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<title>Re: Re: @&quot;the public do not respect copyright.&quot;</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c114</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zakida Paul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:36:28 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[There you go again with mass assumptions that anyone who is anti copyright is a pirate.  I probably spend more on content than you, sonny.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/19133923200/copyright-patent-its-all-same-to-worlds-third-largest-news-agency.shtml#c733</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:35:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[It's all the same to me too. It's all rubbish that needs to be thrown out.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: @&quot;the public do not respect copyright.&quot;</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c101</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheLastCzarnian]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:34:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm almost 44. Do I get to be one of the "kids" too?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>CLARIFICATION OF POST</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/17515223193/riaa-copyright-reform-we-need-is-to-make-everyone-else-copyright-cops.shtml#c1167</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[That One Guy]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:31:28 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/17515223193/riaa-copyright-reform-we-need-is-to-make-everyone-else-copyright-cops.shtml#c1167</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Judging by the number of comments similar to yours, it looks like I should have been clearer. <br />
<br />
Since the reason for the 'shoot first, ask questions later' plan of taking everything down 'just in case would' be to avoid potential lawsuits, it would also only <i>apply to those groups(like the *AA's) that have proven to be lawsuit happy, and <b>not independents.</b></i><br />
<br />
So *AA music/movie trailers/reviews? Gone. <br />
Independent music/movie trailers/review? Still up.<br />
<br />
Sorry for the confusion, should have been more clear I guess.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Egging each other on</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/21222323165/another-ca-cop-thinks-cell-phone-might-be-dangerous-weapon.shtml#c667</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rekrul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:27:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<b>These cops sound like they're egging each other on</b>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: @&quot;the public do not respect copyright.&quot;</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c88</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Teach]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:26:04 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[The phrase "common law" has a specific meaning, OOTB2: <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law</a><br />
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I don't think it means what you vaguely imply that it means. <br />
<br />
Copyright isn't based on precedent, it's statute based. That kind of makes it "not common law".]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: It doesn't have to be DMCA</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c81</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:25:36 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Indeed.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/18265123163/reporters-find-exposed-personal-data-via-google-threatened-with-cfaa-charges.shtml#c859</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[nasch]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:23:37 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/18265123163/reporters-find-exposed-personal-data-via-google-threatened-with-cfaa-charges.shtml#c859</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't get it. Earlier you agreed that robots.txt is not a security measure. Now you're saying that Google should help with security related to robots.txt.  It cant be both!]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Who's on first?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/10542823205/another-court-tells-prenda-to-pay-up-attorneys-fees.shtml#c113</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lurker Keith]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:23:34 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[That's how this whole mess started getting uncovered: <br />
<br />
<a href='http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121130/17100821190/copyright-troll-case-tossed-fraud-court-after-abbott-costello-worthy-hearing.shtml' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121130/17100821190/copyright-troll-case-tossed-fraud-court-after-abbott-costello-worthy-hearing.shtml</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Law is for Lawyers</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/19133923200/copyright-patent-its-all-same-to-worlds-third-largest-news-agency.shtml#c708</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:23:01 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/19133923200/copyright-patent-its-all-same-to-worlds-third-largest-news-agency.shtml#c708</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[My position is that ideals are great, that occasional mistakes are not inconsistent with having ideals, and that Techdirt writers are once again blowing a tiny event (which they have effectively no insight into and have not investigated in the slightest) into a huge deal to put forth their own agenda...while denying it's about an anti-IP agenda and claiming it's really more about journalistic integrity.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/00583723201/if-you-thought-copyright-was-mess-earth-what-does-it-look-like-space.shtml#c278</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Burkhardt]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:22:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Again, the real issue is reimportation.  We will want to watch the Mars Landing.  But if the astronauts are singing an inspirational tune, or have one playing in the background, the audio track is  in trouble.  And the "company" established to finance the colony mission is likely incorporated in a Bern Convention state, meaning all of your support could come out from under you as the follow up supplies cant be shipped, cause the colony venture was sued for the colonists actions, and now has no money....Until the colony is self sufficient, it cant form a truly independent government, and therefore will be held in some fashion to Earth copyright.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c64</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:22:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is a decent excuse the first couple times, but now we hear a story of insane takedowns every day. Its clearly being abused and mark my words it will only get worse without a clear penalty being applied to frivolous, incorrect, or bad faith takedowns. <br />
<br />
It has gotten to the point where content owners are basically thinking I don't like what this guy wrote or did *whips out takedown hammer"]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: @&quot;the public do not respect copyright.&quot;</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c57</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[out_of_the_blue]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:22:06 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Actually, a LARGE portion of the public DOES respect copyright because it's based simple and obvious common law: I made it, therefore I own it. Only you kids who want to take and enjoy for free entertainments that you haven't created without giving a little bit of money in exchange show disrepect for common law in your piracy. <br />
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Now, don't argue that you're acting morally by throwing up a bunch of misleading special cases or pointing to corporate fat cats also stealing when you don't accept the simple fundamentals of copyright being common law.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/00583723201/if-you-thought-copyright-was-mess-earth-what-does-it-look-like-space.shtml#c262</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:21:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[You do actually. Well not "you" specifically, but the 1967 Outer Space Treaty established all of outer space as an international commons by describing it as the "province of all mankind" and forbidding states from claiming territorial sovereignty. Doesn't say anything about copyright though.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/10542823205/another-court-tells-prenda-to-pay-up-attorneys-fees.shtml#c100</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:18:08 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[AND If they hounded all involved like they did to Aaron (RIP) could we look forward to a mass suicide (or is that too much to hope for)??]]></content:encoded>
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<title>It doesn't have to be DMCA</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/00412423167/fair-use-me-not-thee.shtml#c37</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:16:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["It does not meet the requirements of a proper DMCA takedown notice"<br />
<br />
But why should it?  They are the alleged infringers, not the service provider.  They are not eligible for the DMCA safe harbors in the first place, so issuing a DMCA notice to them wouldn't be proper.  <br />
<br />
I'd take this as a cease-and-desist notice.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Law is for Lawyers</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/19133923200/copyright-patent-its-all-same-to-worlds-third-largest-news-agency.shtml#c702</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Beadon]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:14:33 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Your argument is becoming very confused. We know that news organizations often fail to live up to the ideals of journalism, and the reason we criticize them for it is because we think those ideals are good, and because many (i'd say most) people involved in the actual editorial side of journalism, especially at an organization like AFP, think so too. There's no contradiction here... I support the ideals, and am critical when news agencies fail to live up to them.<br />
<br />
Your position seems to be that because mistakes get made, we should give up on the ideals altogether... and yet you're the one accusing us of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I think it's time for you to sit back and think about the side you've taken on this issue.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:14:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Another article where a large organization made up of lots of individual actors is being blamed for contradictory behavior with no insight whatsoever as to the cause. <br />
<br />
It might be "interesting" that this happened, but it would be more interesting to find out how. For example, did the person who used Reinhardt's clip also issue the takedown? Or were those different people? If so, are they in the same department? Have they ever even met? Are the working under the same policy? What is the KTVB policy on fair use...by themselves or others? Is this a case of an overzealous summer intern in the legal department of a parent corporation somewhere, or is there some actual hypocrisy at the policy level?<br />
<br />
Techdirt writers are not interested in such details, which might be useful in understanding what the real problem is (so it might be fixed). These details might make it harder to demonize organizations who do things like issue takedowns, because they might reveal that this case of egregious institutional hypocrisy was actually more like a run-of-the-mill cock up.<br />
<br />
But who has time these days to actually understand a situation before publishing about it? Somebody blogged that a guy associated with Prenda's third cousin drive alone in the carpool lane for a mile last week. Better rewrite that article and add a sentence or two of blistering commentary so we can get it up on the front page.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:14:22 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I couldn't have said it better.......]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Just for thought...</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Smith]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:14:04 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Rather than attempting to reply for the chain above, I thought that I would state my reason's on why this is a big deal in its own thread.<br />
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Lets start with the obvious.  This is a news agency.  I would be surprised if their entire business model does not revolve around copyright.  Even if the writer doesn't know the difference (which I would be skeptical of) their editor should definitely know.  News organizations usually do a pretty good job of making sure at least someone covering a topic (the writer or editor) understands the subject.  For who ever speculated that the editor was on vacation, I am sure that someone was still supposed to review the article.<br />
<br />
Next reason why its a big deal.  The difference between patents and copyright (as I am sure most readers that frequent this site can tell you) is a minimum of 50 years.  And that is assuming that the copyright holder dies the moment the copyright on the work comes into existence (also that you only look at the current written rules with no adjustments).  Remember patents are 20 years, copyright creator life time plus 70 years.  So next time you think there is no difference between the two, you should think what it would mean to you if a judge sentenced you to jail for life without prole instead of the 20 years you were supposed to get.  I bet that would mean something different to you.  <br />
<br />
Same here, there is a tremendous time difference between the two.  If its too confusing for people to understand the basic differences then I think that is an indication that they obviously need work.  Also given that fact that nearly everyone on this planet is impacted on a daily basis by both of these concepts we should all have some understanding of the differences.  <br />
<br />
Think my statement above is laughable, you can't use the internet, watch tv, or listen to the radio without encountering copyright.  And its getting hard to eat without  swallowing someones patent.  Use a cell phone, you are dealing with both.<br />
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So yea, I will repeat it again.  It is a big deal.  Newspapers have been complaining for years about all of the business that the internet has cost them, well, if they can't even get the basics correct how can we trust that they are reporting on the complicated.]]></content:encoded>
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