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<dc:creator><![CDATA[JP Jones]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:14:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[AJ is just excited that he found something that appears to prove his point.  If only he weren't begging the question fallaciously every time he'd almost have made a valid point.  By the way, using a fallacy while accusing someone else of a fallacy is called irony.<br />
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Let me explain.  The basic premise of your argument is wrong.  You are saying that removing the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA weakens the rights of copyright holders because removing the anti-circumvention clause weakens the rights of copyright holders.  This is a logical fallacy known as "begging the question" (as opposed to the common use where it means creating a question).  Repetition of your fallacy does not improve it's validity.<br />
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The second part of your statement must be argued for the initial postulate to be valid.  In other words, you must first explain how making circumvention of protections for non-illegal uses of copyrighted material in any way affects the rights of copyright holders.<br />
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For example, let's take another set of laws.  It is illegal for you to break into my house.  It is not illegal for you to enter if I give you permission, and it is always legal for me to enter my own house barring something like a restraining order.  Let's imagine it is also illegal to climb into a house through a window since that is circumventing the security of the house.<br />
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Now, as a homeowner, I have the right to prevent unauthorized entry to my home.  If I accidentally lock myself out of the house, and climb in through a window, should I be prosecuted for breaking and entering under the clause of the law that states going through the window is illegal?  And if that law were removed, so it is now legal for *me* to enter my house, but still illegal for an intruder, does that diminish my homeowners rights in any way?  Either way the right to enter my house is unaffected...someone entering illegally is illegal, regardless of the method, and someone entering legally should not be a criminal for entering through an "illegal" method.<br />
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So what Mike stated is correct...the actual copyrights of copyright holders are unaffected by this change.  The ability to take <i>legal</i> activity and treat it as <i>illegal</i> simply due to the method would be removed.  This may help reduce the abuse of copyright law for non-copyright purposes but does nothing to diminish the copyrights themselves.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130519/19190923142/if-youre-going-to-illegally-seize-citizens-cell-phones-least-make-sure-youre-grabbing-right-ones.shtml#c823</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:12:34 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><i>Why would it matter.</i></blockquote><br />
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<a href="http://www.micron.com/~/media/Documents/Products/Presentation/mabraham_nand_flash_security_fms2011.pdf" rel="nofollow">Physical NAND Flash Security:  Preventing Recovery of Deleted Data</a>, presentation by Michael Abraham, NAND Solutions Group Architect, Micron Technology, August 2011.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Not acceptable</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/01450023148/makers-nutella-force-fan-who-created-world-nutella-day-to-shut-it-down-updated.shtml#c554</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[John85851]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:12:26 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/01450023148/makers-nutella-force-fan-who-created-world-nutella-day-to-shut-it-down-updated.shtml#c554</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["It's just, "Hey, thanks for being a fan, now shut it all down because the lawyers flipped out and somehow think you're harming us." "<br />
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Where did they say "thanks for being a fan"?<br />
<br />
Also, can we please, please stop with the "overzealous lawyers" and "third-party affiliates" nonsense. The company HIRED these lawyers to issue takedown notices, and I'm guessing without the oversight of the company. In turn, the lawyers make money by billing the company for all the hours they spend finding sites and taking down notices- it's not their job to decide which sites are good or bad.<br />
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The company should he held MORE responsible when something like this happens.<br />
<br />
Who's up for starting "Protest Nutella Day"?]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/14172323158/judge-not-impressed-prenda-alan-cooper-lawsuit.shtml#c46</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:11:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Judges don't know the law.<br />
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They're just a bunch of pirates.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c1085</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:07:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Copyright law was made for the public benefit. By fixing the dmca the way mike supports fixing it you make copyright's core stronger]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/14172323158/judge-not-impressed-prenda-alan-cooper-lawsuit.shtml#c36</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Cline]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:07:42 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Wow, it's amazing how many judges are anti-copyright!]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Why am I not surprised?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/00554723091/more-details-emerge-key-legal-fight-over-dmca-abuse.shtml#c118</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:04:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["bob" eh?<br />
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Is that you name or what you do?<br />
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Oh and look.  I'm just as on topic as you are!  Yay me!]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Wrong target. Medicare is insurance</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130502/07475922914/why-even-good-hospitals-doctors-are-obstacle-to-better-cheaper-healthcare.shtml#c347</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:04:02 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130502/07475922914/why-even-good-hospitals-doctors-are-obstacle-to-better-cheaper-healthcare.shtml#c347</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[It's the hospitals causing the Medicare Fraud that raises one's deductible....so the block is hospitals.  The thing is that under Obamacare, the recoup and recovery of funding for Medicare and Medicaide programs becomes more complex due to the fact that all insurance companies with humongous varieties of policies added to the auditing services.  The reason it is much easier to audit the gvt funded programs without Obamacare is that Medicare and Medicade are UNIVERSALLY STANDARDIZED in policy.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Another article to read</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/15583223111/congress-grandstanding-over-google-glass-privacy-concerns-next-up-privacy-concerns-over-your-eyes.shtml#c2437</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suzanne Lainson]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:03:10 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/15583223111/congress-grandstanding-over-google-glass-privacy-concerns-next-up-privacy-concerns-over-your-eyes.shtml#c2437</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[At least the more we discuss privacy, the more people start asking questions about where all of their data is going.<br />
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<a href="http://pandodaily.com/2013/05/20/you-are-your-data-the-scary-future-of-the-quantified-self-movement/" rel="nofollow">You are your data: The scary future of the quantified self movement | PandoDaily</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/13573923121/retired-lt-col-violent-media-has-bred-generation-killers.shtml#c1130</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:02:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[This, coming from a paid killer? Oh, the irony...]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:59:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["It's taking rights away from copyright holders."<br />
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And restoring rights to consumers, boy.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c1064</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:59:30 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>Currently, copyright holders have a legally enforceable claim against those that circumvent access controls</i><br />
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True, and that would disappear, but it isn't a COPYRIGHT claim. It's just a claim the copyright holder has as an extension of a law put in place to protect copyright.<br />
<br />
Just because it's an issue covered in a bill that protects copyright (among other things) doesn't mean it's copyright issue.<br />
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Therefore, "fixing" (liberal usage of the word) the issue has no effect on copyright. That's the point you're failing to understand.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:59:21 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c1050</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[The solution is so very simple that some one with your insight should have immediately thought of it.<br />
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DMCA is a US law. US laws are valid only the US.<br />
<br />
Send your data to China or India. They can legally extract it, they can do it much cheaper than you can, you can spend the day sleeping while the data is processed, and helps the Indian economy which makes the elitists happy.<br />
<br />
See solution simple.<br />
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Everyone happy.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: There has been an update posted on Facebook</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Masnick]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:59:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Yes, Tim added an update to the post.  Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digdug]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:58:44 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/10401723156/if-you-think-you-should-actually-own-products-you-bought-now-would-be-good-time-to-call-congress.shtml#c1041</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[The only way this revision could POSSIBLY weaken copyright is if, by rooting/unlocking alone, folks were reverse engineering the technology/software of a given device. Then you'd be dead to rights in terms of violation, provided it was proved in court anyway<br />
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I bought the damn thing and so long as I'm not 'stealing' content with it or causing physical/mental distress to someone else with it, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with it. If I want to move to another carrier with it, so be it. If I want to install apps that the almighty Apple doesn't like, go me. If I want to sell it to my mother-in-law for $20 I should be able to do that too.<br />
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If you disagree with the idea that what you buy (not license or rent a service/product) is YOURS and not "yours until we say so" then you've got problems, period. I didn't lease a phone, I bought one.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Why am I not surprised?</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Masnick]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:58:18 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/00554723091/more-details-emerge-key-legal-fight-over-dmca-abuse.shtml#c106</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Bob, as per usual, you appear to be confused.  The person who is not trustworthy in this case is the person abusing the DMCA.<br />
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Next time, try reading.  I know, I know, that involves actually understanding the issues at play -- and that's not the sort of thing you do -- but it might help you not sound so completely confused all the time.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Why am I not surprised?</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/00554723091/more-details-emerge-key-legal-fight-over-dmca-abuse.shtml#c82</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[jameshogg]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:58:11 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["But the only great principle they're defending is that they're too cheap and lazy to do their own work."<br />
<br />
The principle is that derivative artists have rights to their fruits of labour.<br />
<br />
Telling different versions of Star Wars, or The Lord of the Rings, or The Lion King <b>IS</b> "doing your own work".  And copyright deprives artists of the right to do that.<br />
<br />
What do you think websites like deviantArt and fanfiction.net have been doing for so long?  Unless you want to really be consistent and say that these websites should be shut down, you're going to have to step back and see how copyright is AGAINST the principles of John Locke, not for them.<br />
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Crowdfunding, whether its through the many tried and tested examples of collecting tickets for gigs, or through Kickstarter, or pre-ordered copies of DVDs, is superior to copyright in every way because both original and derivative artists have their fruits of labour protected.  It makes copyright discreditable from every angle.<br />
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You are not entitled to say how you are best defending the "rights of artists".  So many markets have been wiped out as a result of the communist-tendencies of copyright and the life, liberty and property has been sucked out of derivative artists for too long.  Crowdfunding gives us no excuse for it.<br />
<br />
There. And I didn't have to mention how you've exculpated the accountability of corporations for what they do   through using pirates as scapegoats.  "Since the pirates are running riot, why should be do anything about privacy invasions?" I think there are even many principled copyright <i>maximalists</i> who could call you out for this nonsense.  It is a matter of principle.  The Patriot Act is to be opposed unequivocally, and I say this as somebody who supports the fight against Islamic fascism.  It's the same thing.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130521/12175523157/nyc-says-renting-out-your-place-via-airbnb-is-running-illegal-hotel.shtml#c107</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Masnick]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:56:17 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>I've been reading Techdirt for a long time now, and I really enjoy most of the articles, but you have a *massive* problem with not being able to admit when you're wrong. </i><br />
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Just because you have a different *opinion* does not mean I was "wrong."  In this case, I stand by my opinion.  When I am shown to be factually incorrect, I have no problem at all admitting to the mistakes.<br />
<br />
<i>Uber has been thoroughly discredited ever since it came out that the company is 1) run by an Objectivist who 2) engaged in massive, illegal price gouging in the Sandy flooding and then 3) tried to use ridiculous Objectivist rhetoric to paint a smiley face over the whole thing and make it look like what he was doing was good for everyone involved, when five seconds of critical thinking tears the entire argument to shreds.</i><br />
<br />
None of that has anything to do with what I stated.  It appears you hate Travis because of his views.  So be it.  But that's got nothing to do with the key point, which is that his service -- which is innovative and useful -- is getting hammered due to ridiculous regulations designed to protect cabs.<br />
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<i>So the people who have been around for long enough to garner several good reviews end up rising to the top. <br />
If you're new, you don't have any reviews, meaning that no one is going to want to choose to stay at your place when there are more attractive places with lots of good reviews competing with you.</i><br />
<br />
That doesn't seem to be a problem on AirBnb that I can see, so, no.<br />
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<i>And once people start understanding how important reviews are to getting business, managing reviews starts becoming an important part of the business model. Then you get people writing fake reviews of their own place, (or fake *bad* reviews of the competition,) and people starting to take steps to coerce the sorts of reviews they want out of their customers. (See: the case of that one dentist suing people who wrote bad reviews.)</i><br />
<br />
And there are easy ways to deal with that as well.  Besides,  for the most part, in exploring airbnb, there's little issue about "competition."  People have spare space, and they rent it out when people need it.  No one seems to be all that concerned about competitors.<br />
<br />
But, more to the point, faking reviews is fairly difficult (and expensive) since you'd have to actually book the room first, and AirBnB seems to have a pretty extensive system in place to deal with any problems that arise.<br />
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So... okay, you hate these new services.  That's your opinion.  I disagree.  Why the hate?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: The issue here is overprescription</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:56:17 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130502/07475922914/why-even-good-hospitals-doctors-are-obstacle-to-better-cheaper-healthcare.shtml#c331</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Yup...Doctors are actually being paid by us to do their jobs...UK doctors actually get paid either way.   Maybe that type of incentive isn't so bad....oh and there is no such thing as precautionary when you're prescribed Moxicilin because if that happens here in the US, it usually means you need it so that something doesn't kill you.   Pneumonia is something in particular that Moxicilin is used for...and since pneumonia is life threatening, I would say the US doctor is only doing what he (or she) feels is best for their patient.   The thing is that they don't gain an insurance incentive for prescribing medications...it's only for proper filing and diagnosis.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/12190223151/prendas-paul-hansmeier-asks-appeals-court-to-delay-sanctions-appeals-court-says-no-try-again.shtml#c493</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Cline]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:55:19 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/12190223151/prendas-paul-hansmeier-asks-appeals-court-to-delay-sanctions-appeals-court-says-no-try-again.shtml#c493</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["Is this the judge's job? Or is this the job of the defense? If the judge felt there was fraud here,"<br />
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Lawyers are officers of the court.  It's the judge's job to investigate if he thinks that the lawyers aren't behaving as officers of the court should, and to impose sanctions if he thinks they broke the rules.  In this case, the fraud involved lying to the court, so it's exactly the sort of fraud the judge should be concerned with.]]></content:encoded>
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