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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Jun 2012 03:03:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Canada Approves New Music Tariffs; Weddings Cost Double If You Dance</title>
<dc:creator>Leigh Beadon</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>The Copyright Board of Canada, which reviews copyright tariffs for various collection societies (like ASCAP and BMI in America, which collect performance licensing fees from venues) has <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2012/06/01/music-tariff-recorded-copyright-board.html" target="_blank">just approved a new set of fees to cover recorded music at a bunch of different live events</a>. Karaoke bars, conventions, parades, weddings and several other classes of event&mdash;which already pay fees to SOCAN, which represents songwriters&mdash;will now begin paying additional tariffs to collection society Re:Sound, which represents recording artists and labels.</p>

<p>We've talked a lot about the problems with the whole idea of the collection society structure in the past, especially the fact that most societies are constantly pushing for higher fees and trying to extract money for ridiculous things, even though they have a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/18055718229/how-ascap-takes-money-successful-indie-artists-gives-it-to-giant-rock-stars.shtml">poor track record</a> of actually redistributing the money they collect to the artists they supposedly represent. But of course, the people behind the tariff talk it up as a boon for small musicians:</p>

<blockquote><em>"We are trying to establish tariffs for the remuneration of everybody involved in the music &#8212; everybody that has some rights to receive some remuneration," said Gilles McDougall of the Copyright Association of Canada, adding that the tarriff will likely result in a few million dollars a year for performers.
<br /><br />
Re:Sound spokesman Matthew Fortier said the money collected will make a big difference to small operations.
<br /><br />
"Sometimes you think of the larger artists or record labels, but most often it goes to small, struggling artists and record labels &#8212; we have thousands signed up with us," he said.</em></blockquote>

<p>But as Howard Knopf <a href="http://excesscopyright.blogspot.ca/2012/06/big-fat-canadian-wedding-tax-socan.html">points out</a>, small artists are the last ones to get anything out of a scheme like this. Megastars and their labels can make money&mdash;but even that pales in comparison to the <em>real</em> beneficiaries of the tariff:</p>

<blockquote><em>Sadly, very little of this money through gets to the artists that need it the most.  This is because the copyright collective system tracks and rewards commercial success. Celine Dion, U2,  Lady Gaga and their record and publishing companies do very well by the this system but emerging creators see very little of this money. The ones who really and consistently benefit the most are those who run the collectives, those who are consultants to the collectives, and the lawyers who punctually pursue new and higher Copyright Board tariffs using money raised from the previous tariffs and paid for ultimately by the Canadian public. Many if not most Copyright Board hearings generate millions of dollars in legal fees in order to generate average annual payments to creators that are typically much less than a junior lawyer&#8217;s hourly rate.</em></blockquote>

<p>As with many such licensing schemes, the specifics of the fees seem almost completely arbitrary. Karaoke bars pay a rate based on nights-per-week, parades pay a different rate per-float, and weddings pay a third rate that for some insane reason <strong>gets doubled if the wedding involves dancing</strong>.</p>

<p>Some people will look at the fees themselves, which in any singular instance only generally add up to a few hundred dollars at most, and ask what the big deal is. But that's ignoring the big picture: Canada loves copyright tariffs, and each one serves to shift massive amounts of wealth around, often with little justification and no way of ensuring that the money is being properly distributed. And we just keep piling new tariffs on top of old ones, with no clear idea of how effective they are&mdash;except at funnelling money to the collection societies:</p>

<blockquote><em>It&#8217;s true that most people do not tend to get married very often. And many weddings cost $25,000 or more. So, some may not be too concerned about the macro or even microeconomic aspects this particular tariff item. It won&#8217;t likely harm Canada&#8217;s economy overall or even the institution of marriage. 
<br /><br />
But these little tariffs add up. The little tariffs such as $0.29 for a blank CD or $5.16 per year for each K-12 student, or $253.45 for a wedding soon add up to about $500 million a year in Canada. One is tempted to say that "A half billion here, a half billion there, pretty soon, you're talking real money."  Copyright Board tariffs siphon huge sums out of the educational system, the broadcasting and telecom industries, businesses of all kinds that use blank media for ordinary data storage and transfer purposes, etc.</em></blockquote>

<p>Now we can add this one to the bloated list. And you can guarantee it won't be long before Re:Sound is back before the Copyright Board, pushing to raise the fees and expand the tariff to new classes of events and venues. Copyright tariffs rarely decrease&mdash;even when they <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120423/10484918612/canadian-universities-have-one-week-to-stop-disastrous-copyright-licensing-deal.shtml">absolutely should</a>.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/08395219198/canada-approves-new-music-tariffs-weddings-cost-double-if-you-dance.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/08395219198/canada-approves-new-music-tariffs-weddings-cost-double-if-you-dance.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/08395219198/canada-approves-new-music-tariffs-weddings-cost-double-if-you-dance.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>footloose?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:30:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>What If There Was A Music Collection Society That Actually Understood That Free Isn't Always Bad?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In the US we have three main music collection societies for performance rights (ASCAP, BMI and SESAC), and then SoundExchange for satellite/online streaming.  However, many other countries just have a single collection society, with somewhat monopolistic tendencies.  There have been efforts (mostly failed) to create more competition in Europe, mainly by encouraging the organizations to leave their local country and work across Europe.  There have been precious few new entrants, however.  At least one group is trying to change that -- and they're doing so by embracing the internet and the concepts of free culture.  <a href="http://c-3-s.eu/" target="_blank">C3S, or the Cultural Commons Collecting Society</a> is trying to enter the market in Europe in a much more culture-friendly manner:
<blockquote><i>
C3S is a collaborative effort to found a new and ground-breaking European collecting society for musical creators to register their works outside of traditional schemes, released under free licences for commercial exploitation. More than just for works published under Creative Commons Licences, C3S is open for other free licences as well.
</i></blockquote>
The new operation wants to encourage free distribution for non-commercial use, and a much more reasonable (and appealing) deal for both musicians and consumers.  Just the fact that the organization has to make it clear that members are encouraged to make use of free licensing is an amazing step forward.  Compare that to organizations like GEMA that have tried <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090408/2336284448.shtml">refusing to recognize</a> Creative Commons licenses, and operations like ASCAP, who insist that Creative Commons is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">threat</a> to musicians, rather than a useful tool.  Who knows if C3S will go anywhere, but it's nice to see that it's at least being tried.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/02510618838/what-if-there-was-music-collection-society-that-actually-understood-that-free-isnt-always-bad.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/02510618838/what-if-there-was-music-collection-society-that-actually-understood-that-free-isnt-always-bad.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/02510618838/what-if-there-was-music-collection-society-that-actually-understood-that-free-isnt-always-bad.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:25:47 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How ASCAP Takes Money From Successful Indie Artists And Gives It To Giant Rock Stars</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back in 2009, we wrote about the crazy situation in which ASCAP, the giant US collection society will funnel money from indie artists and pay it to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090909/0318406140.shtml">big rock stars</a> -- which seemed incredibly unfair.  It's just one particular part of the royalties that ASCAP pays, but it's still clearly a case of taking from independent artists and giving money that they <i>should</i> be paid under the system and giving it to the most successful artists.  The short version of the story is basically that, to make its own life easier, ASCAP just pays those performance royalties to the top 200 grossing tours in the US, and every other touring musician is more or less screwed -- unless you can convince ASCAP that you play "serious music."
<br /><br />
Very successful independent musician Zoe Keating, who has had multiple <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111019/03214016410/universal-music-keeps-trying-to-claim-zoe-keatings-royalty-checks-despite-having-nothing-to-do-with-her.shtml">run-ins</a> with the unfair practices of collections societies giving money she's owed to major labels, just came across this same issue and <a href="http://zoekeating.tumblr.com/post/19796519069/another-post-where-i-attempt-to-understand-the" target="_blank">wrote a blog post about her experience</a>:
<blockquote><i>
After a concert, there is this thing called &#8220;doing the settlement&#8221;. This is where the artist or their representative meets with the promoter, goes over the financial outcome of the night in relation to their contract&#8230;and gets paid.
<br /><br />
Sometimes the contract is for a percentage of the gross revenues, but more often for me, I get a guarantee and maybe a percentage of &#8220;net&#8221; if it was a positive number. The line item deductions that go into the calculation of net are things like sound &#038; lights, staff, venue rental, advertising, insurance, etc. There tend to be many line items in the calculation of &#8220;net&#8221; and I can&#8217;t help but notice that one of them is ASCAP. 
<br /><br />
For example, at one concert I played last month the gross ticket sales for the night were $9336. Of the many expenses deducted that night, one of the items was $86 to ASCAP.
<br /><br />
What is this? This is the nightly portion of a license fee that the hall pays to ASCAP for the permission to perform music by ASCAP artists in their venue. My compositions are registered with ASCAP, so I should get this money eventually, right?
<br /><br />
Wrong.
<br /><br />
I remembered that when I&#8217;ve played in the UK I listed all the songs I played on something called a PRS from and gave it to the venue. Six months or so later, I got a check for the percentage of the night&#8217;s revenues due to me according to the PRS formula for that venue.
<br /><br />
Thinking that maybe instead of placing the burden on the venue, ASCAP puts it on the artist, I called ASCAP to see how I should go about claiming these concert royalties.
<br /><br />
The customer service representative on the phone said there was nothing for me to claim. He informed me that ASCAP pays out performing royalties only to the 200 top-grossing concert tours, as determined by Pollstar. They also pay royalties for &#8220;Live symphonic and recital concerts&#8221;, whatever they are (he said I don&#8217;t qualify for those).
<br /><br />
In other words....
<br /><br />
<b>Every day, thousands of venues are required to pay a percentage of their gross ticket sales to ASCAP who then gives that money to... let&#8217;s look here on Pollstar and find the highest-grossing concerts for 2011....U2, Taylor Swift, Kenny Chesney, Lady Gaga, Bon Jovi, etc.</b>
</i></blockquote>
Yup.  The thing is, I actually would have thought that Keating, whose music is usually classified as "classical" would have qualified for that "serious music" exception -- because back in 2009, we were told that applies to classical music.  But now it appears they're limiting that to "live symphonic and recital concerts" and telling her she doesn't qualify for that either.
<br /><br />
But, really, this seems borderline criminal.  There is simply no way to describe what's happening here other than ASCAP taking money that is owed to independent artists and giving it to the most successful artists in the world instead.
<br /><br />
Keating then discusses how, in researching this, she came across a separate program which appears to be something of a lottery for independent artists for herself:
<blockquote><i>
Looking online, I found an ASCAP program that I didn&#8217;t know about. Perhaps in an attempt to compensate for this incredible distribution of wealth to the wealthy, ASCAP has something called the &#8220;ASCAP Plus Cash Awards&#8221;. What are these amazing &#8220;awards&#8221;?
<blockquote>
&#8220;For over 50 years, these special awards have recognized writer members each year for substantial performance activity in media and venues that are not included in performance surveys, or whose works have unique prestige value. The program has also been an inspiration to members just starting out to persevere in advancing their music careers. More than 4,200 songwriter and composer members of ASCAP received Plus Awards in their January 2012 disbursement&#8230;&#8221;
</blockquote>
You have to submit an application to ASCAP to qualify for consideration (which I just did). The gist of it, as far as I can tell, is that if you are the winner of this black-box calculation ASCAP will make a special award to you of a portion of your own money. Awesome! I&#8217;ll let you know if I &#8220;win&#8221;.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, we've written about this "program" too -- such as noticing in 2010 how ASCAP was bragging about bringing in more money than ever... at the very same time it announced it was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101007/11300711326/ascap-tells-artists-it-s-cutting-their-payments-as-it-brags-to-the-press-how-much-more-money-it-s-collecting.shtml">massively cutting payments</a> to those who qualify for this mysterious ASCAP Plus program.
<br /><br />
I know that lots of musicians swear that ASCAP isn't like the RIAA, and that it really is about helping artists, but time and time again, we see that it really just functions to perpetuate the system that only rewards the biggest artists, and causes significant problems for the smaller artists.  From examples like the stories above, to ASAP's aggressive efforts to shut down any and all open mic nights unless coffee shop owners pay up, ASCAP has successfully been screwing over independent artists for quite some time.  It's a real shame and something that organization should work on.  As Keating notes, it is possible to do this in a much more fair manner, such as the way PRS handled the exact same situation in the UK (though, obviously, PRS has its own issues).  
<br /><br />
Perhaps, rather than focusing on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attacking</a> Creative Commons, EFF and Public Knowledge -- three organizations that have done amazing things for independent artists, ASCAP should focus on actually paying those artists what they've earned.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/18055718229/how-ascap-takes-money-successful-indie-artists-gives-it-to-giant-rock-stars.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/18055718229/how-ascap-takes-money-successful-indie-artists-gives-it-to-giant-rock-stars.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/18055718229/how-ascap-takes-money-successful-indie-artists-gives-it-to-giant-rock-stars.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:16:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Like Clockwork: Copyright Holders Mistakenly Freak Out About Presidential Candidates Using Their Music</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This seems to happen every four years like clockwork during Presidential elections.  Some musician gets upset about a politician he or she disagrees with, making use of his or her music during campaign rallies.  This time around the candidate is Newt Gingrich, and the upset musician is songwriter and member of the band <i>Survivor</i>, Frank Sullivan, who <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/31/newt-gingrich-eye-of-the-tiger" target="_blank">co-wrote the song "Eye of the Tiger"</a> which Gingrich has apparently been using during presidential campaigns:
<blockquote><i>
The complaint states that the violation it alleges is intentional since Gingrich is "sophisticated and knowledgeable" concerning copyright laws. 
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That strikes me as interesting, because I would have to assume that the campaign has paid for standard ASCAP performance license (either that or the locations they use almost certainly have such a license).  And if that's true, then Sullivan has no case.  If the venue has a license, they can play whatever they want.  Full stop.   "Eye of the Tiger" is registered to ASCAP, so that's all that's needed.  The campaign doesn't need permission of the copyright holder.  The Chicago Sun-Times <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/10332797-418/former-survivor-member-sues-newt-gingrich-for-using-eye-of-tiger.html" target="_blank">goes into more detail</a>, where Sullivan insists this isn't political, he just doesn't like the song being used without him getting paid.  Perhaps he should check his ASCAP statement.  If he's not getting paid, he might want to take it up with them.
<br /><br />
That same article also notes that Sullivan co-owns the copyright along with his song writing partner/bandmate, Jim Peterik, who seems to both (sorta, kinda) like Gingrich and not like legal actions:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;My wife is a big fan,&#8221; Peterik said. &#8220;I&#8217;m becoming a fan of Newt Gingrich. He has a mind of his own. He&#8217;s not a talking head. Originally, I didn&#8217;t like him, but look at the competition. He&#8217;s looking better and better.&#8221;
<br /><br />
Peterik is not a party to the suit that Sullivan filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago. They share the copyright, but tend to stay out of each other&#8217;s way when it comes to cracking down on infringers.
<br /><br />
&#8221;I hate suits,&#8221; Peterik said. &#8220;I hate being in court. I avoid that meticulously. When I [heard about the lawsuit on the radio Monday} I said I&#8217;m not surprised, but I&#8217;m surprised.&#8221;
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I say this every time something like this comes up, but even if politicians <i>can</i> make use of such songs without getting permission from the artists, thanks to ASCAP/BMI/SESAC performance licenses, it still surprises me that the campaigns don't seek out musicians who support them in the first place to get their "okay" just to avoid embarrassing situations like this.  Either way, it seems almost certain that this lawsuit is going nowhere fast.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120131/00295417596/like-clockwork-copyright-holders-mistakenly-freak-out-about-presidential-candidates-using-their-music.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120131/00295417596/like-clockwork-copyright-holders-mistakenly-freak-out-about-presidential-candidates-using-their-music.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120131/00295417596/like-clockwork-copyright-holders-mistakenly-freak-out-about-presidential-candidates-using-their-music.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>again?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:55:18 PDT</pubDate>
<title>US Supreme Court Lets Stand Ruling That Says Music Downloads Are Not Public Performances</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Ah, ASCAP.  The music collection group that keeps getting more and more desperate, seems to have finally and completely lost its quixotic attempt to claim that a music <i>download</i> represented a "public performance," which required a separate license, beyond the mechanical reproduction license.  The group had been in a legal fight with Yahoo and Rhapsody over whether or not those companies had to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080501/020611996.shtml">pay extra to songwriters</a> (whom ASCAP represents) in addition to the money they were already paying to license songs from the record labels for downloads.  The district court sided with ASCAP and presented a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080512/0252111088.shtml">bizarre formula</a> involving a percentage of <i>all revenue</i> (such that Yahoo would have to pay some of its search revenue to ASCAP for no clear reason).  Thankfully, an appeals court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100928/11271611198/appeals-court-tells-ascap-a-download-is-not-a-performance.shtml">overturned</a> the ruling, noting that a download is not a public performance, and that the bizarre calculation rate didn't make much sense.  ASCAP (of course) appealed to the Supreme Court, which has <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/03/music-internet-downloads-idUSN1E77O0MU20111003" target="_blank">declined to hear the case</a>, meaning that the appeals court ruling stands.  This isn't a definitive rejection of "download = public performance," as technically, it's just the law in the Second Circuit.  In theory, some other Circuit could rule otherwise, and create a circuit split for the Supremes to look at.  But, that's probably unlikely, and it's most likely that this ruling effectively makes it clear across the country that a download is not a public performance.  As it should be, because it's not.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/12570316188/us-supreme-court-lets-stand-ruling-that-says-music-downloads-are-not-public-performances.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/12570316188/us-supreme-court-lets-stand-ruling-that-says-music-downloads-are-not-public-performances.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111003/12570316188/us-supreme-court-lets-stand-ruling-that-says-music-downloads-are-not-public-performances.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>thank-goodness-for-little-things</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 May 2011 06:49:27 PDT</pubDate>
<title>EMI Dumps ASCAP For Digital Licensing</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, this is interesting.  When Guy Hands had bought EMI years back, there was hope that, as an outsider, he might come in and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071009/191057.shtml">shake things up</a> in a good way.  That didn't happen, and after a massive flop, Hands lost EMI to Citigroup earlier this year.  And, yet, now it appears that EMI is finally making some interesting moves.  First up: it's <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/05/emi-pulls-digital-rights-from-ascap-in-radical-plan-to-streamline-digital-licensing.html" target="_blank">pulling back its digital rights from ASCAP</a> and is going to license them directly.  That's a huge hit to ASCAP (who will undoubtedly downplay the significance, though it really is huge).  This also should ease the licensing of EMI's catalog, since it's all going through a single company, rather than having to involve multiple companies.  I wouldn't be surprised to see others go in this direction as well.  Of course, some musicians might not like it, as ASCAP tends to be a bit clearer in its royalty statements than many of the labels, but this is a big potential issue for ASCAP.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110503/17044814135/emi-dumps-ascap-digital-licensing.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110503/17044814135/emi-dumps-ascap-digital-licensing.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110503/17044814135/emi-dumps-ascap-digital-licensing.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:44:20 PST</pubDate>
<title>Who's Who Of Clueless Music Industry Lobbyists Send Angry Letter To Wrong Publisher</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Sometimes it just feels like the legacy music industry folks spend their time trying to make it easy for us to call them on their bizarre positions.  The latest is a pretty laughable <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i39b5c49ccd74a21f9f4fb80d8c7ba149" target="_blank">angry letter from a who's who of the organizations, who represent the past of the music industry</a>.  Signers to the letter include (among others) the heads of the RIAA, ASCAP, SoundExchange, BMI, SESAC, NMPA, AFTRA, Harry Fox and the Songwriter's Guild.  The target of their scorn?  Well, officially, it's the CEO of Ziff Davis, publisher of PC Mag, for publishing two articles in the wake of the shutdown of Limewire telling people about "alternatives" to Limewire.  The problem?  Well, beyond being totally pointless, PC Mag only published one of the articles (the one the letter seems to find less objectionable).  The other article  that they complained about <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pc-mag-admonished-by-music-biz-for-encouraging-piracy-101123/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">was published by a totally different publication</a>.  Accuracy is not big with the old school music industry, it seems.
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Yes, PC Mag published an article highlighting <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371590,00.asp" target="_blank">alternatives to LimeWire</a>, just like a <i>ton</i> of other websites did.  Anyone who was looking for an alternative to LimeWire didn't need PCMag to find them.  In fact, many reports noted a noticeable increase of downloads of those alternatives pretty quickly after LimeWire went down.  The lobbyists get pretty worked up about all this, though:
<blockquote><i>
Let's be honest. The vast majority of LimeWire's users were interested in one thing and one thing only: downloading our music for free with the full knowledge that what they were doing was illegal. The harm done to the creative community when people are encouraged to steal our music is immeasurable. Disclaimer or no, when you offer a list of alternative P2P sites to LimeWire -- and include more of the serial offenders -- PC Magazine is slyly encouraging people to steal more music and place at risk the tens of thousands of music industry jobs -- including singers, songwriters, musicians and the technical professionals who put it all together. Even worse is offering a direct link to a "resurrected" Limewire as follows: "I went ahead and downloaded LimeWire Pirate Edition for *ahem* research purposes, and can report that it appears to be working very smoothly. In the event that you, yourself, would like to do some research, you can download the client here (direct link)."
</i></blockquote>
Yes, they're quite upset about that article about the LimeWire Pirate Edition (which we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101109/10571011777/with-the-limewire-mole-wac-d-up-pops-plenty-of-other-options-including-a-new-limewire.shtml">wrote about as well</a>).  Only problem?  PCMag didn't publish it.  Nor did any other Ziff Davis publications.  It was actually <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/210092/limewire_is_quietly_resurrected_its_baaack.html" target="_blank">in PC World</a>, which is published by IDG -- a totally different company than Ziff Davis.  Now, it's not hard to confuse PCMag and PC World -- lots of people do.  But when sending an angry letter condemning a publisher, you would think that maybe <i>one</i> of these super powerful industry lobbyist/mouthpieces would think to actually check the sources before mouthing off.
<br /><br />
Apparently not.
<br /><br />
Given this mistake, it should come as little surprise that the rest of the letter is also full of factually ridiculous claims, such as "job loss" numbers due to "piracy" -- numbers that have been widely debunked so many times that it's almost pathological that these groups still cling to them like some talisman.  Also, it's kind of funny that they imply the publishing business would feel differently if it had also been decimated by free competition (they call it "piracy," but they mean free competition).  Ziff Davis is, in fact, a shell of its former self due to exactly that situation.  However, the company has been trying hard to resurrect itself by actually competing in the marketplace -- something the signers of this letter could learn from.
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Of course, I'm sort of curious what these groups actually think they're accomplishing with a letter like this.  If it's to pressure magazines like PC Mag (or, ahem, PC World) not to publish such stories, that won't stop the info from getting out there.  It will only increase the irrelevance of those publications -- especially if they feel brow-beaten by a bunch of dinosaurs, who refuse to adapt no matter how many times it's been shown to them how they can embrace the future successfully.  This really feels like the sort of letter that these guys signed onto so they can show their constituency that they're "doing something" by stomping their feet, rather than actually doing something helpful like helping those they represent to adapt and embrace new opportunities.  The full amusing letter is included after the jump...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101124/03285412006/whos-who-clueless-music-industry-lobbyists-send-angry-letter-to-wrong-publisher.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101124/03285412006/whos-who-clueless-music-industry-lobbyists-send-angry-letter-to-wrong-publisher.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101124/03285412006/whos-who-clueless-music-industry-lobbyists-send-angry-letter-to-wrong-publisher.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AP Wants To Become The ASCAP Of News</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember the Associated Press's bizarre and unworkable idea to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/1858235640.shtml">DRM the news</a>.  Well, reader <a href="http://imagisterium.tumblr.com">crcb</a> alerts us to the news that the AP is now filling in more details, about how it effectively <a href="http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/oct/19/digital-overhaul-hatched/" target="_blank">wants to become the ASCAP of news</a>.  Yeah, you read that right.  Talk about bad ideas.  I'm sure being like ASCAP is appealing from the AP's side, but it makes no sense at all from the publisher side -- especially given the details where the AP gets to keep a 20% cut of any revenue collected this way.  As you read through the details, it's as if the folks behind it at the AP don't quite understand the very basic economics of content and the internet:
<blockquote><i>
Curley indicated that the clearinghouse's biggest moneymaking opportunity is likely to be the licensing of copyright-protected content to mobile phones and an array of computer tablets such as Apple Inc.'s iPad and emerging competitors.
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Huh?  You license content to website or apps, not to platforms... This seems to have absolute disaster written all over it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:51:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>ASCAP Tells Artists It's Cutting Their Payments As It Brags To The Press How Much More Money It's Collecting</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ ASCAP feels like the gift that keeps on giving to those of us covering it.  If you're an artist... not so much.  We've covered many examples of how ASCAP's aggressive efforts to shut down venues from hosting up-and-coming singers is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090109/1823043352.shtml">harming local musicians</a>.  And, we've also pointed out how they use a system to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090909/0318406140.shtml">overpay large acts</a> at the expense of small acts.  Now it's getting even worse.  Just as ASCAP is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attacking</a> groups like Creative Commons, EFF and Public Knowledge -- who help artists find more ways to <i>take control</i> over their own careers, it's also <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/10/ascap-cuts-payments-just-months-after-issuing-a-glowing-forecast.html" target="_blank">cutting back on payments to many of its artists</a>:
<blockquote><i>
 ASCAP cut payments to some members of it's ASCAPlus program by 20-30%.  "Unfortunately, because of the fiscal climate, less money was available this year for the award program," ASCAP said in a letter to those receiving checks.
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Ah, right.  The tough economic climate.  We do know about that.  But... wait. Here's an ASCAP press release from just five months ago, claiming it was <a href="http://www.ascap.com/press/2010/0503_Financial_Results.aspx" target="_blank">bringing in more money than ever</a>:
<blockquote><i>
"Music is performed more often, in more places, in more ways by more businesses than ever before. That expanded music use, combined with dramatic ASCAP Membership growth, market share increases and effective strategic management have led to stunning revenue and distribution growth for 2009."
</i></blockquote>
Okay, so ASCAP is collecting more money and distributing more money, but it's cutting the amount given to ASCAPlus members by a huge amount.  What's ASCAPlus?  Ah, right, the smaller artists who can't make a big stink about this:
<blockquote><i>
"writer members of any genre whose performances are primarily in venues not surveyed; and/or writer members whose catalogs have prestige value for which they would not otherwise be compensated."
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In other words, ASCAP appears to be taking more money away from small artists, and giving it to their biggest artists.  No wonder ASCAP's Paul Williams <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100727/23070310388.shtml">refuses to debate Larry Lessig</a>, claiming he'd rather focus on "fair compensation to music creators."  Unless you're a smaller, less well known artist.  Then ASCAP wants your share to be a little less fair.  Actually, quite a bit less fair.  Like 20 to 30%.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101007/11300711326/ascap-tells-artists-it-s-cutting-their-payments-as-it-brags-to-the-press-how-much-more-money-it-s-collecting.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101007/11300711326/ascap-tells-artists-it-s-cutting-their-payments-as-it-brags-to-the-press-how-much-more-money-it-s-collecting.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101007/11300711326/ascap-tells-artists-it-s-cutting-their-payments-as-it-brags-to-the-press-how-much-more-money-it-s-collecting.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:04:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Appeals Court Tells ASCAP: A Download Is Not A Performance</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few years back, we covered the legal fight pitting ASCAP against Yahoo and RealNetworks, where the two internet companies were told to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080501/020611996.shtml">pay up</a> based on a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080512/0252111088.shtml">ridiculously arbitrary fee formula</a>, including a totally made up multiplier called the "music-use-adjustment-fraction."  The really scary part was that it calculated the revenue based on <i>all</i> of Yahoo's revenue.  So, yes, even though Yahoo makes most of its revenue in ways that have nothing to do with music, its total revenue is used as part of the calculation.  The one good thing that came out of the legal fight was the court making it clear to ASCAP that a download is not a performance, which requires a separate fee.  As you may recall, ASCAP has been trying to claim <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091015/1502486549.shtml">just about anything</a> involving music is a "public performance," in a weak attempt to get more cash.
<br /><br />
Both sides appealed.  Yahoo and RealNetworks appealed the crazy fee formula, and ASCAP appealed the claim that a download was not a public performance.  The Second Circuit appeals court has now ruled and <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68R47B20100928?type=technologyNews" target="_blank">gone against ASCAP on both issues</a>.  It reaffirmed that a download is not a public performance (and thus, performance rights fees are not applicable) and rejected the bizarre calculation method used, as not "adequately supported" as being reasonable.
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A few highlights:
<blockquote><i>
The fact that the statute defines performance in the audio-visual context as "show[ing]" the work or making it "audible" reinforces the conclusion that "to perform" a musical work entails contemporaneous perceptibility. ASCAP has provided no reason, and we can surmise none, why the statute would require a contemporaneously perceptible event in the context of an audio-visual work, but not in the context of a musical work.
<br /><br />
The downloads at issue in this appeal are not musical performances that are contemporaneously perceived by the listener. They are simply transfers of electronic files containing digital copies from an on-line server to a local hard drive. The downloaded songs are not performed in any perceptible manner during the transfers; the user must take some further action to play the songs after they are downloaded. Because the electronic download itself involves no recitation, rendering, or playing of the musical work encoded in the digital transmission, we hold that such a download is not a performance of that work....
</i></blockquote>
The court also scolds ASCAP for blatantly misreading other opinions on what constitutes a public performance and points out that ASCAP appears to "misread the definition of 'publicly,'" noting that ASCAP's definition of a public performance seems to "render superfluous" the term "a performance" in the Copyright Act.  Ouch.
<br /><br />
As for the royalty fees, the court is pretty clear that it doesn't buy the formula being used:
<blockquote><i>
First, the district court did not adequately support the reasonableness of its method for measuring the value of the Internet Companies' music use. Second, the district court did not adequately support the reasonableness of the 2.5% royalty rate applied to the value of the Internet Companies' music use.
</i></blockquote>
In other words, you don't just get to make up numbers out of nowhere.
<br /><br />
That said, the court does say that it isn't necessarily against using such a "music-use-adjustment-fraction," it just needs the number to actually be supported.  This is unfortunate, as it leads to improperly using non-music revenue as part of the calculation for how much should be paid for the music license.  However, the court tries to deal with this by saying that the reasonable support needed would justify what the multiplier factor would be.  Its main concern with the lower court's ruling was that it didn't take this into account and used a measure that made little sense (time spent listening to streams) which had little bearing on ad revenue:
<blockquote><i>
The district court's MUAF accounts for the value of Yahoo!'s music use by using the amount of time that music is streamed. Streaming time, however, neither drives nor correlates with Yahoo!'s advertising revenue. The record evidence makes plain that Yahoo!'s advertising revenue model more accurately correlates with the number of times a particular page is accessed by users than to the duration of streaming time.
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:04:20 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Recording Industry Using Net Neutrality Debate To Try To Link Child Porn With Copyright Infringement Again</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've already seen how music industry execs and lobbyists <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100427/1437179198.shtml">cynically use "child porn"</a> to their advantage (even, sickeningly, declaring "child porn is great") by lumping it in with copyright infringement in trying to force filters or other third party policing of the internet on politicians and companies.  What's amazing is that they don't seem to have any shame at all in doing so.  The latest example can be found in the "open letter" put together by a bunch of music industry trade groups (RIAA, A2IM, AFM, AFTRA, ASCAP, BMI, NMPA, SESAC, SoundExchange, the Recording Academy, the California Songwriters Association, the Music Managers Forum, and the Nashville Songwriters Association International) to Verizon and Google asking them to make sure their <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100809/12505010560.shtml">proposed "framework"</a> for net neutrality <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/115059-music-industry-questions-google-on-piracy" target="_blank">still doesn't cover forcing ISPs to be copyright cops</a>.  It's no surprise why they sent this letter, but the inclusion of "child porn" with copyright infringement is really ridiculous:
<blockquote><i>
The music community we represent believes it is vital that any Internet policy initiative permit and encourage ISPs and other intermediaries to take measures to deter unlawful activity such as copyright infringement <b>and child pornography</b>.
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The industry seems to work overtime to try to link these two concepts together, despite the vast differences between them.  It's really an incredibly cynical, exploitative and disgusting move by the recording industry, and people should really start calling them on it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/12295010691.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/12295010691.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/12295010691.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:59:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>ASCAP Continues Propaganda Campaign With Laughably Bad Video [Updated]</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While ASCAP is apparently <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100727/23070310388.shtml">too busy</a> to debate Larry Lessig, they aren't too busy to produce silly and ridiculous propaganda.  ASCAP member <a href="http://www.damiansol.com">Damian Sol</a> notes that he recently received an email from ASCAP asking him to "spread the word" about ASCAP's new <a href="http://www.ascap.com/playback/2010/07/ACTION/PeterHimmelman.aspx" target="_blank">propaganda video</a> that compares getting songwriters paid for music to getting chickens and cows paid for their eggs and milk.  Seriously.  I'd embed it here, but the technologically savvy folks at ASCAP are apparently too clueless to figure out how to include an embed on a video they claim they want people to "share." <b>Update</b>: Aha.  While they don't make it clear on the page, the video has also been uploaded to YouTube, where it is embeddable:
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<br><br>
Anyway, since ASCAP believes that every public performance needs to be paid for, and the idea of "free promotion" is a myth, I do have to ask: is ASCAP paying  Peter Himmelman, the guy who made the video, each time it's played?
<br><br>
<b>Update 2</b>: Also, as many in the comments have noted, they've also produced a second video, which is just ridiculously misleading.  You can watch it here:
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Two major problems with the video.  The first is that ASCAP continues to <i>falsely</i> portray "open source" believers as being somehow against compensation.  It includes a guy in a t-shirt that says "open source dude," which morphs into "fair payment man" in the video.
<br><br>
The bigger problem is that it sets up a <i>total</i> strawman to knocks down, in saying that people don't think music is "as valuable" as a variety of tangible goods because you can hold/eat/watch those goods "and because people made them."  The conclusion of the video?  Music is valuable because "people made it."  Uh, ok.  Except that the debate isn't over the value of music.  It's about the <i>price</i> of music, and it's intellectually dishonest to pretend that value and price are the same thing.  And while some people might actually find a TV set or a pair of shoes more valuable than music, it's not because one is tangible and the other is not.  It's because they simply value one more than the other.  What people are actually arguing -- a point that ASCAP won't address because it can't -- is that setting up a bureaucracy that gets a government granted ability to demand money from venues promoting musicians music can actually do <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml">serious harm</a> to musicians by making it that much more difficult to find venues that can promote their music.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100730/17075510429.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100730/17075510429.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100730/17075510429.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>ASCAP Boss Refuses To Debate Lessig; Claims That It's An Attempt To 'Silence' ASCAP</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We were among those who were amazed at ASCAP's misguided and factually incorrect <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attack</a> on EFF, Public Knowledge and Creative Commons.  ASCAP's Paul Williams falsely made the claim that those three groups were against copyright and against compensating content creators.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  All three groups <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml">responded politely</a> to the bizarre and factually incorrect attack, and many ASCAP members who support these groups and use Creative Commons licenses <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml">expressed their displeasure</a> with ASCAP for such a blatantly misleading letter.  Larry Lessig responded with a blog post, again pointing out the blatant errors in ASCAP's attack, noting that these groups actually look to help content creators by providing them tools to better exercise their rights.  In that blog post, Lessig also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100713/15350410197.shtml">challenged Williams to a debate</a> so they could iron out their differences and ASCAP could (hopefully) retract their false attacks on these groups, and focus on helping artists again.
<br /><br />
<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=hephaestus42">Hephaestus</a> points out that Williams and ASCAP have <a href="http://www.ascap.com/playback/2010/07/action/Copyright.aspx" target="_blank">refused to debate Lessig</a>, with an open letter that is so bizarre that I keep rereading it to make sure it's not a joke.   But, apparently, it's no joke, and it gets more and more bizarre the further you read, down to the point where Williams suggests Lessig's request for a debate is really an attempt to "silence" him.  But, let's start at the beginning:
<blockquote><i>
Anti-copyright crusaders are currently engaged in a publicity campaign to discredit ASCAP's efforts to defend the copyrights of our professional songwriter and composer members.
</i></blockquote>
Again, the groups that Williams mentioned (though, amusingly, he does not rename them here) are not anti-copyright.  And the statement is wrong as well.  The only thing people are trying to "discredit," are the blatantly false claims that EFF, Public Knowledge and Creative Commons are trying to undermine copyright or that "their mission is to spread the word that our music should be free."  None of those groups makes any such claim.
<blockquote><i>
The copyleft movement has encouraged a culture of disrespect for copyright by defending corporate and individual infringers; undermining every effort to provide more effective protection, no matter how limited or reasonable; promoting a reduction in copyright protection; supporting the dismantling of our rights through the courts; and questioning the basic premise that the tidal wave of infringements and unlicensed uses online hurts creators.
</i></blockquote>
Well, that's one way of looking at things.  Even if it's wrong.  First of all, Creative Commons has done no such thing in "defending" infringers.  That's just false.  EFF and Public Knowledge don't defend infringement, either.  They defend consumer rights, and advocate balance in how copyright law treats consumers.  Copyright law in the US was always supposed to be about providing more benefit to society as a whole, not about protectionism of artists.  That EFF and Public Knowledge get attacked for simply reminding people of that fact seems like a travesty.  As for the final point: "questioning the basic premise that the tidal wave of infringements and unlicensed uses online hurts creators."  How does asking whether or not a claim made by certain organizations is <i>true</i> or <i>false</i> undermine copyright?
<br /><br />
Has ASCAP really sunk so low that simply looking to see if something is factual is somehow "undermining" copyright?  Really?
<br /><br />
Then, in responding directly to Lessig's debate challenge, Williams spends a few paragraphs talking about his own success as a songwriter, and how he now spends all of his time fighting for the right of songwriters to make a living.  And, because of that, he doesn't have time to debate Lessig, because he doesn't see how it will "help" in this neverending fight.
<br /><br />
Of course, this is ridiculous.  Everyone wants content creators to be fairly compensated and to earn a good living.  The EFF has even put together a proposal (which I don't agree with) to create an ASCAP-like setup for digital music.  Creative Commons gives content creators more options in easily licensing their music, to make it easier for them to get heard and to use within a business model.  As for Public Knowledge, just a few months ago I was at an event they put on, which celebrated various content creators and their success stories in figuring out smart ways to earn a living.  And, of course, many others who are regularly derided as being a part of the "copyleft" are successful content creators ourselves, and regularly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091119/1634117011.shtml">highlight smart ways for content creators to earn a living</a>.  Suggesting that any of us are against helping content creators earn a living is both false and extremely disingenuous.
<br /><br />
And then it gets bizarre.  Williams simply repeats the false claims that were clearly debunked by tons of people in responding to his original letter:
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I am well aware of those "copyleft" mouthpieces who take a highly critical view of ASCAP's efforts to protect our members' rights. That will not change ASCAP's commitment to doing so. ASCAP exists for one purpose -- fair payment to music creators for the use of their music by businesses and others who seek to attract viewers and customers. ASCAP has long welcomed and licensed new technological means of performing its members works, seeking only reasonable fees for those performances. Our members have every right to give their music away for free if they choose, but they should not be forced to do so.
</i></blockquote>
People aren't upset that ASCAP is trying to protect members' rights.  They're upset that (1) ASCAP seems to stretch the legal boundaries to do so -- such as claiming that ringtones or the 30-second "previews" on iTunes are "public performances" that require a separate licensing fee and (2) that you falsely claimed any of these groups were somehow seeking to "force" musicians to give away their music for free.  No one has ever suggested that at all.  That's what got everyone upset.  For Wiliams' response to simply repeat that blatantly false claim is strange.
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And then there's this:
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What I find most fascinating is that those who purport to support a climate of free culture work so hard to silence opposing points of view. They will not silence me.
</i></blockquote>
Huh?!?  No one has tried, at all, to silence Williams.  In fact, people seem to have done the exact opposite.  They've asked you to come out and talk about stuff in a public debate.  That's the opposite of trying to silence you.  No one has any interest in silencing Williams at all.  We just want him to stop making totally false claims and attacking groups who have worked hard to support artists as well by falsely suggesting they seek to undermine artists.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100727/23070310388.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100727/23070310388.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100727/23070310388.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Larry Lessig Challenges ASCAP Boss To A Debate Over Whether Or Not Creative Commons Undermines Copyright</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've already written a couple of times about ASCAP's bizarre anti-artist decision, as part of its fundraising campaign, to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml">falsely</a> imply that Creative Commons, EFF and Public Knowledge are seeking to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml">undermine copyright</a>.  So far, about all this has done is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml">piss off</a> a bunch of ASCAP members who actually like these groups (especially those who use Creative Commons).  Larry Lessig has now written a response, where he points out that Creative Commons relies on copyright and doesn't seek to force anyone to use it at all.  It just offers artists more choices in how they license their music.  More interesting, however, is that Lessig then <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-lessig/ascaps-attack-on-creative_b_641965.html" target="_blank">challenges ASCAP's president, Paul Williams, to a debate on the topic</a>:
<blockquote><i>
So here's my challenge, ASCAP President Paul Williams: Let's address our differences the way decent souls do. In a debate. I'm a big fan of yours, and If you'll grant me the permission, I'd even be willing to sing one of your songs (or not) if you'll accept my challenge of a debate. We could ask the New York Public Library to host the event. I am willing to do whatever I can to accommodate your schedule. 
<br /><br />
Let's meet and address these perceived differences with honesty and good faith. No doubt we have disagreements (for instance, I love rainy days, and Mondays rarely get me down). But on the issues that your organization and mine care about, there should be no difference worthy of an attack.
</i></blockquote>
So, will ASCAP and Williams -- who has been on an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090125/2201473533.shtml">anti-Lessig rampage</a> for a while now -- step up and actually debate?  And if Williams agrees to such a debate, will he finally stop making false claims about these groups?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100713/15350410197.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100713/15350410197.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100713/15350410197.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Do We Really Want An ASCAP For News?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've spent a long time detailing the massive problems that come up when you build up an unnecessary collection society bureaucracy for something like music.  Operations like ASCAP lead to massive inefficiencies in the market, greater protectionism and a never-ending quest for more control over perfectly reasonable free uses.  And, worst of all, they tend to distort markets in such ways that it <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml">harms up-and-coming creators</a> by pricing the venues they rely on to establish themselves right out of the market.  So, I have to admit that I'm somewhat horrified to hear that some are now seriously <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-ascap-example-how-news-organizations-could-liberate-content-skip-negotiations-and-still-get-paid/" target="_blank">proposing an ASCAP-like offering for the non-problem of online news</a>.
<br /><br />
There are so many problems with this suggestion it's difficult to know where to start.  The biggest of all, however, is that the "problem" this is seeking to solve hasn't been shown to have been a problem at all.  Newspapers and the AP keep claiming that there's an "aggregator problem," but we went looking for it and <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090730/0423325715.shtml">we can't find it</a>.  The problem is that the AP and others change the definition of who's a problem depending on what they're talking about.  Sometimes its sites like Google.  But Google isn't really a problem because Google shows headlines and barely a snippet.  That's clearly fair use and drives traffic (hell, the entire SEO industry depends on that).  So, it's not Google that's the problem.  At the other end of the spectrum you have scraper spam sites, but those are fly-by-night, get <i>no</i> traffic and aren't "taking" any real ad revenue away from the original content creators at all.  Also, they're certainly not going to pay into any ASCAP-like scheme.  Who's left?  In the middle you have a few smaller players, like Newser, who basically rewrite some stories, but they're tiny.
<br /><br />
So what problem is this bureaucratic mess trying to actually solve?  I can't figure it out, but putting together a giant bureaucracy will require a ton of overhead, and all that money is pure waste from an economic standpoint.  So, before we start talking about an ASCAP for news, can someone please define what the actual problem is?  Because it's certainly not this general "aggregator" menace that we keep hearing about.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:57:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>EFF, Public Knowledge And Creative Commons All Respond (Politely) To ASCAP's Misguided Attack</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Following last week's bizarre decision by ASCAP to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attack</a> Creative Commons, Public Knowledge and EFF as part of its fundraising campaign, all three organizations have now responded, and done so with a bit of wonderment at why they were painted in such a misleading light.
<ul>
<li>Creative Commons <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89521/creative-commons-responds-to-ascap/" target="_blank">responded in an interview with Zeropaid</a>, noting how misguided and flat-out wrong it was for ASCAP to suggest that Creative Commons somehow undermines artists' rights, when it's always done exactly the opposite:
<blockquote><i>
"It's very sad that ASCAP is falsely claiming that Creative Commons works to undermine copyright" Steuer told ZeroPaid. He explained, "Creative Commons licenses are copyright licenses -- plain and simple, without copyright, these tools don't even work. CC licenses are legal tools that creators can use to offer certain usage rights to the public, while reserving other rights. Artists and record labels that want to make their music available to the public for certain uses, like noncommercial sharing or remixing, should consider using CC licenses. Artists and labels that want to reserve all of their copyright rights should absolutely not use CC licenses."
<br /><br />
It does make sense because Creative Commons is voluntary. The creator can choose whether or not to use Creative Commons or not.
<br /><br />
"Many tens of thousands of musicians, including acts like Nine Inch Nails, the Beastie Boys, David Byrne, Radiohead, and Snoop Dogg, have used Creative Commons licenses to share with the public. These musicians aren't looking to stop making money from their music. In fact," Steuer added, "many of the artists who use CC licenses are also members of collecting societies, including ASCAP. Incidentally, that's how we first heard about this email campaign -- many musicians that support Creative Commons received the email and forwarded it to us. Some of them even included a donation to Creative Commons."
</i></blockquote>
</li>
<br /><br />
<li>The EFF <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/06/29/eff-in-response-to-ascap-says-they-want-to-find-ways-of-getting-artists-paid/" target="_blank">responded in an interview with CreateDigitalMusic.com</a>, where it noted, amusingly, that the EFF's long-standing <a href="http://www.eff.org/wp/better-way-forward-voluntary-collective-licensing-music-file-sharing" target="_blank">proposal</a> on how to "fix" copyright law, actually is to set up an ASCAP-like system for digital music (this is something that I've long disagree with EFF about, by the way).  So it seems pretty silly to claim that EFF is somehow trying to undermine ASCAP.  It just takes issue when ASCAP takes a ridiculous stance like claiming that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090620/1836345299.shtml">ringtones</a> require a separate "public performance" license -- a position that is clearly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091015/1502486549.shtml">at odds</a> with the law.
<blockquote><i>
"They imply in that letter that the EFF don't want artists to get paid for their work," says Rebecca Jeschke, EFF spokesperson. "For years, we've had a proposal for Voluntary Collective Licensing," she says, a scheme by which users of file sharing services could contribute to funds for artists. She says the EFF has been working on the issue since 2003. "We're interested in making sure that there's a balance, that copyright respects the rights of the creators but also innovators and speakers, and that [the doctrine of] fair use rights [a provision of US Copyright Law] are respected."
</i></blockquote></li>
<br /><br />
<li>Finally, Public Knowledge <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/what-ascap-doesnt-understand" target="_blank">responded on its own website</a>, in a response that is similar to the EFF's, pointing out that it clearly supports getting artists' paid, has no interest in undermining such rights, and has advocated models similar to ASCAP's:
<blockquote><i>
Of course, anybody who has spent more than 5 minutes on our website or talking to our staff knows that these things are not true - Public Knowledge advocates for balanced copyright and an open Internet that empowers creators and the public.&nbsp; What we oppose are overreaching policies proposed by large corporate copyright holders that punish lawful users of technology and copyrighted works.&nbsp; We have taken artist-centric positions on a number of critical copyright issues which have put us at odds with some of our copyright reform colleagues.&nbsp; For example, PK has <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1014" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">supported</a> a level-playing field in the payment of performance royalties and <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/pdf/gbsohn-testimony-20060621.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">called for</a> (pdf) copyright holders to sue large scale peer-to-peer infringers directly, as opposed to holding innovators liable for the infringement of others.&nbsp; We have also <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1245" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">advocated </a>for changes to the law that would make it easier for online music services to license content from music publishers, leading to greater legal use of music and greater compensation for artists.&nbsp; Finally, and oddly enough, we have <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1627" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">emphasized</a> the central role that performance rights organizations like ASCAP could play in a digital world and have praised them for their ability to keep accurate records of who owns what copyright.&nbsp; So frankly, we're more puzzled by this attack than anything.
</i></blockquote>
</li>
</ul>
So, basically none of these organizations do anything like what ASCAP claimed.  It's too bad that ASCAP still seems to be standing by its backwards-looking position.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03261210014.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Music Publishers Keep Lashing Out At Consumer Groups; Those Who Respect Individuals' Rights</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It appears that music songwriters and publishers don't yet recognize that going on the attack against groups representing public interests and consumers' rights is a strategy destined to backfire.  They just keep doing it, and it's really making them look both petty and petulant, with no desire to actually understand these issues.  Instead, they just think the world owes them their business model, and anyone looking out for larger interests is, quite literally, "the enemy."  We've already covered ASCAP's (<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090125/2201473533.shtml">long planned</a>) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attack</a> on Creative Commons, EFF and Public Knowledge.  These attacks are so distasteful that even many ASCAP supporters are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml">upset</a> about them.
<br /><br />
Now, it appears that the National Association of Music Publishers is getting in on the misplaced anger.  In a recent speech, its CEO, David Israelite <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004099016" target="_blank">lashed out at these groups</a>, and lumped CEA and CCIA into the bunch.  CEA and CCIA, of course, have both been pretty strong supporters of making sure that copyright law is not harming innovation or the economy.  These are important issues if you believe that a stronger economy is important for everyone -- including musicians and songwriters -- but it appears that Israelite and the NAMP take a very narrow, zero-sum view of the world, which is that, if the gov't isn't handing over greater and greater protectionist policies, something's wrong -- and anyone who supports looking at the actual evidence should be shouted down as an enemy.  It's not a position that can be supported by logic, so it's pure emotion:
<blockquote><i>
But there is a growing enemy that does not have respect for copyright at all. And this is a very different enemy.
<br /><br />
When the U.S. Government Accountability Office released a study in April on the economic impact of intellectual property piracy, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Public Knowledge, the Consumer Electronics Assn. and the Computer and Communications Industry Assn. took out a full-page ad in newspapers around Washington, D.C. "Content industry piracy claims are bogus," the ad read. "For years, claims of huge losses from digital piracy have been used to justify harsh restrictions on innovators and consumers . . . They have harmed our competitiveness, hampered legitimate businesses and impeded innovation."
<br /><br />
Who are these four groups and why would they take out full-page ads to suggest the ridiculous--that theft of intellectual property isn't really bad? The answer is, this is the new face of our enemy.
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Yup.  They call these groups "enemies" twice.  Very subtle there.  What's really glaring, however, is that Israelite doesn't even respond to the actual study at all.  I mean, you would think that the <i>actual evidence</i> presented by one of the few parts of the government that is widely respected for its objectivity in doing research, would be worth commenting on.  Nope.  He skips right over the actual evidence and blames these four groups for actually highlighting what the evidence says.  And then he claims that they're "suggesting the ridiculous"?  In other words, Israelite has taken such a faith-based position, that when actual evidence is presented that goes against his faith, he doesn't just shoot the messenger, he shoots anyone who repeats the message.  Convincing.
<blockquote><i>
These four groups have an extremist, radical anti-copyright agenda. They all have an economic interest in the theft of our music or paying little to nothing for it. [And] they are intellectually dishonest in how they approach these fights.
</i></blockquote>
Radical extremists, huh?  Isn't that what the Canadian politicians behind the new copyright law, James Moore, just <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100622/1658319925.shtml">called critics</a> of his bill?  Sounds like the talking points on anyone actually interested in consumer rights is making the rounds, and "radical extremists" is the key phrase in trying to tar and feather anyone who suggests consumers have rights.
<blockquote><i>
I have put together a top 10 list of the positions taken by these groups that I will define as their extremist, radical anti-copyright agenda.
</i></blockquote>
Oh, do tell.  This is going to be a great list, I'm sure.  Please make sure that it's in Letterman-style countdown format too...
<blockquote><i>
No. 10: They support changing the law to reduce damages for copyright infringement.
</i></blockquote>
That's radical extremism?  Wow.  Of course, when the damages for copyright infringement are so far out of line with the actual harm of copyright infringement -- such that someone sharing a single album's worth of music for non-commercial purposes can be fined <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090618/1533065283.shtml">$2 million</a> -- it seems like it's actually kind of a pretty good question why the damages are so high.  Even judges in these cases appear to find the damages results <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/1010047873.shtml">laughable</a>.  When the damages are entirely out of line with actual harm, it seems perfectly reasonable to suggest they be brought more in line.  How is that radical or extremist?
<blockquote><i>
No. 9: They support the elimination of statutory damages for secondary copyright infringement.
</i></blockquote>
Again, how is it either radical or extremist to suggest that liability for breaking the law should fall on those who actually break the law, rather than some 3rd party with deeper pockets?  Personally, it seems a lot more radical to blame one party just because it's easier and they have more money, rather than those who actually break the law. 
<blockquote><i>
No. 8: They favor rolling back copyright extension; in some cases, radically.
</i></blockquote>
Again, I'm at a loss as to how this is either radical or extremist.  Actual evidence (again, the stuff Israelite would apparently prefer to avoid at all costs) has shown the net loss to society and culture from copyright extension.  Our original copyright law lasted for, at most, 28 years.  The entire <i>point</i> of copyright law was supposed to enrich the public domain, but we haven't had anything enter the public domain in years, and it's unlikely we'll see much enter the public domain in our lifetime.  <i>That</i> seems radical.
<blockquote><i>
No. 7: They favor the elimination of the songwriter and publisher rights for server, cache and buffer copies.
</i></blockquote>
Again, this is not at all radical.  Nor is it about "eliminating" rights.  It's about accurately applying the law so that ridiculous results don't emerge -- such as cases where cache or buffer copies of songs require additional royalties and licenses, when they're clearly in transit.  It was about not outlawing technology based on how long the wire is (i.e., the Cablevision case, where Israelite apparently supported the blatantly ridiculous position that a DVR hosted by Cablevision is illegal, because it hosts cached versions in transit, while the DVR in your home is legal).
<blockquote><i>
No. 6: They oppose efforts to obtain the identities of individuals engaged in massive copyright infringement.
</i></blockquote>
Not quite.  They oppose efforts that expose individuals' privacy without fair and due process.  Who knew it was "radical extremism" to insist on privacy rights and due process.  These groups have no problem with exposing the identities of those who break the law when there is due process involved.  It's hard to believe that Israelite is really suggesting that music publishers don't believe in due process or privacy rights.
<blockquote><i>
No. 5: They support extreme versions of orphan works legislation.
</i></blockquote>
Misleading again.  Orphan works legislation is a red herring -- only brought about because of the ridiculous overreach in copyright law that wiped out the public domain.  The sort of overreach that Israelite's group supported.  So now when these groups try to fix one of the massive problems that this overreach created, it's dubbed "radical extremism."  Yikes.
<blockquote><i>
No. 4: They have filed legal briefs supporting anti-copyright positions of Grokster, Napster, LimeWire, Cablevision, Google, YouTube and Verizon.
</i></blockquote>
Misleading in the extreme.  None of those lawsuits involved "anti-copyright" positions, no matter how much the entertainment industry likes to spin these cases that way.  The first three -- Grokster, Napster and LimeWire -- were never "anti-copyright" positions, they were questions about third party liability.  Again these are just questions about who it's fair to blame: the user or the toolmaker.  The entertainment industry wants to blame the toolmakers.  Common sense says you blame the actual user.  Claiming that a debate over properly applying liability is an "anti-copyright" position is deliberately dishonest.  The Google/YouTube case is the same story.  It's a case about liability.  Not anti-copyright.  The Cablevision case we described above.  It was about whether or not the industry could veto technology based on the length of a wire.  That's not anti-copyright at all.  
<br /><br />
Finally, it's pretty shocking that he includes Verizon in this list.  I'm guessing he's referring to the RIAA's fight with Verizon way back when.  To suggest that Verizon is "anti-copyright" is ridiculous.  That was, yet again, a case about due process -- which I guess Israelite is admitting he doesn't believe in.  This Verizon case involved the question of whether or not the RIAA could just demand Verizon hand over details of Verizon customers without a court-reviewed subpoena.  The issue covered basic due process, which had nothing, whatsoever, to do with copyright.
<br /><br />
It's really stunning how blatantly Israelite is basically admitting that due process is meaningless if you interfere with "his" business model.
<blockquote><i>
No. 3: They oppose graduated-response protection for copyright owners.
</i></blockquote>
Yes, it's "radical extremism" to support the view held <i>overwhelmingly</i> by consumers that kicking people off the internet is punishment that does not come remotely close to fitting the "crime" of sharing, distributing and promoting music you love for free. 
<br /><br />
And, again, of course, most of the arguments against graduated-response efforts are due the clearly unconstitutional lack of due process involved: cutting people off the internet based on accusations rather than convictions is pretty radical and extremist.  Actually fighting for due process?  Not so much.
<blockquote><i>
No. 2: They oppose treaties that support copyright enforcement like the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.
</i></blockquote>
Heh.  This one is amusing, because he conveniently ignores the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100428/1416549224.shtml">serious problems with ACTA</a>.  They're not "opposed" to these treaties just for the hell of it, or because of some "radical extremist anti-copyright" position.  They're opposed to it because it has all sorts of ridiculous language that will do serious harm.  But, I guess for Israelite to realize that he'd have to look at the evidence, and he's less a fan of that than he is of supporting due process.
<blockquote><i>
No. 1: They actually argue that illegal peer-to-peer file-sharing traffic helps the economy and doesn't hurt songwriters.
</i></blockquote>
I'm actually not aware of any of those four groups actually saying that, but I <i>will</i> say it.  What's hurting songwriters is their inability to adapt to a changing market.  The songwriters who <i>are</i> adapting seem to be doing just fine.  We write about them all the time, but Israelite won't read this blog, I'm sure, because it's filled with "evidence."  Yes, <i>if you don't adapt</i> to market changes, it can "hurt" your business.  But that's what most of us here in capitalist America think is a good thing.  Otherwise we'd all be riding around in horse buggies.  So, sure, automobiles "hurt" the horse buggy market.  And the printing press "hurt" the monks-writing-books business.  But what happened?  Much greater opportunities came about as a result, and the smart horse buggy makers who jumped ship to join automobile makers did just fine.  We're seeing successful songwriters adapting all the time.  It's just that they're doing it without kowtowing to Israelite and NAMP.
<br /><br />
I don't see how any of that represents "radical extremism."  I see plenty of attempts to falsely demonize those who believe in due process, privacy rights, consumer rights, innovation, correctly applying liability and (*gasp*) actual factual evidence.  But, that's not radical extremism.  It's called reality.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03002010013.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03002010013.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/03002010013.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>ASCAP Members Pissed Off At ASCAP's Attack On Creative Commons</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, we posted about how ASCAP was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">attacking EFF, Public Knowledge and (most bizarre of all) Creative Commons</a>, as part of its fundraising drive.  As we pointed out, this showed ASCAP's true colors.  For an organization that presents itself as trying to supports artists' rights, it's downright ridiculous to attack a group like Creative Commons that only looks to give musicians <i>more choices</i> in what they do with their own rights.  In following some of the reaction to the article, I saw a tweet from <a href="http://hipgnosis.us/" target="_blank">musician</a> Eric Young, where he publicly declared plans to <a href="http://twitter.com/HipGnosis23/statuses/17076144061" target="_blank">quit ASCAP</a> over this fundraising appeal:
<blockquote><i>
#FUCKASCAP  #iQuit ...  this is the 1st public anncmnt of my resignation from ASCAP. this is bullshit.
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That left me wondering how other ASCAP members were feeling about this, and thankfully, <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/26/1349247/Creative-Commons-Responds-To-ASCAP-Letter?from=twitter" target="_blank">Slashdot</a> points us to a blog post on the <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/" target="_blank">Mind the Gap</a> blog that <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#" target="_blank">discusses this issue</a> (towards the end).  In the comments, though, a number of ASCAP members express their displeasure with the organization.
<br /><br />
<a href="http://automaticheartbreak.com/" target="_blank">Corey Dargel</a> who also <a href="http://twitter.com/dargel/statuses/16862721947" target="_blank">tweeted his displeasure</a> and plans to quit ASCAP <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36449" target="_blank">commented</a>:
<blockquote><i>
I think ASCAP should be ashamed of itself, and I am presently ashamed to be a card-carrying member of ASCAP. The language in that fundraising email is fear-based and reactionary. Furthermore, it is misleading and disingenuous. ASCAP portrays itself as a grassroots organization and calls attention to the "deep pockets" of Creative Commons, but in fact it is *ASCAP*, not Creative Commons, that's siding with corporate interests and "deep pockets."
</i></blockquote>
A Rich T. <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36468" target="_blank">explains his problems</a> with the ASCAP campaign:
<blockquote><i>
    I'm the agent for my father, who was a studio musician, performer, music &#038; songwriter from the late 50's until the late 80's, when he retired.
<br /><br />
    We've been fighting with ASCAP for 6 years to get the money they received for selling the rights to several of his early recordings to a overseas company.
<br /><br />
    He also handed out free "right to record" statements at the end of each live show back when the recording industry was pushing the "taping is stealing" propaganda.
<br /><br />
    he's totally against anything that would further criminalize fair use, and has asked me to help him write up a appropriately scathing letter to ASCAP on the subject.
</i></blockquote>
ASCAP member sarah is <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36472" target="_blank">upset at the fear mongering</a>:
<blockquote><i>
    I got this letter yesterday; and all I could think was even if it was true, it wouldn't affect me -- seeing as how several songs I co-wrote have been airing regularly for over 2 years on TV (kid's show stuff, so I do mean regularly), yet I haven't seen a penny through ASCAP. I think they should worry about their own mission statement and get creators actually PAID.
<br /><br />
    And if I was actually getting my royalties, I would still think the letter was ridiculous and fear-mongering. But what else are they going to do -- let everyone know there's an issue that people need to thoughtfully and sensibly make up their own minds on? Of course not. 
</i></blockquote>
Musician <a href="http://jeremyjarratt.com/" target="_blank">Jeremy Jarratt</a> also announced <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36476" target="_blank">plans to quit ASCAP</a>:
<blockquote><i>
    I'm a card-carrying member of ASCAP as well. At least, i was until i got their message. I'm disaffiliating myself as soon as i can figure out how. This is ingenuous at best, and an insult to anyone with even the remotest modicum of understanding of modern digital content distribution. It shows only how antiquated this whole entire game is.
<br /><br />
    ASCAP should change their moniker to ASSHAT: American Society of Socially-Harmful Attorneys and Treasurers.
</i></blockquote>
Someone going by the name Bobkat who is a member of ASCAP admits that he generally likes ASCAP protecting his rights, but is <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36480" target="_blank">disgusted with the tone of the letter</a> and now very conflicted over how he feels about ASCAP:
<blockquote><i>
I'm also a member of ASCAP, and I was digusted by the tone of the letter. I hold Creative Commons and the EFF in high regard, and painting them as some kind of enemy of musicians is ridiculous. As a musician, I don't feel like a small-time individual has many options; I have a pretty broad idea of fair use, myself, but if Kanye sampled my song and made millions off of it then damn right I would want a piece. Without the resources to hire a lawyer, who else but ASCAP could help me get my share? Yet at the same time, I don't completely trust that they're really always protecting my best interests; and in this case I believe they have amply demonstrated how clumsy and old-fashioned their philosophy is. What a crummy situation.
</i></blockquote>
Similarly conflicted is <a href="http://bathory.org/" target="_blank">Dennis Bathory-Kitsz</a> who wrote a very long comment <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/gap/2010/06/the-right-balance-on-copying.html#comment-36484" target="_blank">trying to explain both sides</a>, but finally coming down on the side where he hopes ASCAP changes its stance (this one was long, so just some excerpts here):
<blockquote><i>
I'm a longtime member of both ASCAP and EFF, and I find the whole situation painful.
<br /><br />
ASCAP's broadcast and international royalty collections are poor (former is a lottery, latter is unenthusiastic) but their domestic performance royalties are good and appropriately scaled. I appreciate that, and also appreciate that their staff is actually fairly small.
<br /><br />
That said, I have to say I'm always disappointed by ASCAP's rough behavior (even if they're not nearly as awful as the RIAA). Maybe it's a negotiating stance, but it just tastes bad....
<br /><br />
....
<br /><br />
I attended one of the first ASCAP committee meetings about internet music use back in 1995 (where I met folks such as Laurie Spiegel and Morton Subotnik for the first time). I suspect that the composers in attendance 15 years ago are disappointed if not disgusted by the bullying position ASCAP has been taking (revealed as much in the "Daily Briefing" emails they send out as in the recent letter).
<br /><br />
So I hope ASCAP will rethink its position and arrive at a truly creative solution that acknowledges how culture (to which they're nominally allied) functions as opposed to a hard-line interpretation of the law. This is no easy task, as Congress has been doing the bidding of the real deep pockets in the past few decades.
</i></blockquote>
Meanwhile, there were some similar comments found on the <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/23/ascap-raising-money.html" target="_blank">BoingBoing article</a> on ASCAP's letter as well.  For example, there is <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/23/ascap-raising-money.html#comment-817364" target="_blank">this comment</a> from the musician <a href="http://www.sidedownaudio.com/kemmler/" target="_blank">Kemmler</a> who posted the email he sent back upon getting ASCAP's fundraising pitch:
<blockquote><i>
Dear Mr. Williams -
<br /><br />
I'm not interested in supporting any initiative based on this sort of information-free screed. I've personally relied on creative-commons licensed materials to use in my own work, as well as a license which provides a convenient way to both promote and control the dissemination of my own work.
<br /><br />
I also have a firm respect for the EFF and their efforts in protecting the interests of consumers and small business where they pertain to new media channels, the internet, or IP.
<br /><br />
As a musician, and as an entrepreneur making my living selling equipment to studios and musicians, I obviously have a great deal to lose if the putative forces of "copyleft" somehow succeed in preventing music being paid for. However, I cannot condone, or fail to decry the practice of vilifying institutions like Creative Commons, which poses absolutely no conceivable illegitimate threat to ASCAP or its members.
<br /><br />
If someone wants to license their materials under a CC license - that's their right. If someone wants to use CC-licensed material, and not pay ASCAP for some other material - that's also their right. Please grow up and get a grip.
</i></blockquote>
Similar to some of the conflicted artists above, someone going by the name "BrooklynTwang" who appears to be the musician <a href="http://www.renchaudio.com/" target="_blank">Rench</a> posted a comment about how he supports ASCAP and what it does, but <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/23/ascap-raising-money.html#comment-817659" target="_blank">hates this fundraising campaign</a>:
<blockquote><i>
I am an ASCAP member. I hate this fundraising letter and I am telling them so.
<br /><br />
You can tell them too, right here<br />
<a href="http://www.ascap.com/legislation/legislation-form.html" target="_blank">http://www.ascap.com/legislation/legislation-form.html</a>
<br /><br />
Just FYI though regarding the ASCAP-is-corporate-assholes talk, I am not a rich rockstar but I make money licensing music for film, tv, and commercials. I am happy to give music away free to the public, but if some corporation is going to use it to sell crap, they should pay me. Not just the up front fee, but royalties for each time they run the ad/show/film. ASCAP makes them do that so they don't get away with shortchanging artists like me. Thats one thing that ASCAP does, and thats why I am a member. ASCAP is not just another corporation. They are a player in a complex position between artists and corporations. They are not the bad guys, they are just not as good as they should be these days. Next time we vote on the ASCAP board members I will grill the nominees about this.
</i></blockquote>
That's not all either, but a quick sampling.  I'm sure that this won't have a noticeable impact on ASCAP, which has 380,000 members, most of whom probably don't know or don't care much about the details of what it is ASCAP is misleadingly attacking.  But ASCAP might want to be careful before continuing to attack organizations that actually do have musicians' best interests in mind.  They might find that more and more will start to question ASCAP's motives as well.  In the end, I doubt there was anything malicious in ASCAP's fundraising letter.  It's just that the organization is so far out of touch with what's happening in the music world today that it actually thinks attacking these groups makes sense.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100627/0142469971.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:57:02 PDT</pubDate>
<title>ASCAP Claiming That Creative Commons Must Be Stopped; Apparently They Don't Actually Believe In Artist Freedom</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ About a year and a half ago, we reported on the news that ASCAP, who represents songwriters and publishers as a collection society, was holding strategy sessions on how to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090125/2201473533.shtml">"counter"</a> proponents of free culture, as if they were some sort of attack on ASCAP.  Since then, we've actually noticed a growth in both the number of hilarious conspiracy-midned "attack blogs" from people tied to ASCAP, as well as an increase in the number of "anonymous" commenters on the site coming from IP addresses used by a few law firms that have connections to ASCAP.  Funny that.
<br><br>
Now it appears they're stepping things up to stage two: they've sent around <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89494/ascap-declares-war-on-free-culture/" target="_blank">fundraising emails that specifically ask for money to fight Creative Commons, EFF and Public Knowledge</a>.  What's amusing (but really sad) is that this proves that the rhetoric out of ASCAP about protecting "artists' rights" is bunk.  Creative Commons does nothing whatsoever to undermine artists' rights.  It merely offers them more options for how they choose to license their works.  It's the sort of thing that ASCAP and the rest of the music industry should embrace.  In fact, when confronted, many of these organizations often make the point that they have no problem with Creative Commons, and they're happy if artists choose to use CC licenses.
<br><br>
But ASCAP's blatant attack on Creative Commons (and EFF and PK; both of whom focus on consumer rights, but not undermining artist's rights at all) shows their true colors.  They're not about artists' rights at all.  They're about greater protectionism -- which is not (at all) the same thing.
<br><br>
Of course, all this makes me wonder why ASCAP members would support an organization that is, in fact, actively trying to diminish their options for licensing?  ASCAP has a huge ulterior motive, of course.  If alternative business models and things like Creative Commons become more widely used, the reliance on ASCAP diminishes, and ASCAP doesn't want that at all.
<br><br>
Below is the letter itself, which was posted by Mike Rugnetta:
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Really sad day for ASCAP that it would stoop so low as to claim that giving creators more options and more business model and distributions options is somehow bad.  Pretty much takes away all of its credibility.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100624/1640199954.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>More People Realizing That ASCAP And BMI Are Killing Local Music Scenes</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<br /><br />
It seems that more people are noticing this.
<br /><br />
The Boston Globe recently had an article highlighting how these practices are <a href="http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/06/09/pay_to_play/" target="_blank">incredibly damaging for local music scenes</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Across New England, church coffeehouses, library cafes, and eateries that pass the hat to pay local musicians or open their doors to casual jam sessions are experiencing a crackdown by performance rights organizations, or PROs, which collect royalties for songwriters.
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The FurdLog blog wonders that if people say downloading unauthorized material is "theft," then <a href="http://msl1.mit.edu/furdlog/?p=8157" target="_blank">what should we call</a> this practice of performance rights organizations bullying small venues around the country into closing.  What a shame.  It's really stunning how much harm ASCAP, BMI and SESAC are doing for musicians -- the very people they're supposed to help.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Nice Work ASCAP: Convinces Yet Another Coffee Shop To Stop Promoting Local Bands</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We see nearly identical stories every six months or so, but Chris Curvey has sent in the latest involving the various US collection societies -- ASCAP, BMI and SESAC <a href="http://www.viewnews.com/2010/VIEW-May-18-Tue-2010/Henderson/35878176.html" target="_blank">threatening a little coffee shop</a> into canceling all live music, after demanding a performance license, despite the fact that the coffee shop only has local, unsigned bands playing, with a promise that they won't play any cover songs.  It's the same old story that we hear over and over again.  The venue insists that only unsigned bands are playing, and they're not playing ASCAP music, and ASCAP says that it doesn't matter.  You need to pay up <i>just in case</i> a band happens to hum someone else's song:
<blockquote><i>
"I am 100 percent in compliance," Hopper said. "I'm not charging cover at the door. I'm not paying the bands, and they are just playing songs they wrote. They essentially said to me, 'We don't care. We have this low-end licensing fee you must have because there is a chance your band might play a cover song.' "
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This has been happening all over the country, and the end result is actually causing <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090109/1823043352.shtml">massive harm for up-and-coming artists</a>.  That's because these kinds of coffee shops and small bars that used to be where most musicians would get their start via open mic nights, are now banning all music to avoid having to pay these licenses.  It means there are fewer places for musicians to have a chance to perform in front of a live audience.  ASCAP/BMI/SESAC claiming that they're helping artists is a flat out lie.  Their mission is really to support the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090909/0318406140.shtml">largest acts</a> at the expense of smaller acts, and ridiculous demands on coffee shops like the one above contributes to that situation.  They even <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091118/0916136988.shtml">admit it</a> at times, when you catch them talking candidly.
<br /><br />
Some folks have been willing to stand up to these collection societies, like the town in Connecticut who received license demands for music played at the town center.  In response, the town council voted to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090625/0143055354.shtml">ignore the threats</a>.  But, it seems that it's just easier for most little shops to just stop playing music altogether.  Of course, that goes against ASCAP's public claims of being in the interest of artists, but ASCAP and BMI have made their real goals clear through their actions, and it has little to do with actually helping up-and-coming artists.  After all, they might compete with the big stars.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/2341299481.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/2341299481.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/2341299481.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:13:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Springsteen Pissed At ASCAP For Implying He Instigated Lawsuit Against Pub; Demands His Name Removed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The antics of ASCAP get sadder and sadder with each month.  In just the last year alone, the group has claimed that embedding videos from YouTube <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090709/0109185492.shtml">requires a performance license</a> despite the fact that YouTube <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090519/1127454934.shtml">already pays</a> them.  It's also claimed that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090620/1836345299.shtml">ringtones are a public performance</a> as are the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/0505016226.shtml">30 second preview clips</a> you hear on iTunes (yes, seriously, they want to be paid for those too).  And, of course, every time we post about ASCAP we get people saying that we shouldn't pick on them because they represent the actual songwriters, unlike the RIAA.  But the truth is that ASCAP rarely has the best interests of songwriters in mind, especially smaller ones who often get <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090909/0318406140.shtml">hurt</a> by the way ASCAP determines payouts.
<br /><br />
And now it seems that even some of the big acts are getting quite pissed off at ASCAP.  One of the key things that ASCAP has done for years, of course, is threaten venues for not paying a license to have music playing in the background.  The end result actually <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090109/1823043352.shtml">harms</a> many artists because venues stop playing music completely and shut down things like open mic nights, which are so critical for many up-and-coming musicians.
<br /><br />
Every so often ASCAP goes to the point of suing, and in its latest lawsuit against Connolly's Pub in midtown Manhattan (actually a pretty good place), it named Bruce Springsteen as a plaintiff in the lawsuit, suggesting Springsteen was ripped off.  That resulted in headlines, like the one from The Daily News pointing out that <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/02/04/2010-02-04_the_boss_strikes_sour_note_with_midtown_bar_and_sues_for_copyright_infringement_.html" target="_blank">Springsteen himself was suing the pub</a>.  Of course, it was actually ASCAP, but the whole mess has The Boss so pissed off that he <a href="http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease&#038;o=3650" target="_blank">put out a statement slamming ASCAP</a> and saying he wants nothing to do with the lawsuit and ASCAP never should have filed it in the first place:
<blockquote><i>
ASCAP was solely responsible for naming Bruce Springsteen as a plaintiff in
the lawsuit. Bruce Springsteen had no knowledge of this lawsuit, was not asked if he would participate as a named plaintiff, and would not have agreed to do so if he had been asked. Upon learning of this lawsuit this morning, Bruce Springsteen's representatives demanded the immediate removal of his name from the lawsuit.
</i></blockquote>
Yup, that ASCAP.  All about helping the artists and creators, right?  Except when they smear their name in lawsuits they want nothing to be a part of...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1525198055.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1525198055.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1525198055.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>nice-one,-ASCAP</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:27:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>ASCAP Now Demanding License From Venues That Let People Play Guitar Hero</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been detailing how the various collection societies around the globe have been trotting out all sorts of dubious reasoning to try to get more people to pay up for a license.  In the US, ASCAP has been particularly ridiculous, seeking public performance licenses for (legally licensed) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091015/1502486549.shtml">ringtones</a> as well as the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/0505016226.shtml">30-second previews</a> you find on music download stores like iTunes.  ASCAP has already <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090519/1127454934.shtml">succeeded</a> in forcing YouTube to pay up as well.  Of course, the end result has actually been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090109/1823043352.shtml">harming</a> many up and coming songwriters and musicians, as more and more venues are choosing to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091118/0916136988.shtml">forego music</a> entirely, because it's just not worth having to pay up the fees that ASCAP charges.
<br /><br />
In the latest overreach, sent in by reader <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=faceless">faceless</a>, ASCAP is <a href="http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=114426" target="_blank">demanding a licensing fee from a venue that has the video game <i>Guitar Hero</i></a> for people to play.  While the venue does sometimes have live musicians, it has purposely chosen to only allow original music (no covers) from artists and songwriters not covered by ASCAP, to avoid having to pay the fee.  As the venue owner notes, it's ridiculous to think that the venue should have to pay for a license just to let people play <i>Guitar Hero</i>, saying, <i>"patrons are paying for the entertainment of the game not for the listening value of the music."</i>  But, of course, that's not how ASCAP views any of these things, insisting that the value itself comes from the music, and thus the songwriters must absolutely be paid.  Of course, this isn't the first time ASCAP has come down hard on music video games.  Earlier this year, it insisted that the video game companies themselves should <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090522/1454244983.shtml">pay performance licensing fees</a> as well -- so in this case it looks like they're trying to double or triple dip.
<br /><br />
Of course, the most likely end result?  The venue will drop the game, and fewer people will hear the music.  This harms everyone -- the songwriters, the musicians, ASCAP and the venue.  But ASCAP seems to think it's the right move.  This is why more and more musicians are recognizing that what's good for ASCAP <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080529/2308011264.shtml">is not good for songwriters</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091214/0857127338.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091214/0857127338.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091214/0857127338.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>can't-listen-without-paying-up</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Entertainment Industry: Yes, Please Keep Negotiating Secret Copyright Treaty To Save Our Asses</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Sherwin Siy (one of the few people who actually was allowed to glance briefly at parts of the proposed ACTA treaty, though under strict NDA) has written about <a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2779" target="_blank">yet another letter sent by the entertainment industry</a> to the government in support of ACTA.  This letter includes pretty much everyone who benefits from abusing copyright laws and is afraid of the internet: 
<blockquote><i>
Advertising Photographers of America<br>
American Association of Independent Music (A2IM)<br>
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)<br>
American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)<br>
American Society of Media Photographers, Inc. (ASMP)<br>
Association of American Publishers (AAP)<br>
Broadcast Music, Inc (BMI)<br>
Commercial Photographers International<br>
Directors Guild of America (DGA)<br>
Evidence Photographers International Council<br>
Independent Film and Television Alliance (IFTA)<br>
International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE)<br>
Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (MPAA)<br>
National Music Publishers Association (NMPA)<br>
NBC Universal<br>
News Corporation<br>
Picture Archive Council of America (PACA)<br>
Professional Photographers of America (PPA)<br>
Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)<br>
Reed Elsevier Inc.<br>
Society of Sport & Event Photographers<br>
Software & Information Industry Association (SIIA)<br>
Stock Artists Alliance<br>
Student Photographic Society<br>
The Advertising Photographers of America<br>
The Walt Disney Company<br>
Time Warner, Inc.<br>
Universal Music Group<br>
Viacom Inc.<br>
Warner Music Group
</i></blockquote>
Funny... isn't it, that all these companies and industry groups are supporting a deal that no one's seen yet?  Oh wait... that's because many of them <i>have</i> seen it and actually have had a hand in creating it.  But what's really damning is that no where in the letter do they explain why this is actually needed or how it will do anything valuable.  Instead, it's a pure faith-based letter saying "if you pass this secret treaty, good things will happen."  I don't know about you, but generally, I prefer there to be actual proof and evidence that restricting consumer rights around the world actually leads to some sort of real benefit.
<br><br>
Tellingly, they don't respond to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091119/1904177017.shtml">any of the points</a> we raised earlier.  This is not a treaty to help people or the economy.  It's a deal to try to sneak through a system for propping up an obsolete business model by companies who don't want to adapt.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/1605477032.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/1605477032.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091120/1605477032.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:23:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>ASCAP, BMI And SESAC Continue To Screw Over Most Songwriters: 'Write A Hit Song If You Want Money'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We keep hearing from folks how the collections societies in the US for songwriters and composers, ASCAP, BMI and SESAC, are supposedly the "good guys" in that they actually give money to the actual musicians, and they aren't like the RIAA at all.  But the evidence continues to be lacking on that front.  In fact, it increasingly looks like they're doing a lot more harm to most musicians.  Earlier this year, we noted that their aggressiveness in getting just about any small venue to pay up fees was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090109/1823043352.shtml">killing off open mic nights</a> and other sorts of venues that allowed musicians to play live.  <a href="http://www.gadgetsteria.com/" target="_blank">Mike</a> points us to the news that <a href="http://www.sctimes.com/article/20091117/NEWS01/111170004/Sounds-of-silence?-Fees-spur-venues-to-scrap-live-music" target="_blank">many venues are simply giving up on live music</a>.  The problem?  Well, ASCAP, BMI and SESAC are all demanding huge fees.  Even the restaurants that don't bring in cover bands are being told they need to pay up, just in case a musician happens to do a cover in the middle of a wholly original set.  The licensing organizations don't seem to care, they just want you to pay, just in case.  When asked how they know that covered music is being played, they admit they don't:
<blockquote><i>
"Basically, we don't know," said Dave Ascher, the SESAC Music Licensing Consultant who sent the letters. "To make a long story short, there's no way, logistically, for us to know whether on a day-to-day basis they're playing SESAC music."
</i></blockquote>
But, just in case, you need to pay up.  Of course, rather than doing that, the venues are just giving up on live music, providing fewer places for musicians to perform, hone their craft, and build up a following (and a business model).
<br /><br />
As for the claim that these organizations help bring in money for those musicians, well, that's not seen either.  We've already seen how they only give money to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090909/0318406140.shtml">big name artists</a> in most cases, because that's all they're able to track.  In fact, the article talks to one musician who's upset about all the venues closing, but is still registering his songs with ASCAP.  When asked if he's received any royalty check at all, the answer was no.  So, how do the collections organizations respond?  They tell them to become more famous:
<blockquote><i>
"I'm sorry to hear that, but what I would like to tell him is that he needs to write a hit song," BMI's Bailey said.
</i></blockquote>
How nice.  They funnel all the money to big name artists, force venues to close so new artists can't become famous, and then when asked about giving money to those up-and-coming artists, they flippantly tell them to become more famous.
<br /><br />
At some point, musicians and songwriters need to learn that these organizations are not doing things in their best interests at all.  They're simply bureaucracies to funnel money to big names, while limiting the competition.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091118/0916136988.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091118/0916136988.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091118/0916136988.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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