wouldn't the ability to drive the car in a video game want to make people want to drive them even more in real life and therefore make them even more envious? your reasoning makes no sense.
"I highly doubt you will ever see anything from him though, and especially nothing that is free...."
dude... you just read and responded to a free article written by him. he writes articles all the time and lets you read them for free. he lets other folks copy them and doesn't force them to license it. how dense are you?
I wouldn't sell the music thing short. If you split it up, you probably would have sold more. To be honest, the artists don't really go well together except for those with quite eclectic tastes. I purchased it based off of not just Amanda Palmer's signature, but Neil Gaiman's as well. I'm happy to say that I enjoyed the other artists too. I hadn't even heard any of their things until after I received the package. The music box was a nice touch, obviously not something to be repeated exactly as such, but it was creative. The handwritten lyrics was also nice too. It creates a kind of connection with the artist to have something you know they did personally, even if they did it quite a lot.
I hope you keep the music club or some form of it around for awhile. Try to pick up new artists, etc. Maybe even have a cheaper music tier for those that don't want to dish out so much for an artist they haven't heard of, but possibly just help various artists get their name out there. It'd be really neat if you could get Trent Reznor.
I enjoyed the music club greatly. Definitely one of the best and well-remembered purchases of the past year.
It's not that they don't believe in it, its just a matter that some people can't afford it. Some people will always live in debt because they don't get paid enough (or, less sympathy for those who just can't spend wisely). It happens.
my credit card was charged a few bogus charges from paypal. paypal actually contacted me and asked me about the charges because it was suspicious to them. they canceled the charges and recommended i get a new card. capitalone actually tried to convince me not to get a new card and said somebody probably accidentally typed in the wrong credit card number. after enough insisting, they finally issued me a new card, but seriously, i never would have expected that.
until identity theft is deemed as just another way to steal from a bank or moneylending institution, they won't offer free credit watches and what not. when the problem falls squarely on their shoulders and they have to deal with the fallout instead of the customer, then they'll start being proactive about it.
Honestly, I was considering purchasing one because it does have one advantage: you don't have to carry around those big game discs. When you get even more than a handful of games, it starts becoming a pain carrying them around with you on trips if you're not sure what you wanna play in the near future. However, my purchase was contingent on their "goodwill" program to allow the transfer of already purchased UMD games to the psp go... however, they've backed out of that one so they've lost me. Until I can transfer my UMD games to it and buy any game that's available on the original PSP, I'm not buying one. And a decent price drop would be welcome as well. I mean come on, its not that much cheaper than the PS3 now.
I'm surprised east texas isn't worried that companies are going to start moving out of there in fear of getting sued randomly. Any company that even remotely has anything to do with the internet or technology should be in constant fear of pointless lawsuits now. its like east texas WANTS to hurt its own economy. how long before we hear about companies avoiding moving there or actually leaving?
Apple is screwing over anybody who doesn't want to use their hardware. Why are they forcing fans of their software to have to install, learn, use, and manage an entirely different application for the sole reason that they don't own an iPod. If Microsoft's Zune software was top dog like iTunes, people would be screaming about it (and please, don't try and lie and say you'd backup Microsoft. Microsoft has used their leverage all the time and get kicked for it. Here, Apple is using theirs and you're defending them.)
Personally, I think they should drop iTunes support. If iTunes isn't going to play nice, why should they? If the iTunes application isn't going to work with anything else then why should anyone go out of their way to work with iTunes. Its frankly hypocritical of you.
No one is asking Apple to make sure its software works with anyone else's hardware. Folks are asking that they stop *crippling* their own software so that it won't work with anyone else's hardware. There's a vastly huge difference. Just as they use hardware DRM to force OS X to only run on Mac hardware, its not a matter of incompatibility as to why other devices can't sync with iTunes.
You never actually answered the question. When you break down your argument, you still just say, "It's wrong because what they're doing is wrong." Why is it wrong? How is Palm "abusing" Apple's labor? Apple isn't putting any extra effort in here. In fact, they're making more for themselves. In the end, Apple is abusing their own labor.
Plus, you realize in this fight, the consumer should technically side with Palm. There's really no reason to side with Apple. They're hindering consumers. Apple: "Oh, you use iTunes because you like it? Oh wait, but you don't have an iPod or iPhone. We're sorry, you'll have to learn to use another application if you actually want to sync your library with anything. Its not that we hate it but... oh wait... I guess we kind of do."
I'm all for you defending him and saying he isn't a crybaby, thats fine. But seriously... his show is completely devoid of intelligence. He contradicts himself all the time. "He has a deep seated hatred for the white man." "I never said he didn't like white men." Seriously? (while I used quotes, I'm not quite sure if those are the *exact* words, but its extremely close and not taken out of context either.)
you try to use big words, but none of them back up your position. there's absolutely nothing wrong with using reductio ad absurdum as a formal argument. your entire post is laced with opinion, but absolutely no reasoning behind it. its as if you want everyone to overlook the lack of actual content by justifying all that money you spent on an english degree.
Mike's point isn't that the artist's ideas should have any weight. Its that the RIAA said they're doing this for the artists, so Mike is saying, why not talk to the artists if this is being done for their benefit? You seem to be ENTIRELY missing the point.
I'll admit, Amanda Palmer & Neil Gaiman were the main reasons I purchased the Music Club. I'm not upset about the purchase, but I have to say that I may have purchased only this if it were available at the time. Just goes to show how much I was willing to spend to get something of that nature. Fans really will go above and beyond retail prices for something that they consider valuable. When NIN had its ultra deluxe limited edition release of Ghosts I-IV, I jumped on that as well. Whilst there are few folks I'd dish out that much money for something, those few I'd spend quite a bit on.
I have to admit, I am looking forward to the other artists' offerings in the group as I'm not extremely familiar with any of them.
They're not trying to fight any problem. They're just trying to strengthen copyrights so that the newspapers have to do less work for more money. They know that is the current situation. Right now, they assume its more economical to try and change the law as opposed to changing the business model though. However, they obviously can't use that as their line of reasoning so they have to come up with something that's not false, but sounds like a problem. Their answer to that dilemma is Newser.
Seriously? That blog is your source that Apple admits AT&T is the one that pulled Google Voice? A screenshot? A lowly tech talking about things he probably doesn't even have access to?
I find it intriguing that any time more than one ad thats even remotely bad about Apple shows up, people assume its a conspiracy. Get a grip, maybe the company you so thoroughly love and try to protect is actually just like any other company.
Every little thing, good or bad, is all over the blogosphere. If people are going to post articles every other second about how awesome the iPhone is, you can expect the same thing when the company does something stupid. Yea, it may be standard legalese for some companies, but nonetheless, its still stupid and people finally brought it to the world's attention that companies are doing this.
Apple got more coverage on the week leading up to AND on the day the Pre was released. I didn't hear you complaining about it then.
For the most part, the way people drive negate the actual fuel savings over automatics. Its like people saying getting the diet coke with their super-sized mcdonalds meal saves them calories. Yea, technically it does, but you're defeating its purpose by not eating properly in general.
I'm fairly certain most online stores have various agreements you must agree to in order to purchase the music. If you're talking about re-selling digital copies of a CD you've purchased, well, thats already illegal, therefore no agreements are required.
So, theoretically, you can't resell music you've purchased (unless its the actual CD and we're all aware that you can resell those anyway).
I also enjoy how if anybody ever says something bad about Apple, that entire entity is somehow seen as always bashing Apple and anti-Apple. Wired is historically an Apple supporter and its generally the exception when you see an anti-Apple article in Wired. I guess Apple fans really did find a way to justify Apple's position in this.
His take is blown out of proportion in the complete opposite direction. If jailbreaking an iPhone somehow gives you more access to the phone as opposed to jailbreaking any other phone, then thats problem with the design and needs to be fixed. Security holes should not be plugged by laws, they should be plugged by software fixes. And no, commercial interests can't distribute malicious software and claim protection. If its malicious, they'll still get in trouble.
Dan's take is actually pretty ridiculous once you stop and think about it. Most of his stuff is sensationalist and he does little to hide his biased against Apple competitors.
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wouldn't the ability to drive the car in a video game want to make people want to drive them even more in real life and therefore make them even more envious? your reasoning makes no sense.
Re: In mikee's world (as pjhenry1216)
"I highly doubt you will ever see anything from him though, and especially nothing that is free...."
dude... you just read and responded to a free article written by him. he writes articles all the time and lets you read them for free. he lets other folks copy them and doesn't force them to license it. how dense are you?
music club = awesome (as pjhenry1216)
I wouldn't sell the music thing short. If you split it up, you probably would have sold more. To be honest, the artists don't really go well together except for those with quite eclectic tastes. I purchased it based off of not just Amanda Palmer's signature, but Neil Gaiman's as well. I'm happy to say that I enjoyed the other artists too. I hadn't even heard any of their things until after I received the package. The music box was a nice touch, obviously not something to be repeated exactly as such, but it was creative. The handwritten lyrics was also nice too. It creates a kind of connection with the artist to have something you know they did personally, even if they did it quite a lot.
I hope you keep the music club or some form of it around for awhile. Try to pick up new artists, etc. Maybe even have a cheaper music tier for those that don't want to dish out so much for an artist they haven't heard of, but possibly just help various artists get their name out there. It'd be really neat if you could get Trent Reznor.
I enjoyed the music club greatly. Definitely one of the best and well-remembered purchases of the past year.
Re: A Solution to Credit Card Problems that Works... (as pjhenry1216)
It's not that they don't believe in it, its just a matter that some people can't afford it. Some people will always live in debt because they don't get paid enough (or, less sympathy for those who just can't spend wisely). It happens.
at least they didn't give him a problem with getting a new card (as pjhenry1216)
my credit card was charged a few bogus charges from paypal. paypal actually contacted me and asked me about the charges because it was suspicious to them. they canceled the charges and recommended i get a new card. capitalone actually tried to convince me not to get a new card and said somebody probably accidentally typed in the wrong credit card number. after enough insisting, they finally issued me a new card, but seriously, i never would have expected that.
until identity theft is deemed as just another way to steal from a bank or moneylending institution, they won't offer free credit watches and what not. when the problem falls squarely on their shoulders and they have to deal with the fallout instead of the customer, then they'll start being proactive about it.
Re: (as pjhenry1216)
Honestly, I was considering purchasing one because it does have one advantage: you don't have to carry around those big game discs. When you get even more than a handful of games, it starts becoming a pain carrying them around with you on trips if you're not sure what you wanna play in the near future. However, my purchase was contingent on their "goodwill" program to allow the transfer of already purchased UMD games to the psp go... however, they've backed out of that one so they've lost me. Until I can transfer my UMD games to it and buy any game that's available on the original PSP, I'm not buying one. And a decent price drop would be welcome as well. I mean come on, its not that much cheaper than the PS3 now.
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I'm surprised east texas isn't worried that companies are going to start moving out of there in fear of getting sued randomly. Any company that even remotely has anything to do with the internet or technology should be in constant fear of pointless lawsuits now. its like east texas WANTS to hurt its own economy. how long before we hear about companies avoiding moving there or actually leaving?
Re: One more time... (as pjhenry1216)
Apple is screwing over anybody who doesn't want to use their hardware. Why are they forcing fans of their software to have to install, learn, use, and manage an entirely different application for the sole reason that they don't own an iPod. If Microsoft's Zune software was top dog like iTunes, people would be screaming about it (and please, don't try and lie and say you'd backup Microsoft. Microsoft has used their leverage all the time and get kicked for it. Here, Apple is using theirs and you're defending them.)
Personally, I think they should drop iTunes support. If iTunes isn't going to play nice, why should they? If the iTunes application isn't going to work with anything else then why should anyone go out of their way to work with iTunes. Its frankly hypocritical of you.
Re: Re: Re: (as pjhenry1216)
No one is asking Apple to make sure its software works with anyone else's hardware. Folks are asking that they stop *crippling* their own software so that it won't work with anyone else's hardware. There's a vastly huge difference. Just as they use hardware DRM to force OS X to only run on Mac hardware, its not a matter of incompatibility as to why other devices can't sync with iTunes.
Re: Re: Re: (as pjhenry1216)
You never actually answered the question. When you break down your argument, you still just say, "It's wrong because what they're doing is wrong." Why is it wrong? How is Palm "abusing" Apple's labor? Apple isn't putting any extra effort in here. In fact, they're making more for themselves. In the end, Apple is abusing their own labor.
Plus, you realize in this fight, the consumer should technically side with Palm. There's really no reason to side with Apple. They're hindering consumers. Apple: "Oh, you use iTunes because you like it? Oh wait, but you don't have an iPod or iPhone. We're sorry, you'll have to learn to use another application if you actually want to sync your library with anything. Its not that we hate it but... oh wait... I guess we kind of do."
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I'm all for you defending him and saying he isn't a crybaby, thats fine. But seriously... his show is completely devoid of intelligence. He contradicts himself all the time. "He has a deep seated hatred for the white man." "I never said he didn't like white men." Seriously? (while I used quotes, I'm not quite sure if those are the *exact* words, but its extremely close and not taken out of context either.)
Re: (as pjhenry1216)
you try to use big words, but none of them back up your position. there's absolutely nothing wrong with using reductio ad absurdum as a formal argument. your entire post is laced with opinion, but absolutely no reasoning behind it. its as if you want everyone to overlook the lack of actual content by justifying all that money you spent on an english degree.
Re: Re: Just a fun idea. (as pjhenry1216)
Mike's point isn't that the artist's ideas should have any weight. Its that the RIAA said they're doing this for the artists, so Mike is saying, why not talk to the artists if this is being done for their benefit? You seem to be ENTIRELY missing the point.
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I'll admit, Amanda Palmer & Neil Gaiman were the main reasons I purchased the Music Club. I'm not upset about the purchase, but I have to say that I may have purchased only this if it were available at the time. Just goes to show how much I was willing to spend to get something of that nature. Fans really will go above and beyond retail prices for something that they consider valuable. When NIN had its ultra deluxe limited edition release of Ghosts I-IV, I jumped on that as well. Whilst there are few folks I'd dish out that much money for something, those few I'd spend quite a bit on.
I have to admit, I am looking forward to the other artists' offerings in the group as I'm not extremely familiar with any of them.
Want to know why? (as pjhenry1216)
They're not trying to fight any problem. They're just trying to strengthen copyrights so that the newspapers have to do less work for more money. They know that is the current situation. Right now, they assume its more economical to try and change the law as opposed to changing the business model though. However, they obviously can't use that as their line of reasoning so they have to come up with something that's not false, but sounds like a problem. Their answer to that dilemma is Newser.
Re: You should always read more than one source (as pjhenry1216)
Seriously? That blog is your source that Apple admits AT&T is the one that pulled Google Voice? A screenshot? A lowly tech talking about things he probably doesn't even have access to?
I find it intriguing that any time more than one ad thats even remotely bad about Apple shows up, people assume its a conspiracy. Get a grip, maybe the company you so thoroughly love and try to protect is actually just like any other company.
Every little thing, good or bad, is all over the blogosphere. If people are going to post articles every other second about how awesome the iPhone is, you can expect the same thing when the company does something stupid. Yea, it may be standard legalese for some companies, but nonetheless, its still stupid and people finally brought it to the world's attention that companies are doing this.
Apple got more coverage on the week leading up to AND on the day the Pre was released. I didn't hear you complaining about it then.
Re: But, there are two kinds of automatic transmissions (as pjhenry1216)
For the most part, the way people drive negate the actual fuel savings over automatics. Its like people saying getting the diet coke with their super-sized mcdonalds meal saves them calories. Yea, technically it does, but you're defeating its purpose by not eating properly in general.
Re: (as pjhenry1216)
I'm fairly certain most online stores have various agreements you must agree to in order to purchase the music. If you're talking about re-selling digital copies of a CD you've purchased, well, thats already illegal, therefore no agreements are required.
So, theoretically, you can't resell music you've purchased (unless its the actual CD and we're all aware that you can resell those anyway).
Re: Re: A different perspective (as pjhenry1216)
I also enjoy how if anybody ever says something bad about Apple, that entire entity is somehow seen as always bashing Apple and anti-Apple. Wired is historically an Apple supporter and its generally the exception when you see an anti-Apple article in Wired. I guess Apple fans really did find a way to justify Apple's position in this.
Re: A different perspective (as pjhenry1216)
His take is blown out of proportion in the complete opposite direction. If jailbreaking an iPhone somehow gives you more access to the phone as opposed to jailbreaking any other phone, then thats problem with the design and needs to be fixed. Security holes should not be plugged by laws, they should be plugged by software fixes. And no, commercial interests can't distribute malicious software and claim protection. If its malicious, they'll still get in trouble.
Dan's take is actually pretty ridiculous once you stop and think about it. Most of his stuff is sensationalist and he does little to hide his biased against Apple competitors.