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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:54:21 PST</pubDate>
<title>Aussie ISP: We Won't Be Hollywood's Copyright Cops If Hollywood Won't Fix Its Own Business Model</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may remember iiNet, the Australian ISP that Hollywood attacked (with support of US State Department officials) after they decided that it was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110901/01544015760/leaked-state-department-cable-confirms-what-everyone-already-knew-mpaa-was-behind-bogus-australian-isp-lawsuit.shtml">too small</a> to fight back, but big enough that people would notice.  They guessed incorrectly, and iiNet not only <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">fought back</a> by taking a strong <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml">pro-consumer view</a>, but <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml">won</a> in convincing fashion.  Even more importantly, as we noted, the courts made it clear why it's silly to expect third party service providers like ISPs <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">to be copyright cops</a>, since establishing infringement "is not a straight 'yes' or 'no' question," but rather involves going through a lot of evidence and evaluating it.
<br /><br />
Since then, Hollwyood has continued (via the Australian government) to pressure ISPs to step up to become copyright cops anyway, and iiNet has participated in those discussions.  But late last week it <a href="http://blog.iinet.net.au/iinet-withdraws-notice-notice-scheme/" target="_blank">walked away from the discussions</a> after Hollywood folks kept demanding a system similar to the US's in which ISPs would send along notices to people they accused of infringement.  iiNet gave a bunch of good reasons for walking away, but the basic message was that piracy is a problem that the entertainment industry could solve itself by making <i>all of its content available more conveniently and at better prices</i>.  Until it does that, it's silly to rope in third parties to try to hold back the tide.
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<p><strong>A broken record</strong></p>
<p>The conversation has failed to move on. The rights holders are still insisting ISP's should perform work on their behalf instead of addressing what we have always said is the root cause of the infringements &#8211; the limited accessibility to desirable content and the discriminatory and high cost of content in Australia. Infringements are a symptom &#8211; access is the problem.</p>
<p><strong>Data retention proposals</strong></p>
<p>iiNet won't support any scheme that forces ISPs to retain data in order to allow for the tracking of customer behaviour and the status of any alleged infringements against them.</p>
<p>Collecting and retaining additional customer data at this level is inappropriate, expensive and most importantly, not our responsibility.</p>
<p><strong>It's not iiNet's job to play online police</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>We've been over this before.<strong> </strong>The High Court spoke loud and clear in their verdict when they ruled categorically that ISPs have no obligation to protect the rights of third parties, and we're not prepared to harass our customers when the industry has no clear obligation to do so. <strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>It's time to find a new way</strong></p>
<p>We believe that timely, affordable access to legitimate content is the best option for reducing unauthorised sharing.</p>
</i></blockquote>
The problem, of course, is that the entertainment industry still doesn't understand what's happening.  They flat out reject the idea that piracy might be due to their own unwillingness to embrace the internet and provide more content, in more convenient ways at better prices.  So, instead, they believe that everyone else should be responsible for fixing the entertainment industry's own mistakes.  It's nice to see iiNet call them out so directly.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121217/11290121406/aussie-isp-we-wont-be-hollywoods-copyright-cops-if-hollywood-wont-fix-its-own-business-model.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121217/11290121406/aussie-isp-we-wont-be-hollywoods-copyright-cops-if-hollywood-wont-fix-its-own-business-model.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121217/11290121406/aussie-isp-we-wont-be-hollywoods-copyright-cops-if-hollywood-wont-fix-its-own-business-model.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:05:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Australian ISP: Negotiating With Hollywood Over Copyright Is Like Talking To A Brick Wall</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We just mentioned the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120605/18331419214/australian-govt-chooses-consumer-advocate-secret-anti-piracy-meetings-chairman-copyright-council.shtml">charade</a> happening down in Australia, where the entertainment industry, the government and some ISPs are meeting in total <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02424618573/australian-government-plans-to-continue-holding-secret-anti-piracy-stakeholder-meetings-with-industry-no-consumer-advocates.shtml">secrecy</a> to try to hash out a "voluntary" plan to deal with online infringement.  Of course, not only won't any agreement work, the whole process is stupid.  Thankfully, at least one ISP is publicly speaking out about this: iiNet.
<br /><br />
Of course, to some extent, iiNet is "responsible" for these meetings happening at all.  If you don't recall, iiNet was chosen carefully by a Hollywood-run front group in Australia called AFACT -- the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft -- because the Hollywood studios thought that it was big enough to matter, but <i>too small</i> to actually fight back.  They miscalculated.  iiNet fought back (strongly) and won easily at multiple levels, leading to a nice precedent on the books that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml">Hollywood hates</a>.  Of course, part of that ruling more or less said that iiNet had no responsibility to do anything under existing law.  So now that's resulted in these meetings, in which the government hopes "an agreement" is reached, but where it also gets to suggest that if the ISPs don't appease Hollywood, regulations might be put in place.
<br /><br />
iiNet, being at the center of all this, finds the entire thing ridiculous and <a href="http://blog.iinet.net.au/find-share-content-talking-brick-wall/" target="_blank">is not shy about stating how it really feels</a>, saying that negotiating with Hollywood is like talking to a brick wall.  The blog post from iiNet covers a lot of ground that we've covered here for years, but it's nice to see an ISP speak out so publicly and so strongly on these points.  First off, it covers the real problem: there's real consumer demand, but the industry sucks at meeting it.  It also debunks the "can't compete with free" trope, yet again.
<blockquote><i>
AFACT and other rights holder bodies don&#8217;t care much for consumers. As you may have read, Neil Gane of AFACT thinks consumers are &#8220;unreasonable&#8221; to tell their suppliers of entertainment what they want. Actually, AFACT don&#8217;t have any customers in Australia, they are all in California, which unfortunately means that consumer pressure is unlikely to have much impact on their strategies.
<br /><br />
iiNet have suggested that they focus on what the market is demanding, but it&#8217;s a waste of breath. Their masters have set the agenda and rights holders will only do their bidding.
<br /><br />
Gane has made repeated calls for legislative change over time and that&#8217;s where AFACT&#8217;s future efforts will focus on, not taking into account consumer demands. The attorney general&#8217;s departmental forum is not designed to contribute to such legislative change and so I&#8217;m not expecting the process to generate any satisfaction for consumers or distributors.
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Listening to actual consumers would be tremendously helpful, but the inability of the entertainment industry to do exactly that is a big part of the reason they're in this mess today in the first place.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120608/03224819246/australian-isp-negotiating-with-hollywood-over-copyright-is-like-talking-to-brick-wall.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120608/03224819246/australian-isp-negotiating-with-hollywood-over-copyright-is-like-talking-to-brick-wall.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120608/03224819246/australian-isp-negotiating-with-hollywood-over-copyright-is-like-talking-to-brick-wall.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Australian Government Plans To Continue Holding Secret Anti-Piracy 'Stakeholder' Meetings With Industry; No Consumer Advocates Allowed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02424618573/australian-government-plans-to-continue-holding-secret-anti-piracy-stakeholder-meetings-with-industry-no-consumer-advocates.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall that the Australian government has been holding a series of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/10303918185/austrailian-govt-not-public-interest-public-to-be-interested-secret-anti-piracy-negotiations.shtml">secret</a> "anti-piracy" negotiations between the entertainment industry and ISPs.  When more information was sought via a Freedom of Information request, the Australian Attorney General sent a fully redacted document, claiming that it was "not in the public interest" to reveal how the industries and the government would be screwing over the public (slight paraphrase).  This, alone, is ridiculous.  However, getting even more ridiculous is that, following the High Court ruling saying that ISPs are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml">not liable</a> for infringement by their users, the AG has said <a href="http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/20/govt-to-continue-secret-anti-piracy-talks/" target="_blank">such meetings will continue</a>:
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The Federal Government would &#8220;closely examine&#8221; the High Court&#8217;s judgement in the long-running copyright infringement case won by ISP iiNet over film and TV studios this morning, Federal Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said this afternoon, as she noted that closed-door talks held by her department with industry on the matter would continue.
</i></blockquote>
Thankfully, iiNet's CEO seems to realize that with this ruling in hand, he doesn't need to give in to industry blackmail.  While noting that the meetings had been "been going around in circles," in the wake of the High Court ruling, iiNet CEO Michael Malone announced at a press conference that "My preference would be to walk away now."  If only it were that easy.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02424618573/australian-government-plans-to-continue-holding-secret-anti-piracy-stakeholder-meetings-with-industry-no-consumer-advocates.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02424618573/australian-government-plans-to-continue-holding-secret-anti-piracy-stakeholder-meetings-with-industry-no-consumer-advocates.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02424618573/australian-government-plans-to-continue-holding-secret-anti-piracy-stakeholder-meetings-with-industry-no-consumer-advocates.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:02:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Hollywood Loses Its Big Copyright Lawsuit Against ISP iiNet Down Under</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, here's some good news on the copyright front down under in Australia.  You may recall that, back in 2008, a bunch of Hollywood studios (along with two Australian movie studios, just to make it seem "local") <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">sued</a> Australian ISP iiNet for failing to "do enough" to stop infringement.  As far as we can tell, Hollywood basically wanted iiNet to wave a magic wand.  We later learned, thanks to a US State Department cable leaked via Wikileaks that, not only was the MPAA really behind the lawsuit (though it tried to keep its involvement secret), but that it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110901/01544015760/leaked-state-department-cable-confirms-what-everyone-already-knew-mpaa-was-behind-bogus-australian-isp-lawsuit.shtml">chose iiNet</a> (the third largest Australian ISP) on purpose: they were "big enough to be important" but not big enough to have the resources to fight back (in the tangled mind of the MPAA).  This, like so many MPAA actions these days, turned out to be a serious miscalculation.
<br /><br />
iiNet fought back, and fought back hard -- and won at every single level in the court system, including today's <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/hollywood-loses-final-appeal-in-piracy-case-20120420-1xb12.html" target="_blank">High Court ruling that effectively ends the case</a>.  Oh yeah, the High Court also says that Hollywood has to pay iiNet's legal expenses -- approximately $9 million.
<br /><br />
From the beginning, contrary to the MPAA's assumption, iiNet fought back hard.  Beyond the obvious, which was pointing out that as a service provider it was not responsible for its users' actions, iiNet also protested that the notices the MPAA's anti-piracy front group AFACt, was sending were deficient:
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They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
The original district court ruling was fantastic, and did such a great job illustrating <i>why</i> it makes <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">no sense</a> to blame third party service providers for infringement -- because infringement is not an absolute, but requires a court to decide what really is infringement.  As the original ruling stated:
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Regardless of the actual quality of the evidence gathering of DtecNet, copyright infringement is not a straight 'yes' or 'no' question. The Court has had to examine a very significant quantity of technical and legal detail over dozens of pages in this judgment in order to determine whether iiNet users, and how often iiNet users, infringe copyright by use of the BitTorrent system. The respondent had no such guidance before these proceedings came to be heard. The respondent apparently did not properly understand how the evidence of infringements underlying the AFACT Notices was gathered. The respondent was understandably reluctant to allege copyright infringement and terminate based on that allegation. However, the reasonableness of terminating subscribers on the basis of non-payment of fees does not dictate that warning and termination on the basis of AFACT Notices was equally reasonable. Unlike an allegation of copyright infringement, the respondent did not need a third party to provide evidence that its subscribers had not paid their fees before taking action to terminate an account for such reason. 
</i></blockquote>
In other words, just because someone accuses someone else of infringement, it's ridiculous for the ISP to automatically assume infringement has taken place.  That turns the basic concepts of due process on their head.  AFACT/MPAA appealed and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/00490713240/iinet-wins-again-australian-appeals-court-says-isp-not-responsible-copyright-infringers.shtml">lost again</a>, with the court once again pointing out that general knowledge that someone on your site infringes is not nearly enough to terminate or suspend users.
<br /><br />
This latest (and final) ruling basically takes the same stance.  The <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2012/16.html" target="_blank">full ruling</a> is a bit dry, but makes some salient points.  It notes, for example, that as a mere ISP, iiNet has absolutely nothing to do with BitTorrent and can't control the fact that some of its subscribers used BitTorrent.  It also notes that iiNet was not hosting any of the material, nor doing anything with the infringing material.  On top of that, it notes the pointlessness of AFACT/MPAA insisting that iiNet has to kick people off the internet:
<blockquote><i>
Termination of an iiNet account with a customer who has infringed will assuredly prevent the continuation of a specific act of communicating a film online using a particular .torrent file on a particular computer. Regrettably, however, on receiving a threat of such termination, it is possible for a customer to engage another ISP for access to the internet on that computer or access the internet on another computer using a different ISP. Whilst any new infringement would be just as serious as the specific primary infringements about which the appellants complain, this circumstance shows the limitations on iiNet's power to command a response from its customers, or to prevent continuing infringements by them. 
</i></blockquote>
And, once again, the court finds that mere notice of infringement certainly is not proof of infringement, and requiring iiNet to investigate further is too big a burden:
<blockquote><i>
Updating the investigative exercise in the AFACT notices would require iiNet to understand and apply DtecNet's methodology &#8211; which, among other things, involved a permission to DtecNet from AFACT to use the BitTorrent system to download the appellants' films. Before the filing of experts' reports in the proceedings, <b>the information in the AFACT notices did not approximate the evidence which would be expected to be filed in civil proceedings in which interlocutory relief was sought by a copyright owner in respect of an allegation of copyright infringement. Also, any wrongful termination of a customer's account could expose iiNet to risk of liabilit</b>y. These considerations highlight the danger to an ISP, which is neither a copyright owner nor a licensee, which terminates (or threatens to terminate) a customer's internet service in the absence of any industry protocol binding on all ISPs, or any, even interim, curial assessment of relevant matters.
<br /><br />
iiNet's inactivity after receipt of the AFACT notices was described by the appellants as demonstrating a sufficient degree of indifference to their rights to give rise to authorisation. However, the evidence showed that the inactivity was not the indifference of a company unconcerned with infringements of the appellants' rights. Rather, the true inference to be drawn is that iiNet was unwilling to act because of its assessment of the risks of taking steps based only on the information in the AFACT notices. Moreover, iiNet's customers could not possibly infer from iiNet's inactivity (if they knew about it), and the subsequent media releases (if they saw them), that iiNet was in a position to grant those customers rights to make the appellants' films available online. 
</i></blockquote>
All in all, this is a good ruling concerning copyright and secondary liability -- and a bunch of money down the drain for the MPAA, who <i>could</i> have spent this time helping its studios to innovate, but has instead focused on this quixotic legal strategy.
<br /><br />
Of course, it doesn't sound like this ruling will have the MPAA come to its senses either.  The AFACT front group is already claiming that the ruling means Australia must change its laws to turn ISPs into copyright cops:
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The Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (AFACT) is ramping up the pressure on the government to act. It said today's judgment exposed the failure of copyright law to keep pace with the online environment and the need for the government to act.
<br /><br />
"It would seem apparent that the current Australian Copyright Act isn't capable of protecting content once it hits the internet and peer-to-peer networks...," AFACT managing director Neil Gane said.
</i></blockquote>  
No, Neil, it's not Australian law that's the problem.  It's <i>reality</i>, and the fact that the movie studios refuse to bother to understand how the internet works and how they can adapt.  No law will fix this.  It will only make things worse.  And Gane and the MPAA should be careful, lest they think they can try to pass another SOPA down under.  I get the feeling that won't go over well.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/02110118571/hollywood-loses-its-big-copyright-lawsuit-against-isp-iinet-down-under.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Leaked State Department Cable Confirms What Everyone Already Knew: MPAA Was Behind Bogus Australian ISP Lawsuit</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ When it comes to copyright issues, the various State Department leaks via Wikileaks have only served to confirm what pretty much everyone already knew.  Earlier we'd covered revelations about US diplomatic involvement in new copyright laws in Spain, and the latest (as a bunch of you sent in) is the rather upfront admission that <a href="http://www.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/11/08CANBERR1197.html" target="_blank">the MPAA was absolutely behind the decision to sue iiNet</a> in Australia.  As you may recall, the lawsuit, which was officially organized by the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (AFACT) along with the Australian arms of various movie studios, complained that Australian ISP iiNet <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">didn't do enough to stop unauthorized file sharing</a>.  This was really a trial balloon of a case, because the MPAA knew damn well that blaming ISPs for the actions of their users was a tricky game to play.  So, they tried to hit up iiNet from a slight tangent, sending over examples of infringement and then freaking out when iiNet didn't somehow magically stop all infringement.
<br /><br />
Of course, the reality was that this was all driven directly from the MPAA in the US and iiNet was carefully chosen as a trial balloon given its size.  As Richard Chirgwin <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/31/afact_subcontractor_to_mpaa/" target="_blank">notes</a>, iiNet got to enjoy this experience because of its "Goldilocks status.  iiNet was just right: Telstra is large, loud, litigious, and possessed of significant lobbying experience; too small a target and the case risked inviting the &ldquo;bullying&rdquo; perception that the MPAA was keen to avoid."
<blockquote><i>
Despite the lead role of AFACT and the inclusion of 
Australian companies Village Roadshow and the Seven Network, 
this is an MPAA/American studios production.  Mike Ellis, the 
Singapore-based President for Asia Pacific of the Motion 
Picture Association, briefed Ambassador on the filing on 
November 26.  <b>Ellis confirmed that MPAA was the mover behind 
AFACT's case</b> (AFACT is essentially MPAA's Australian 
subcontractor; MPAA/MPA have no independent, formal presence 
here), acting on behalf of the six American studios involved. 
MPAA prefers that its leading role not be made public. 
<b>AFACT and MPAA worked hard to get Village Roadshow and the 
Seven Network to agree to be the public Australian faces on 
the case to make it clear there are Australian equities at 
stake, and this isn't just Hollywood "bullying some poor 
little Australian ISP." </b>
 <br /><br />
Why iiNet?  Ellis said they were the right target on 
several levels.  First, they are big enough to be important - 
iiNet is the third largest ISP in Australia.  (Telstra, 
owners of top Australian ISP BigPond which has about half of 
the market, are the "big guns", Ellis admitted.  <b>It was clear 
Ellis did not want to begin by tangling with Telstra, 
Australia's former telecom monopoly and still-dominant player 
in telephony and internet</b>, and a company with the financial 
resources and demonstrated willingness to fight hard and 
dirty, in court and out.)  Ellis also said iiNet users had a 
particularly high copyright violation rate, and that its 
management has been consistently unhelpful on copyright 
infringements. 
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Amusingly, the cable claims the case is "very strong."  Turns out that was wrong.  iiNet famously <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">won the case</a>, and AFACT was even told to pay iiNet's legal costs.  While an appeal <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/00490713240/iinet-wins-again-australian-appeals-court-says-isp-not-responsible-copyright-infringers.shtml">somewhat limited</a> the original (<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">excellent and perceptive</a>) ruling, it still crowned iiNet the winner.  Perhaps the US government shouldn't trust the MPAA in setting the odds on its own lawsuits.
<br /><br />
Anyway, while most people already knew that the MPAA was the key player here, it's nice to see it laid out in black and white.  I'm also curious if the folks who usually rush to the comments to claim that the MPAA/RIAA aren't involved in some of the lawsuits we talk about will have any comment on this, since we've explained that most of these legal actions are coordinated from those two groups.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110901/01544015760/leaked-state-department-cable-confirms-what-everyone-already-knew-mpaa-was-behind-bogus-australian-isp-lawsuit.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110901/01544015760/leaked-state-department-cable-confirms-what-everyone-already-knew-mpaa-was-behind-bogus-australian-isp-lawsuit.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110901/01544015760/leaked-state-department-cable-confirms-what-everyone-already-knew-mpaa-was-behind-bogus-australian-isp-lawsuit.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:12:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>iiNet Wins Again: Australian Appeals Court Says ISP Not Responsible For Copyright Infringers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A little over a year ago, in a huge victory for common sense, an Australian court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">ruled against some Hollywood studios</a> arguing that Australian ISP iiNet was legally liable for not magically blocking copyright infringement and punishing people the studios accused of infringement.  As iiNet explained, it had no reasonable way to act.  The studios would send notices to iiNet, but notices aren't proof, so iiNet told them to go to the police:
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They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
The court's ruling was a great read, and very carefully laid out why it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">makes no sense</a> for ISPs to be copyright cops, because determining whether or not something is infringing is a job for the <i>courts</i>, not some random company:
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Regardless of the actual quality of the evidence gathering of DtecNet, copyright infringement is not a straight 'yes' or 'no' question. The Court has had to examine a very significant quantity of technical and legal detail over dozens of pages in this judgment in order to determine whether iiNet users, and how often iiNet users, infringe copyright by use of the BitTorrent system. The respondent had no such guidance before these proceedings came to be heard. The respondent apparently did not properly understand how the evidence of infringements underlying the AFACT Notices was gathered. The respondent was understandably reluctant to allege copyright infringement and terminate based on that allegation. 
</i></blockquote>
Of course, the studios appealed -- falsely telling the press that the original ruling would mean that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100211/0158298127.shtml">unauthorized infringement was allowed in Austalia</a>.  But, of course, nothing was further from the truth.  The ruling simply said that ISPs weren't liable for the actions of their users, especially in copyright situations where it had no reasonable way to determine the veracity of claims from the studios.
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Thankfully, the appeals court has <a href="http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/iinet-wins-illegal-download-appeal-20110224-1b6m3.html" target="_blank">once again sided with iiNet</a> and dismissed the appeal, saying that it has no business being a copyright cop.  The ruling again noted that there was no reasonable way for iiNet to know who was really violating copyrights, and "general knowledge" simply isn't enough to put the liability on iiNet.
<blockquote><i>
"I do not think the respondent could reasonably be expected to issue warnings, or to terminate or suspend particular accounts, in reliance upon any such notice in circumstances where it has been told nothing at all about the methods used to obtain the information which led to the issue of the notice," Justice Nicholas said.
<br /><br />
"Nor should it be up to the respondent to seek out this information from a copyright owner who chooses not to provide it in the first place."
</i></blockquote>
It's expected that the anti-piracy group AFACT, who led this legal fight, will appeal to Australia's high court, but in the meantime, it's making a bunch of noise about how the government needs to step in and help.  Given the sort of lobbying power we see on this issue (including massive diplomatic pressure from the US), don't be surprised to see legal changes attempted on this issue quite soon.  However, politicians would be wise to heed the points raised in the original decision about the silliness of putting the burden on ISPs rather than the copyright holders -- the only ones who actually can reasonably do something in these situations.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/00490713240/iinet-wins-again-australian-appeals-court-says-isp-not-responsible-copyright-infringers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/00490713240/iinet-wins-again-australian-appeals-court-says-isp-not-responsible-copyright-infringers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/00490713240/iinet-wins-again-australian-appeals-court-says-isp-not-responsible-copyright-infringers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Appeal Of Important iiNet vs. AFACT Case Begins</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As you may recall, a bunch of movie studios <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">sued</a> popular ISP iiNet for failing to somehow wave a magic wand and stop file sharing.  Thankfully, the Australian court quickly realized this was ridiculous and issued a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">thorough and convincing ruling</a> that it made no sense to consider iiNet liable for copyright infringement done by its users.  The judge pointed out that there's no evidence that iiNet "approved infringement."  The judge also made it clear why it's nonsensical to think that ISPs should serve as copyright cops, since a determination on whether or not something is infringing <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">takes place in a court</a>, not by random ISP employees.
<br /><br />
Not surprisingly, the movie studios and AFACT (the "anti-piracy" organization representing them) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0351288306.shtml">appealed the ruling</a>, claiming that somehow the lack of stopping copyright infringement was effectively <i>"authorizing"</i> copyright infringement.  That seems like a huge stretch, but the appeal has begun and AFACT is now <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/day-one-afact-v-iinet-bittorrent-piracy-appeal-100802/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">trying to make the case that not blocking users or kicking them off</a> is the equivalent of authorization.  Hopefully the appeals court recognizes the wisdom of the lower court ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100802/03120810449.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100802/03120810449.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100802/03120810449.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:53:21 PST</pubDate>
<title>And Of Course: AFACT Appeals iiNet Ruling</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This isn't a huge surprise, but down in Australia, AFACT, a group representing the major movie studios, which had already <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-loses-in-court-doesnt-want-to-pay-costs-100222/" target="_blank">fought</a> having to pay iiNet's legal fees after <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">getting trounced</a> in court, is <a href="http://www.news.com.au/business/appeal-lodged-in-iinet-copyright-case/story-e6frfm1i-1225834284298" target="_blank">appealing the ruling itself</a>.  You had to figure this would happen.  The studios weren't going to go down without a fight.  The main part of the appeal is AFACT claiming that iiNet somehow <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/168136,revealed-copyright-101-challenge-to-iinet-victory.aspx">authorized copyright infringement</a> by not stopping infringement:
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"The court found large scale copyright infringements, that iiNet knew they were occurring, that iiNet had the contractual and technical capacity to stop them and iiNet did nothing about them."
</i></blockquote>
But that actually ignores both reality and what the ruling said.  What it found was that, indeed, large scale infringement was occurring, but that it was <i>impossible</i> for iiNet to be an effective copyright cop since <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">copyright infringement was something for the court to decide</a>, not for some ISP to just guess.  Either way, this case won't be over for quite some time...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0351288306.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0351288306.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100225/0351288306.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:44:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Once Again: The iiNet Decision Did Not Make Unauthorized Downloading Legit</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Duncan points us to an article written by Australian actor Roy Billing <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/piracy-is-not-victimless-just-ask-any-actor-20100210-nrgk.html?autostart=1" target="_blank">complaining about the recent iiNet decision</a> and going on to bitch about all the people "stealing" from him when they download an unauthorized copy of a film.  What's nice is that if you look through the comments on the article, the vast majority of them are well-informed and explain, quite clearly, why Mr. Billing doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.  It's really great to see this sort of response on nearly every article that pops up like this.  More and more people are understanding the basic mechanisms of the market, and they're speaking out when people pretend that the world should adjust to them, rather than they should adjust to the world.
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But our industry, worldwide, is under threat from piracy. Those who illicitly copy movies and sell them as cheap DVDs and who illegally download movies from the internet are jeapordising the future of homegrown Australian TV and films. Free access to the internet is fine but not when used to access our content for free.
</i></blockquote>
Who gets free access to the internet?
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Last week a very important case brought by the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft against one of the internet providers, iinet, over its failure to stop illegal downloads of films and TV shows found in favour of the internet provider. I am disappointed with this court ruling and believe that in view of the constantly changing online environment, the federal government should be looking at the current situation and drafting legislation accordingly.
</i></blockquote>
Why?  Seriously.  Why should it be the responsibility of a third party to get between a civil dispute between two parties?  It makes no sense.  And, as the court clearly pointed out (though, it does not appear Mr. Billing actually read the decision) the problem is that copyright infringement is not just something that "you know it when you see it."  It's a lot more complex than that, requiring a trial to actually ascertain infringement.  Simply telling ISPs that they have to stop infringement on accusation makes little sense.
<br /><br />
But Mr. Billing implies that the ruling effectively legalized unauthorized downloading, when it did nothing of the sort.  It simply said that studios should not and cannot rely on someone else to try to step in and protect their old business model.  The real issue, though, is that the studios don't want to adapt and don't want to try new business models.  But, in Mr. Billing's world, the old business model is the only possible business model:
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In Australia, film and TV budgets are usually low and we actors often take lower fees than normal so a production can be filmed. We hope that extra income will come from residuals or royalty payments from overseas sales and sales of DVDs.
<br /><br />
Contrary to popular belief most movies do not become profitable from their theatrical releases. A movie depends on its full life cycle from cinema tickets to DVD sales to online distribution before producers and investors can recoup their investment. 
</i></blockquote>
Yes, that's the way the business has been done for the last couple of decades, but things change.  In fact, this is not, at all, how business was done just a short while ago.  While Mr. Billing insists that actors "rely" on homesales of DVDs in the aftermarket, it was just about twenty-five years ago when Jack Valenti of the MPAA warned that: "I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone."
<br /><br />
According to IMDB, Mr. Billing <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006355/" target="_blank">began his movie career in 1982</a>, the same year that Valenti made that speech.  Thus, it seems unlikely that Mr. Billing got into acting because he thought that home sales of VHS tapes were going to be where he made his living.  It wasn't the case at all in 1982, and as Valenti pointed out, the industry was incorrectly scared that the VHS would kill the movie business.  Yet, now, Billing is insisting that the market can't change again and he can't get revenue elsewhere?  Why must the market be frozen now when it's adapted so well in the past?
<blockquote><i>
</i><i>Underbelly Three</i>, for example, could not happen unless the people that produced and invested in <i>Underbelly Two</i> got a return on their investment. Just like any business situation.
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Absolutely.  But, "just like any business situation," when a market changes, it's up to the producers in that market to adapt their business model to what the market wants -- not to demand legislation that tries to hold back technology and innovation to pretend the world is the way it used to be.  Lots of filmmakers are adapting.  If Billing is working with those who have chosen not to, he should look for work with smarter producers.
<br /><br />
There are lots of ways for films to earn a return on investment.  But they need to provide consumers with a reason to buy.  Theater showings continue to do that -- and, as we've seen, box office sales have continued to climb at a good clip year after year.  DVDs might no longer be a good reason to buy, but the challenge is for the studios to come up with alternatives.
<blockquote><i>
Anyone who illegally downloads a movie or a TV show from the internet is taking money out of the pockets of everyone who was involved in it. And they are making it harder for us to carry on.
</i></blockquote>
Neither statement is even remotely true.  What about the person who downloads the movie and then decides to go see the film on the big screen?  What about the person who downloads the movie, and loves it so much, he gets a bunch of friends together to go see the film?  And, what people <i>choose</i> to do is not making it harder for the industry to carry on.  It's the choices the <i>industry</i> is making in not adapting and using new business models.
<br /><br />
Sorry, Mr. Billing, but just as when you got started in 1982, the world changes, markets change, and it's time for you and your friends to change to -- not demand that the government pass unworkable laws that try to stop people from doing what they want to do.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100211/0158298127.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100211/0158298127.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100211/0158298127.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:53:30 PST</pubDate>
<title>Australian ISP Stops Kicking People Off The Internet Following iiNet Ruling</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It looks like the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">iiNet ruling</a> is already having some positive impact in Australia.  The <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">crux</a> of the ruling is that copyright infringement is not an "I know it when I see it" violation, but rather a complex issue that requires a court to weigh in.  Asking an ISP to simply assume that someone is infringing, and thus to kick them off, is problematic and potentially goes against basic due process.  It appears that other ISPs are now realizing that they were being too hasty in blocking internet access.  Competing ISP Exetel, who used to block access to accused file sharers, has now <a href="http://freakbits.com/isp-stops-suspending-accounts-on-copyright-accusations-0209?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Freakbits %28freakbits.com%29" target="_blank">announced a change of policy</a>.  Of course, it could have stood up for its customers' rights in the first place, like iiNet did...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100209/1513428102.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100209/1513428102.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100209/1513428102.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Feb 2010 06:45:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Copyright Industry Responds To iiNet Ruling By Asking For Gov't Bailout; Aussie Gov't 'Studying' It</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ So, the Australian court ruling in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">favor of iiNet</a> was quite brilliant, not just in getting the technology and the law (and common sense) right, but also in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">explaining why</a> it wouldn't make much sense to change the law either.  But, of course, that's not the way the big industries that rely on copyright as crutch operate.  If they don't get their way, they go crying to the gov't to have their business models propped up and thrust into the law.  So, of course, the "anti-piracy" (i.e., the "we can't adapt so let's drag the whole world backwards") group AFACT has already jumped out and <a href="http://itnews.com.au/News/166371,video-afact-demands-govt-curb-online-piracy.aspx" target="_blank">demanded that the Australian government change the law</a> in response to the ruling.  And, of course, the Australian government says it's <a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/335115/conroy_reticent_reform_/">"examining"</a> the issue.
<br /><br />
Of course, this just shows how far gone AFACT and its members (Hollywood studios mainly) are out of touch with what this ruling is saying.  The ruling points out, quite clearly, that the problem isn't with the law and it's not with the technology.  Changing the law doesn't fix things.  The problem is with how the big movie studios have <i>failed to adapt</i>, and are now blaming totally blameless parties for their own failures.  The proper response is: "Okay, it's time to come up with better business models."  It's not to ask the government to artificially blame a third party that had nothing to do with the infringement.  It's really a rather stunning statement of incompetence that any industry thinks the cure to their own business model failures is to legally make an innocent third party responsible.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1508258054.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1508258054.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1508258054.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:22:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Decision In iiNet Case Explains Why ISPs Cannot Effectively Be Copyright Cops</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We already covered the basics of the Australian court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">ruling</a> in favor of iiNet yesterday, but if you read the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2010/24.html" target="_blank">full ruling</a> you begin to realize what a well  reasoned argument the judge made, and hopefully it can become the basis of future rulings on this particular topic.  The judge clearly took the time to understand the actual issues, and understand how BitTorrent works, how the internet functions, and making sure that he didn't cut corners and assume that things in the digital world were exactly analogous to the physical world.  It's one of the more clueful rulings you'll read.  Michael Geist has <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4760/125/" target="_blank">highlighted a few sections</a> that do such a great job of explaining why ISPs should never be copyright cops.  It's an argument that we've <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091229/1920547542.shtml">tried to make in the past</a>, but which the judge does quite eloquently.  Basically, he notes that determining whether or not something is infringing is <i>not easy</i>, and requires a sophisticated court, not the random claims of a right holder or the suspicions of some third party:
<blockquote><i>
Regardless of the actual quality of the evidence gathering of DtecNet, <b>copyright infringement is not a straight 'yes' or 'no' question. The Court has had to examine a very significant quantity of technical and legal detail over dozens of pages in this judgment in order to determine whether iiNet users, and how often iiNet users, infringe copyright by use of the BitTorrent system</b>. The respondent had no such guidance before these proceedings came to be heard. The respondent apparently did not properly understand how the evidence of infringements underlying the AFACT Notices was gathered. The respondent was understandably reluctant to allege copyright infringement and terminate based on that allegation. However, the reasonableness of terminating subscribers on the basis of non-payment of fees does not dictate that warning and termination on the basis of AFACT Notices was equally reasonable. Unlike an allegation of copyright infringement, the respondent did not need a third party to provide evidence that its subscribers had not paid their fees before taking action to terminate an account for such reason.
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Furthermore, the court found that it's troubling to have ISPs cutting off users based on accusations, without a court weighing in on the actual details:
<blockquote><i>
One need only consider the lengthy, complex and necessary deliberations of the Court upon the question of primary infringement to appreciate that the nature of copyright infringements within the BitTorrent system, and the concept of 'repeat infringer', are not self-evident. It is highly problematic to conclude that such issues ought to be decided by a party, such as the respondent, rather than a court. Copyright infringement is not a simple issue. Such problems as identified are not insurmountable, but they do weigh against a finding that the respondent could conclusively decide that infringement had occurred and that it had the relevant power to prevent by warning, suspension or termination of subscriber accounts, even if it had the technical capability to do so.
</i></blockquote>
These arguments are important, though often brushed aside as meaningless by supporters of turning ISPs into copyright cops or expanding the concept of contributory or secondary liability for copyright.  They claim "but of course people know what's infringing," when the truth is it's not that easy.  A third party has little way of knowing whether or not content was released on purpose, or if it's use is fair use.  Those sorts of things require a sophisticated legal analysis, done in a court -- not by the copyright holder with a demand that the ISP take action.  It's great that this court recognized this issue clearly, and hopefully others will start to follow suit.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0103238038.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:19:07 PST</pubDate>
<title>iiNet Wins! AFACT Has To Pay.  Australian Court Says ISPs Not Responsible For Infringing Users</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Another victory for common sense.  Down in Australia, we've covered the lawsuit <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">filed by movie studios</a> against popular ISP iiNet.  The studios were upset that iiNet wasn't doing enough to stop unauthorized access to movies by its users.  iiNet took a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml">very strong pro-consumer stand</a>, and pointed out that it had no reason to act as the movie studio's personal police force:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
The company claimed further that based on Australian law, its customers actually <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">weren't violating copyright law</a> in trading files directly, since the law only covered distributing content "publicly" and a one-to-one trade is not "public."  Furthermore, it argued that the studios' demand that it monitor its customers activities would <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0218425942.shtml">violate Australia's telecom act</a> and violate users' privacy rights.
<br /><br />
Not surprisingly, a lot of folks have been waiting for the verdict and it's in!  The court <a href="http://itnews.com.au/News/166348,iinet-wins-film-industrys-case-torn-to-shreds.aspx" target="_blank">has ruled in favor of iiNet</a>, saying that just because it provides access, it does not mean it is a party to infringement.  Not only that, the court has told AFACT, the Australian anti-piracy organization that handled the case, that it needs to pay iiNet's legal fees. The ruling looks fantastic.  Some snippets from the ITnews article linked above:
<blockquote><i>
"I find that iiNet simply can't be seen as approving infringement," said Justice Cowdroy.
<br /><br />
Justice Cowdroy found iiNet users had infringed copyright by downloading films on BitTorrent, but he found that the number of infringers was far less than alleged by AFACT.
<br /><br />
More importantly, Justice Cowdroy said that the "mere provision of access to internet is not the means to infringement".
<br /><br />
"Copyright infringement occured as result of use of BitTorrent, not the Internet," he said. "iiNet has no control over BitTorrent system and not responsible for BitTorrent system."
<br /><br />
The fact worldwide piracy was rife "does not necessitate or compel a finding of authorisation, just because it is felt there is something that must be done", he said.
</i></blockquote>
This is a huge victory for those who believe that the efforts by copyright holders to push secondary liability on ISPs is a very dangerous policy.  It's great to see the court get this one right.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100203/1516058028.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:08:02 PST</pubDate>
<title>If You Only Share A Tiny Bit Of A File Via BitTorrent, Is It Still Copyright Infringement?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/0257247021.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've mentioned the ongoing <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?site=&#038;cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&#038;cof=FORID%3A9&#038;ie=ISO-8859-1&#038;q=iinet">lawsuit against ISP iiNet</a> in Australia a few times.  Basically, the movie studios are pissed off at iiNet because it didn't do much in response to letters that were sent concerning IP addresses of those that the studios believed were sharing unauthorized works.  As iiNet noted, however, it didn't see why it was involved in any of this:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
The trial has been going on recently, and while I haven't been following the details that closely (figure it's worth waiting for the verdict), there was one interesting tidbit.  As the company had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">suggested earlier</a>, it's arguing that <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/afact-v-iinet-tiny-bits-of-bittorrent-transfers-arent-illegal-091119/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">sharing a file via BitTorrent is arguably not copyright infringement at all</a>.  That's because of the way BitTorrent works, in breaking up any file into tiny components and sharing the individual pieces.  A key element of copyright law is looking at how much of the content is shared.  Down in Australia, they have a "fair dealing" exception to copyright law that appears to allow for copying small portions of a work, and some precedent of short video clips not being considered infringing.
<br /><br />
While I would be quite surprised if this argument worked (even if it may be technically correct, it's so rare that judges pay attention to the technical aspects when it comes to copyright), I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen this argued elsewhere as well.  Of course, if it does actually work, it will only turn the focus back towards the question of whether or not "making available" violates the distribution right of copyright, since that would cover what BitTorrent users were doing, if they offered up any unauthorized content (even if they actually shared only a tiny fraction).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/0257247021.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/0257247021.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/0257247021.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:55:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>iiNet Says Complying With Anti-Piracy Complaints Would Violate Telecom Laws</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0218425942.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been following the lawsuit down in Australia, where AFACT, the local entertainment industry "anti-piracy" group, has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">sued ISP iiNet</a>, complaining that the ISP refused to do anything when it would send over infringement notices.  From the beginning, iiNet's response has been clear:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'.
</i></blockquote>
AFACT continues to insist that iiNet should be responsible for becoming copyright cops themselves, and had won an early battle, forcing iiNet to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090616/1638505258.shtml">hand over "sample" records</a> of users.  However, Big Al points us to the latest news, where iiNet is claiming that not complying with AFACT's usual demands (it is handing over the sample data after working out the details) isn't just an issue of iiNet not wanting to be AFACT's enforcer, but <a href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/iiNet-invokes-Telco-Act-in-AFACT-defence-/0,130061791,339298037,00.htm?feed=rss" target="_new">that it violates Australia's telecom act</a>, and could be a serious breach of privacy laws:
<blockquote><i>
"Under the Act, it is illegal for iiNet to use customers' personal information in the manner demanded by AFACT without a court order or warrant. Breaches of the privacy provisions of the Act can attract a two-year gaol sentence."
</i></blockquote>
Separately, iiNet noted:
<blockquote><i>
"To examine customer communications on the basis of a third party's allegations would be a criminal act for us to engage in."
<br /><br />
"Our starting position on this would be there is good public policy reasons for why Australia Post should not be opening your letters. And good reasons for why carriers should not be listening to your phone calls or looking at what you download.  Our view is that would constitute a criminal offence."
</i></blockquote>
It should come as no surprise that AFACT isn't buying this, calling it a "very novel" argument and one it hadn't seen before, and claiming that IP address information is not the sort of information that's meant to be included under the telco act, since it's not really "confidential."  This case just gets more and more fun to watch (though, if I had to guess, iiNet's arguments probably won't prevail).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0218425942.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0218425942.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090820/0218425942.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:54:10 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Orders iiNet To Hand Over Sample Records Of Customers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090616/1638505258.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ iiNet is the Australian ISP that has been standing up for its customers' rights against the entertainment industry which is suing the ISP for not <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">magically</a> stopping copyright infringement.  iiNet's argument, from the very beginning, has been that if the entertainment industry believes that iiNet customers are breaking the law, then they should sue those customers.  It shouldn't be iiNet's responsibility to act as the industry's police:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
iiNet has also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">raised questions</a> about whether or not a user making use of BitTorrent is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">technically</a> violating copyright, especially since they may only be sharing a tiny fragment of a file based on the way BitTorrent works.
<br /><br />
Either way, a court has now <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/105569,iinet-ordered-to-hand-over-customer-records.aspx" target="_new">ordered iiNet to hand over a small sampling of customer data requested by the anti-piracy group AFACT</a>, which AFACT claims will show infringing activities on the part of iiNet subscribers.  Of course, it would be no surprise at all that a group of folks <i>hand picked</i> by the industry can be shown to be infringing.  The real legal question is whether or not (a) there's enough evidence to prove who was actually infringing and (b) more importantly, why this is iiNet's responsibility.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090616/1638505258.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090616/1638505258.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090616/1638505258.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Movie Studios Continue To Demand Australian ISP Admit To Supporting Piracy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/2316114916.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall last November that a bunch of movie studios got together and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">sued Australian ISP iiNet</a>, for not being able to wave a magic wand and make all unauthorized file sharing among its users disappear.  The ISP, who has taken a very pro-consumer stance, responded by noting that if there's any "theft" involved, it should be a matter for the police to investigate, not an ISP to take action based on allegations alone:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
In March, the company further explained its defense, noting that direct file sharing between two individuals <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">doesn't appear to violate Australian copyright laws</a>, since there's no "public" distribution of the material.
<br><br>
The latest, as pointed out by <a href="http://twitter.com/CopyrightLaw/statuses/1833010643">Michael Scott</a>, is that the studios are basically stomping their feet and <a href="http://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/20090518-iinet-pressured-to-admit-users-acted-illegally-in-copyright-case.html" target="_new">demanding that iiNet admit that it broke copyright law</a>.
<br><Br>
To be honest, it appears the two sides are talking past one another.  The studios insist that iiNet is breaking the law by not taking action against file sharers, while iiNet is pointing out that's not the issue.  It's saying it would be perfectly happy to take action against those <i>convicted</i> in a court of violating the law.  But it can't just take the studio's word for it, and so it sees no reason to act until a court has convicted someone.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/2316114916.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/2316114916.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/2316114916.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:02:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Austalian ISP Stands Up For Users In Court -- Claims They're Not Violating Copyright</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Late last year, a bunch of movie studios <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">sued</a> Australian ISP iiNet (which already has a reputation for standing up for its users) for not waving a magic wand and stopping any unauthorized file sharing that occurred among its customers.  iiNet <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml">responded</a> by pointing out the obvious: if the studios feel they've been wronged, they should take it up with the police, not iiNet.  In fact, they said they pass such complaints directly to the police:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
The case is moving forward now, and iiNet has kicked things off by suggesting that users sharing files on a one-to-one basis via BitTorrent <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/iinet-faces-the-music-in-landmark-case/2009/03/25/1237656984092.html" target="_new">don't seem to be violating Australian copyright law</a>.  Specifically, iiNet seems to be saying that using BitTorrent doesn't violate copyright because a one-to-one trade isn't distributing the content publicly (a version of the "making available" debate still going on in the US in some circles) and also pointing out that since BitTorrent breaks files up into so many small pieces, no individual user appears to be distributing enough to be considered copyright infringement.
<br /><br />
While the argument does, in fact, make plenty of sense -- I wonder if it will actually fly in court.  The entertainment industry has convinced so many people that any sort of unauthorized use of content is "piracy" that an emotional argument may prevail.  In fact, the movie studios already seem to be going for the emotional argument expressing shock that iiNet can claim that its customers aren't violating copyright law.
<br /><br />
The case will be an interesting one to follow -- though, you know if iiNet prevails, lobbyists will move quite quickly to push the Australian government to change copyright law to clarify the issue.  Just watch: if it happens, there will be a rash of stories about how Australia "has to" do this to "comply with international treaties."  It's how these things work.
<br /><br />
To be honest, I'm surprised iiNet is taking such an extreme position.  It seems like sticking with the "we're just the neutral service provider" response would have a higher likelihood of success.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090325/1836414257.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:09:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Details Emerge On Australian Lawsuit Against ISPs For Failing To Stop Piracy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last month, we wrote about the lawsuit filed by various movie studios, against Australian ISP iiNet for failing to wave a magic wand and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">wipe out piracy</a>.  Apparently, the reason the studios thought they had a slam dunk case was because they hired an "investigator" who <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/movie-studios-spied-on-isps-bittorrent-users-081216/" target="_new">signed up with iiNet's service, purposely shared movies</a>, and then had the studios complain to see if iiNet would cut him off.  Since it did not, the studios claim that iiNet knew about piracy and did nothing about it.  Leaving aside the point that it wasn't actually copyright infringement in the case of the investigator, since he was authorized to distribute the content, and the takedown notice would likely be a false notification, iiNet's response (which we mentioned when the case first came out) seems to still be dead on:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'. 
</i></blockquote>
So, iiNet <i>did</i> take appropriate action.  It alerted the police that a company felt laws were being broken.  That seems like it should be the extent of any ISP's engagement when sent such flimsy evidence.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081217/0159503147.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:11:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Movie Studios Sue Australian ISP For Not Waving Magic Wand And Defeating Piracy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few years ago, after realizing that blaming consumers wasn't a particularly effective strategy in covering up for the entertainment industry's own inability to adapt to a changing market, industry insiders chose a new strategy: <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080701/0241361562.shtml">blame ISPs</a>.  That sent them down a path of trying to force ISPs to do a variety of things, such as installing filters, policing their networks for copyright-infringing material and, of course, kicking users off their networks.  In the mind of entertainment industry execs, a failure to do any of these things should be a crime.  Note how the industry totally shifts responsibility here.  Rather than admitting that <i>they</i> should change with the market, it's always someone <i>else</i> who needs to change to protect the entertainment industry's obsolete business model.
<br /><br />
While the industry has been able to get some politicians and ISPs to agree (amazingly, often against their own best interests), it's now gone a step further.  A bunch of the biggest movie studios (Village Roadshow, Universal Pictures, Warner Bros Entertainment, Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, Disney Enterprises, and the Seven Network) have <a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/268184/film_industry_sues_iinet_over_bittorrent_downloads?fp=2&#038;fpid=1" target="_new">teamed up to sue Australia's largest ISP, iiNet</a>, for failing to stop copyright infringement.  iiNet, you may recall, is the same ISP that has been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081118/0331192866.shtml">mocking</a> the Australian government for requiring filters.  So, naturally, it's response to this lawsuit is rather direct.  While the studios complain that iiNet isn't doing anything, iiNet responds that this is not true at all.  They pass each complaint on to the police, because if there's a crime, then the police should deal with it:
<blockquote><i>
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'.
<br /><br />
We are not traffic cops. We can't stand in the middle of it and stop the individual items that might be against the law. These guys are asking us to be judge, jury and executioner.
</i></blockquote>
Even better, iiNet's CEO Michael Malone gets to the heart of the matter:
<blockquote><i>
I think they genuinely believe that ISPs have a secret magic wand that we are hiding and if we bring it out we can make piracy disappear just by waving it. And it doesn't exist.
</i></blockquote>
Indeed, but that might mean that the entertainment industry has to actually take responsibility for their own business model failings, and they can't do that.  So they <i>have</i> to blame others.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081120/1214592902.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Australian ISP Agrees To Filter... Just To Show How Stupid It Is</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Australian politicians have been pushing to censor the internet for years, with its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081013/1135502530.shtml">latest initiative</a> being the most extreme and most ridiculous.  Of course, even though each and every past effort by the Australian government has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070827/013237.shtml">failed miserably</a>, they always seem to think that <i>this time</i> it will be different.  At least the largest Australian ISP thinks the government is out of its mind.  The CEO of iiNet has agreed to sign up for the filters, but <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Australia-ISPs-Call-Net-Filtering-Plan-Ridiculous-99084" target="_new">only to collect hard data in order to prove to the government "how stupid" the plan is</a>:
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"They're not listening to the experts, they're not listening to the industry, they're not listening to consumers, so perhaps some hard numbers will actually help.  Every time a kid manages to get through this filter, we'll be publicising it and every time it blocks legitimate content, we'll be publicising it."
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Good for them, though it seems unlikely to work.  In the past when similarly ineffectual filters were demonstrated, Australian officials just interpreted it to mean they needed to pass stricter laws.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081118/0331192866.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081118/0331192866.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081118/0331192866.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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