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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:19:55 PST</pubDate>
<title>Court Won't Block CNET From Offering BitTorrent Downloads: Not In The Public Interest To Stifle Public Discussion</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/00203822034/court-wont-block-cnet-offering-bittorrent-downloads-not-public-interest-to-stifle-public-discussion.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've talked before about rich guy Alki David's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110504/12543914144/silly-lawsuit-filed-against-cbs-because-subsidiary-cnet-offered-limewire-download.shtml">"revenge" lawsuit</a> against CBS for its lawsuit against his internet TV service.  He and some musicians he's convinced to join the lawsuit are alleging, ridiculously, that CBS should be liable for infringement itself, based on a convoluted copyright liability theory (and by "convoluted" we mean "totally bogus") involving the fact that CNET, which is owned by CBS Interactive, offers downloads of file sharing software on its Download.com platform, while its News.com news and reviews site have published news stories and reviews about using file sharing software.  Late last year, they took the case to another level seeking <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02590921027/musicians-weave-elaborate-cnet-conspiracy-theory-attempt-to-get-bittorrent-banned.shtml">an injunction</a> against all BitTorrent downloads from CBS Interactive sites.
<br /><br />
CBS hit back, not surprisingly, arguing that it would interfere with CBS's editorial mission, and that it would <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/cbs-fights-any-ruling-bans-415833" target="_blank">be against the public interest</a>.  Of course, this seemed more than a bit ironic, given CBS's own <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19332021673/cbss-censorship-cnet-may-undermine-different-cbs-lawsuit.shtml">interference</a> with CNET's editorial concerning copyright lawsuits that CBS is involved in.  Last week, the artists <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/cbs-and-cnet-liable-for-all-bittorrent-piracy-artists-tell-court-130214/" target="_blank">tried again</a> for an injunction, claiming incredibly that:
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Because CBSI distributed several torrent software programs and encouraged infringement on torrent networks, CBSI is liable for all infringement on the torrent network.
</i></blockquote>
Say what now?  That's not how the law works, and thankfully, the judge recognized that pretty quickly.  Yesterday, <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/605158-031116273632.html" target="_blank">the judge denied the injunction attempt</a> with a fairly simple statement.  The judge makes it pretty clear that merely knowing that BitTorrent software is used to infringe doesn't make you liable for those infringements by offering the software for download.  That's just not how the law works.  At all.  The key bits are here (full thing embedded below):
<blockquote><i>
Plaintiffs have not shown any likelihood that Defendants will be found liable for
their continuing activities.  There is ample evidence of BitTorrent&#8217;s &#8211; and other P2P
software&#8217;s &#8211; ability to infringe copyrights and that a large number of individuals use the
software to infringe.  Defendants are clearly aware of both of these facts. <b>However, inducement of infringement requires more than just knowledge of actual or potential
infringement</b>.  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd. 545 U.S. 913, 937
(2005).  While there might be some evidence of past inducement of copyright
infringement, there is no evidence of any ongoing distribution of any file sharing
software &#8220;with the object of promoting its use to infringe copyright, as shown by clear
expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement.&#8221;
</i></blockquote>
In other words, the court properly recognized that this was yet another attempt to expand the ruling in the Grokster case which, while a bad ruling overall, laid out the rules for what is considered "inducement."  What CBS is doing is clearly not inducement.  The court notes that even if an argument could be made that CBS "induced" infringement in the past (still unlikely) there needs to be at least some evidence that it might happen again if the court is going to issue an injunction.
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The Court is well-aware that injunctions are often properly imposed where
allegedly wrongful conduct has ceased.  However, there must be at least some evidence
that future infringement may occur.  Here, Plaintiffs&#8217; only solid evidence of possible
inducement comes from reviews that were published a decade ago.... The other articles cited by Plaintiffs merely discuss P2P issues, including
legitimate distribution through P2P, and the various technological and legal issues that
have emerged with the technologies.  (See id., Ex. M, O, T, U, V, X.)  The Court has no
reason to believe that Defendants will purposefully encourage copyright infringement
now or in the foreseeable future. 
</i></blockquote>
Finally, the court notes that such an injunction is "not in the public interest" and calls out David and the other plaintiffs for trying to "silence public discussion of P2P technologies."
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The nature of some of the supposedly problematic articles also demonstrates that
an injunction is not in the public interest.  Most of the articles cited by Plaintiffs are
straightforward, legitimate news articles that do not in any way encourage or induce
copyright infringement.  This suggests that Plaintiffs&#8217; goal goes far beyond stopping
actual infringement by Defendants and extends instead to silencing public discussion of
P2P technologies.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, the case is far from over.  This was just looking at whether or not the court should issue an injunction to stop CBS Interactive from offering BitTorrent clients for download.  There's still plenty more to go before this ridiculous case hopefully ends up on the scrapheap.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/00203822034/court-wont-block-cnet-offering-bittorrent-downloads-not-public-interest-to-stifle-public-discussion.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/00203822034/court-wont-block-cnet-offering-bittorrent-downloads-not-public-interest-to-stifle-public-discussion.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/00203822034/court-wont-block-cnet-offering-bittorrent-downloads-not-public-interest-to-stifle-public-discussion.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:29:55 PST</pubDate>
<title>CNET Reports On Losing CES 'Best In Show' Powers, But Hides Byline</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ So we just wrote about how CEA had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11105221840/cea-takes-away-cnets-role-picking-ces-best-show-awards-dish-hopper-best-show.shtml">taken away</a> CNET's ability to name the "best of show" product at CES (then re-named the Dish Hopper with Sling as the Best in Show as CNET staff had originally intended).  Somewhat surprisingly, given the publications' reluctance to say too much about all of this so far, CNET, itself, <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57566906-93/cea-gives-dish-hopper-with-sling-best-of-show-award/" target="_blank">reported the story</a>, talking about itself in an almost creepily bland manner, and never even noting the oddity that it is reporting on itself.  However, one tidbit stands out:
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See that byline?  It just says "CNET News staff" rather than naming whoever wrote it.  I cannot recall ever seeing that before on CNET.  At the very least, it raises some questions.  Is this a form of a "byline strike" that some journalists have used to protest management practices at other publications?  Is it CNET cowardice in reporting on stories that reflect poorly on CNET?  Is it a random cry for help among CNET reporters, blinking furiously as a signal to the outside world, while trapped inside their CBS-imposed-editorially-compromised prisons, letting us know they're alive and want out?  I'm betting on that last one.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/16441921845/cnet-reports-losing-ces-best-show-powers-hides-byline.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/16441921845/cnet-reports-losing-ces-best-show-powers-hides-byline.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/16441921845/cnet-reports-losing-ces-best-show-powers-hides-byline.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:55:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>CEA Takes Away CNET's Role In Picking CES Best In Show; Awards Dish Hopper 'Best In Show'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11105221840/cea-takes-away-cnets-role-picking-ces-best-show-awards-dish-hopper-best-show.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ The saga of CBS's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml">braindead</a> decision to interfere with CNET editorial and order reporters to take Dish's Hopper DVR out of the running for "best in show" (after they'd already given it the award) continues to have fallout.  Beyond having one of its top reporters <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/10270121658/cnet-reporter-resigns-over-cbs-interference-dish-ces-award.shtml">resign</a> in protest, while having <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130125/08230821788/cnet-you-cant-trust-our-reviews-you-can-trust-our-news-honestly.shtml">morale falling</a> and, of course, handing Dish a perfect <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130121/16123721746/dish-turns-cbs-actions-against-it-touts-its-revoked-best-show-status-with-damning-footnote.shtml">marketing</a> opportunity, now it has pissed off the Consumer Electronics Association as well.
<br /><br />
You see, CNET's "Best in Show" award wasn't just for CNET itself, but for the official CES show.  Part of CNET's deal with CEA was that its picks for "Best of CES" were the <i>official</i> awards for CES.  Until now.  CEA boss Gary Shapiro first <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/01/30/cbs-cnet-ces-hopper-sling/1877291/" target="_blank">slammed CBS</a> in an editorial, and then CEA followed that up by <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/31/3937476/cnet-loses-ces-awards-following-dish-hopper-controversy-dvr-named" target="_blank">officially ending CNET's position as the official picker of the "Best in Show" for CES</a>.  In trying to save face, someone from CBS told The Verge (in the link above) that it "had already determined it would not attempt to partner with CES for the awards again."  Yeah, sure.
<br /><br />
Oh yeah.  CES also has now <a href="http://www.cesweb.org/News/CES-Press-Releases/CES-Press-Release.aspx?NodeID=f6a52fe4-1e93-4108-a2de-6dfe11ede40a" target="_blank">officially named the Dish Hopper with Sling as "Best of Show"</a> saying it's now the "co-winner" with the Razer Edge gaming tablet that CNET chose after CBS suits stepped in and decimated their editorial independence.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11105221840/cea-takes-away-cnets-role-picking-ces-best-show-awards-dish-hopper-best-show.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11105221840/cea-takes-away-cnets-role-picking-ces-best-show-awards-dish-hopper-best-show.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130131/11105221840/cea-takes-away-cnets-role-picking-ces-best-show-awards-dish-hopper-best-show.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:26:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>CNET: You Can't Trust Our Reviews, But You Can Trust Our News! Honestly!</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130125/08230821788/cnet-you-cant-trust-our-reviews-you-can-trust-our-news-honestly.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ The fallout from CBS's ridiculously short-sighted <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml">interference</a> with CNET's editorial process, concerning staffers awarding Dish's new DVR "best of show" at CES, continues to cause problems.  Whle one of CNET's best reporters <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/10270121658/cnet-reporter-resigns-over-cbs-interference-dish-ces-award.shtml">quit</a> in protest, and Dish has turned the whole thing into a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130121/16123721746/dish-turns-cbs-actions-against-it-touts-its-revoked-best-show-status-with-damning-footnote.shtml">marketing opportunity</a>, now any news article about any company that CBS is in a legal fight with has become suspect.
<br /><br />
Note this recent article about <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57565762-93/updated-aereo-app-adds-improved-live-tv-streaming-to-roku/" target="_blank">the updated Aereo app</a>.  While it kicks off by saying that Aereo "just became a much more potent alternative to traditional cable TV" stuck right smack in the middle of the article is a big "disclosure":
<blockquote><i>
<b>Disclosure:</b> CBS, the parent corporation of CNET, is currently in active litigation with Aereo as to the legality of its service. As a result of that conflict of interest, CNET cannot review that service going forward.
</i></blockquote>
In other words, "HEY EVERY BODY, YOU CAN'T TRUST US TO REPORT FAIRLY ON THIS BECAUSE OUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS INTERFERE WITH EDITORIAL!"  The whole thing is a joke.  As Rob Pegoraro correctly noted, CNET's claims that "news" reporting won't be impacted because these bans just apply to "reviews" is simply <a href="http://www.project-disco.org/competition/011513-cbs-cnet-and-how-to-kill-tech-journalism-through-big-media-denial/" target="_blank">wrong, wrong, wrong</a>.
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<p> To say that there&#8217;s &#8220;actual news&#8221; and then reviews devoid of news value shows a basic misunderstanding of how journalism works.</p>
<p>Hard-news stories (<a href="http://searchengineland.com/regulating-the-new-york-times-46521" target="_blank">like search-engine results!</a>) are never entirely objective; people made value judgments in assigning them, choosing sources to quote, and giving those pieces their spot on the page or in the paper. Reviews are never entirely subjective and ought to cite objective defects such as slow performance, poor battery life, privacy risks or missing features.</p>
<p>And in the evolving and sometimes fumbling tech industry, assessing the hardware, software and services it serves up is an especially important part of the work of journalism. We need to suffer through these products ourselves&#8211;unless you&#8217;d prefer that we waited to see you find their problems, then reported the controversy.</p>
<p>Readers, in turn, don&#8217;t view news and reviews as distinct entities. If they start seeing one part of a site&#8217;s work subject to a corporate overlord&#8217;s remote control, they will read everything there skeptically. If they stick around at all.</p>
</i></blockquote>
Indeed.  All that disclaimer does is remind people that CNET's coverage of any such topic is not to be trusted at all.
<br /><br />
<b>Update</b>: And... things are apparently going downhill.  According to reports and internal notes, reporters at CNET <a href="http://jimromenesko.com/2013/01/25/at-cnet-morale-is-plummeting-and-people-are-pissed-off/" target="_blank">are pissed off and morale is falling</a>.  There was a meeting where some believed CBS was going to go back on its position, but the company did not.  Reporters have been pushing back, but to no avail.  The Romenesko link here includes an email from CNET reporter Declan McCullagh ticking off example after example of publications associated with other companies suing Aereo giving perfectly normal reviews of the product:
<blockquote><i>
<p>The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Katie Boehret (who reviews products along with Walt Mossberg, as I&#8217;m sure you know) <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303612804577533070691481182.html">reviewed Aereo</a> three months after the litigation began. Boehret concluded: &#8220;It has a thoughtful, clean user interface that works well on the iPad, where I tested it most.. If you&#8217;re a fan of TV and want a better way to watch it on the go, Aereo is a pleasure.&#8221;  The WSJ is owned by News Corp., which is in active litigation with Aereo.</p>
<p>ABCNews.com published a review of Aereo this month. It said: &#8220;I&#8217;ve been trying out Aereo since September to record and watch all sorts of programs on Aereo &#8212; both highbrow shows such as &#8216;Downton Abbey&#8217; and guilty-pleasure ones such as &#8216;Revenge&#8230;&#8217; It makes cutting cable service tempting.&#8221; ABC News is owned by Walt Disney, which is in active litigation with Aereo.</p>
<p>The Chicago Tribune published a syndicated review of streaming services including Aereo, which said &#8220;the most exciting development might be a scrappy start-up called Aereo that lets you watch TV on any Web-connected device with a screen via a network of miniaturized antennas.&#8221; The newspaper is owned by the Tribune Company, which is in active litigation with Aereo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that CBS has the right to set the editorial policies that CNET journalists must abide by. And it&#8217;s also true that this policy is prominently disclosed to our readers. But I&#8217;m not aware of other media companies that have enacted a similar policy.</p>
</i></blockquote>
This has the makings of quite the business school and journalism school case study...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130125/08230821788/cnet-you-cant-trust-our-reviews-you-can-trust-our-news-honestly.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130125/08230821788/cnet-you-cant-trust-our-reviews-you-can-trust-our-news-honestly.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130125/08230821788/cnet-you-cant-trust-our-reviews-you-can-trust-our-news-honestly.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:33:44 PST</pubDate>
<title>CNET Finally Reports On Its Own Fight With CBS Over Dish CES Award</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/06042421687/cnet-finally-reports-its-own-fight-with-cbs-over-dish-ces-award.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Realizing that the longer it did nothing, the worse it looked, CNET itself has finally <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30677_3-57563877-244/the-2013-best-of-ces-awards-cnets-story/" target="_blank">reported on the events</a> that transpired last week when corporate boss CBS stepped into the middle of their editorial process and sought to deny CNET the ability to choose the product they thought was the best of CES, the Dish DVR with Hopper and Sling.
<blockquote><i>
After the vote, we communicated the winners, as we always do, through normal channels. CNET immediately got down to the business of preparing for a massive stage show the following morning and preparing a press release.
<br /><br />
Later that evening, we were alerted to the legal conflict for CBS. All night and through to morning, my managers up and down CNET and I fought for two things: To honor the original vote and -- when it became clear that CBS Corporate did not accept that answer -- to issue a transparent statement regarding the original vote.
<br /><br />
Ultimately, we were told that we must use the official statement and that we must follow corporate policy to defer all press requests to corporate communications. 
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Of course, this is only coming out well after tons of other sources had reported on this -- and upstart competitor the Verge had already <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/14/3877262/cbs-censors-cnet-over-dish-hopper-award-the-full-story" target="_blank">broken the story</a> about how CBS didn't just tell CNET not to vote on the Dish device, but made them rescind the award that had already been chosen.
<br /><br />
The CNET post, by reviews Editor in Chief Lindsey Turrentine, suggests that most of the staff had no idea that CBS was in litigation with Dish and they were just doing what they were supposed to do.  She also pushes back against the idea that she should resign:
<blockquote><i>
We were in an impossible situation as journalists. The conflict of interest was real -- a legal case can impact the bottom line of our company and introduce the possibility of bias -- but the circumstances demanded more transparency and not hurried policy.
<br /><br />
I could have quit right then. Maybe I should have. I decided that the best thing for my team was to get through the day as best we could and to fight the fight from the other side. Every single member of the CNET Reviews team is a dedicated, ethical, passionate technology critic. If I abandoned them now, I would be abandoning the ship. 
</i></blockquote>
The thing is, if she had quit, I would bet that many on her team would not have seen it as being abandoned, but actually as <i>real leadership</i> of someone supporting their editorial independence.
<br /><br />
She then goes on to insist that she'll fight to make sure this doesn't happen again -- but that seems difficult to believe since earlier in the existing story it suggests that she and others gave up the fight when CBS told them what they had to do:
<blockquote><i>
If I had to face this dilemma again, I would not quit. I stand by my team and the years of work they have put into making CNET what it is. But I wish I could have overridden the decision not to reveal that Dish had won the vote in the trailer. For that I apologize to my staff and to CNET readers.
<br /><br />
The one thing I want to clearly communicate to my team and to everyone at CNET and beyond is this: CNET does excellent work. Its family of writers is unbiased, focused, bright, and true. CNET will continue to do excellent good work. Of that I am certain. Going forward, I will do everything within my power to prevent this situation from happening again.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, the decision to quit is one that every individual has to make themselves.  But completely taking it out of the realm of possibility gives CBS the easy power to do this again and again and again.  She's signalling to CBS that it can continue to walk over CNET's editorial independence, and while the editor-in-chief may protest loudly, in the end, she won't leave.  That's only going to add to the cloud over CNET's reviews going forward.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/06042421687/cnet-finally-reports-its-own-fight-with-cbs-over-dish-ces-award.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/06042421687/cnet-finally-reports-its-own-fight-with-cbs-over-dish-ces-award.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/06042421687/cnet-finally-reports-its-own-fight-with-cbs-over-dish-ces-award.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>CBS's Censorship Of CNET May Undermine A Different CBS Lawsuit</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, after the news came out that CBS had censored its subsidiary CNET, barring reporters there from reviewing Dish products (or any product of any company in litigation with CBS) or from awarding them the "best of CES" award that CNET reporters had already voted on, we wrote a post pointing out how this was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml">dumb</a> for a variety of reasons, mainly focused on the harm it did to CNET's credibility.  Indeed, as noted, one of CNET's star reporters, Greg Sandoval, has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/10270121658/cnet-reporter-resigns-over-cbs-interference-dish-ces-award.shtml">already resigned</a>.  However, it turns out that it may have been even <b>more</b> stupid than originally suspected.  In fact, it may undermine another important lawsuit filed by CBS.
<br /><br />
We've written in the past a few times about Alki David's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110504/12543914144/silly-lawsuit-filed-against-cbs-because-subsidiary-cnet-offered-limewire-download.shtml">crusade against CBS</a>, in which he sued the company, pushing a conspiracy theory about how CBS only went after his company FilmOn (the name of which was later changed, for pure publicity reasons, to AereoKiller) because it wanted to be the only one to profit from infringement.  The argument was that because CNET was owned by CBS, and because CNET site Download.com had offered up software like Limewire, combined with CNET reviewers reviewing Limewire, it meant that CBS itself was guilty of infringement.
<br /><br />
This was a silly legal theory, built more out of spite to annoy CBS.  Unfortunately, since it was first brought up, we've seen many people passing it along (especially one particular YouTube video that calls out this "conspiracy theory" as fact, without any basis).  However, knowing how <i>independent</i> CNET was from CBS, it always seemed like a particularly silly accusation, and the first version of the lawsuit <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110706/13114714988/silly-promotional-stunt-lawsuit-against-cbs-profiting-piracy-dropped.shtml">didn't go very far</a>, though a refiled version has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02590921027/musicians-weave-elaborate-cnet-conspiracy-theory-attempt-to-get-bittorrent-banned.shtml">done slightly better</a>.
<br /><br />
However, now that CBS has decided to rush headlong through that wall of editorial independence <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/cbs-dish-is-editorial-independence-411310" target="_blank">it may have totally undermined its own case</a>.  That's because, in responding to the case, CBS, in part, made the argument that a finding against it might chill free speech by encroaching on the editorial independence of CNET.
<br /><br />
Except... in making this latest move, CBS is now making the argument that it has no problem butting in on CNET's editorial independence (or any CBS Interactive property), which may take away a key argument it has against secondary liability for any articles about infringement.  Knowing the way Alki David has acted in the past, I'd be surprised if he didn't rush to use this in the ongoing case.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19332021673/cbss-censorship-cnet-may-undermine-different-cbs-lawsuit.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19332021673/cbss-censorship-cnet-may-undermine-different-cbs-lawsuit.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19332021673/cbss-censorship-cnet-may-undermine-different-cbs-lawsuit.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:44:14 PST</pubDate>
<title>Just How Dumb Is It For CBS To Block CNET From Giving Dish An Award?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As you may or may not recall, last year, pretty much all the TV networks <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120525/04185919074/tv-networks-file-legal-claims-saying-skipping-commercials-is-copyright-infringement.shtml">sued Dish Networks</a> over a new feature it had launched, PrimeTime Any Time (PTAT), with its Autohopper technology on its DVRs.  PTAT is where it would automatically record all the major networks' prime time programming and hold onto it for a bit.  Autohopper would then automatically skip over the commercials.  It's important to recognize that these features, on their own, have been considered legal.  VCRs had auto commercial skip ages ago and DVR technology (time shifting) has been called fair use plenty of times.  Given that, the lawsuits <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02171921026/details-ruling-over-dishs-autohopper-show-fox-lost-nearly-all-important-issues.shtml">aren't going well</a> so far.
<br /><br />
But, in a moment of pure stupidity, some very short-sighted suits at CBS made a really silly decision.  As you may or may not have heard, CES -- the massive consumer electronics show -- has been going on all this week in Las Vegas.  I just got back from there myself.  At the show, Dish announced another merging of some of its products, adding its Slingbox (who they bought years back) to the same basic setup.  Slingbox, of course, is for "place shifting" what the DVR is for "time shifting."  You hook it up to your TV and it lets you access what's playing on your TV via the internet (so, via your computer, phone or tablet).  It's hardly surprising that this is where Dish was heading.
<br /><br />
And... the early reviews and buzz were definitely strong.  For example, CNET wrote a <a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-video-recorders-dvrs/dish-hopper-with-sling/4505-6474_7-35566943.html" target="_blank">glowing review</a> in which executive editor David Carnoy suggested it may be the best DVR out there these days.  The CNET crew liked the thing so much that they <a href="https://twitter.com/CNET/statuses/289090800011313152" target="_blank">nominated it for their "Best of CES" award.
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And... then the suits at CNET parent company CBS noticed.  And suddenly they told CNET that it </a><a href="http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2013-01-10-cbs-to-dish-no-ces-award-for-you/" target="_blank">had to remove the Dish Hopper with Sling from consideration</a> for the Best of CES award <i>and</i> that it was no longer allowed to review any Dish products.  CNET editors appended the following note to their review:
<blockquote><i>
Editors' note: The Dish Hopper with Sling was removed from consideration for the Best of CES 2013 awards due to active litigation involving our parent company CBS Corp. We will no longer be reviewing products manufactured by companies with which we are in litigation with respect to such product.
</i></blockquote>
This is <i>monumentally</i> stupid, for a variety of reasons.  Let's see how many we can come up with.
<ol>
<li> Hello <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect">Streisand Effect</a>.  There were approximately one gazillion articles this week about products coming out of CES, and the place was wall to wall with journalists -- probably half of whom were coming up with their own "best of" lists.  Most people were completely saturated with CES stories and would barely glance at such a story.  Except... now, tons of people are suddenly finding out about this <i>awesome</i> Dish DVR, the Hopper with Slingbox.  In fact, they're hearing that the damn thing is so good that CBS is trying to block any news of it from getting out.  Talking about increasing the awareness...  I have no clue whatsoever what product CNET -- or any other publication -- awarded "best of CES" to.  But I sure as hell am well aware of Dish's new DVR.
</li><li> Goodbye to the wall that separates the suits from the journalists at CBS/CNET.  CBS execs have just confirmed that they don't want their journalists and reviewers to cover things based on the merits, but rather on what it means for their corporate masters.
</li><li> Hello slippery slope.  Is it really that hard to see where this heads next?  Is CNET still allowed to <i>report on the lawsuit</i> if CBS loses?  If they can't talk about the products, what about the legal issues themselves?
</li><li> Goodbye journalists with credibility.  Frankly, CNET has always had some of the strongest tech reporters in the business.  For many years I've considered it one of the top tech news sites out there.  I have tremendous respect for many of the reporters there.  But, now I have to wonder how much the suits are interfering with their ability to report things accurately.
</li><li> Goodbye to principled journalists who want to work for CBS.  If I'm a journalist at CNET right now, I'd be seriously considering quitting in protest.  This move seriously harms the brand and reputation of the site, and this is the kind of thing that journalists should stand up against.  Having the suits interfere with what they can write about is generally seen as a massive offense to journalists.  I would bet this leads to some of the best, most principled CNET reporters jumping ship to elsewhere.
</li><li> Good luck to CNET hiring new journalists.  Who wants to jump into that toxic situation?
</li></ol>
CBS's suits should have kept quiet and not interfered with the news side of the business.  They had to know that this would backfire in a big bad way.  And, if they didn't know that, they deserve to lose their jobs for being pretty clueless about things that matter.
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Of course, they were probably thinking that Dish would likely use the reviews from CNET as evidence in the lawsuit, which very well may be true (and could still happen since the review did go out).  But it's not hard to get around that, since the legal impact of a single review is near zilch.  In the end, they didn't stifle the review, they made it more well known.  They didn't do anything that helps them in their lawsuit.  And they're left with an undoubtedly pissed off set of journalists who may now question how free they are to actually report the news.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130111/00145421637/just-how-dumb-is-it-cbs-to-block-cnet-giving-dish-award.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:30:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Musicians Weave Elaborate CNET Conspiracy Theory In Attempt To Get BitTorrent Banned</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last year, we wrote about a silly and uninformed lawsuit filed by eccentric rich guy Alki David against CBS.  David has an online TV company, FilmOn, which has some similarities to Aereo and other online rebroadcasters.  The networks sued the company, of course, and David has since gone on an odd and vindictive campaign against them.  As someone who tends to think services like his should be both legal and embraced, I'd like to support him, but his legal campaign is just <i>ridiculous</i> and now has the possibility of causing real and serious harm.  His reason for suing CBS was that a few years ago CBS bought CNET, and CNET has (for many, many years) run a site called Download.com.  Download.com is a service that many software providers use to distribute their software.  David claimed that because Download.com (a site owned by CNET which was -- only relatively recently -- purchased by CBS) distributed Limewire -- which was eventually found to be infringing -- that CBS was also guilty of copyright infringement.  That original lawsuit was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110706/13114714988/silly-promotional-stunt-lawsuit-against-cbs-profiting-piracy-dropped.shtml">dumped</a> pretty quickly, after the judge noted that David had failed to show what copyrights were being infringed (a key piece in any copyright claim).
<br /><br />
David regrouped and found a group of musicians to file a similar lawsuit -- led by Sugar Hill Music -- and so far that lawsuit has had slightly more success, though it has serious problems.  The latest filing in the case, embedded below, involves the plaintiffs arguing that the court should issue an injunction blocking CNET/CBS from allowing <i>any BitTorrent client from being downloaded</i>.  Yeah.  The proposed injunction is full of <i>complete crazy talk</i>.
<blockquote><i>
True to form, Defendants have enthusiastically embraced this new engine
of piracy, distributing over 65 million copies of bittorrent applications and, again,
shamelessly promoting their use for purposes of infringement. Defendants'
inducement has sometimes become somewhat more sophisticated and subtle, in that,
for example, Defendants now include a mild, disingenuous disclaimer about piracy
on some of their web-pages and evidently no longer host certain P2P applications on
their servers. Defendants, however, still expressly and explicitly show users how to
use bittorrent programs to find copyrighted files to download. At all times,
Defendants were aware that the bittorent programs they distributed were used
overwhelmingly for infringing copyrighted works &#8211; primarily music, software,
movies and video games. Although some court cases have found the proprietors of
torrent websites liable for secondary copyright infringement,3 no court case has yet
directly involved bittorrent applications and technology itself. Like a leopard that
cannot change its spots and despite this Court&#8217;s clear admonishment that Defendants
cannot simultaneously distribute software applications that they have encouraged to
be used for purposes of infringement,4 Defendants continue to distribute bittorrent
applications under the intentionally lazy and under-reactive guise that they cannot
be held liable for this activity until a court order specifically prohibits the use of
bittorrent technology to infringe Plaintiffs&#8217; works. Although Plaintiffs believe it
probable that courts will soon explicitly find the popular bittorrent applications to be
secondarily liable for copyright infringement just as Napster and LimeWire were, it
is beyond doubt that Defendants&#8217; distribution of these programs and concurrent
intent to induce infringement subjects Defendants to inducement liability,
independent of any further inquiry. <b>Bittorrent is a clear and present danger to
copyrighted works</b>. From evidence readily available in CNET&#8217;s own &#8220;news&#8221;
articles, it is clear that bittorrent applications like uTorrent are growing explosively
to fill the infringement vacuum left by Gnutella applications.
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Yes, despite the fact that BitTorrent itself has been around for many, many years, and the software/protocol has never been found to be infringing in any way, these musicians are now insisting that it's "only a matter of time" and that CNET should be forced to block downloads of any and all BitTorrent products.  There are so many crazy points here.  First, Download.com is just a platform provider, which software providers use to distribute software, not the creator of the software.  Second, BitTorrent is just a protocol and is quite different than the apps that the lawsuit relies on as previous generations, which were often complete ecosystems.  BitTorrent software has always been just about a tool to download or distribute content -- legal or infringing.  And, yes, there are a ton of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120928/23265120546/yes-there-are-many-many-many-many-legal-uses-bittorrent.shtml">legal uses</a> of BitTorrent, even if the plaintiffs here pretend otherwise.
<br /><br />
There are some other howlers as well, including the rise of copyright trolls, filing over 250,000 lawsuits against people for copyright infringement -- which the filing here uses as some sort of weird evidence that BitTorrent must be illegal, apparently completely unable to distinguish between a tool and the actions that some use that tool to accomplish.
<br /><br />
Even more bizarre, the filing uses the fact that CNET had an article <i>highlighting a <b>legal</b> use of BitTorrent</i> (by the band Counting Crows who purposely released  some tracks via BitTorrent) as evidence that CNET encourages people to infringe:
<blockquote><i>
Defendants also use the purported &#8220;news&#8221; arms of their websites to
dress up the marketing of bittorrent applications as legitimate news reporting. For
example, CNET editor Seth Rosenblatt (the same individual who authored the fivestar
review of uTorrent), wrote a May 14, 2012 article published and available on
Defendants website titled &#8220;Download This Mr. Jones,&#8221; ostensibly about how the
recording artist the Counting Crows had partnered with the software publisher of
uTorrent to release their music for free download via torrent.... In a portion of the article quoting the lead singer of the Counting Crows
regarding the 150 million users of uTorrent, Rosenblatt included hyperlinks
accompanied by the word &#8220;download&#8221; to the CNET download pages for uTorrent
and BitTorrent.
</i></blockquote>
The idea that CNET's news operation deserves sarcastic "quotes" around it is ridiculous.  News.com has been one of, if not the, leading tech news publication for at least a decade and a half.  And the idea that this story wasn't actually newsworthy, as implied here, is simply ridiculous.  Lots of publications covered it, not to push people to download BitTorrent, but because it was newsworthy.  But much of the argument relies on news reporters talking about various issues related to BitTorrent, and then arguing that this is all some sort of front to push more people to download BitTorrent.  To put it simply: this is insane.  News.com and Download.com.  I've known people associated with both properties, and the idea that they write articles about BitTorrent to try to drive more downloads is ridiculous.
<br /><br />
But, even ignoring that, then arguing that all BitTorrent-related products should be barred from download isn't just overkill, it's pushing a rather scary and unique legal theory that sites should be barred from distributing software -- made by parties not even represented in the lawsuit -- just because one party doesn't like how some of the users of that software use it.  If there's infringement it's on the part of some potential end users, but rather than going after them, this lawsuit doesn't just go one step back (to the software providers), but an even further level back to the platform that enables software downloads, and claiming that somehow they're all responsible for this.
<br /><br />
It seems pretty clear that this lawsuit is really designed to be a nuisance for CBS, but the legal theories are highly questionable and the requested injunction is a massive overreach.  Hopefully the court recognizes just how much an overreach this request really is.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02590921027/musicians-weave-elaborate-cnet-conspiracy-theory-attempt-to-get-bittorrent-banned.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02590921027/musicians-weave-elaborate-cnet-conspiracy-theory-attempt-to-get-bittorrent-banned.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02590921027/musicians-weave-elaborate-cnet-conspiracy-theory-attempt-to-get-bittorrent-banned.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:14:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>RIAA's New War: Shutting Down The Equivalent Of Internet VCRs</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The entertainment industry just won't quit trying to kill perfectly legal technologies with substantial non-infringing uses.  Back during the big legal fight over Grokster, the RIAA insisted that it had absolutely no interest in stopping technologies people used to record things.  In fact, Consumer Electronics Association CEO Gary Shapiro <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060518/0251200.shtml">reminded them</a> of this promise after the RIAA went after XM Radio's device to record broadcasts.  It appears that the RIAA has no problem continuing to go against its word.  Its latest move is to send a letter to CNET, asking it <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57457982-93/riaa-to-cnet-follow-google-nix-video-to-mp3-conversions/" target="_blank">to remove tools from Download.com that can be used to record videos from YouTube</a>.  Of course, there a tons of legitimate uses for such tools.  Just as you can legally record shows off of TV (thank you Supreme Court), you should be able to record stuff on YouTube (related: shame on Google for <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57456397-501465/google-youtube-blocks-website-that-converts-videos-into-mp3s/" target="_blank">blocking such tools as well</a>).
<br /><br />
Of course, from the parts of the RIAA's request that have been made public by Greg Sandoval at CNET, it sounds like the RIAA isn't directly making a legal threat (which would be tough, given CNET's role as a fourth party service provider for third party tools which might be used to infringe), but rather appealing to its parent company, CBS, arguing that because such tools and their substantial non-infringing uses might also be used to record CBS content (again, just like the VCR), that they should want to put an end to them..  Thankfully, it sounds like CNET has no interest in complying.
<br /><br />
However, given the RIAA's promises during the Grokster case that it had no interest in blocking such technologies, it seems that, once again, the RIAA has been shown as liars who have no compunction about blocking perfectly legal technologies, just because they haven't figured out how to adapt to modern times.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/08220419435/riaas-new-war-shutting-down-equivalent-internet-vcrs.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/08220419435/riaas-new-war-shutting-down-equivalent-internet-vcrs.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120622/08220419435/riaas-new-war-shutting-down-equivalent-internet-vcrs.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 May 2011 16:06:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Silly Lawsuit Filed Against CBS Because Subsidiary CNET Offered Limewire For Download</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Late last year, a guy named Alki David, who's known for his publicity stunts, put out a silly video attacking CBS, who was suing a company he ran.  The video is long, and not very entertaining, other than demonstrating David's ego.  The theory posited by David is so bizarre that we didn't post about the video when it came out.  Basically, CBS had sued his company, FilmOn, which let people pay to access his retransmission of TV channels online.  It's pretty easy to see why CBS and others believe that a service like FilmOn is infringing.  However, David's theory was so out there that it was laughable: he claims CBS is suing him because <b>CBS profits from piracy and doesn't want others getting into the game and competing</b>.  No, really.  You can see the video here:
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The logical trainwreck comes from the fact that CBS bought CNET a few years ago, and among CNET's properties is Download.com, which is probably the single most popular place for companies to offer up their software products for download.  It's been that way for years.  One of the many, many, many software products available to download from Download.com was Limewire, which (as you know) was recently found guilty of facilitating copyright infringement.  David's argument is that CBS makes a ton of money from this setup.  It doesn't.  CBS may make a little bit of money from this, but it's not even a rounding error on CBS's bottom line.  This is so far removed from CBS's business it's hard to do more than laugh at the accusations.
<br /><br />
However, David has now taken it to another level, and together with some hip hop and R&#038;B artists, is <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/cnet-limewire/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired27b %28Blog - 27B Stroke 6 %28Threat Level%29%29" target="_blank">suing CBS for copyright infringement</a> over this same issue.  It seems pretty clear that this is a nuisance suit from David, who is upset about the lawsuits against his company -- which seem to have a lot stronger basis in law.  I can't see how CBS has liability here.  We're not even talking about standard third party liability here.  CBS is a fourth or fifth party here, at best.  The actual infringement comes from end users.  Limewire is the tool they use.  CBS's CNET's Download.com is the tool that Limewire uses.  To blame CBS for that is a huge stretch.  Also, unless I'm missing it, nowhere in the lawsuit filing embedded below do I see what specific copyrights of the plaintiffs CBS is accused of infringing upon...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110504/12543914144/silly-lawsuit-filed-against-cbs-because-subsidiary-cnet-offered-limewire-download.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110504/12543914144/silly-lawsuit-filed-against-cbs-because-subsidiary-cnet-offered-limewire-download.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110504/12543914144/silly-lawsuit-filed-against-cbs-because-subsidiary-cnet-offered-limewire-download.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Digg And Others Sued For Infringing Infamous Computer Solitaire Patent</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The Patent Troll Tracker is back from holiday vacation and he's got quite a post listing out <a href="http://trolltracker.blogspot.com/2008/01/4-interesting-new-cases-from-last-2.html">a bunch of interesting (i.e., depressing) lawsuits involving questionable patents and even more questionable patent holders</a>.  In one case, the Troll Tracker even manages to track down a bizarre set of circumstances making it look like an <i>associate</i> at a well known IP law firm spent millions of dollars scooping up a bunch of patents for himself.
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However, perhaps the most interesting is the third case discussed by the Troll Tracker.  It involves the somewhat infamous <a href="http://w2.eff.org/patent/wanted/patent.php?p=sheldon">patents of Sheldon Goldberg</a>, which <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20040203/118235.shtml">got plenty of attention back in 2004</a> when he started claiming that computer solitaire was covered by his patents.  The two key patents are for <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=ZzEFAAAAEBAJ&#038;dq=6,183,366">a network gaming system</a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=ZcwQAAAAEBAJ&#038;dq=6,712,702">a method for playing games on a network</a>.
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It appears that after years of threats about these patents, Goldberg has now actually started filing lawsuits -- and some of the targets are a bit surprising.  The one that stood out was Digg, as you don't often see companies like Digg involved in patent infringement suits (and, as far as I can tell, the news that Digg was being sued for patent infringement hasn't been mentioned anywhere else).  Others sued over those same patents include some of the "usual targets" such as Google, AOL and Yahoo.  However, it also includes a variety of media properties both big and small -- including the NY Times, The Washington Post, CNET, Tribune Interactive and (another slightly odd one) eBaum's World.  While the patents themselves seem quite questionable, it's even harder to understand how these sites could possibly be violating those patents.  Either way, perhaps the fact that Digg is now on the receiving end of a silly patent infringement lawsuit, it'll get more of the Digg crowd even more interested in the massive problems with the patent system. <b>Update</b>: Since a few people asked, the story is <a href="http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Digg_And_Others_Sued_By_Patent_Holder">on Digg itself</a> now.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080104/025253.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080104/025253.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080104/025253.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Deja Vu, Webshots Gets Sold.. Again and Again and Again...</title>
<dc:creator>Dennis Yang</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In its Thursday earnings call, CNET announced that it <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8SGJ8RG0.htm">sold photo-sharing site Webshots to American Greetings for $45 million in cash</a>.  This is yet another chapter in the crazy history of Webshots.  Launched in 1996, the founders sold their company to Excite for $84 million in 1999.  After the whole dotcom deflation, the founders bought their own company back for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20020104/1545216.shtml">$2.4 million</a> in 2002.  Then, two years later in 2004, it sold Webshots to CNET for a cool <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20040714/177223.shtml">$70 million</a>.  So, this week's acquisition marks the fourth time that this property has changed hands.  
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When CNET purchased Webshots in 2004, it was quietly one of the most trafficked photo-sharing sites on the web.  However, momentum and buzz was all around media-darling Flickr and uber-popular MySpace tools like Photobucket, which, according to <a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=webshots.com&#038;site1=flickr.com&#038;site2=photobucket.com&#038;y=r&#038;z=3&#038;h=300&#038;w=610&#038;range=3y&#038;size=Medium&#038;url=webshots.com">Alexa</a>, both gained on and then passed Webshots in traffic.  Webshots tried to turn the tide by jumping on the video bandwagon, adding social networking features, and launching a photobucket-like blind hosting service, but to not much avail.  True, Comscore reports that Webshots is <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/24/social-site-rankings-september-2007/">growing</a> again this year while Alexa reports no such growth, but at least the two measures agree on the fact that Webshots growth and audience both pale in comparison with its competitors.
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The bigger question remains though -- what is the new owner of Webshots, American Greetings, going to do with the site?  American Greetings has made a few web acquisitions in the past, and now owns eGreetings and former #1 traffic king, Blue Mountain Greetings.  However, both of those sites are greetings sites, which made perfect sense for them.  If this isn't the right place for Webshots, will we yet see another sale for Webshots next year?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071026/082412.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071026/082412.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071026/082412.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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