The post makes the assumption that we are going to try this guy in a civilian court. We won't. The Fed will declare him an enemy combatant and they'll do whatever else they want. End of story. They're not going to give him due process. He may end up at Gitmo with all the others.
A CAPTCHA-style test would suck. Have the phone ask one out of any number of random questions any human would know, and wait for an answer before connecting. The tech is already available.
You already covered the NSA wiretap rooms in San Fran. The border guards are there not to remove data from laptops, but for surveillance of it. You know anything going through those telecom trunks are stored for later retrieval for evidence, if deemed necessary.
So yes, there are border guards on the internet. I really wish you would stop saying otherwise. Or at the very least, tell me those NSA taps are now gone.
The Real Mike has a point. It is the job of American government to protect the civil liberties of it's citizens. Failing to do that, then it is our responsibility to do so ourselves. What we happen to be doing at the time is irrelevant.
I think rather than go through all this 'hoop jumping' it may be better to redefine 'bad guys'. I'm not so sure about "So as public WiFi guest accounts idea fails". Do I really have someone that WANTS to break into my router to perform malicious action rather then just mooch off my internet?
I'm sure there are some, but the vast majority are the latter case. But to the MAFIAA one use is no [criminally] different then the other, hence my point. They're the only thing really standing in the way of a general government statement of position that we can leave our wifi open and not be held personally liable for civil misuse.
“Once you build such a system, you have to build the security to ensure that only the good guys use it."
And who are the bad guys again? Oh right, the bad guys are those people that download illegal content through an unsecured wi-fi connection. We certainly can't let those public service connections happen. We can't upset the MAFIAA, can we? Not for something as mundane as emergency services.
"And if Moore wants to avoid a repeat, rather than lashing out mistakenly, and misunderstanding what happened, she should perhaps spend some time actually learning about why people were so upset by SOPA. But, of course, we know that won't happen."
Good. If they don't learn how they were beat, they are easily defeated next time. I see this as the only way to fight back against corporate money. Not just this, but any issue.
Using open source for a business (or not) I believe is a support/training issue. If you're running a business, and you hit a bug or it not running as expected, posting to a forum and waiting for an answer is not a good business practice for most. Kudos to those open source companies
that offer support contracts, but I think the lack of them is the main reason adaptation to open source is as slow as it is.
They would have server migration costs if the servers were not necessary in the first place. I wonder when they will figure out the servers cost more then they are worth?
"Is this really the message the US DOJ and White House want to be giving the day after mass, widespread protests happened concerning a fear that this new law would be used to take down websites?"
I'm sure this was planned and in the works way before blackout day was planned, however this is exactly the message they wanted to send. The DOJ doesn't care what anybody thinks. They just follow orders. If you want to blame someone, it's Biden.
This approach is in direct response to what has always been said..."the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." They want a solution that allows them to whack the moles that they have already learned, will spring up. The reality is they are learning in spite of themselves.
First they learned, 'we need to do this'.
Now they know, 'we need to do this quickly to keep up'.
The next inevitable step is, 'we won't succeed regardless how fast we are'.
Incorrect assumption by the article
The post makes the assumption that we are going to try this guy in a civilian court. We won't. The Fed will declare him an enemy combatant and they'll do whatever else they want. End of story. They're not going to give him due process. He may end up at Gitmo with all the others.
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A CAPTCHA-style test would suck. Have the phone ask one out of any number of random questions any human would know, and wait for an answer before connecting. The tech is already available.
"There are no "border guards" on the internet itself..."
I'm going to cry 'bullshit' on this one, Mike.
You already covered the NSA wiretap rooms in San Fran. The border guards are there not to remove data from laptops, but for surveillance of it. You know anything going through those telecom trunks are stored for later retrieval for evidence, if deemed necessary.
So yes, there are border guards on the internet. I really wish you would stop saying otherwise. Or at the very least, tell me those NSA taps are now gone.
Re: Re:
The Real Mike has a point. It is the job of American government to protect the civil liberties of it's citizens. Failing to do that, then it is our responsibility to do so ourselves. What we happen to be doing at the time is irrelevant.
Never ask a rightsholder...
"Does the usage morally harm the artist?" The answer will always be, yes.
So what else is new?
The Chinese have been spying on us since Nixon. What else is new?
Re: Re: Who are the 'bad guys' again?
I think rather than go through all this 'hoop jumping' it may be better to redefine 'bad guys'. I'm not so sure about "So as public WiFi guest accounts idea fails". Do I really have someone that WANTS to break into my router to perform malicious action rather then just mooch off my internet?
I'm sure there are some, but the vast majority are the latter case. But to the MAFIAA one use is no [criminally] different then the other, hence my point. They're the only thing really standing in the way of a general government statement of position that we can leave our wifi open and not be held personally liable for civil misuse.
Who are the 'bad guys' again?
“Once you build such a system, you have to build the security to ensure that only the good guys use it."
And who are the bad guys again? Oh right, the bad guys are those people that download illegal content through an unsecured wi-fi connection. We certainly can't let those public service connections happen. We can't upset the MAFIAA, can we? Not for something as mundane as emergency services.
Poor trolls
After 15 years, if we account holders can't get Mike to shut up, what chance do the trolls have? Poor trolls...
There is that millions of dollars thing.....Biden could charge it...
Happy Birthday TD!!!
If they don't learn, it's a good thing.
"And if Moore wants to avoid a repeat, rather than lashing out mistakenly, and misunderstanding what happened, she should perhaps spend some time actually learning about why people were so upset by SOPA. But, of course, we know that won't happen."
Good. If they don't learn how they were beat, they are easily defeated next time. I see this as the only way to fight back against corporate money. Not just this, but any issue.
Re: *Mission Accomplished*
I agree with you. The point was to get Megaupload offline however the means, and scare the others. It worked.
Open source for business
Using open source for a business (or not) I believe is a support/training issue. If you're running a business, and you hit a bug or it not running as expected, posting to a forum and waiting for an answer is not a good business practice for most. Kudos to those open source companies
that offer support contracts, but I think the lack of them is the main reason adaptation to open source is as slow as it is.
How much was that migration?!
They would have server migration costs if the servers were not necessary in the first place. I wonder when they will figure out the servers cost more then they are worth?
Re: Re: Re: The industy's assertion isn't wrong...unfortunately
Ding! Ding! Ding! 1 smart point for AC #2
The industy's assertion isn't wrong...unfortunately
"we can be as secret as we want... and we still win."
This is true. Obama signed the thing, after all. Looks like they were right.
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"Is this really the message the US DOJ and White House want to be giving the day after mass, widespread protests happened concerning a fear that this new law would be used to take down websites?"
I'm sure this was planned and in the works way before blackout day was planned, however this is exactly the message they wanted to send. The DOJ doesn't care what anybody thinks. They just follow orders. If you want to blame someone, it's Biden.
He's full of crap
Did you notice that, "I'll put a hold on everything Obama did..."? The president can't put a hold on anything previously passed by congress.
Re: Re: Faster then the speed of internet
You are right of course. I missed a step.
Faster then the speed of internet
This approach is in direct response to what has always been said..."the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." They want a solution that allows them to whack the moles that they have already learned, will spring up. The reality is they are learning in spite of themselves.
First they learned, 'we need to do this'.
Now they know, 'we need to do this quickly to keep up'.
The next inevitable step is, 'we won't succeed regardless how fast we are'.
The Padawans are slow to learn.
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"If there's too many to prosecute, either get more lawyers and judges, or choose your targets more carefully."
Or maybe this is a stupid law that no reasonable person wants to follow and should be repealed...prohibition, anyone?