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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:32:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[What copyrights are being weakened, buskahosa?<br />
<br />
Just because it'll allow me to use MY property that *I* legally purchased the way *I* want to and not the way *THEY* want me to doesn't mean that it weakens copyright.<br />
<br />
If I buy a cellphone, a PS3, or a 3DS right now, they are region/service locked and breaking that lock is against the law, even if I legally purchase a game/service from another region/service provider so that I can play/use the game/service.<br />
<br />
I'm pretty sure that's wrong.<br />
<br />
Or did you miss the case where the Supreme Court slapped down the textbook publisher and said first sale doctrine trumps your copyright?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Don't do this for us, please</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/18345423136/doj-dept-education-to-colleges-start-restricting-free-speech-campus-kiss-your-federal-funding-goodbye.shtml#c1089</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[TaCktiX]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:31:17 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/18345423136/doj-dept-education-to-colleges-start-restricting-free-speech-campus-kiss-your-federal-funding-goodbye.shtml#c1089</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[I wish I had gone to that college.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130521/12175523157/nyc-says-renting-out-your-place-via-airbnb-is-running-illegal-hotel.shtml#c16</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:30:31 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130521/12175523157/nyc-says-renting-out-your-place-via-airbnb-is-running-illegal-hotel.shtml#c16</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[What a stupid blogger this is nothing new zoning laws for or against house/room rental have been around for ages. If you want to rent you property you must check the local laws not doing so is just plain STUPID, like the Blogger who wrote this...article..lol]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Applegate]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:30:17 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[It will allow you to uninstall or otherwise disable the spyware placed on the phone by your provider, the manufacturer...  It will allow you to move your phone to a different carrier.<br />
<br />
Allowing you to control the device you paid for is utterly ridiculous.<br />
<br />
See every market is trying to prevent you from owning what you buy and pay for.<br />
<br />
If I by a CD I can resell it.  I buy digital music I can't.  Same exact music different format.  That is why to this day I refuse to buy digital copies of music or movies.<br />
<br />
If you root your phone you might uninstall all their tracking software.  You might even put that phone on a different carrier, or  resell it.  We can't have any of that, those are lost sales.  Lost sales of devices, loss sales of your personal information and loss of you as a carrier customer.<br />
<br />
Remember you as a lowly customer are to have no rights.  It is your responsibility to give over all your hard earned income for nothing substantial in return.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased)]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:29:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Copyright (US version) - To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130521/12175523157/nyc-says-renting-out-your-place-via-airbnb-is-running-illegal-hotel.shtml#c12</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:28:46 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130521/12175523157/nyc-says-renting-out-your-place-via-airbnb-is-running-illegal-hotel.shtml#c12</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Do you mean to tell me that a law designed and intended for one thing is being misused for something entirely different? In America? You must jest, sir. Politicians, lawmakers, lobbying groups and corporations have only our best interest at mind and nothing else. They would <i>never</i> try to use laws in unintended ways.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:28:15 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[must be great on cookies...]]></content:encoded>
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<title>If I don't own what I buy...</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[tawsenior]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:27:51 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[then I shouldn't have to pay to get it fixed when it breaks. I should just pay a monthly lease and the vendor can replace my game disk / cell phone / vcr / gamebox / etc when I have a problem with it.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[UPDATE:<br />
<a href='https://www.facebook.com/Nutella?ref=ts&amp;fref=ts#' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/Nutella?ref=ts&amp;fref=ts#</a><br />
They changed their mind]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dreddsnik]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:52 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[" I'm not able to view video at work. Did she interfere with the arrest? If not, and no laws were broken, she's legally permitted to be as much a bitch and verbal antagonist as she wants. "<br />
<br />
 No, she didn't. But it is pretty clear the cops were ignoring her. Apparently that wasn't the reaction the videographer wanted, so she began to pester them. Yes, Yes she didn't break the law but it seems pretty clear that her intent was to get as close to the line as possible without going over in order to get arrested. We hate it when music and movie industry lawyers game the system for personal profit. This person seems to be doing the same thing. that only makes it harder for those who legitimated just want a record of the event that won't disappear.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:25 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Pah!  You have no problem with the DMCA?<br />
<br />
How about all the legitimate Fair Uses that get taken down daily?  How about the fact that the DMCA doesn't allow me to buy a phone from Sprint, then, when my contract runs out, run it on, let's say Straight Talk for how I want because it's locked onto Sprint.<br />
<br />
There's nothing about copyright in that, buskahosa.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:13 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c669</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Common discussion topic from an Ethics and Computing course for a Comp Sci major: <br />
<br />
-You are using a software created by Vendor1 that generates large amounts of encrypted data files with your content.  <br />
-Vendor1 stops supporting this version of the software package, wanting you to purchase a new version.  <br />
-You instead decide that Vendor2's software offering is now better for you.<br />
-Vendor2's software will not read the data from Vendor1's encrypted files.<br />
-Vendor1 will not assist in extracting your data.<br />
<br />
Back before the DMCA, it was ruled LEGAL in multiple cases to reverse engineer in order to ensure compatibility, data recovery, etc...  This was in the early days of computing with attempted vendor lock in.<br />
<br />
Under the current DMCA, if you attempt to write a script to circumvent the encryption in order to extract your own data into a new format, you would run afoul of the current anti-circumvention laws in an attempt to retrieve your own data.  The crime ... wait for it ... copyright violation.  Do you honestly not see the irony in this situation?<br />
<br />
Prosecution would depend only on how vindictive Vendor1 is feeling that day.<br />
<br />
How would you solve this common problem to software developers?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Put up or shut up.</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keroberos]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:07 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[No, I think I've got your point pegged. Your masters aren't concerned about infringing or non-infringing. They're concerned about loss of control. Which is what this bill does--puts the control over peoples' legally purchased items back into their hands and not in the rights-holders'.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheogorath]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:24:41 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Oh, gee, I don't know, Old Mugwump. Maybe because of the huge cost for the defendant of even meritless cases?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Apparently the Lt.Col. has never served...</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/13573923121/retired-lt-col-violent-media-has-bred-generation-killers.shtml#c1030</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[roderick]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:23:50 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/13573923121/retired-lt-col-violent-media-has-bred-generation-killers.shtml#c1030</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["Apparently the Lt.Col. has never served in the combat MOS's."<br />
<br />
Grossman was an Army Ranger. His bio is not that difficult to find.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: use in commerce`</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/01450023148/makers-nutella-force-fan-who-created-world-nutella-day-to-shut-it-down.shtml#c431</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ockham's Stubble]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:23:41 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/01450023148/makers-nutella-force-fan-who-created-world-nutella-day-to-shut-it-down.shtml#c431</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[If she had advertising supporting the site... that could qualify.<br />
<br />
Great, now you have me rationalizing on behalf of lawyers.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:23:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[How so?<br />
<br />
By making it LEGAL to take your stuff and make it work the way you want it to so you can use it for legitimate stuff?<br />
<br />
Like say, if I wanted to Jailbreak a Nintendo 3DS so I could import Japanese games, how is that taking rights away from Nintendo?]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenichi tanaka]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:21:26 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[These police officers were doing their jobs. It's the hooligans who were filming these police officers who should have the book thrown at them by the judge for antagonizing these officers from doing their jobs.<br />
<br />
And, despite what you may want to believe, police officers have been doing random sobriety tests for years, even before this whole mess started regarding videotaping police officers while they are doing their jobs.<br />
<br />
I find it totally disingenuous that everyone is complaining about these cops doing their job and yet if they weren't doing their jobs, everyone would be complaining about "where are the police when these crimes are being committed"?<br />
<br />
It's funny how too many Americans are so concerned with filming these police officers while they are doing their job and these same Americans seem to be wearing their morals and ethics on their sleeves so that when the police aren't doing their jobs they make a 180 degree turn and ask "where are the police".<br />
<br />
Everytime I read about police arresting someone for videotaping them in public, I always notice how the police officers largely ignore these citizens who are videotaping them until these same citizens decide to take it upon themselves to approach these officers.<br />
<br />
Are these people stupid? You're going to approach an armed officer of the law while they are trying to lock down a crime scene or while they are trying to do their job and you want to interfere with them?<br />
<br />
These are the same citizens who would stand out in the middle of the freeway, hoping that some idiot in a semi truck will turn their vehicle away at the last minute.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Rhodes]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:20:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'll spell it out for you:<br />
<br />
* Copyright holders have many legal rights. <br />
* This does not imply that <i>every</i> legal right they have is related to copyright.<br />
* Previously, they had a legal right to prevent me from modifying my own property, even in situations where no copyright violation occurred.  <br />
* If this legislation passes, they will no longer have that right.  <br />
* The removal of that specific legal right has nothing to do with their legal copyrights, which are still in full force.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:19:46 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c636</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["" Under the proposed change, copyright holders would not have a claim against those that bypass access controls to engage in noninfringing uses.""<br />
<br />
If someone engages in noninfringing use then they are not breeching the law and as such a non infringing use would not be subjected to face action against a copyright holder as there would no breech of copyright for which a copyright holder would not be able to take action as no breech of copyright has occured.<br />
<br />
"" Thus, copyright holders would have LESS rights than they currently do.""<br />
<br />
You make it seem that copyright holders should have the right to take action against something that is non infringing and not in any way breeching copyright. Well if a copyright holder does not own the copyright to something then they have no right to take action against something that they don't own the copyright too. What you want is for the copyright holder not only to control what they own the copyright too but also to control the use of something that they do not own the copyright too also.]]></content:encoded>
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