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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:11:04 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Fight Over Real Estate Listings Escalates As NeighborCity Counters Copyright Claims With Antitrust Accusations</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back in May we wrote about how some multiple-listing services (MLSs), at the apparent behest of some annoyed real estate agents, were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120521/12223019004/real-estate-listing-services-use-questionable-copyright-claims-attempt-to-block-criticism-agents.shtml">suing the website NeighborCity</a> (technically its parent company American Home Realty Network (AHRN)), claiming copyright infringement.  As we noted at the time, the copyright claims seemed somewhat dubious, as one of the MLSs, Metropolitan Regional Information Systems, Inc. (MRIS), appeared to mostly be claiming copyright over factual information.  There were a few other problems with the lawsuit as well.  But, the real issue was that it seemed quite clear that the lawsuit had little to do with copyright at all, but was about real estate agents not liking the fact that NeighborCity had started rating real estate agents.  AHRN claimed that it suddenly started getting complaints and threat letters (many of which were very similar) right after the National Association of Realtors' annual meeting in November 2011.  There was also an email accidentally sent to AHRN's CEO, by one of the execs from an MLS that filed the lawsuit, which basically admitted they wanted to bring a "world of hurt" to the company.  Of course, making the matter even more complex, is that the National Association of Realtors (NAR) got in trouble for antitrust violations a few years ago.
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Given all that, it's not surprising to see that in AHRN's latest response to the original lawsuits, it's <a href="http://www.inman.com/news/2012/09/26/nar-mris-hit-with-antitrust-suit" target="_blank">filed counterclaims arguing that the actions are antitrust violations</a>.  The fact that NAR offered to cover the legal expenses for the MLSs only makes the situation look worse for NAR -- and advances the suggestion that this is really about realtors being pissed off that someone is holding them accountable.  NeighborCity highlights that soon after the original lawsuits were filed, NAR approved $161,667  in legal fees for these kinds of legal efforts, despite it not actually being a part of the lawsuit.
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Defendants&#8217; coordinated: (a) cease and desist letters to AHRN, (b) refusals to 
deal letters to AHRN; (c) repudiation letters to AHRN, (3) sham lawsuits 
against AHRN and (d) agreement or offer to pay for or contribute to the costs 
of litigation against AHRN by MLSs and real estate brokers, was intended to 
and did have anti-competitive effects on AHRN in the market for real estate 
brokerage services.  Anti-competitive effects include the elimination of price 
competition and price maintenance on brokerage services above market 
levels nationwide, impeding and blocking market entry by AHRN and other
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We're quite used to seeing legacy players in an industry fight innovation and upstart competitors who change the nature of a market, but it's rare to see cases where it seems so incredibly blatant that they're doing this just because they don't like the service in question, rather than via any sort of legitimate copyright claim.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/18581320614/fight-over-real-estate-listings-escalates-as-neighborcity-counters-copyright-claims-with-antitrust-accusations.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/18581320614/fight-over-real-estate-listings-escalates-as-neighborcity-counters-copyright-claims-with-antitrust-accusations.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121004/18581320614/fight-over-real-estate-listings-escalates-as-neighborcity-counters-copyright-claims-with-antitrust-accusations.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 11:49:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Real Estate Listing Services Use Questionable Copyright Claims In Attempt To Block Criticism Of Agents</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've noted in the past just how incredibly backwards facing the real estate industry is.  Last year, I got to present at a real estate industry conference, where I compared how the MLS (multiple-listing service) players were similar to the record labels and music studios, acting as monopolist gatekeepers to information.  And, just as the entertainment industry gatekeepers have attacked disruptive innovators with lawsuits, so too do the MLS operations.  In the past we've discussed how they've <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070518/124426.shtml">attacked</a> web upstarts like Zillow and Redfin.  The latest is that they've <a href="http://www.inman.com/news/2012/04/24/neighborcity-hit-with-mls-copyright-lawsuits" target="_blank">gone after NeighborCity</a>, an offering from a company called American Home Realty Network (AHRN), who dared to make use of real estate data to actually <i>rate real estate agents</i> on their performance.  As you might imagine, the real estate agents don't like that very much.
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AHRN noticed that it suddenly received a flood of complaints and cease &#038; desist letters conveniently timed <i>exactly</i> to the dates of the National Association of Realtors's (NAR's) annual meeting in November of 2011 -- and each of the letter seemed to include similar language.  After responding to all of the complaints, two separate MLS providers sued AHRN.  Amusingly, prior to the lawsuit, an executive for one of the MLS's (NorthStar, from Minnesota) appeared to accidentally cc AHRN on an email to its lawyer, complaining about "the bad fellow" (AHRN CEO Jonathan Cardella) not simply bending over and taking down NeighborCity in response to the complaints, and suggesting that filing copyright infringement lawsuits against AHRN/NeighborCity would be useful in bringing a "world of hurt" on the company.  The email also discusses having various MLSs share the costs of litigation.
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Indeed, NorthStar and a separate MLS, Metropolitan Regional Information Systems, Inc. (MRIS) appear to have followed through and sued for copyright infringement.  You can see MRIS's filing embedded below.  MRIS repeatedly insists that it holds a copyright on its database, completely ignoring fairly well-established law that you can't copyright facts, and that MRIS's copyright (if there is one) is limited to the creative works it added to the process.  Instead, MRIS repeatedly claims to hold a copyright on the entirety of the database.  It also claims to hold the copyrights on the photos uploaded by individual agents, saying that as part of that process, the copyrights are assigned to MRIS.
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NeighborCity has hit back with its response (also embedded below), arguing that MRIS has no such copyright, and citing the litany of cases that establish you cannot copyright factual information, relying heavily (of course) on the important <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_v._Rural" target="_blank"><i>Feist</i> ruling</a> in the Supreme Court, which rejected "sweat of the brow" arguments for copyright, and said you cannot copyright a collection of facts, such as a telephone book.
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It seems that the chance of succeeding on such a claim is slim to none.  MRIS and its lawyers should be slapped around by the judge for even trying such an argument.  MRIS clearly seems to recognize this by trying to use the photographs to make a separate argument.  It claims that every photograph that is uploaded has its copyright assigned to MRIS (I'm actually a bit surprised that real estate agents would agree to this...) and thus it also alleges infringement on the photos.  AHRN, however, points out that MRIS failed to register the individual copyrights on the photos, instead only registering a copyright on the "catalog."  Here, AHRN notes (again) that there is widespread precedent limiting what sort of copyright can be applied to a catalog where little to no additional work was done by the party claiming copyright.  Further, it points to the <a href="http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new-york/nysdce/1:2009cv02669/342814/" target="_blank">Muench case</a>, which noted the "the registrant of a compilation copyright must list the names of the authors of the underlying works."  That's just a district court ruling, so it's not clear how big an impact it would have.
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AHRN also questions the claim that anything it has done creates irreparable harm to MRIS is completely baseless.  MRIS's best argument is that outdated info on NeighborCity reflects poorly on MRIS, but AHRN points out that it would reflect much worse on NeighborCity itself.  
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The real issue, of course, is almost certainly that the real estate agents don't like the fact that they're being rated by the site.  The fact that NeighborCity has operated for years without a problem... until it put up its agent rating service, makes that pretty clear.
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The larger issue may be that AHRN is also alleging that the action confirms that real estate agents are <a href="http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/nar.htm" target="_blank">violating the final judgment in the antitrust lawsuit</a> the US government filed against the National Association of Realtors.  The email that was sent to AHRN certainly seems to indicate plans for concerted action.  Combined with the timing correlating to the NAR event... and there's at least a reasonable case for the DOJ to look into the activity here by real estate agents and MLS services.
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In the end, though, this is the same story we've seen over and over again.  Gatekeepers don't like being disintermediated by disruptive innovation.  So, rather than adapt, they sue.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120521/12223019004/real-estate-listing-services-use-questionable-copyright-claims-attempt-to-block-criticism-agents.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120521/12223019004/real-estate-listing-services-use-questionable-copyright-claims-attempt-to-block-criticism-agents.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120521/12223019004/real-estate-listing-services-use-questionable-copyright-claims-attempt-to-block-criticism-agents.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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