http://www.techdirt.com/ Easily digestible tech news.... http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/01054720744/hollywood-accounting-how-19-million-movie-makes-150-million-still-isnt-profitable.shtml#c1894 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:50:43 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/01054720744/hollywood-accounting-how-19-million-movie-makes-150-million-still-isnt-profitable.shtml#c1894 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/17254423102/eric-holder-claims-terrorists-are-involved-ip-theft.shtml#c1570 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:48:28 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/17254423102/eric-holder-claims-terrorists-are-involved-ip-theft.shtml#c1570
What about the fact that it causes harm to the victim? What about the interests of society?

What about non-consensual acts that do not cause physical harm to the victim? Are they somehow not rape?

And, what about when society decides that the rape doesn't harm their interests? Does this make it better?

The act doesn't need to physically harm the victim to be rape. It does not need social disapproval to be rape.

So, yes, the main evil is that it is done against the victim's will.

I'm saying this less to rebuke your statements, and more because these things simply need to be said. I didn't say them, and that was wrong of me.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/000324/1149204.shtml#c21315 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:46:59 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/000324/1149204.shtml#c21315 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/15445423110/framework-copyright-reform.shtml#c1813 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:31:53 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/15445423110/framework-copyright-reform.shtml#c1813 For example an author writes a book. The book is stolen and a copy is sold to a publisher. The copy is not stolen property and subsequent copies would also not be stolen property. So the author's only recourse would be against the original thief.

It's important to note that, if this book weren't covered by copyright for whatever reason, that doesn't mean there aren't other ways to go after the thief and publisher. Trade secrets and privacy rights are examples.

Had copyright never existed, it's a pretty sure bet that the scenario you describe would have been covered by some other set of laws. (Since copyright is essentially a financial right, I'd guess it would be subsumed under trade secrets laws.) So, copyright laws aren't necessary to protect this particular right.

Which makes it all the more doubtful that this particular right is what the Founders were considering.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c810 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:09:54 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c810 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c75 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:58:06 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c75 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c56 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:53:03 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c56
A: Infringement is not theft. There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with infringement.

B: IP law, like prohibition, is what enables terrorists to use infringing content to fund themselves. IP law is the basis of how these terrorists are being funded and so IP law is responsible.

Making infringement even harder for the average person will do little to make it harder for these terrorist organizations who can now make more money off of it by selling it at an even higher price. See, for example, the war on drugs. and running an infringement cartel and getting away with it is a thousand times easier than doing the same with a drug cartel. So I say we just abolish IP law.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/07262023094/restaurant-facebook-goes-nuclear-facebook-over-reviews-gordon-ramsay-owner-cry-hack.shtml#c1170 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:49:02 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/07262023094/restaurant-facebook-goes-nuclear-facebook-over-reviews-gordon-ramsay-owner-cry-hack.shtml#c1170 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c805 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:03:07 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c805
You're one to talk about "red herrings" when you challenged Glyn Moody's life in China (or alleged lack thereof).

And wow, "obvious stupidity"? I guess Jews who wanted to challenge the Nazi Party should've just stayed and showed themselves? ALbert Einstein should never have left Germany, and Anne Frank should have just surrendered?

Oh, by the way - John Steele uses VPNs too. I guess he's obviously stupid too, but the rest of us already knew that.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c36 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:54:29 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c36 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c790 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:48:10 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c790 common sense.

Seriously, you're attacking people who help others defend against extortionists, stop and think about that for a moment, and ask yourself if you're really on the right side of this argument.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c32 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:41:53 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c32 not getting it. It comes to that simple thing, if I steal a bunch of stuff, I can sell it for a lot less than retail and still make a profit, because I didn't have to pay to make it.

Not having to pay for things, but still charging something for them is the basics of profit. It's how criminals have done it since the start of time, and the virtual criminals are doing to today.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c767 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:39:35 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c767 Your problem is that you thought organizing against the troll extortion and blackmailing machine was something that would never happen

Where do you get that from? Seriously, stop ranting, I didn't say anything like that.

Why is pointing out the obvious silliness of a group hiding it's identity suddenly lead to this? In for a penny, in for a pound? Is this a virtual scarlet letter, where if you dare to say anything at all you are immediately blamed for all the supposed sins of the opposition?

A---mazin'!]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c745 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:36:05 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c745 logic grenades into the discussion.

I think it creates a credibility gap.]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c735 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:34:07 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c735 You'd rather complain about Otis Wright than John Steele;

You are trying to create a choice where one is not needed to be made. Complaining about one does not mean I am not also going to complain about the other. Since this isn't a John Steele or Prenda thread, I don't tend to talk about them here.

Do you have any other wild red herrings you want to throw in to try to cover up for the obvious stupidity of a group picking a fight against copyright trolls by first hiding?]]> http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c161 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:24:06 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c161 http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c147 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:21:50 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c147 http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c132 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:20:31 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130518/00045923138/awesome-stuff-cool-product-designs.shtml#c132 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/05513523093/suburban-express-goes-double-nothing-their-aggressive-behavior.shtml#c106 Sun, 19 May 2013 18:18:25 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/05513523093/suburban-express-goes-double-nothing-their-aggressive-behavior.shtml#c106 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130511/03220823047/mpaa-freaks-out-insists-that-having-to-consider-fair-use-before-filing-dmca-takedown-would-be-crazy.shtml#c1227 Sun, 19 May 2013 17:34:54 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130511/03220823047/mpaa-freaks-out-insists-that-having-to-consider-fair-use-before-filing-dmca-takedown-would-be-crazy.shtml#c1227 The MPAA is jealous of Cheney?

They're not quite that overreaching. After all, Cheney shot a guy in the face, and that guy later apologized to Cheney for it. Seriously.]]>