a small group of patent examiners who can't keep their story straight.  Either way, this patent was one of the ones that the jury had ruled Samsung infringed upon, so the judge in the case may need to revisit that part of the ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121023/11134820802/oh-sure-now-patent-office-realizes-apples-rubberbanding-patent-is-both-obvious-not-new.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121023/11134820802/oh-sure-now-patent-office-realizes-apples-rubberbanding-patent-is-both-obvious-not-new.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121023/11134820802/oh-sure-now-patent-office-realizes-apples-rubberbanding-patent-is-both-obvious-not-new.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:05:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Yes, Apple, You Have To Tell The UK Public That Samsung Didn't Copy You</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While Apple won its big case (so far) against Samsung in the US, over in the UK it was the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120709/11502919632/uk-judge-samsung-wins-over-apple-patent-dispute-because-its-tablet-isnt-as-cool-as-ipad.shtml">exact opposite</a>, with the judge telling Apple that it needed to run advertisements saying that Samsung didn't copy Apple's products.  The silver lining for Apple: part of the judge's reasoning was that Samsung's products just weren't "cool," while Apple's were.  Either way, Apple <a href="http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/apple-battles-to-avoid-embarrassing-ads-admitting-samsung-did-not-copy-ipad-3243595.html" target="_blank">fought back</a> and argued that it shouldn't have to advertise that Samsung didn't copy Apple -- and, in fact, tried again to convince the court that, no, really, of course Samsung copied it.
<br /><br />
It appears that strategy has failed, as the judges handling the appeal have <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19989750" target="_blank">refused to overturn the original ruling</a>, saying that it was important that Apple clear up confusion that might occur among the public:
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"The acknowledgment must come from the horse's mouth," they said. "Nothing short of that will be sure to do the job completely."
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While I find the ruling amusing, I'm really not sure that it makes sense.  I find Apple's attacks on Samsung silly and counterproductive, but forcing it to advertise that Samsung didn't copy Apple may go too far in compelling a company to say things.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13343920753/yes-apple-you-have-to-tell-uk-public-that-samsung-didnt-copy-you.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:46:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>NY Times Takes On Our Broken Patent System</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, this is nice to see.  Charles Duhigg and Steve Lohr at the NY Times have a nice long piece <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/08/technology/patent-wars-among-tech-giants-can-stifle-competition.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&pagewanted=print" target="_blank">highlighting just how broken the patent system is today</a>.  It kicks off with an anecdote of the type of story we hear about <i>all the time</i>: where a startup innovator gets threatened by a patent holder (in this case, not a troll, but a larger company), and the lawsuit effectively kills the startup.  Even though it actually won in court, after spending an astounding $3 million fighting the lawsuit, the company was basically out of money... and was forced to sell itself to the company who had sued it, knowing that it still faced another five patent lawsuits.  That's not a unique story.  The company who sued, Nuance, defended its actions in the articles with this line of pure crap:
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&#8220;Our responsibility is to follow the law,&#8221; said Lee Patch, a vice president at Nuance. &#8220;That&#8217;s what we do. It&#8217;s not our fault if some people don&#8217;t like the system.&#8221;
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No.  "Following the law" does not include shaking down competitors in your space, taking them to the brink of bankruptcy and then getting them to sell to you at firesale prices.
<br /><br />
Perhaps more interesting in the article is the talk about Apple's awakening on how powerful patents could be used as a weapon against others, all stemming from its legal fight with Creative Technologies over a ridiculously broad patent for a digital music player.  Rather than fight Creative, Apple just <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060823/152436.shtml">paid the company</a> $100 million to go away.  At the time, we wrote about how unfortunate it was that the company who succeeded in the market basically had to pay off the company who couldn't compete.  But what we didn't realize was that it also turned Apple into a vociferous patent-hungry beast.  The NY Times report notes that, right after this, Steve Jobs made it clear to his staff that Apple now needed to "patent everything."
<blockquote><i>
Soon, Apple&#8217;s engineers were asked to participate in monthly &#8220;invention disclosure sessions.&#8221; One day, a group of software engineers met with three patent lawyers, according to a former Apple patent lawyer who was at the meeting.
<br /><br />
The first engineer discussed a piece of software that studied users&#8217; preferences as they browsed the Web.
<br /><br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s a patent,&#8221; a lawyer said, scribbling notes.
<br /><br />
Another engineer described a slight modification to a popular application.
<br /><br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s a patent,&#8221; the lawyer said.
<br /><br />
Another engineer mentioned that his team had streamlined some software.
<br /><br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s another one,&#8221; the lawyer said.
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[....] The disclosure session had yielded more than a dozen potential patents when an engineer, an Apple veteran, spoke up. &#8220;I would like to decline to participate,&#8221; he said, according to the lawyer who was at the meeting. The engineer explained that he didn&#8217;t believe companies should be allowed to own basic software concepts.
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Unfortunately, very few companies seem willing to take a stand on this, even as many, many engineers feel the way that last engineer feels.  I spend a lot of time with engineers in Silicon Valley, and I have trouble thinking of any who think the patent system is a good thing.
<br /><br />
Apple's former General Counsel, Nancy Heinen, has a good quote in the article highlighting part of the problem:
<blockquote><i>
"Think of the billions of dollars being flushed down the toilet... When patent lawyers become rock stars, it&#8217;s a bad sign for where an industry is heading,."
</i></blockquote>
It's a very bad sign, but there seems to be little appetite by anyone to do anything to fix the wider problem.  And despite Apple's foray into being a massive patent warrior, attacking tons of other companies, it still hasn't occurred to many people just how broken the system remains.   The NY Times piece spends some time looking at <a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US8086604" target="_blank">Patent 8,086,604</a>, an Apple patent issued last year, which many refer to as the Siri patent, as it covers a "universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system."  Basically, a way to search multiple databases at once.  As a separate <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/07/business/patents.html?smid=tw-share" target="_blank">companion piece</a> to the full article highlights, that patent was rejected 8 times before the examiner was "worn down" and approved it, despite no meaningful changes in the language.
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See all those red dots?  Those are times the patent got rejected.  See the green dot?  That's when it got approved.  The black dot that follows right after the green dot?  That's when Apple started suing with it.  The NY Times even gets patent examiners to admit that their process is more or less random, quoting one admitting that he doesn't really have enough time to "get it right every time" as well as a former patent examiner who notes:
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"If you give the same application to 10 different examiners, you'll get 10 different results..."
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That's not a functioning system.  It's the opposite.  It's a lottery... where the "winners" get to take billions of dollars <i>away</i> from actual innovation.  It's becoming a national disgrace.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/03151820635/ny-times-takes-our-broken-patent-system.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/03151820635/ny-times-takes-our-broken-patent-system.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/03151820635/ny-times-takes-our-broken-patent-system.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:32:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Appeals Court Realizes Samsung Injunction Is For A Patent It Didn't Infringe On, Sends Case Back...</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There continues to be a flurry of activity and motions and such around the Apple/Samsung patent fight, and we're avoiding most of the play-by-play until something "big" happens.  But today there was an interesting ruling from the appeals court, concerning the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120626/21205319498/round-two-apple-succeeds-getting-samsung-tablet-banned-us.shtml">original injunction</a> that Judge Lucy Koh issued, blocking Samsung from selling the Galaxy Tab 10.1 device (which is already a bit obsolete anyway).  She had issued that injunction earlier in the case, before the jury ruled, and that actually has presented something of a problem.  Among the patents that the jury said Samsung <b>did not infringe</b> was the one that Koh relied on to issue her injunction.  Given that, the appeals court has <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/28/us-apple-samsung-ruling-idUSBRE88R11V20120928" target="_blank">sent the injunction back to Koh to reconsider</a>.  Of course, all this really reinforces is the ridiculousness of the patent system today: a judge can assume that an entire product line can be blocked because it's infringing on a particular patent... only to have a jury (which in this case clearly mostly sided with Apple anyway) decide that the patent didn't apply.  When a system comes up with such arbitrary results, it's a sign that the system itself is broken.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120928/11201620542/appeals-court-realizes-samsung-injunction-is-patent-it-didnt-infringe-sends-case-back.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120928/11201620542/appeals-court-realizes-samsung-injunction-is-patent-it-didnt-infringe-sends-case-back.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120928/11201620542/appeals-court-realizes-samsung-injunction-is-patent-it-didnt-infringe-sends-case-back.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:32:34 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Samsung/Apple Jury Foreman's Explanation For Verdict Shows He Doesn't Understand Prior Art</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We had already noted what appeared to be <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml">serious problems</a> with the way the jury decided the verdict in the Apple/Samsung case -- including ignoring prior art, awarding damages on patents not infringed, and an admission of choosing punitive damages, despite instructions that clearly bar such an action.  And it seems to only be getting worse.  Groklaw points out that Velvin Hogan, the controversial jury foreman, went onto Bloomberg TV <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cnQcTC2JY" target="_blank">to defend himself</a>, but only served to <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828225612963" target="_blank">make things worse</a>, by more or less admitting to not understanding how prior art works.
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As was discussed in the previous post, the jury initially got hung up on the question of prior art on the first patent (<a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US7469381" target="_blank">7,469,381</a> -- better known as the "bounceback patent" -- covering how when you scroll and hit the edge of a "page" the screen "bounces back.")  However, in this interview, Hogan explains the "aha!" moment he had that led him to suggest to the jury that the prior art doesn't apply:
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The software on the Apple side could not be placed into the processor on the prior art and vice versa. That means they are not interchangeable. That changed everything right there.
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You can see him say this in the video below, around the 3 minute mark:
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Basically, he's admitting that he doesn't understand how prior art works.  The fact that the software wouldn't run on the same processor is meaningless.  In fact, as Groklaw notes, the jury instructions (which Hogan again insists the jury read) note that to find prior art, you just have to show that the invention has already been done <i>or even explained</i> somewhere else.  That's got nothing to do with whether or not it can run on the same processor.
<br /><br />
Once again, we learn why it's silly to have juries determining patent cases.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:01:12 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple/Samsung Verdict Advertising Samsung As A Viable Alternative To iPads &amp; iPhones</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ From early on in the Apple/Samsung dispute, I pointed out that Apple's reaction really seemed to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110802/03324715355/apple-continues-to-scream-to-world-how-competitive-samsungs-tablet-is-getting-it-banned-australia.shtml">indicate</a> to the world that Samsung's devices were the ones they were most scared of.  And, of course, for those looking for alternatives, it was possible that it would act as really, really good advertising for Samsung.  It's still early, but there's some anecdotal evidence that the verdict only emphasized that fact even more.  Via <a href="http://mashable.com/2012/08/25/verdict-benefit-samsung-apple/" target="_blank">Mashable</a>, we learn of a post from Enrique Guitierrez, who was in a Starbucks over the weekend and <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114476892281222708332/posts/246srfbqg6G" target="_blank">overheard people talking about the verdict</a> -- and they seemed to indicate that it was making them <i>more interested</i> in buying Samsung products:
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Guy: "Wait, so what they're saying is, Samsung is the same as Apple?"<br />
Friend: "I know, right? Makes me think twice about how much I paid for my Mac Book"<br />
Guy: "Seriously"
<br /><br />
Not 10 minutes later, a husband and wife, same newspaper:
<br /><br />
Husband: "... Samsung's iPad is the same as Apple's iPad, and I paid how much for the Apple one? Honey, I told you they were a ripoff", after looking up the Samsung tablet on his iPhone.<br />
Wife: "Oh wow," looking at the screen, "... that's a lot cheaper. Think we can return it?"
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Those aren't the only examples in the post either.  He notes that these people don't understand the details, but they seem to have gotten the message that Samsung makes at least an equivalent product for a lot less money... and that's making them a lot more interested in Samsung.  Once again, it makes you wonder why Apple didn't just focus on competing in the marketplace, where they had a tremendous brand advantage.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120827/07442120167/applesamsung-verdict-advertising-samsung-as-viable-alternative-to-ipads-iphones.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120827/07442120167/applesamsung-verdict-advertising-samsung-as-viable-alternative-to-ipads-iphones.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120827/07442120167/applesamsung-verdict-advertising-samsung-as-viable-alternative-to-ipads-iphones.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:30:37 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple/Samsung Jurors Admit They Finished Quickly By Ignoring Prior Art &amp; Other Key Factors</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Late Friday afternoon, the jury in the Apple/Samsung patent dispute surprised just about everyone by telling the court it had reached a verdict.  Given the number of complex issues it needed to go through, most experts expected it to take well into this week.  According to observers in the courtroom, one of Apple's lawyers was so surprised and unprepared that he had to rush back to court without a suit, and showed up in a polo shirt.  The quickness of the decision certainly resulted in some questions about just how thoroughly the jury reviewed the instructions and then considered each of the approximately 700 questions it needed to answer (initial jury form is embedded below).  As we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120824/16335120154/samsung-routed-apple-patent-fight-told-to-pay-105-billion.shtml">noted in an update to our post</a> on Friday, about half an hour after the ruling was read out -- and long after most of the press stopped paying attention -- the judge announced at least two problems with the ruling, where the jury had awarded damages, despite <i>not finding infringement</i>.
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As we said on Friday, that certainly raised significant questions about how carefully the jury actually reviewed the issues in question.  While some said it could have just been a clerical error in answering all the questions, that appears not to be the case.  Because after the judge instructed the jury to fix the mistakes, they didn't reassign those damages elsewhere, they just wiped them off the slate.  Besides, even if you were to argue it was merely a mistake, that's no excuse.  This "mistake" could have ended up costing millions of dollars.  That's quite a "mistake."
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Over at Groklaw, they're discussing this <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390" target="_blank">and other evidence of jury misconduct</a>.  The awarding of damages for things they found didn't infringe was already pretty bad, but some of the other details highlight how the jury clearly did not read the jury instructions (or bother to comprehend them).
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A <a href="http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/25/us-apple-samsung-juror-idINBRE87O09U20120825" target="_blank">Reuters interview with the jury foreman</a> demonstrates conclusively that the jury ignored the rules.  Foreman Velvin Hogan told Reuters that they wanted to punish Samsung:
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"We wanted to make sure the message we sent was not just a slap on the wrist," Hogan said. "We wanted to make sure it was sufficiently high to be painful, but not unreasonable."
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That sounds nice, except... patent awards are only supposed to be about making the patent holder whole, not about punishing the infringer.  And, in fact, <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120821152214965" target="_blank">the jury instructions</a> clearly stated this:
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The amount of those damages must be adequate to compensate the patent holder for the infringement. A damages award should put the patent holder in approximately the financial position it would have been in had the infringement not occurred, but in no event may the damages award be less than a reasonable royalty. You should keep in mind that the damages you award are meant to compensate the patent holder and not to punish an infringer.
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And yet here's the jury foreman flat out admitting that they decided to use the award amounts to punish Samsung.  Elsewhere, it becomes pretty clear that Hogan was hardly an impartial juror.  He has his own patent, <a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US7352953" target="_blank">7,352,953</a> on "recording and storing video information."  That, by itself, does not automatically make one biased in favor of the system (I know plenty of people with patents who hate the patent system), but he admitted elsewhere that he ended up making decisions based on how he would feel if it was his patent at stake, rather than on what the law actually says -- and then said he needed to rule as if he were speaking out "for all" patent holders.  In an <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-25/apple-samsung-jury-foreman-says-google-e-mail-persuasive.html" target="_blank">an interview with Bloomberg</a>, he made that bias clear:
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&#8220;When I got in this case and I started looking at these patents I considered: &#8216;If this was my patent and I was accused, could I defend it?&#8217;&#8221; Hogan explained. On the night of Aug. 22, after closing arguments, &#8220;a light bulb went on in my head,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I thought, I need to do this for all of them.&#8221; 
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He then told Bloomberg that "he explained his thinking to his fellow jurors" and that seemed to drive the discussion.  An interview with another juror, over at News.com, <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57500358-37/exclusive-apple-samsung-juror-speaks-out/" target="_blank">confirmed that Hogan's views focused the jury</a>, with one juror admitting that they just started ignoring prior art, because that question was too time consuming.  Seriously.
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"It didn't dawn on us [that we agreed that Samsung had infringed] on the first day," Ilagan said. "We were debating heavily, especially about the patents on bounce-back and pinch-to-zoom. Apple said they owned patents, but we were debating about the prior art [about similar technology that Samsung said existed before the iPhone debuted]. [Velvin] Hogan was jury foreman. He had experience. He owned patents himself...so he took us through his experience. After that it was easier. After we debated that first patent -- what was prior art --because we had a hard time believing there was no prior art."
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"In fact we skipped that one," Ilagan continued, "so we could go on faster. It was bogging us down." 
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Yeah.  Read that sucker again.  The jury instructions are again clear that the jury needs to consider the prior art, but according to this juror, Manuel Ilagan, after foreman Hogan talked about his own experience with patents, they decided that prior art was "bogging us down" and they might as well "skip" it.
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In the long run, the jury verdict probably won't matter much, because this case would have been appealed no matter what.  But these kinds of stories certainly give Samsung plenty of fodder to ask the judge to toss out the jury verdict already.  It also raises questions, yet again, about why we allow juries on patent trials.  This has been a big problem for a long time and the results here only serve to emphasize that fact.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Life Imitates Conan O'Brien As Samsung 'Opens Apple Store'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Just a few weeks ago, Conan O'Brien did a satire video about the Samsung/Apple lawsuit, in which someone pretending to be a Samsung VP "defended" the company against charges of copying Apple, but everything he did, obviously, made it look like Samsung was copying Apple:
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In that, there's an amusing part, where the "VP" says "Don't believe me? Then come to our retail stores where you can talk more about our products with a 'Samsung Smart Guy.'"
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Truth, it seems, often matches fiction.  Down in Australia, Samsung has now <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/store-wars-samsung-apple-gadgets-at-10-paces-20120823-24njn.html" target="_blank">opened its own retail store</a> that bears such an uncanny resemblance to the design of Apple's stores that the always-funny John Paczkowski brilliantly titled his article about it: <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120823/samsung-opens-new-apple-store-in-australia/" target="_blank">Samsung Opens New Apple Store in Australia</a>.  
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Can you tell which picture was from the Conan O'Brien video and which actually came from this store?
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Oh, did we mention that the Samsung store is... <a href="http://sl.farmonline.com.au/news/metro/national/general/store-wars-samsung-apple-gadgets-at-10-paces/2620405.aspx" target="_blank">one block away from an Apple store</a>?  And, sounding almost exactly like the faux Apple VP in the O'Brien video, an <i>actual</i> Samsung VP told a reporter that Apple "didn't even come into the equation" when planning the store.
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I'm firmly of the belief that the whole legal fight between the two companies is silly, and that they should just compete out in the market, but you have to admit that the resemblance here is a bit uncanny.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120824/07423220144/life-imitates-conan-obrien-as-samsung-opens-apple-store.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120824/07423220144/life-imitates-conan-obrien-as-samsung-opens-apple-store.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120824/07423220144/life-imitates-conan-obrien-as-samsung-opens-apple-store.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:38:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Even If Samsung And Apple Copied Every Last Detail From Each Other, Who Cares?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ With the Apple/Samsung case finishing up, James Allworth, over at HBR, has an excellent post wondering <a href="http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/08/who_cares_if_samsung_copied_ap.html" target="_blank">why it matters if one company copies from another</a>?  A few years ago, we wrote about a book that pointed out that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100912/22380510974/why-imitation-gets-a-bad-rap-and-why-companies-need-to-be-more-serious-about-copying.shtml">copying</a> and then innovating on the copies is a perfectly reasonable and important business strategy.  Allworth points to a new book (one I've been looking forward to for a while) by Chris Sprigman and Kal Raustiala (who we've quoted <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&#038;cof=FORID%3A9&#038;ie=ISO-8859-1&#038;q=sprigman">numerous times</a>) called <i>The Knockoff Economy: How Imitation Sparks Innovation</i>.
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He then takes the lessons of that book and applies it to the Apple/Samsung fight, noting that even if we assume they were imitating each other, that seems to have only encouraged further innovation, not less:
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<p> If you go back to the mid-1990s, there was their famous "look and feel" lawsuit <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation">against Microsoft</a>. Apple's case there was eerily similar to the one they're running today: "we innovated in creating the graphical user interface; Microsoft copied us; if our competitors simply copy us, it's impossible for us to keep innovating." Apple ended up losing the case.</p>

<p>But it's what happened next that's really fascinating. </p>

<p>Apple didn't stop innovating at all. Instead: they came out with the iMac. Then OS X ("<a href="http://farm1.staticflickr.com/29/43356340_36deb98522.jpg">Redmond, start your photocopiers</a>"). Then the iPod. Then the iPhone. And now, most recently, the iPad. Given the underlying reason that Apple has been bringing these cases to court was to enable them to continue to innovate, it's hard not to ask: if copying stops innovation, why didn't Apple stop innovating last time they were copied? Being copied didn't stop or slow their ability to innovate at all. If anything, it only seemed to accelerate it. Apple wasn't able to rest on its laurels; to return to profitability, and to take the mantle they hold today of one of the technology industry's largest companies, they had to innovate as fast as they could.</p>
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It's the same story we've been explaining for years.  History and tons of studies have shown over and over and over again that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060118/0256239.shtml"><i>competition drives innovation</i></a>, because innovation is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080103/152737.shtml"><i>an ongoing process</i></a>.  Thus, when others can copy you, that actually accelerates innovation by giving the original incentives to stay ahead in the marketplace, and develop the next great thing.  Research has also shown that it's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1538058817.shtml">not as easy</a> as you think to "just copy" because you only see the superficial aspects to copy, rather than having the deeper understanding of what works and what doesn't that a market leader often gains.
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In fact, when you understand that, you realize that patents can actually slow down innovation by letting a company rest on its laurels, and not have to continue to rapidly innovate.  Other companies can't build on what they did first, and so they don't have the same incentives to continue to advance the market forward.  And the Apple/Samsung fight in the market appears to support that.
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If Apple ends up winning this case against Samsung &#8212; and either stops Samsung from releasing their phones and tablets to the market, or charges them a hefty license fee to do so &#8212; does anyone really believe that the market will suddenly become more innovative, or that devices will suddenly become more affordable? Similarly, if Samsung wins, do you really believe that Apple will suddenly slow its aggressive development of the iPhone and iPad? It's certainly not what happened last time they lost one of these cases.
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Now, if you're with me so far, then I don't think it's a leap to suggest that having these companies duke it out in court over "who might have copied who" is counterproductive. All these lawsuits flying around suggest that everyone is already copying each other, anyway. A better solution? Let's have these companies solely focused on duking it out in the marketplace &#8212; where consumers, not courtrooms, make the decisions about innovation. In such a world, the best defense against copying isn't lawsuits, but rather, to innovate at such a rate that your competition can't copy you fast enough. That, to me, sounds like an ideal situation not just for consumers &#8212; but for the real innovators, too.
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Exactly.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120820/08193020097/even-if-samsung-apple-copied-every-last-detail-each-other-who-cares.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120820/08193020097/even-if-samsung-apple-copied-every-last-detail-each-other-who-cares.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120820/08193020097/even-if-samsung-apple-copied-every-last-detail-each-other-who-cares.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:15:06 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge Suggests Apple Is 'Smoking Crack' With Its Witness List In Samsung Dispute</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While Judge Lucy Koh has been so far favorable to Apple in the Samsung/Apple patent dispute, she clearly got fed up today when Apple tried to add a ton of witnesses at the last minute, telling the company's lawyer that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57494755-37/judge-says-apples-smoking-crack-with-giant-witness-list/" target="_blank">he was wasting the court's time</a> in no uncertain terms:
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"I am not going to be running around trying to get 75 pages of briefing for people who are not going to be testifying," U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh told Apple's lawyer Bill Lee.
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"I mean come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages, (and) unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours," Koh said. 
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She went further too, warning of possible sanctions:
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"If it turns out I went through 75 pages for people who are not going to be called, I am going to think of a proper tax for that," Koh warned. 
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As with many of these big company vs. big company patent disputes, it seems that so much of the focus is just wearing each other down with paperwork.  At least in this case, the judge isn't going to allow it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/12010820076/judge-suggests-apple-is-smoking-crack-with-its-witness-list-samsung-dispute.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/12010820076/judge-suggests-apple-is-smoking-crack-with-its-witness-list-samsung-dispute.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120816/12010820076/judge-suggests-apple-is-smoking-crack-with-its-witness-list-samsung-dispute.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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