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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:23:58 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is It Ethical For The American Bar Association To Claim Copyright On Its Ethics Opinions?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It sometimes amazes me how some copyright holders exert copyright when it makes absolutely no sense at all.  There are plenty of times when -- even if something is covered by copyright -- it would be silly to use it.  And, yet, sometimes, it still happens.  Take, for example, this story sent over by Aaron DeOliveira.  A lawyer, Ernie Svenson, posted a PDF file containing an American Bar Association "ethics opinion" on his blog... and <a href="http://www.ernietheattorney.net/ernietheattorney/2012/10/18/ethics-alert-be-careful-about-posting-aba-formal-ethics-opin.html?lastPage=true&#038;postSubmitted=true" target="_blank">the ABA threatened him with a copyright infringement claim</a>.  Remember, this is an <i>ethics opinion</i> from the ABA -- basically telling lawyers how they should act.  You would <i>think</i> that they would want such things spread as far and wide as possible.  I mean, that's what you would think if you were sensible.  But... this is the ABA, and they just think "copyright infringement."  Svenson is bewildered by the situation, noting that he would have thought the ABA would also want more lawyers aware of its ethical opinions.
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Another lawyer, Carolyn Elefant, who has apparently <a href="http://myshingle.com/2010/09/articles/ethics-malpractice-issues/lawyers-want-to-be-good-so-why-does-the-aba-make-it-so-darn-hard/" target="_blank">complained</a> about this stance by the ABA for a while, has <a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/the-american-bar-association-aba-stop-copyrighting-ethics-opinions-keeping-them-behind-a-paywall" target="_blank">set up an online petition</a> asking the ABA to stop copyrighting its ethics opinions, and has also written 
<a href="http://myshingle.com/2012/10/articles/announcements/to-the-aba-tear-down-the-pay-wall-that-keeps-ethics-opinions-from-seeing-the-light-of-day-sign-my-change-org-petition/" target="_blank">a fantastic blog post about why it's so stupid for the ABA to do this</a>.  She notes that even if you think the RIAA's copyright tactics are ridiculous, at least it can legitimately claim that it thinks it's protecting its constituents.  But, you can't make that argument here:
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...  whether you agree with the RIAA's tactics or not, at least its copyright enforcement activity is intended to protect RIAA's constituents; artists, musicians and record companies who lose money when their music is misappropriated.  By contrast, the ABA&#8217;s policy of copyrighting ethics opinions -- the source of authority that govern lawyers&#8217; conduct and inform many state bodies regulating lawyers &#8212; and locking them behind a paywall hurts lawyers and the public.
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She goes on to point out that while she's argued that locking up ethics opinions harms lawyers, she's now realizing that it also harms the public -- for no good reason.
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But now I realize that the problem caused by the ABA&#8217;s policy goes way beyond lawyers and affects the public.&nbsp; Members of the public may not realize that lawyers can&#8217;t just outsource work to non-firm members without supervision (<a href="http://apps.americanbar.org/abanet/media/release/news_release.cfm?releaseid=435">Ethics Opinion 08-451</a>) or are limited in their ability to change fees in the course of representation &nbsp;<a href="http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/11_458_nm_formal_opinion.authcheckdam.pdf">ABA Formal Opinion 11-458</a> (still online free!). Deprived of access to ethics opinions, clients may tolerate lawyers&#8217; unethical conduct, ultimately prejudicing their case.
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I really wonder what the ABA's defense for copyrighting ethics policies are, and why it would go after lawyers who share them.  This really feels like a "because we can" situation, no matter how ridiculously counterproductive it is.  Unfortunately, when it comes to intellectual property, there are way too many lawyers who seem to think "we can" automatically means "we should."
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I wonder if someone could get the ABA to issue an "ethics opinion" on locking up crucial information on lawyer ethics from other lawyers and the public.  It seems to me that it would be quite easy to make the argument that it's incredibly unethical.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/22441420774/is-it-ethical-american-bar-association-to-claim-copyright-its-ethics-opinions.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/22441420774/is-it-ethical-american-bar-association-to-claim-copyright-its-ethics-opinions.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/22441420774/is-it-ethical-american-bar-association-to-claim-copyright-its-ethics-opinions.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:12:21 PST</pubDate>
<title>Internal Fight Within The ABA Over Position On SOPA</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've noted in the past that there's been a bit of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111108/23201616688/viacom-exec-everyone-knows-rogue-site-when-they-see-one-except-he-doesnt.shtml">a debate</a> within the American Bar Association concerning the position it should take on SOPA/PROTECT-IP.  It seems that the fight is heating up, and different kinds of lawyers are fighting about it.  The Trademark Legislation Committee agreed to and adopted (by a pretty wide margin) a resolution saying that SOPA needed significant changes to prevent abuse.  A key change?  That the private right of action should be filed "under penalty of perjury," rather than the toothless sanctions for those who file bogus takedowns.  This seems like a reasonable suggestion to prevent abuse, and the Committee agreed.
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But... then the copyright lawyers flipped out.  Despite this and other suggestions already being agreed to, the copyright folks proposed a bunch of changes -- including deleting the "penalty of perjury" inclusion.  Another change?  The trademark lawyers had agreed that the private right of action definition of "dedicated to theft of US property" should be much more limited, adding significant qualifiers to what is covered to deal with the vagueness of the definition.  The copyright lawyers want that deleted as well.
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Further on that point, the letter the trademark lawyers prepared highlighted serious concerns about how vague the definition of "dedicated to theft of US property" is, and pointed out how it has significant inconsistencies that "need to be addressed."  The copyright lawyers?  Apparently they don't want to address the inconsistencies and want the whole complaint about the language dumped.  Specifically, here was the recommendation that had been approved:
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As worded, the definition of web sites that are &ldquo;Dedicated to Theft of U.S. Property,&rdquo; which forms the basis of liability pursuant to this bill, is vague and requires some clarification.  Specifically, &sect; 103(a)(1)(B)(i) provides three different ways in which a U.S. directed site could have exposure to action under this bill: 1) if it is &ldquo;primarily designed or operated for the purpose of . . . offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates&rdquo; a violation of 17 U.S.C. &sect; &sect; 501 or 1201, or counterfeiting under 15 U.S.C. &sect; 1116(d) or 18 U.S.C. &sect; 2320; 2) if it &ldquo;has only limited purpose or use other than . . . offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates&rdquo; the same violations; or 3) if it &ldquo;is marketed by its operator or another acting in concert with that operator for use in offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates&rdquo; the same violations.   
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Option three in this series does not require a showing that the marketing efforts have a primary purpose of, or have a limited purpose other than, infringing these intellectual property rights.  We believe this inconsistency needs to be addressed to reduce possibility of abuse that could result in the effective shut down (by disabling a revenue stream) of an otherwise legitimate web site that offered a single product later determined to be a counterfeit.  
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In order to effectuate this purpose, option three in the series identified above should be modified to reflect a narrow interpretation of the definition of &ldquo;Dedicated to Theft of U.S. Property.&rdquo;
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The copyright lawyers?  Want that whole section left out.  Basically, it looks like anything that highlights the serious problems of SOPA should be taken out, according to the copyright lawyers.  The stuff left in is minor and inconsequential.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111205/04463116971/internal-fight-within-aba-over-position-sopa.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111205/04463116971/internal-fight-within-aba-over-position-sopa.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111205/04463116971/internal-fight-within-aba-over-position-sopa.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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