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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:15:42 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[If those were more forward thinking companies they'd be spending their money making blind friendly versions of their stuff to 1) try to claim the market, and 2) get lots of good publicity, especially with how all their competitors are acting.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Again, sheerly an anti-copyright WEDGE for Mike.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c81</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:14:48 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c81</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[OK Blue lets think this though with the aid of an example.<br />
<br />
I'm not an accountant, I don't know much about tax law. However I see reports of companies and the rich elite paying a lower % of tax than me or my small business. This annoys me and doesn't seem fair. I want something done. However I don't know enough about tax law to propose the correct changes.<br />
<br />
Do you now see how it is possible to be opposed a state of affairs without having a clear solution for how to fix it?]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130508/10233423003/bug-allows-same-sex-marriage-nintendo-game-nintendo-releases-patch-to-fix-it.shtml#c3773</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[btrussell]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:13:48 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130508/10233423003/bug-allows-same-sex-marriage-nintendo-game-nintendo-releases-patch-to-fix-it.shtml#c3773</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Priorities.<br />
<br />
Ensuring people of the same sex can kiss in public or get married is more important than ending the war on drugs.<br />
<br />
How many people have been killed because they were gay? For all time.<br />
<br />
How many people killed in the last ten years due to the war on drugs?<br />
<br />
Priorities. What the hell is that? Shhhh! (Insert sport) game is about to start.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Actually...</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c230</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Beadon]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:11:37 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c230</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[You're right. I was being generous to the MPAA in calling that learning -- in reality, we've known this was their attitude for a <em>long</em> time.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:10:28 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c68</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Remember, kids. If you can't see, you're not entitled to do the things that normal people who can see are allowed to.<br />
<br />
Don't be a filthy sight pirate. That would be breaking the DRM on your body, and that's far, far worse than raping someone, murdering them, and raping the corpse. out_of_the_blue agrees with this statement.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not an Electronic Rodent]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:08:31 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c224</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>We can hope...</blockquote>Indeed we can, but the anticapatory curtailing of in- and ex-haling is not recommended...]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: It's funny</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:04:58 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c362</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[You're missing the point, I think. <br />
<br />
"However, as it often the case in the free to play models, the people paying are only paying because the pay model is better than the free model."<br />
<br />
Exactly. This is the crux of the argument. Whether it's EA's fiasco with Sim City, studios taking content off Netflix, regional and format windowing or even outright blocks, the moves of these companies has tended to be to make the paid version WORSE than the free version provided by pirates.<br />
<br />
That's what people have been saying here all along. Make the paid version better than the pirated version (which is almost always possible), and people will pay. Make it worse, and people are less likely to pay. You'll never get anywhere with trying to force people to pay for an inferior product, but offer them a freebie then an upgrade? Not everyone will pay, but there's never been a time when 100% of entertainment consumers have paid for it - at least not directly.<br />
<br />
"If they could get entirely for free what they have to pay for today, most if not all of them would just go free."<br />
<br />
Do you have a citation, or is that just an assumption? I can certainly give examples of people paying for products that they can otherwise get for free, and many products have survived for many years without demanding an upfront payment from its audience. You just have to adjust for market realities - and artificial restrictions are no longer viable as a way to convince people to pay up.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: It's funny</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[jupiterkansas]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:03:46 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c357</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["All that they really did was use the free players to pump up their existing universe."<br />
<br />
Exactly. Dedicated users will pay, but you need a large user base to make it appealing to dedicated users. <br />
<br />
If the free version is satisfactory to most people then the free version is the actual product. This is a perfectly valid way to offer something for free, and is a proven model used all over the internet, from Techdirt to Vimeo to Dropbox to games.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:02:49 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c205</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[So American public interest groups may be able to use the EU's transparency laws in order to finally understand what America is trying to do in their secret trade agreements.<br />
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All I forsee is the US government playing ignorant (again) and pretending the documents the EU has to release about trade agreements don't exist and aren't public knowledge.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Again, sheerly an anti-copyright WEDGE for Mike.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c67</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[out_of_the_blue]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:02:13 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c67</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[For someone who claims he's yet to take a position on how to reform copyright, his articles ALWAYS argue for less of it!<br />
<br />
<br />
<i>Take a loopy tour of <b>Techdirt.com!</b> You always end up same place!</i><br />
<a href='http://techdirt.com/' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://techdirt.com/</a><br />
If Mike supports copyright, why are the pirates here? They take him same as I do: <i>PRO-PIRACY!</i><br />
<i>04:02:02[f-  5-2]</i>]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninja]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:57:32 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Amen. But we need to raise awareness for it to backlash heavily.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Techdirt continually mistakes &quot;loss leader&quot; with &quot;FREE&quot;.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c352</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:49:42 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c352</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Oh!  and if they did pay to play.  They wouldn't be as big as they are today.  By hours alone League of Legends is the most played game in the world.<br />
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<a href='http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2012/10/12/league-of-legends-bigger-than-wow-more-daily-players-than-call-of-duty/' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2012/10/12/league-of-legends-bigger-than-wow-more-daily-players-than-call-of-duty/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>I Got Ya Both Covered</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/06185923116/rice-university-professor-skynets-gonna-take-ur-jerbs.shtml#c916</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[mmrtnt]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:47:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA["I call dibs on being the new Socrates."<br />
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<a href='http://botaday.com/node/1381' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://botaday.com/node/1381</a><br />
<br />
"There will be protests against gay-marrying robots."<br />
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<a href='http://botaday.com/node/969' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://botaday.com/node/969</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: It's funny</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niall]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:47:55 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm pretty sure that anybody's motivation to spend money is because they have to, or it gives them something that they want. So what is wrong with something being free at the point of use (think OTA TV) but paying is possible for a 'better' experience (think HBO)?<br />
<br />
Plenty of products are 'free' and do quite well - because they are selling or buying something else (such as your attention).]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: How droll</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/22104223137/sophisticatedjanedoe-fightcopyrighttrolls-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c1134</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:47:30 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is an argument of ego.<br />
<br />
Horse with no name would rather bicker about petty things, and attack someone's credibility like a college burnout then actually discuss things.<br />
<br />
It makes him/her feel better about his terrible lot in life.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>But da Piratez!!111</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c323</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:47:11 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c323</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>"monthly average revenue for the game has more than doubled since we introduced the free-to-play option"</i><br />
<br />
nuff said?<br />
<br />
<i>"This is an established franchise with tons of fans (of all ages, some with actual cash!) over more than 3 decades, and STILL can't get over 30 percent paying, 70 percent freeloaders!</i><br />
<br />
guess not. Sigh.<br />
<br />
Ootb -<br />
Would you rather allow people to try parts of the game, play old content, and improve the gameplay for paying customers while reaching a larger audience or have a game where less people play and have a worse exerpeince (MMOs require players!)? <br />
<br />
If you can improve the game by allowing people to play for free, that helps you even if they aren't paying. It allows the player/fan base to grow. Suddenly you have only 30% of people paying, but you also have 5-10 times more customers! Do the math, profits double. Yet people who can't wrap their heads around giving a product away to advertise and improve the experience don't give themselves the opportunity to allow their product (and thus profit) to reach it's potential. Then they b^tch and moan about da piratez (zomg!).]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: About Sim City</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[PaulT]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:46:16 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c307</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["Nobody was complaining about Sim City's cost"<br />
<br />
Yes they were, indirectly at least, in the sense that the DRM wouldn't have made it so much of an issue if the game had been far cheaper. If the game client had been free, or priced at $20, the complaints would have been reduced. People weren't just pissed about the online requirement - they were pissed that they had so many problems after paying full price for it.<br />
<br />
"In fact, SWTOR still has "online-only" requirements"<br />
<br />
Of course it does, it's an MMORPG (guess what the O stands for). No Sim City game has ever had an enforced online or multiplay component in the past, while that's in the very nature of an MMO. Hence the different standards applied.<br />
<br />
"All I am saying is that F2P makes sense in situations, but what going F2P changed in this case would not apply to fix what was wrong with Sim City."<br />
<br />
No, what was wrong with Sim City would have been fixed by allowing people who wished to play it offline to do so after they've paid $60 for the game. Requiring any online mode for that game other than perhaps activation and patching was doomed from the start.<br />
<br />
Using the freemium model would have helped remove many of the complaints, but what was wrong with the game is the point where they decided to crowbar online and multiplayer where people didn't want it, in a series that never needed it. Whereas an MMO needs online and multiplayer, it has no business being anything but an option in a game series that's fundamentally a solo experience.<br />
<br />
So, it comes down to the design phase. Are you selling a boxed game for $60, or are you selling something that requires a subscription? If you want the $60 up front, you'd damn well better not lock up half the game behind a paywall (day one DLC), or force me to play my single player game online. If you want a subscription model, cheaper game clients will encourage adoption and you'll make more money in the long term (though people will expect content for that subscription).]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Techdirt continually mistakes &quot;loss leader&quot; with &quot;FREE&quot;.</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:45:52 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[You should look at League of Legends. They are huge now and still are free to play. I don't know the ratio but they have they do pretty well for the amount of content they are able to release.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[RD]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:45:08 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[infinity minus a day.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Well...</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:43:53 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c183</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Well, since corporations are apparently also people, this works either way.]]></content:encoded>
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