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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:03:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>EFF On IsoHunt: Bad Facts Make Bad Law</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As Gary Fung is seeking a rehearing of the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130321/12104822407/isohunt-still-guilty-contributory-infringement.shtml">IsoHunt case</a> in the 9th Circuit, two amicus briefs were filed yesterday.  The first from <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/684467-eff-amicus-brief-in-isohunt.html" target="_blank">the EFF</a> and the second <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/684466-google-amicus-brief-in-isohunt.html" target="_blank">from Google</a>.  Neither brief suggests that Fung should get off as innocent, or that he did nothing wrong.  Rather, both are worried about how the broad ruling by the court for the specific situation regarding Fung and IsoHunt will lead to further abuse by copyright holders and massive chilling effects on service providers.  The EFF notes that while Fung/IsoHunt may have been bad actors, it appears that the court used this to go way overboard in creating new and dangerous standards for copyright.
<blockquote><i>
This Panel Opinion is a classic case of bad facts making bad law. Amicus Electronic Frontier Foundation does not file this brief to dispute the Court's factual conclusions regarding the conduct at issue in this case. However, the Panel Opinion went far beyond what was necessary to address that conduct. As a result, it has created new legal uncertainty for online service providers and their customers, undermining over a decade of legislation and jurisprudence designed to help reduce that uncertainty. A predictable legal environment has proven to be crucial not only the growth of the Internet generally, but the growth of innovative platforms for free expression, in particular. This case should not provide a vehicle to impede that development.
</i></blockquote>
In particular, they're quite (reasonably) worried at the court's broad interpretation of causation here, in which the court suggests that the most minor example of inducement can lead to liability for all infringement, even if the site had nothing to do with it.
<blockquote><i>
Most important, the Panel Opinion adopts a "loose causation theory" that disconnects the scope of inducement liability from the defendants' acts&#8212;raising the troubling possibility that a single inducing act (such as a message to one customer) could open the floodgates to liability for third-party infringement entirely unrelated to that act. The Opinion's loose causation theory conflicts with fundamental common law principles of proximate cause essential to both predictability and fairness. The Panel's decision to depart from those principles was apparently based on the unfounded assumption that the Supreme Court's decision in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd., 545 U.S. 913
(2005) requires it. Not so. First, Grokster expressly recognized that secondary liability under copyright derives from common law principles. Second, given that Grokster's specific inducement standard was imported from patent law, it is more likely that the Court also intended to import the analytical framework patent law applies where, as here, a service is capable of both infringing and non-infringing uses. 
</i></blockquote>
Meanwhile, Google's focus is on the question of "financial benefit directly attributable" from infringing activities.  The DMCA, of course, includes that as one of the prongs for testing whether or not a site gets safe harbor protections.  Most courts have found that indirect profits don't make you lose safe harbors: i.e., if you're just making money on ads from a page that has infringing content, that's not "directly attributable".  Most people recognize that for it to be "directly attributable" then it needs to be something like actually selling the infringing content, and the direct profits from that action need to be shown.  Instead, copyright maximalists have tried to argue that if you have infringement on a site <i>and</i> some money is made (i.e., there are ads or affiliate links) then, that violates that prong of the test and you lose your safe harbors.  Most courts have realized that's crazy.  But the Fung ruling went very close to the maximalist view, and that (quite reasonably) has Google concerned.  Specifically, it's concerned that the ruling could be read to mean that any "influence" a site has over content means it's liable for all of the content on the site:
<blockquote><i>
There is a danger that this passage could be misconstrued to stand for a broader proposition that we do not believe the panel intended: that any time an online service provider is found to have exercised "substantial influence" over any user-submitted content on its service&#8212;no matter what that finding was based on&#8212;it thereby loses its DMCA safe harbor protections for all user-submitted content on the entire service. This is how some copyright plaintiffs have already tried to read the panel's ruling. In a recent submission to the Southern District of New York in the Viacom v. YouTube case, for example, the plaintiffs have asserted, citing the panel opinion, that this Court &#8220;made clear that where DMCA eligibility is unavailable due to the right and ability to control prong of the safe harbor, the DMCA defense is broadly lost as to all clips in suit.&#8221; Ltr. from Paul M. Smith to Hon. Louis L. Stanton at 2 (March 22, 2013) (attached as Ex. 1).
</i></blockquote>
As Google right notes, this would lead to "absurd results."
<blockquote><i>
Imagine, for example, a video-hosting service that was otherwise eligible for the section 512(c) safe harbor, but that on one occasion commissioned a particular user to upload a video that, unbeknownst to the service, turned out to be infringing. A court might conclude that the service exerted a &#8220;substantial influence&#8221; over that instance of infringement and, if the service earned a direct financial benefit from it, there would be grounds for denying the safe harbor for a claim based on that video. But it would make no sense to thereby disqualify the service provider from DMCA protection across the board&#8212;even for countless other videos whose posting it did not control or from which it earned no benefit.
<br /><br />
Likewise, consider a search engine eligible for protection under the section 512(d) safe harbor for linking to infringing material online. If one of the millions of links provided by the search engine pointed users to infringing material that had been authored by the search engine itself and that users were charged to view, a finding of control plus financial benefit might be warranted for that particular link.

But, again, there would be no plausible basis for categorically depriving the service of the safe harbor for the millions of unrelated links it delivers to material that it does not control or financially benefit from.
</i></blockquote>
But, of course, that's crazy (even if it's exactly what many maximalists actually do seem to want).  Hopefully, the court is willing to revisit these issues and recognize that its original ruling went overboard because of the situations in this case, and that could unfairly mess up other legitimate offerings.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130415/17080722714/eff-isohunt-bad-facts-make-bad-law.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130415/17080722714/eff-isohunt-bad-facts-make-bad-law.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130415/17080722714/eff-isohunt-bad-facts-make-bad-law.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:23:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>IsoHunt Still Guilty Of Contributory Infringement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The 9th Circuit has finally ruled in the appeal of the IsoHunt case, and has found, once again, that Gary Fung <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/626336-columbia-v-fung-03-21-13-opinion.html" target="_blank">is guilty of contributory copyright infringement</a>, as per the Supreme Court's ruling in the Grokster case.  They basically agree with the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">district court ruling</a>, which found that IsoHunt hit on all of the factors that were present to create "inducement" (a theory of copyright that Congress had previously rejected, but which the Supreme Court decided to make exist in the Grokster case).  That is, the court agreed that there was distribution of a "device or product", including acts of infringement, and (most importantly) that IsoHunt itself was promoting the product's use to infringe on copyrights.  However, on the (slightly) good side of things, the court rejected the district court's broad injunction against IsoHunt as going overboard.
<br /><br />
The court goes through the "Grokster" inducement factors, but the results are bit troubling.  The first factor is the distribution of a device or product for infringement.  Here, IsoHunt argued that it was just providing a service for searching and finding stuff, but wasn't actually distributing any file sharing software "product" or "device."  The court doesn't buy it, but I find its argument troubling.
<blockquote><i>
Unlike patents, copyrights protect
expression, not products or devices. Inducement liability is
not limited, either logically or as articulated in Grokster III,
to those who distribute a &#8220;device.&#8221; As a result, one can
infringe a copyright through culpable actions resulting in the
impermissible reproduction of copyrighted expression,
whether those actions involve making available a device or
product or providing some service used in accomplishing the
infringement. For example, a retail copying service that
accepts and copies copyrighted material for customers after
broadly promoting its willingness to do so may be liable for
the resulting infringement although it does not produce any
copying machines or sell them; all it provides is the &#8220;service&#8221;
of copying. Whether the service makes copies using
machines of its own manufacture, machines it owns, or
machines in someone else&#8217;s shop would not matter, as
copyright liability depends on one&#8217;s purposeful involvement
in the process of reproducing copyrighted material, not the
precise nature of that involvement.
</i></blockquote>
That's problematic on multiple levels.  First, it's clearly <i>expanding</i> the Supreme Courts limitations in Grokster, by arguing that effectively the requirement for distributing a product or service used to infringe is no longer a requirement at all!  In other words, they basically argue that the first factor doesn't matter.  Furthermore, the example they use doesn't make much sense either.  The "retail copying service" they describe doesn't need inducement theory to be found guilty, as they appear to be violating the reproduction right <i>directly</i>.
<br /><br />
The second factor is not difficult to prove.  It's obvious that some people used IsoHunt to infringe.  There's no real argument there.  The third element gets a little trickier.  It's the question of how much did IsoHunt <i>promote "its use to infringe."</i>  The appeals court, like the district court, uses the fact that IsoHunt had a listing of "box office movies" as proof of promoting infringing uses, along with some of IsoHunt operator Gary Fung's own actions:
<blockquote><i>
For a time, for
example, isoHunt prominently featured a list of &#8220;Box Office
Movies,&#8221; containing the 20 highest-grossing movies then
playing in U.S. theaters. When a user clicked on a listed title,
she would be invited to &#8220;upload [a] torrent&#8221; file for that
movie. In other words, she would be asked to upload a file
that, once downloaded by other users, would lead directly to
their obtaining infringing content. Fung also posted
numerous messages to the isoHunt forum requesting that
users upload torrents for specific copyrighted films; in other
posts, he provided links to torrent files for copyrighted
movies, urging users to download them
</i></blockquote>
While you can see why this might be seen as promoting the use to infringe, there's a leap here: which is that it assumes that any and all box office movies couldn't possibly also have torrents.  That's not definitively the case.  It is entirely possible that a movie could put up a legitimate torrent -- which the court doesn't even consider as a possibility.  They also point out that Fung did not develop a filter and made money from advertising.  I can't see how either is relevant, as there is no requirement for a filter, nor is it illegal to make money from advertising.
<br /><br />
The most troubling part of the ruling, however, is in the way the court looks at the "causation" question.  Here are the different views presented:
<blockquote><i>
Fung and amicus curiae
Google argue that the acts of infringement must be caused by
the manifestations of the distributor&#8217;s improper object&#8212;that
is, by the inducing messages themselves. Columbia, on the
other hand, maintains that it need only prove that the &#8220;acts of
infringement by third parties&#8221; were caused by the product
distributed or services provided.
</i></blockquote>
The court sides with Columbia on this one, but that basically seems to completely wipe out the fourth factor as well.  Because they more or less argue if you can show both infringement (third factor) and the product (first factor) you've automatically got the fourth factor proven as well.  So why do we even have that fourth factor?
<br /><br />
The court claims that it recognizes this could go too far, but then tries to "strike a balance."
<blockquote><i>
We are mindful, however, of the potential severity of a
loose causation theory for inducement liability. Under this
theory of liability, the only causation requirement is that the
product or service at issue was used to infringe the plaintiff&#8217;s
copyrights. The possible reach of liability is enormous,
particularly in the digital age.
</i></blockquote>
So... how does it deal with this?  It... basically punts.  It goes into a long discussion, highlighting how it's true that IsoHunt and Fung may have a reasonable argument that the infringements that happened were not caused by IsoHunt at all.  For example:
<blockquote><i>
Fung argues, on this basis, that some of the acts of
infringement by third parties relied upon by the district court
may not have involved his websites at all. He points out, for
example, that by far the largest number of torrents tracked by
the Torrentbox tracker are obtained from somewhere other
than Torrentbox.com. If a user obtained a torrent from a
source other than his websites, Fung maintains, he cannot be
held liable for the infringement that resulted.
</i></blockquote>
The court just punts the issue back to the district court:
<blockquote><i>
We do not decide the degree to which Fung can be held
liable for having caused infringements by users of his sites or
trackers. The only issue presently before us is the permanent
injunction, which, as in Grokster III, does not in this case
depend on the &#8220;exact calculation of infringing use[] as a basis
for a claim of damages.&#8221; 545 U.S. at 941. We therefore need
not further entertain Fung&#8217;s causation arguments at this time,
but leave it to the district court to consider them, in light of
the observations we have made, when it calculates damages.
</i></blockquote>
Separately, in discussing the DMCA safe harbors, the ruling <i>does</i> push back on the lower court's rulings, saying that its reasoning for rejecting safe harbors was not accurate.  The lower court said that IsoHunt could not get a DMCA 512(a) safe harbor because that only applied to "transitory" networks, and since the content never actually touched IsoHunt, it didn't apply.  The appeals court rejects this, however.
<blockquote><i>
The district court should not have rejected this safe harbor
on the ground it did. Perfect 10, Inc. v. CCBill LLC, 488 F.3d 
1102 (9th Cir. 2007), held that the &sect; 512(a) safe harbor does
not require that the service provider transmit or route
infringing material, explaining that &#8220;[t]here is no requirement
in the statute that the communications must themselves be
infringing, and we see no reason to import such a
requirement.&#8221; Id. at 1116; see also id. (&#8220;Service providers are
immune for transmitting all digital online communications,
not just those that directly infringe.&#8221;).
</i></blockquote>
However, they still reject safe harbors for IsoHunt because of <i>other</i> activity by Fung, namely using trackers to generate info that is used to "induce further infringing use of his websites and trackers."  Basically, the court says that Fung's website may be protected, but his trackers are <i>not</i> protected as service providers.
<br /><br />
There are two other troubling parts of the ruling.  The first concerns "red flag knowledge." This is the issue that is key to the YouTube/Viacom case.  There's a problem with the DMCA, in that it first notes that takedowns only need to occur with a <i>valid</i> DMCA notice.  That suggests that an invalid DMCA notice should not necessarily lead to a takedown.  But, it also has a section saying that you can be liable if there's "red flag knowledge."  But if you need a valid DMCA notice, would an invalid one count as red flag knowledge?  The whole thing gets tricky fast.  Most courts tend to avoid this by repeatedly saying that there is no red flag knowledge without specific knowledge of infringing files (usually in the form of takedown notices).  The Fung case is really the only major case where red flag knowledge was considered reasonable.  And the court just rubber stamps that decision with little discussion. It just says because Fung encouraged people to upload and download copyrighted works, that proves he had red flag knowledge.  Again, this seems to assume that he must have known it was infringing.
<br /><br />
The other troubling part is that the court argues that having advertising on the site constitutes direct financial benefit from the infringement.  Other courts have noted that just having advertising on a site where infringement occurs does <b>not</b> mean that the financial benefit is directly attributable to the infringement, but the court here walks that back somewhat:
<blockquote><i>
Under these circumstances, we hold the connection
between the infringing activity and Fung&#8217;s income stream
derived from advertising is sufficiently direct to meet the
direct &#8220;financial benefit&#8221; prong of &sect; 512(c)(1)(B). Fung
promoted advertising by pointing to infringing activity;
obtained advertising revenue that depended on the number of
visitors to his sites; attracted primarily visitors who were
seeking to engage in infringing activity, as that is mostly what
occurred on his sites; and encouraged that infringing activity.
Given this confluence of circumstances, Fung&#8217;s revenue
stream was tied directly to the infringing activity involving
his websites, both as to his ability to attract advertisers and as
to the amount of revenue he received.
</i></blockquote>
This is very worrisome, because contrary to what the court suggests here, the revenue stream is not tied to infringement, but tied to providing a popular service that people want.  That is the success of the revenue stream does not increase or decrease with each infringement, but with each use of the overall service -- some of which is infringing, some of which is not.  Fung doesn't make any more money if the ad is viewed by an infringing user vs. a non-infringing user.  It would seem that this should be a prerequisite for requiring that there be a financial benefit from the infringement.  Unfortunately, the court seems to lump this all together as "well there are ads and infringement and more infringement means more ads, so there's a direct financial relationship."  But, under that theory, then pretty much any website that has any infringement could run afoul of that, and that's clearly not what the DMCA's safe harbors were supposed to be about.
<br /><br />
Finally, one bit of good news in the ruling is that the court does rule that the injunction is against IsoHunt is too broad.  This had been a major concern since the original court ordered a blockade that also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/17372118414/forced-mpaa-filter-isohunt-means-legitimate-content-is-being-censored.shtml">blocked legitimate, authorized content</a>.  The court recognized this as a problem, noting that the injunction included all sorts of vague language that impose too much of an expectation that Fung can wave some sort of magic wand to block any and all "infringement-related terms in metadata for any webpages."  The court agrees that this is too much:
<blockquote><i>
Beyond the
specifically-named examples, no one reading this injunction can tell what it means for a term to be &#8220;widely known to be
associated with copyright infringement.&#8221;  We understand the desire to build flexibility into the
injunction. But Rule 65(d), overall, prefers certainty to
flexibility. Subsection
(ii) of the injunction&#8217;s definition of &#8220;Infringement-Related
Terms&#8221; therefore must be modified to state simply that the
phrase includes specifically named terms.
</i></blockquote>
It also finds that some parts of the injunction are clearly too burdensome for Fung himself:
<blockquote><i>
Fung maintains, and we agree, that certain provisions of
the injunction could be interpreted to prevent Fung from ever
working for any technology company whose services others
might use to infringe copyright, even if those other companies
are not themselves liable for primary or secondary copyright
infringement.... We agree that
insofar as the injunction can be interpreted to prohibit Fung
from seeking legitimate employment, it is more burdensome
than necessary to provide Plaintiffs relief.
</i></blockquote>
On the whole, Fung still has lost big time with this ruling, and I'm still quite concerned about many parts of it.  In a few areas the court has cut back on some excesses by the district court but, of course, this case is far from over.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130321/12104822407/isohunt-still-guilty-contributory-infringement.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130321/12104822407/isohunt-still-guilty-contributory-infringement.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130321/12104822407/isohunt-still-guilty-contributory-infringement.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Forced MPAA Filter On IsoHunt Means Legitimate Content Is Being Censored</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the more bizarre rulings in copyright/file sharing cases was the district court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">ruling</a> in the IsoHunt search engine case a couple years ago.  It's still involved in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110509/00313914201/9th-circuit-hears-two-key-cases-about-dmca-safe-harbors-isohunt-veoh.shtml">appeals</a> process, but the district court is one of the only courts so far to broadly interpret the DMCA's "red flags" rule to mean that general knowledge means you have to block access.  The ruling ended up being that IsoHunt basically had to accept a <i>keyword filter</i> from the MPAA and block all access to anything that matched the keywords.  As you can imagine, that's leading to significant overblocking of legitimate content.
<br /><br />
TorrentFreak has the <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-filter-censors-legit-torrent-files-on-isohunt-120406/" target="_blank">unfortunate story of filmmaker Brian Taylor</a>, who released a short horror film called "the Bite" via his En Queue Film production studio, and decided to distribute it via isoHunt.  However, that's when things went bad:
<blockquote><i>
<p>"I got it going, had downloads start from the US and Europe almost immediately, which made me a very happy guy," Taylor told TorrentFreak. </p>
<p>However, this enthusiasm faded quickly when he tried to access <a href="https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/380853973/The+Bite?tab=summary">the torrent</a> from a US connection a day later. Instead of a link to the torrent file the filmmaker was welcomed with the following message. &#8220;Torrent has been censored, as required by US court.&#8221;</p>
</i></blockquote><center>
<a href="http://imgur.com/pwJ6A"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/pwJ6A.jpg" width="450" /></a></center>
<br />
They also note that a torrent of <a href="https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/108611585/?tab=summary">public domain music</a> has been blocked by the MPAA (even though the MPAA's filter is about movies, not music).  Of course, this is what happens when you force overblocking and the use of technologically stupid filtering methods like keywords.  What's amazing is that a court made this same mistake a decade ago with Napster (forcing keyword blocking) and it didn't work then, and doesn't work now.  It's amazing that judges who clearly are technologically illiterate find it reasonable to make rules up out of thin air like this one, that not only does little to block any actual infringement, but does plenty to block legitimate uses of tools.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/17372118414/forced-mpaa-filter-isohunt-means-legitimate-content-is-being-censored.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/17372118414/forced-mpaa-filter-isohunt-means-legitimate-content-is-being-censored.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/17372118414/forced-mpaa-filter-isohunt-means-legitimate-content-is-being-censored.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>9th Circuit Hears Two Key Cases About DMCA Safe Harbors: IsoHunt And Veoh</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, a single three judge panel from the 9th Circuit appeals court heard two key appeals concerning the DMCA, and specifically the DMCA's safe harbors for service providers.  Lawyer Michael Barclay attended both appeals and has <a href="http://ipduck.blogspot.com/2011/05/oral-argument-in-umg-v-veoh-and.html" target="_blank">an excellent report and analysis of each</a>.  It's not always easy to read the tea leaves of which way judges are leaning on appeals like this, but based on both appeals, and the details of both cases, if I had to guess, I'd say that the appeals court will uphold both lower court rulings, even if this seems slightly contradictory.
<br /><br />
If you're not aware of the details of the two cases, the Veoh case is quite similar to the YouTube/Viacom case.  Veoh was a video hosting website that ended up in a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070905/223321.shtml">lawsuit</a> with Universal Music, who not only sued the company, but sued a bunch of its investors as well (a tactic that the record labels have tried a few times, despite the fact that investors are shielded from liability for the actions of company management for very good reasons: otherwise you'd create a massive chill on investment).  The judge wisely <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090914/1348596184.shtml">tossed</a> the Veoh lawsuit, noting that the company was clearly protected by the DMCA safe harbors, and the separate action against the investors was also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090519/0245064926.shtml">shot down</a>.  Of course, mainly because of this lawsuit, Veoh ran out of money and was forced to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100211/1657168136.shtml">shut down</a>.  It ended up selling off its assets to some other company, but a "mystery funder" (I'll give you three guesses...) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/0218539254.shtml">showed up</a> and continued funding the appeal.
<br /><br />
The IsoHunt case is one that has probably received more attention.  IsoHunt is one of many BitTorrent search engines out there, and it was sued by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070117/112450.shtml">the movie studios</a>.  Given similar lawsuits, it wasn't much of a surprise when <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">IsoHunt lost</a>, but there were elements of the ruling that were quite troubling.  It was really the first big DMCA safe harbor lawsuit to make use of the "red flag" provisions of the DMCA.  Most safe harbor cases have focused on whether or not the service provider responded to notices, but in this case, the court said that there were enough "red flags" that, even in the absence of notices, IsoHunt should have blocked certain files.  This is problematic for any number of reasons, as it leaves an incredibly vague standard out there that is, in many ways, incompatible with the notice-and-takedown provisions of the DMCA.  The only real way to reconcile these would be to say that red flags only apply to very <i>specific</i> infringing works, rather than the fact that infringement takes place on the site.  Unfortunately, the court didn't really do that here.  It also took certain statements from IsoHunt founder Gary Fung really out of context to support the claim that he was inducing infringement under the Supreme Court's Grokster standard for inducement.
<br /><br />
It's interesting to see that IsoHunt's lawyer, Ira Rothken, even referenced the Veoh case in his opening remarks, trying to make the claim that IsoHunt has an even stronger case than Veoh, in that IsoHunt is a pure search engine and, unlike Veoh, doesn't host or control any of the actual content.  Separately, he argued that the evidence presented for inducement by Gary Fung came from 2003, but the actual infringement in the case came in 2007 -- and suggested that you can't use general inducement for specific cases of infringement.  Apparently, the court was skeptical on this.  It would surprise me if the court found that convincing at all, as I don't think anything in previous inducement rulings have ever suggested the inducement has to be directly tied to the infringing files.  Anyway, you can listen to the IsoHunt hearing below:
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The Veoh hearing, on the other hand, appeared to go pretty strongly in Veoh's favor.  Universal Music's argument appeared to be that the DMCA safe harbors are meaningless, because they're kinda annoying for Universal Music.  That's a bit of an exaggeration, but <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/0218539254.shtml">not by much</a> -- and the judges aren't buying it.  Universal kicks it off by ridiculously claiming that the Veoh ruling would upend copyright law.  That's simply not true, and the judges immediately called Universal's lawyer on this, pointing out that copyright law and the case law in the 9th Circuit clearly puts the burden on the copyright holder to file notices, rather than expect service providers to proactively police.
<br /><br />
  Universal also argued that the DMCA only applies to backend infrastructure service providers, not every other service providers.  That's a massive uphill climb there, as no court has ever ruled that.  Thankfully, the judges seemed rightfully skeptical, and pointed out that this would decimate the DMCA's safe harbors (exactly what Universal Music and the RIAA wants, of course).  Finally, Universal Music tried to argue (again against all sorts of precedent) that since the DMCA was merely locking in common law precedent, vicarious liability could be interpreted broadly.  Again, the judges seemed skeptical, noting that this would apparently destroy the DMCA's safe harbors.  From Barclay's summary:
<blockquote><i>
 Judges Fisher and Berzon had problems with that interpretation.  Judge Fisher said that under vicarious liability principles, most commercial web sites would satisfy the &ldquo;financial benefit&rdquo; provision, and since in response to a takedown notice they could remove the content, that would satisfy Marenberg&rsquo;s interpretation of the control provision.  Both Judges Fisher and Berzon told Marenberg that under his interpretation, the safe harbor would therefore go away: Judge Berzon told Marenberg his view of the statute &ldquo;kind of blown the whole thing up.&rdquo; 
</i></blockquote>
We've actually seen a weaker, less legalistic, version of this argument made here many times before.  We see people argue all the time that, for example, YouTube must be liable because it makes some money from hosting, and thus is profiting from infringement.  Except, that's not what the law says.  YouTube isn't profiting from <i>infringement</i>.  It's profiting (if it's profiting) from <i>providing a service</i>, which is hosting and displaying videos.  It makes that money whether the works are infringing or not.  If Universal's interpretation of the safe harbors is correct, there are no more safe harbors online, because any for-profit company loses all safe harbors.  That's <i>clearly</i> not what Congress intended.
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Either way, you can year the Veoh hearings below as well:
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I still think that the appeals court will likely uphold both lower court rulings (though, I'm only about 70% confident on that...), even if it is a bit bizarre when you compare the two.  IsoHunt doesn't host or transmit any infringing content.  Veoh likely did.  And yet Veoh has been deemed protected, while IsoHunt was not.  That seems like a questionable outcome no matter what.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110509/00313914201/9th-circuit-hears-two-key-cases-about-dmca-safe-harbors-isohunt-veoh.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110509/00313914201/9th-circuit-hears-two-key-cases-about-dmca-safe-harbors-isohunt-veoh.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110509/00313914201/9th-circuit-hears-two-key-cases-about-dmca-safe-harbors-isohunt-veoh.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:07:48 PST</pubDate>
<title>Google Finally Gets Involved In Torrent Search Engine Lawsuit... But Just To Reject 'Red Flag' DMCA Violations</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/01523213181/google-finally-gets-involved-torrent-search-engine-lawsuit-just-to-reject-red-flag-dmca-violations.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ TorrentFreak is noting that Google has, perhaps for the first time, waded into any of the lawsuits concerning torrent search engines, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/google-gets-involved-in-bittorrent-search-engine-lawsuit-110220/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">filing an amicus brief in the ongoing IsoHunt appeal</a>.  In the past, other torrent search engines have been somewhat upset that Google has stayed quiet, noting that many of the arguments used against them could equally apply to Google.  Google, of course, has stayed away because it goes to great lengths these days to avoid any appearance of "supporting piracy."
<br><br>
While TorrentFreak (and IsoHunt) seems surprised or disappointed by Google's actual amicus brief in the IsoHunt case, it's really not surprising.  Google's participation here is <i>entirely</i> about the YouTube/Viacom lawsuit and appeal.  What was really notable about the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1428339531.shtml">original</a> IsoHunt ruling, was that it was the only real legal ruling that said that you could violate the DMCA even in absence of takedown notices.  That is, it highlighted the idea of "red flag" awareness of infringement.  This was <i>the</i> key issue in the YouTube/Viacom lawsuit.  Google argues that as long as YouTube took down any content it received a takedown notice on, it was in compliance and protected by safe harbors.  Viacom leaned <i>heavily</i> on the IsoHunt ruling, to claim that the DMCA doesn't just cover takedown notice responses, but also requires a response to "red flag" infringement.
<Br><br>
However, Google knows that the IsoHunt ruling is basically the only legal precedent out there that reads the DMCA in this manner.  So, from Google's perspective, dumping that reasoning is key.  So its amicus brief still argues that IsoHunt is guilty of contributory infringement, a la the Grokster standard, but <i>not</i> because of red flag infringement.   So, I don't find it that "unexpected" that Google got involved, or filed the brief that it did.  It's focused entirely on its own lawsuit here, and hoping that the appeals court will take away the one serious case that Viacom has in its pocket for the YouTube appeal.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/01523213181/google-finally-gets-involved-torrent-search-engine-lawsuit-just-to-reject-red-flag-dmca-violations.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/01523213181/google-finally-gets-involved-torrent-search-engine-lawsuit-just-to-reject-red-flag-dmca-violations.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/01523213181/google-finally-gets-involved-torrent-search-engine-lawsuit-just-to-reject-red-flag-dmca-violations.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Recording Industry Keeps Quiet About Canadian IsoHunt Lawsuit; Didn't Want To Admit Canada Has Strong Copyright</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Michael Geist has the news that last year, at some point, the recording industry <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5636/135/" target="_blank">filed a lawsuit against IsoHunt in Canada</a>.  There's already been an ongoing lawsuit against IsoHunt in the US, but not too many people realized there was a similar lawsuit in Canada.  And that's for a specific reason: the recording industry did their best to keep it quiet.  The lawsuit was filed just a few weeks before Canada's latest attempt at copyright reform was put forth and a big part of the narrative for why such a law was needed was because Canadian copyright laws weren't strong enough to go after a site like IsoHunt.  So, making a big stink about a lawsuit -- under those existing copyright laws -- against IsoHunt would have hurt that story...  Of course, this raises the question: if existing copyright laws were strong enough, why did politicians and industry lobbyists claim they were not?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110214/11140513086/recording-industry-keeps-quiet-about-canadian-isohunt-lawsuit-didnt-want-to-admit-canada-has-strong-copyright.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110214/11140513086/recording-industry-keeps-quiet-about-canadian-isohunt-lawsuit-didnt-want-to-admit-canada-has-strong-copyright.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110214/11140513086/recording-industry-keeps-quiet-about-canadian-isohunt-lawsuit-didnt-want-to-admit-canada-has-strong-copyright.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Strange Bedfellows: IsoHunt And Andrew Cuomo?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100701/01232010037.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ This one is a bit odd and unexpected.  We recently reported on how grandstanding New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo had kicked off a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100617/1640359873.shtml">new project</a> that would create a database of child porn, and offer up hashes to any website that wanted to use it to block such content from being uploaded.  While the general concept seemed good, it wasn't clear how this database was being generated, or if there were safeguards in place to make sure that the list really only included illegal images.  Either way, it appears that Cuomo has welcomed with open arms a surprising company who wants to use the database: IsoHunt.  Yes, the torrent search engine in the midst of a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1428339531.shtml">legal battle for its survival</a> has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-partners-us-attorney-general-to-ban-child-porn-100630/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">agreed to use the hash database to prevent access to such images via its system</a>.
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Considering that Cuomo thrust himself in the middle of the file sharing debate by supposedly trying (and failing) to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081219/0225073172.shtml">broker backroom deals</a> with ISPs to get them to embrace three strikes policies, it seems a bit surprising that he would embrace a site like IsoHunt.  That said, it seems that he appears a lot more interested in getting publicity over child porn issues rather than copyright.  As for IsoHunt, this also appears to be a pretty calculated move.  Part of the site's legal argument is that the judge's demand to filter by keyword is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1638499838.shtml">way too broad</a>, and it has argued that a similar hash database would make more sense.  So, it's no surprise that IsoHunt wasted little time in letting the judge know about this new deal.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100701/01232010037.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100701/01232010037.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100701/01232010037.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 04:25:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is Forcing IsoHunt To Block Search Terms A First Amendment Violation?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1638499838.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Given similar rulings, and the judge's comments so far in the IsoHunt case, I find it quite unlikely that the company has any chance of getting out from under the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1428339531.shtml">injunction</a> issued against it.  However, IsoHunt's lawyer, Ira Rothken (who has been involved in a few similar lawsuits), is trying to make the case that <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/isohunt-not-dead-yet/" target="_blank">the current injunction is way too broad</a> and a violation of the First Amendment.  The argument is that the injunction bars certain searches, telling Isohunt operator Gary Fung that he cannot allow searches for certain movie titles, such as <i>Alice in Wonderland</i>.  But, Rothken points out, the movie studios don't own that <i>name</i>.  They may own a particular movie under that name, but using that to block all searches on the name goes beyond what the law allows:
<blockquote><i>
One issue concerns how Fung should remove searches from his three search engines: Isohunt, Torrentbox and Podtropolis. The Motion Picture Association of America, which brought the case, has sent keyword searches it wants removed, like the number 10, Alice in Wonderland and Dracula, Rothken said.
<br /><br />
"One person's copyrighted Wizard of Oz is another person's public domain work," Rothken said in a brief telephone interview Tuesday. He said the movie studios should provide URLs or hashes, which would positively identify which search link should be removed.
<br /><br />
"The motion picture studios do not have a monopoly on names on things. That is where the injunction is violating the First Amendment," he said.
</i></blockquote>
I'm sure that copyright system defenders will brush this off as being a pointless exercise, but he's actually got a very reasonable point.  Asking for blocks on names alone seems to go well beyond what the law is supposed to allow.  It's yet another example of the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/1450189418.shtml">difference</a> between real copyright law and file sharing copyright law.  Copyright law does not allow for a block based on just a name.  But, apparently "file sharing copyright law" does.  And that's a problem, if you actually believe in the rule of law and interpreting the law accurately.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1638499838.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1638499838.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1638499838.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:10:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>As Expected, Judge Issues Injunction Against IsoHunt For Not Finding Magic Wand</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1428339531.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, here we go again with the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/1450189418.shtml">difference</a> between real copyright law and "file sharing copyright" law.  Just as a court in the southern district of California has suggested that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1228049530.shtml">Rapidshare is not liable</a> for infringing activities of its users, a court in the central district of California has <a href="http://business.financialpost.com/2010/05/21/fp-tech-desk-u-s-judge-slams-canadas-isohunt-over-copyright-infingement-allegations/" target="_blank">come down hard on Isohunt, demanding the site wave a magic wand and delete all infringing links</a>.  Of course, since we don't live in fantasy land where that's possible, it basically  means the site needs to be shut down.  As with the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">original ruling</a> against Isohunt, however, it appears the judge doesn't quite understand the technology at play, and ascribes to Isohunt functionality that it has nothing to do with.  For example:
<blockquote><i>
Second, given the way in which
Defendants' system works, when Defendants' end-users download one of
Plaintiffs' works, the end-users automatically and simultaneously
further distribute the work to innumerable others as a required part of
the download process; additionally, at the conclusion of the download,
Defendants' end-users obtain an unprotected digital copy of Plaintiffs'
work that those end-users can further distribute indefinitely at will.
</i></blockquote>
But, uh, that's how <i>BitTorrent</i> works.  Not IsoHunt.  I don't quite see how it makes sense to blame IsoHunt -- which is basically a search engine -- for the activities done by its end users <i>and</i> the technology of BitTorrent.  The court also takes it as fact that the availability of unauthorized free copies <i>must</i> harm the market, despite no evidence to back that up.  It's faith-based rulings, based on Hollywood (on the heels of its best box office year <i>ever</i>) making claims with no facts, that the judge just accepted:
<blockquote><i>
It is axiomatic
that the availability of free infringing copies of Plaintiffs' works
through Defendants' websites irreparably undermines the growing
legitimate market for consumers to purchase access to the same works.
</i></blockquote>
But that's wrong.  It <i>may</i> cause harm, but it's hardly irreparable.  If the movie studios actually, you know, adapted to the changing market (as some are figuring out), they could actually do much better.  Why does the judge suggest otherwise with no proof at all?
<br><br>
Finally, the court continues to live in the same fantasy land as the entertainment industry in thinking this injunction will actually slow down or prevent any file sharing:
<blockquote><i>
Finally, the Court agrees that the public interest will be served
with a permanent injunction, since it will protect Plaintiffs'
copyrights against increased and unrestrained infringement.
</i></blockquote>
Except, of course, it will do no such thing.  Instead, those users will disperse to other sites, perhaps the same ones that the entertainment industry just helped <A href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100519/1615409495.shtml">advertise</a>.
<br><br>
Finally, the actual injunction is incredibly broad and amounts to -- as mentioned -- demanding that IsoHunt and Gary Fung develop a magic wand to figure out if a <i>link</i> points to infringing material:
<blockquote><i>
Defendants shall be
permanently enjoined from knowingly engaging in any of the following
activities in connection with the Isohunt System or any Comparable
System:<br><br>
(a) hosting, indexing, linking to, or otherwise providing access
to any Dot-torrent or similar files that correspond, point or lead
to any of the Copyrighted Works;
<br><br>
(b) assisting with end-user reproductions or transmissions of any
of the Copyrighted Works through a tracker server, or any other
server or software that assists users in locating, identifying or
obtaining files from other users offering any of the Copyrighted
Works for transmission; or
<br><br>
(c) hosting or providing access to any of the Copyrighted Works.
</i></blockquote>
This is not to say that Fung is blameless.  Clearly, IsoHunt did some things that looked quite bad under the law.  But that doesn't excuse some of this ruling, which seems to go to ridiculous levels, way beyond what copyright law allows. None of this is a surprise given the earlier ruling or <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1040388809.shtml">the proposed injunction</a>, which included much of the same troubling language (including the bogus "axiomatic" statement).  This isn't to defend Fung or IsoHunt at all. But I do worry when judges get so hung up on how bad a site like IsoHunt must be that they make rulings that will cause trouble down the road for others.  Below is the full ruling if you want to read through it:
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:47:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge Tells IsoHunt To Wave Magic Wand; Block All Infringement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This really is not a huge surprise, but in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">IsoHunt case</a> the judge has now ordered site operator Gary Fung to <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/isohunt/" target="_blank">magically stop anyone from infringing</a> (<b>Update</b>: as noted in the comments this is just a "proposed" order, but it seems likely that this is where the judge is heading).  It is, as Fung notes, effectively a shut down order.  There's no legitimate way for Fung to magically know what content is infringing and what is not, since his system is really no different than a search engine.  While the original ruling concerned a few of Fung's actions that the judge claimed were inducing, it looks like the judge won't even give Fung a chance to try to set up a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0332398304.shtml">non-inducing</a> search engine.
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There are some odd statements in the ruling, including the judge claiming:
<blockquote><i>
"It is axiomatic that the availability of free infringing copies of plaintiffs' works through defendants' websites irreparably undermines the growing legitimate market  for consumers to purchase access to the same works,"
</i></blockquote>
There's just one (big) problem with that.  It is not at all axiomatic.  We've seen many content creators embrace file sharing as part of a legitimate market, and in doing so, make more money.  So the judge is claiming something that is a universal truth that is false.  That seems quite troubling.
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Separately, the ruling seems to suggest that a <i>keyword filter</i> might stop the infringement.  That takes me back.  Judge Patel in the original Napster case made the same demand, and it was a disaster, because a keyword filter is useless.
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But the bigger issue is that the judge seems to have gone way beyond what the law actually says and allows in this situation.  The site can be barred for <i>inducing</i> infringement, but that doesn't mean a site automatically must block anything that might be infringing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1040388809.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1040388809.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1040388809.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:04:36 PST</pubDate>
<title>isoHunt Tries To Setup A Site That Doesn't Induce</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ One result of the Supreme Court's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050627/0859258_F.shtml">ruling</a> in the Grokster case, five years ago, was formalization of the concept of "inducement" of copyright infringement as being against the law itself -- despite the lack of any such concept in the statute, and a failure (despite repeated attempts) by Congress to put an inducement standard directly into the law (suggesting, pretty clearly, that Congress did not intend for there to be an inducement standard in copyright law).  Now, the entertainment industry has stretched the Grokster ruling for years, pretending that the Supreme Court actually said simply that any file sharing program/site was violating copyright law.  But that's not true at all.  What's unclear, however, is what constitutes inducement and what doesn't.  Given various court rulings on the subject, it seems like you could set up a perfectly legal file trading system/search engine that doesn't run afoul of the law by making sure that it wasn't designed to induce infringement at all.
<br><br>
Unfortunately, pretty much every file sharing system/search engine that's gone to court in the US has failed that test miserably by regularly pitching its product for the purpose of infringing on copyright law.  In a recent ruling, concerning the torrent search engine IsoHunt, we noted that the judge <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">found inducement</a> in a variety of places in how the site was operated and (more importantly) in comments made by the site's owner, Gary Fung.
<br><br>
Now, in response, Fung appears to be interested in trying to see if he can thread that needle and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-to-appeal-in-mpaa-lawsuit-sees-the-lite-100223/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">setup a site that still has the search engine, but avoids any of the things that were flagged for inducing infringement</a>.  The key one is the question of whether or not the company/site/owner promotes the infringing nature of its site -- which is one par of the three-pronged test for inducement.  Fung has proposed to the court that if he sets up such a site, which he calls isoHunt Lite, there shouldn't be an injunction shutting down the site.
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It's an interesting legal question, but somehow I doubt the judge is likely to agree.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0332398304.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0332398304.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0332398304.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:39:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>IsoHunt Loses Big; Court Says: You Induce, You Lose</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the many lawsuits against file sharing sites/search engines around the world is the IsoHunt lawsuit -- yet another case where the entertainment industry decided a marginal player in the space <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070117/112450.shtml">didn't have enough attention</a> and sued.  While the judge in the case had earlier pointed out that the MPAA <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090826/2311106011.shtml">failed to show actual evidence of infringement</a> of copyrights by US users on IsoHunt, that still didn't stop the judge from <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4643/125/" target="_blank">granting summary judgment to the movie studios</a>, saying that because IsoHunt induced infringement, it loses, no trial needed.  This isn't a huge surprise, given how courts have ruled previously, but there are some oddities in <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/24472378/OrderGrantingMSJ-Fung" target="_blank">the ruling, which you can see below</a>:
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The court relies on the fact that IsoHunt owner Gary Fung made many statements that could be read as inducing infringement, but most of the statements appear to have been taken out of context.  In fact, it looks like the court interpreted any time Fung mentioned "stealing" to mean support for copyright infringement, even if the words he stated were actually suggesting something different.  For example, the court cites the following statement by Fung:
<blockquote><i>
"Morally, I'm a Christian. 'Thou shalt not steal.' But to me,
even copyright infringement when it occurs may not necessarily be
stealing."
</i></blockquote>
The court seems to think this indicates inducement, but if that's the case, then shouldn't the Supreme Court itself be guilty as well for famously <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20030922/027245.shtml">stating</a> in the Dowling case:
<blockquote><i>
"(copyright infringement) does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud... The infringer invades a statutorily defined province guaranteed to the copyright holder alone. But he does not assume physical control over copyright; nor does he wholly deprive its owner of its use."
</i></blockquote>
If the first is inducement, isn't the latter as well?  Furthermore, the court seems to take a quote that refers to "stealing from leechers" to mean inducing infringement, apparently not recognizing that leechers have a very specific meaning in the BitTorrent world, and the statement appears to have nothing to do with infringing on copyright.
<br /><br />
That said, there are some other things that put Fung on much thinner ice, including helping people find certain files and helping explain how trackers work -- though, again, it's not clear that Fung would know for certain that the files being searched for were infringing.  The court does find it (reasonably) damning that Fung presented a list of top box office films, with links to pages that asked people to share torrent files that pointed to the films themselves.  You can certainly see how that could trigger the "inducement" finding.
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But what may be most interesting (or troubling, depending on your perspective) is the court's discussion on the DMCA, which basically says that DMCA safe harbors do not apply if it can be shown that the site turned a blind eye to infringement.  If that reasoning is used, it could eventually implicate sites like YouTube, despite rulings like the one in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090914/1348596184.shtml">Veoh case</a>.  Expect IsoHunt to appeal, though given the details in the case, it seems quite unlikely that it will prevail.  There are too many precedents against this sort of operation, even if the court misinterpreted Fung's statements, which it deems as "most telling" in the ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091223/1924027493.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>ah,-the-old-inducement-standard</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>File Sharing Sites Team Up To Help Promote Indie Films</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While some continue to insist that there's nothing good or legal that comes from file sharing sites, many content creators who have embraced those sites have found them to be wonderful tools for distribution and promotion.  Now, it looks like a bunch of them are teaming up to do even more.  Mininova, The Pirate Bay, isoHunt, Miro, Vuze and Frostwire have all agreed to work with a new project called Vodo, which will help <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-site-coalition-to-help-indie-filmmakers-091013/" target="_new">promote indie films</a>.  Filmmakers can offer their films through Vodo and get promoted on the various file sharing sites -- and the system is designed to let people easily donate.  While I'm not a huge fan of a pure "donation" business model, it should be interesting to see how Vodo evolves over time.  Certainly, it could be a valuable tool to indie filmmakers who recognize that obscurity is a much bigger threat to their efforts than piracy.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091014/0128436520.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091014/0128436520.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091014/0128436520.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>no-legitimate-purpose?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:09:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge In IsoHunt Case Tells MPAA It Needs To Actually Prove Infringement By US Residents</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This is a first.  In the trial that the movie studios have brought against torrent search engine Isohunt, the judge has pushed back on the MPAA's claims, noting that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10318942-93.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20" target="_new">it has failed to show any evidence of actual infringement by US users</a>.  In the past, groups like the MPAA and the RIAA have been able to get by without ever proving real infringement, but just by suggesting it must be happening.  So this is quite a surprise.  It makes the Isohunt case one to watch more seriously.  The company may still lose the lawsuit, but at least the judge seems to want to see actual evidence, rather than having Hollywood execs insisting that these sites are killing their business just because they say so.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090826/2311106011.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090826/2311106011.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090826/2311106011.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well,-that's-a-first</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 May 2009 03:38:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Indie Record Label Sponsors isoHunt BitTorrent Tracker Site</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While the major record labels keep insisting that BitTorrent and tracker sites are somehow evil and need to be shut down, more and more indie artists and labels are recognizing that they actually are quite useful promotion and distribution platforms.  We've pointed to some in the past, but the latest is a label called Honor Roll Music, which is <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/record-label-sponsors-bittorrent-site-isohunt-090503/" target="_new">promoting one of its popular acts by buying ads on isoHunt</a>, the popular BitTorrent site.  The ad links to a torrent file so people can easily download the music of the band, Awesome New Republic.  Of course, if the major record labels had their way, these creative promotion techniques wouldn't be allowed.  Sometimes when we talk about innovative business models, defenders of the old system say that those are fine, but there's no reason to change copyright or stop these lawsuits because those models still work.  Yet, this shows how that's not true at all.  If the entertainment industry successfully shuts down these sites, it precludes these types of models and promotions.  Once again, we see how this is really all about stomping out innovation rather than any legal issue.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090504/0411034737.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090504/0411034737.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090504/0411034737.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>more-labels-that-get-it</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:26:59 PST</pubDate>
<title>China Says: If You Must Infringe On Copyrights, Use Baidu</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Many people have noted over the years that with all of the effort that China has put into its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060423/2331210.shtml">Great Firewall</a>, the country hasn't done much of anything to crack down on unauthorized file sharing.  In fact, at times, it's almost seemed to encourage it.  So some people were a bit surprised to find out that China's censors tried <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/china-hijacks-popular-bittorrent-sites-081108/" target="_new">blocking traffic to various well known BitTorrent sites</a>, such as Mininova, isoHunt and The Pirate Bay.  However, what may be most interesting is that rather than blocking them outright, it appears that the system just redirects all that traffic to popular Chinese search engine Baidu.  
<br /><br />
This would be the same Baidu that first became really popular when China shifted all Google traffic to its site, and also the site that stayed popular because it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050713/1431218.shtml">made it easy</a> to download unauthorized music.  This would be the same Baidu that was also recently exposed to be <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080915/0150502269.shtml">fairly complicit</a> in the music downloads it offers, potentially hosting the content itself through a revolving series of ever-changing domains.  So, this hardly seems like an attempt by the Chinese government to crack down on unauthorized file sharing -- but an attempt to drive it all to a local company.  It looks like the redirects only lasted for a few days, and are no longer in place -- but if the past is any indication, those redirects may come back at any time.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081110/0025482785.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081110/0025482785.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081110/0025482785.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>interesting-strategy</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>isoHunt Seeks Declaratory Judgment In Canada On Legality Of Torrent Tracking</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may remember that soon after the entertainment industry provided The Pirate Bay with a ton of free publicity by getting the site (oh so briefly) shut down, its next target was isoHunt, which similarly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070117/112450.shtml">backfired</a>.  While isoHunt is still involved in litigation in the US with the MPAA, up in Canada, the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) has sent it a threatening letter demanding that it shut down.  Similar threats have worked against other BitTorrent tracker sites, but isoHunt feels that it's on pretty firm legal grounds, and has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-sues-the-cria-to-legalize-bittorrent-sites-080905/" target="_new">filed a lawsuit against the CRIA, asking for a declaratory judgment that its service doesn't infringe on copyrights</a>.  It's using a similar explanation as its US lawsuit, noting that it's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080504/2203281027.shtml">no different</a> than a search engine.  It also points out that when given evidence of infringing content, it takes down the related trackers -- which again should help put the site on pretty strong legal ground.  While Canadian copyright law is different than US law, this is an important case to watch.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080908/0126392191.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080908/0126392191.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080908/0126392191.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>one-to-watch</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 May 2008 04:11:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>isoHunt Tries The 'Just A Search Engine' Defense</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ isoHunt, one of the BitTorrent tracker sites that the MPAA generated publicity for with a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060607/1558240.shtml">lawsuit</a> a couple of years ago, has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-mpaa-bittorrent-080504/" target="_new">filed a response to the judge's request</a> for more information on how BitTorrent and BitTorrent tracker sites work.  The MPAA, of course, positioned isoHunt as a den of piracy.  But isoHunt, following the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060728/1351256.shtml">lead</a> of TorrentSpy, has pointed out to the judge that it's no different than a search engine, indexing the various BitTorrent files out there.  isoHunt, itself, is never involved in copyright infringement and, of course, there are plenty of authorized BitTorrent trackers out there.  It will be interesting to see a judge finally rule on this issue.  TorrentSpy <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071218/161947.shtml">lost</a> its case, but not over this issue.  In that case, the guys at TorrentSpy destroyed evidence -- which is a huge no-no.  Hopefully a judge recognizes why search engines shouldn't be blamed for infringement that results from the use of the website.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080504/2203281027.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080504/2203281027.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080504/2203281027.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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