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<title>Wargames</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/03160923172/chinese-hacks-google-database-surveillance-targets-highlight-how-dumb-technology-backdoors-are.shtml#c286</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[RyanNerd]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:24:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone who was alive and watched "hacking" movies during the 80's knows that there is always a back door and that this will prevent WWIII.<br />
<br />
"Do you want to play a game?"]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: It funny to read all of this</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130519/18102623141/so-its-come-to-this-seven-high-school-students-arrested-throwing-water-balloons.shtml#c1991</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niall]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:20:13 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[You were actually being quite reasonable until that last unnecessary dig.<br />
<br />
We could just as equally say "calling the cops and making harmless fun an arrestable offence is just the kind of overreach that content controllors and copywrong maximalists and patent trolls buy laws for".]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Is there really a market for paid-for fan fiction?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c158</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:20:12 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c158</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["I gotta ask, is there really a market for paid-for fan fiction? I'm not really interested in fan-fiction myself, so maybe I just don't have the right perspective."<br />
<br />
Quite frankly, a good 3/4 of Star Trek novels are just fanfic with the "naughty bits" expunged.<br />
Yet they sell.<br />
<br />
(Star Wars has a better track record of using profesional authors and maintaining continuity.)]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Zero tolerance is the result of the 60's not cured by it</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130519/18102623141/so-its-come-to-this-seven-high-school-students-arrested-throwing-water-balloons.shtml#c1982</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niall]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:17:15 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130519/18102623141/so-its-come-to-this-seven-high-school-students-arrested-throwing-water-balloons.shtml#c1982</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Oh, and Conservative "Respect my authoritah!" attitudes are so much better. Along with turning a blind eye on any bullying of anyone darker than a light sun-tan, of anyone who isn't a jock, of anyone who isn't hetero-male-overcompensating, of anyone 'different'. Because the world was so much a better place 30-60 years ago, and nothing's improved.<br />
<br />
Yes people go too far with political correctness. But there is still so far to go. It's just getting the balance right.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Odd</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c154</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:15:29 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c154</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["Amazon is paying for the rights to use the characters, and then turning around and taking ownership of the resulting works. Essentially, they are just middle-manning to clear rights to use the characters, at an insanely high cost to the writer."<br />
<br />
As usual, ass with no brain, you're wrong.<br />
The writers are writing the stories simnply for the love of the series/movie, without thought of profit (as hard as it is for a copyright maximalist like you to believe).<br />
Amazon has simply come up with a way for the studios and writers to make money!<br />
<br />
"Perhaps they are a facilitator for the moment, but that will likely turn to greed if one of the works gets developed into an actual TV episode or movie."<br />
<br />
The licensors (tv/movie studios) control the rights, so even if one of these fanfic stories prove good enough to adapt into an episode or film, the studio, not Amazon makes the money on it.<br />
Amazon only makes money on copies of the stories sold through it.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Another monopoly?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c152</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Watson]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:14:46 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c152</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Presumably if Amazon become the licence holder for written works derived from certain TV shows, then they'll spend most of their time taking legal action against anyone who publishes fan fiction for free online based on those same TV shows (i.e. if you don't publish it through Amazon - the copyright holder - then you'll be sued). <br />
<br />
While existing copyright holders "don't mind [free fan fiction] (with a few notable exceptions) as long as nothing is being sold" I suspect Amazon will.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Intent versus implementation</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130506/10364522962/eric-schmidt-still-fan-figuring-out-way-to-erase-past.shtml#c348</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gert-Jan]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:12:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I think there is a lot of good to say about the desire to have the history fade away and/or to have the option as a user to delete past events about that user.<br />
<br />
The challenge is to transform this desire to workable procedures and laws. You don't necessarily need a "right to be forgotten" for a basic implementation of this. However, you do need cooperation of commercial and noncommercial parties that collect or buy your information, with or without laws to facilitate it.<br />
<br />
Without laws, you need alternative incentives for these commercial and noncommercial parties. Reputation (naming &amp; shaming) can work for big brands.<br />
<br />
Such initiative, even with big leaking holes and only covering (say) 70%, would be a big improvement over the current situation. It would also provide a learnings how to further improvement.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Odd</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 05:12:14 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c147</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Of course, if Amazon gains the rights to the characters, sure they can publish fanfics...<br />
<br />
And then they can have their own team of authors write anything they want utilizing those characters.  They could theoretically spin the entire control of that specific universe.<br />
<br />
They get the rights to use X-Files characters.  They publish fanfics.  Two months later they drop out 50 full sized X-Files novels.  Profit (provided X-Files are still relevant, but replace with, uhhh, anything else).]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: at least the videos exist still</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/17321623162/released-video-silva-beating-shows-his-last-moments-video-actual-beating-still-missing.shtml#c777</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:58:01 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/17321623162/released-video-silva-beating-shows-his-last-moments-video-actual-beating-still-missing.shtml#c777</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><i>the sherriff says he's seen them.</i></blockquote><br />
I don't think you've been paying close attention.<br />
<br />
Sheriff Youngblood was referring to the black-and-white security video taken by a camera near the corner of Palm Drive and Flower Street in East Bakersfield.<br />
<br />
That video has already been published. You can view that video, among other places, embedded in the <i>KERO 23ABC News</i> story,]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Just like a book deal, but worse</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c136</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:57:56 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c136</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["sounds like a steal alright, but most certainly  not in favor of the writer."<br />
<br />
Not really. It's better than the offer they currently have (zero income, and if you try you'll probably be shut down and/or sued). Writers always have the option of altering the story to remove references to other works if they wish to publish without this protection for higher cuts. True, the cut could be higher, but we don't know how much of that 65% is being demanded by the copyright holders or how much behind the scenes work is actually involved to guarantee compliance (all work done on the author's behalf for no up front charge).<br />
<br />
I agree with your second point, but what's the alternative, really? Without this move, fan fic languishes in an area where the author can't profit, and any attempt to shut down freebies is bound to backfire on the copyright holders in some way.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Is there really a market for paid-for fan fiction?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c127</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:49:47 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c127</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[It will be interesting to see how this goes, but I'd say it's down to quality. The terms seem to indicate that the stories will need to adhere to certain rules, and as they're published by Amazon they will possibly have some form of editorial oversight.<br />
<br />
So, rather than "pure" fan fiction, you'll get something that's more like a standard authorised novel. That is, you'll probably get something approaching a novel based on the universe you'd buy in the shops anyway, with the advantage of ideas coming from random authors rather than pre-approved commissioned authors who may or may not have any passion for the original material. It may also be more likely for a current show to take the direction suggested by fan fiction if it's officially licensed and published - giving fans a way to direct the show in the way they prefer.<br />
<br />
So, if the quality of the paid work is higher, or even leads to new material in the canonical world of the original then it's definitely better than the free stuff. If not, well, there's nothing that can stop true fans from writing and sharing what they wish.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Odd</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c105</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:47:59 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I actually agree here.<br />
<br />
Amazon isn't doing anyone any favours, save, perhaps, minimizing the risk of a lawsuit.<br />
<br />
Amazon's "service" would be redundant if there were clear exceptions for derivative works in copyright.<br />
<br />
Alas, there aren't, so we must continue to pretend that art and science must be created in a vacuum to be of any value.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Necessity is the mother of invention</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130510/00083123031/cool-new-platform-supporting-artists-patreon-jack-conte.shtml#c116</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:46:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Segways are not indispensable nor necessary, they are a nice gimmick and a good example of gyro stabilisation but not useful. Try again.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: paywall</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lurk-a-lot]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:44:44 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130510/00083123031/cool-new-platform-supporting-artists-patreon-jack-conte.shtml#c100</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Actually, I first heard of patreon via a youtube subscription - get that? An artist that was already producing video content for free that was also asking his subscribers if they wanted to support his efforts.<br />
<br />
So:<br />
1. Not a paywall.<br />
2. I personally already like his content.<br />
<br />
... which makes you wrong on all of your points.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Just like a book deal, but worse</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c104</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[That One Guy]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:37:19 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[So a fanfic writer basically sells away the rights to their creation for a max of a 35% cut of the profits, doesn't get any advance or anything like that, and amazon gets both copyright and the lion's share of the profits... sounds like a steal alright, but most certainly <b>not</b> in favor of the writer.<br />
<br />
Moreover, and perhaps more worrisome, I can easily see the 'the only fair use is paid use' lot using this to attack derivative works where the character's/settings <i>aren't</i> licensed, by insisting that now a system is in place where you <i>can</i> pay to use the characters and settings in a derivative work, that means you <i>have</i> to do so, otherwise you're 'stealing from the original writer(s)'.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Been done before.</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:35:57 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Flint" rel="nofollow">Eric Flint</a>  pioneered this idea.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:35:56 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c91</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Well, you do have a clear choice ultimately. Amazon still allow you to self publish through them without demanding exclusivity or ownership. However, they can't allow you to do this with straight up fan fiction due to legal liability. So, you can accept their terms and publish fan fiction with the relevant restrictions in return for the name recognition and legal status that this gives you. Or, you can do a 50 Shades and rewrite your story to remove the references to copyrighted characters and publish freely with rights retained. This is just one avenue that Amazon are offering, not an "accept these terms or don't get published" that the legacy guys offered.<br />
<br />
I'd also say that this setup could be due to licensing rather than a deliberate move by Amazon. That is, rather than allow a blanket licence for every author, the rights holders are only willing to grant permission to a book solely owned and published by Amazon Publishing.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Is there really a market for paid-for fan fiction?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c85</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:33:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[depends on the original work- the Star Wars EU isn't much more than fanfiction where the author has said that it actually happened in the canonical universe.<br />
<br />
as for if there would be a market, there might actually be one- some fanfiction is arguably just as good as original works, with a couple arguably reaching the level of basically being original works. would I pay for fanfiction? if it was by an author I knew was sufficiently good. (however, there is a LOT of fanfiction that wouldn't be worth it.)]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Odd</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c74</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:28:51 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/11301723178/amazon-wants-to-sell-fan-fiction-with-it-originator-fanfic-author-all-sharing-profits.shtml#c74</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["Not a lot of innovation here."<br />
<br />
Well, if you ignore all the innovation, of course there's none. Name one other service doing this for authors at the moment.<br />
<br />
"Yet another success story where a modern company becomes a middleman."<br />
<br />
As opposed to who? Publishers? Retailers? Half the people you try to defend are also middlemen. Being a middleman is essentially what Amazon do - and they're successful because they're very good at it.<br />
<br />
"will likely turn to greed if one of the works gets developed into an actual TV episode or movie"<br />
<br />
Because no book is ever successful otherwise.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: paywall</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 04:28:43 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["It reads more like a failwall..."<br />
<br />
It's spelled fail <b>whale</b>.<br />
<br />
Dude. Pay attention.]]></content:encoded>
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