So we want parents to take responsibility, but do not want to allow them to know what is going on?
This is the opposite of nanny state. This is giving power to parents, not the government. The government isn't saying parents have to do so, just enabling them to do so.
It would be nice to be able to go to the corner store and be able to ask the proprietor whether or not your child was buying cigarettes, not so you could prosecute the proprietor, but so you can be involved in correcting the bad behavior/choices of your child. Your child isn't smoking themselves, just buying them for other children who can't get them so they can make some money.
"There may be sites where the teens have tried to keep information private from their parents. And maybe that's because, say, the parents are anti-gay, and the child is gay."
How about we educate these few parents instead of keeping the rest of them castrated?
"How about realising that the Internet is global and release your content everywhere at the same time."
They can't get over the fact that releasing it Wednesday, it may still be Tuesday somewhere, therefore no one will watch it when they release it Wednesday.
An internet bully. Along with phone bullies, the worst kind as they are the most pusillanimous.
"Christ, are you this stupid are are you just offended that I suggested that your accepting of removal of rights just in case there's a small change of danger makes you a coward? The evidence is in for my assertion, and your stupid attacks on me doesn't change the fact that you did that. The fact that your response seems to be "no I'm a big man! Look at all the scary big man stuff I do!" doesn't really change that."
I never claimed to be Einstein, but I am smart enough to know that I can probably learn something from anyone, including a fool. Even one like you.
You attacked, I responded.
Apparently you are so focused on attacking that you aren't comprehending what I am saying.
I can't see in the post where I am claiming to be a big man doing big man stuff (What is "big man stuff" anyway? Adult activities?). Are you intimidated by a post on the internet? That explains why you think you can scare me with a belligerent post. Grow up and grow a pair.
"No, but you do take the responsibility for posting a woefully incomplete link as defence of the stupid actions of these cops and your blind acceptance of people being aressted for hours "just in case" a voicemail message was a real threat. Surely you could find a better link, or does the presence of all evidence in the case undermine your point?"
Do you know how to google? You should be able to find more info with info already provided. Otherwise, you don't have a right to insult other peoples intelligence on the internet.
Evidently you haven't read my other posts in this thread. Although you claimed to have. That makes you a liar.
You are so smart, find us more info. I already provided more than is being reported. Or did you miss that little tidbit I slipped in? Yes you did as you have already demonstrated that you aren't reading or aren't comprehending. Obviously there is no need for me to add the little bit more that I can that hasn't yet been released as you can't/don't read anyway.
"I don't know about you, but I'd hope that the police at least understood the nature of the call before arresting people."
I guess they should investigate the caller first just in case it is a prank call or someone with a grudge...
Contact all known friends and family of caller and suspect to find out if they had been in a relationship and if caller had access to suspects phone etc...
Five minutes or less for a good cop, eh?
"That's because I'm not coward and prefer innocent people to retain their freedom until there's evidence to prove otherwise."
"Ooh goody for you. Yes, the fact that I recognise the theme tune I remember from my school days in the early 90s means I stay indoors all the time. You're an idiot. Well done with all your camping, big man. Don't you have a mountain to climb instead of being stupid on the internet?"
Don't you little people camp?
See that molehill? Make a mountain out of it why don't you. Then take a hike.
I don't recall saying anything about camping either. Where did you learn to read? Camping? Big man? Big man stuff? Do you speak English or is it a second language and we are losing something in the translation? You should mention that before being so verbose.
"OK, maybe you're not a coward. Authoritarian who accepts any excuse for the police to strip rights from people then?"
I don't call cops. I don't like cops. I do respect most people though and that includes the job that cops have to do.
You are the one who wants to strip many peoples rights in order to save a pedophile. Another fucking hypocrite. It feels like I am at a bar again and all the assholes want to fight me to prove something. I never have figured out what that something was...
"What the fuck are you blathering about now? You're clearly too stupid to understand what I'm actually saying, so we might as well give up here."
Finally!
Was getting tiresome reading all your insults. Isn't that what people resort to when they don't have a real argument? Whoever can answer this, I'm just a dumb hick asking a simple question, so please spare the circumlocutory for this simple mind. Thank-you!
"I understand that the word "b-ball" could possibly be misheard as "people" and the receptionist probably did the right thing by notifying law enforcement, but it still seems as though this could all have been sorted out in a five minute discussion."
Yes the link is incomplete. I take full responsibility for the reporting of the Ottawa Citizen and the info released by the Bancroft OPP(Ontario Provincial Police) and SIU(Special Investigations Unit).
Some of us exercise and stay in shape. While you might recognize a theme song from tv, I wouldn't. While you were watching fresh prince, I was out hiking through the bush around Algonquin Park(scared shitless the whole time too! Lions, Moose and Bears. Oh my! That's why I still do it).
I also walk around the city at night alone. Still wounded from being hit by a car to boot!
Practice what you preach and stick to what you know. Leave the on-line psycho-analysis to wally.
"If you think that this provides any further explanation or investigation, I think you're part of the problem. The other example you're giving is completely irrelevant to this case (and low on details - why was he being arrested?), and if you think that such overreaction is required to what was obviously a complete misunderstanding, I feel rather sorry for the constant state of fear you must spend your life living."
I lived on a farm and worked construction building houses for years. I ain't runnin' from nobody.
Ain't nobody runnin' from me. That's the way it's supposed to be.
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Isn't that what this bill is about?
"... reveal that personal information to parents if requested."
I need sleep as I seem to be reading everything backwards.
Good night and enjoy the week-end!
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This is the opposite of nanny state. This is giving power to parents, not the government. The government isn't saying parents have to do so, just enabling them to do so.
It would be nice to be able to go to the corner store and be able to ask the proprietor whether or not your child was buying cigarettes, not so you could prosecute the proprietor, but so you can be involved in correcting the bad behavior/choices of your child. Your child isn't smoking themselves, just buying them for other children who can't get them so they can make some money.
"There may be sites where the teens have tried to keep information private from their parents. And maybe that's because, say, the parents are anti-gay, and the child is gay."
How about we educate these few parents instead of keeping the rest of them castrated?
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I'd like mine to be smudge-less.
MS recently buy a monitor screen wipes company?
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Was he a bright young man obviously with a future in front of him or was he facing a prison sentence and therefore a criminal?
Is prison the new USA conscription?
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They can't get over the fact that releasing it Wednesday, it may still be Tuesday somewhere, therefore no one will watch it when they release it Wednesday.
Welcome to Imaginary Property land.
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Kickstarter
This must be made into a movie. This could be the most entertaining movie ever created.
I'm sure it would turn into the highest profit earning movie ever within a week. Even at a cost to make at $100 000 000.
Ozzy would probably allow Crazy train as title and theme song.
ALL ABOARD. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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"But it's kind of hard to teach a company a lesson about DRM hurting paying customers when it already has their money."
Seems harder to teach paying customers not to give their money to these types of companies.
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Wasn't Steele a divorce lawyer?
Alan Mony sounds like a pretenda made up name from alimony.
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"Christ, are you this stupid are are you just offended that I suggested that your accepting of removal of rights just in case there's a small change of danger makes you a coward? The evidence is in for my assertion, and your stupid attacks on me doesn't change the fact that you did that. The fact that your response seems to be "no I'm a big man! Look at all the scary big man stuff I do!" doesn't really change that."
I never claimed to be Einstein, but I am smart enough to know that I can probably learn something from anyone, including a fool. Even one like you.
You attacked, I responded.
Apparently you are so focused on attacking that you aren't comprehending what I am saying.
I can't see in the post where I am claiming to be a big man doing big man stuff (What is "big man stuff" anyway? Adult activities?). Are you intimidated by a post on the internet? That explains why you think you can scare me with a belligerent post. Grow up and grow a pair.
"No, but you do take the responsibility for posting a woefully incomplete link as defence of the stupid actions of these cops and your blind acceptance of people being aressted for hours "just in case" a voicemail message was a real threat. Surely you could find a better link, or does the presence of all evidence in the case undermine your point?"
Do you know how to google? You should be able to find more info with info already provided. Otherwise, you don't have a right to insult other peoples intelligence on the internet.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2013/03/05/ottawa-opp-attempted-murder-charg e-bancroft-siu-shots-fired.html
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/03/02/siu_called_after_sh ots_fired_in_bancroft_home.html
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/siu-called-in-after-shots-fired-in-banc roft-home-1.1178836
http://www.bancroftthisweek.com/2013/03/02/opp-officer-assaulted-shots-fired
Four more links. Am I hiding anything?
My point? "The case I cited was just to demonstrate the danger involved, even when the suspect seems to be cooperating."
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/18153122181/misheard-will-smith-lyrics-res ults-arrest-student-district-wide-lockdown.shtml#c819
Evidently you haven't read my other posts in this thread. Although you claimed to have. That makes you a liar.
You are so smart, find us more info. I already provided more than is being reported. Or did you miss that little tidbit I slipped in? Yes you did as you have already demonstrated that you aren't reading or aren't comprehending. Obviously there is no need for me to add the little bit more that I can that hasn't yet been released as you can't/don't read anyway.
"I don't know about you, but I'd hope that the police at least understood the nature of the call before arresting people."
I guess they should investigate the caller first just in case it is a prank call or someone with a grudge...
Contact all known friends and family of caller and suspect to find out if they had been in a relationship and if caller had access to suspects phone etc...
Five minutes or less for a good cop, eh?
"That's because I'm not coward and prefer innocent people to retain their freedom until there's evidence to prove otherwise."
Unless *shudder* there is a possibility of violence *shudder*. Then you want to strip away innocent peoples rights because of a few bad apples to possibly save one pedophile from some violence. I like my solution better than yours.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130227/12295722141/google-facebook-twitter-ordered-to-de lete-photos-uk-law-enforcement.shtml#c615
"Ooh goody for you. Yes, the fact that I recognise the theme tune I remember from my school days in the early 90s means I stay indoors all the time. You're an idiot. Well done with all your camping, big man. Don't you have a mountain to climb instead of being stupid on the internet?"
Don't you little people camp?
See that molehill? Make a mountain out of it why don't you. Then take a hike.
I don't recall saying anything about camping either. Where did you learn to read? Camping? Big man? Big man stuff? Do you speak English or is it a second language and we are losing something in the translation? You should mention that before being so verbose.
"OK, maybe you're not a coward. Authoritarian who accepts any excuse for the police to strip rights from people then?"
I don't call cops. I don't like cops. I do respect most people though and that includes the job that cops have to do.
You are the one who wants to strip many peoples rights in order to save a pedophile. Another fucking hypocrite. It feels like I am at a bar again and all the assholes want to fight me to prove something. I never have figured out what that something was...
"What the fuck are you blathering about now? You're clearly too stupid to understand what I'm actually saying, so we might as well give up here."
Finally!
Was getting tiresome reading all your insults. Isn't that what people resort to when they don't have a real argument? Whoever can answer this, I'm just a dumb hick asking a simple question, so please spare the circumlocutory for this simple mind. Thank-you!
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Where else does it occur?
Ever hear of a pirate truck?
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If she did the right thing, are the cops supposed to just believe what suspect says and leave?
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/18153122181/misheard-will-smith-lyrics-results-ar rest-student-district-wide-lockdown.shtml#c595
Yes, I am scared shitless. Please don't hurt me.
Yes the link is incomplete. I take full responsibility for the reporting of the Ottawa Citizen and the info released by the Bancroft OPP(Ontario Provincial Police) and SIU(Special Investigations Unit).
IF you believe she did the right thing, calling the Police because of a recorded message playing a theme song from tv, to quote you "Sorry, but that's shitting yourself in constant fear." [I am assuming there is also accompanying music] (I was of the impression whoever called the cops thought it was the person talking and did not realize it was voice-mail.)
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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/18153122181/misheard-will-smith-lyrics- results-arrest-student-district-wide-lockdown.shtml#c819
Some of us exercise and stay in shape. While you might recognize a theme song from tv, I wouldn't. While you were watching fresh prince, I was out hiking through the bush around Algonquin Park(scared shitless the whole time too! Lions, Moose and Bears. Oh my! That's why I still do it).
I also walk around the city at night alone. Still wounded from being hit by a car to boot!
Practice what you preach and stick to what you know. Leave the on-line psycho-analysis to wally.
P.S. You are more than welcome to come here to my house and defend pedophiles actions and rights.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130227/12295722141/google-facebook-twitter-ordered-to-d elete-photos-uk-law-enforcement.shtml#c615
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I lived on a farm and worked construction building houses for years. I ain't runnin' from nobody.
Ain't nobody runnin' from me. That's the way it's supposed to be.
See my above comments.
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Hilarious!
I'll bet blues clock is still flashing.
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Well, it will need to be phased out.
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RIAA is working on it.
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