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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:55:01 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Oh, and one more thing, buskahosa...<br />
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<i>But there is no RIGHT to fair use, only a privilege.</i><br />
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that's a flat-out lie!<br />
<br />
Copyright is the privilege, not Fair Use.  Fair Use is the right and is how creativity fucking works!<br />
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But you'll just ignore what I say like you ignore everything else that counters your little world, won't you?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chosen Reject]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:54:45 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Fair use is the default.  Copyrights infringe on fair use rights.  By upholding the law, we all agree to that, so it's OK.  But that doesn't change what it is.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:52:46 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>It protects DRM which protects copyright.</i><br />
<br />
hoo hoo hoo!<br />
<br />
that is Wrong!  Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG!<br />
<br />
DRM does NOT protect copyright.  DRM is a POS that entertainment industries put up so that people couldn't make legitimate copies of their CDs, DVDs, or Video Games because the publisher didn't want that.<br />
<br />
In fact, AJ, DRM specially controls how content is used.  There is *NOTHING* about DRM related to copyright OTHER than the DMCA.<br />
<br />
So, go back to your MPAA masters and tell them that DRM may just be outlawed soon.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130521/15164823159/bad-day-prenda-continues-judge-rejects-stay-adds-1k-per-day-each-day-they-dont-pay-up.shtml#c138</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenichi tanaka]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:51:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Without commenting on Prenda's legal matters, every attorney knows that it is required to go through the process of appealing any decision handed down by any judge. They cannot jump or skip through the appeals process.<br />
<br />
This is a lesson that they should have paid attention in regards to the fight over Obamacare. Even though attorneys are aware that certain courts will refuse to grant their motions, they are still required, by law, to go through the long and very drawn out appeals process.<br />
<br />
Instead, Prenda tried to skip several hoops by going straight to the appeals court which slapped down their obvious subterfuge. Now, they have to pay an additional $1,000 per day fine past the date they were supposed to pay that judgment that Judge Otis Wright handed down.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chosen Reject]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:51:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Those access controls can still be used.  No law (neither in existence, nor proposed (including this one) will stop you from doing so.  This proposal simply states that those copy protection measures no longer have the force of law.  It does not lessen the punishments for infringements made by bypassing copy protection measures.  It does not remove rights copyright holders have.<br />
<br />
There are few (if any) copy protection measures that haven't been broken, and there is still the analog hole.  No work that has copy protection measures is safe, nor would it be difficult to copy them.  People who want to infringe on a work will do so regardless of the anitcircumvention clause.  By removing it, all that is happening is that the rights of people are being given back to do things that are not otherwise illegal (such as unlocking phones, fair use copying, copying public domain works, etc).  Those who violated the anticircumvention clause to infringe are still committing infringement, while those who violated it for non-infringing purposes are no longer breaking the law.<br />
<br />
What exactly do you have a problem with in this case?  How exactly is copyright law being weakened?<br />
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Not only that, but the law disagrees with you completely.  Section 1201(c) states:<blockquote>Other Rights, Etc., Not Affected.</blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverscarcat]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:49:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Those are stupid arguments, AJ.<br />
<br />
Stop using stupid arguments.<br />
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if you throw a brick at someone or something, you cause harm, thus your rights interfere with someone else's rights to live.  In that case, your rights are trumped.<br />
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So, AJ, kindly, use some fucking common sense for once in your miserable life.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[AB]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:45:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Precisely. Under normal circumstances (like back when police simply did their jobs) I might have ignored the officers actions simply because she really did 'deserve what she got'. But I can't believe the officer isn't aware of all the camera issues and false arrests lately, and that means he needed to obey the law despite her provocation. Also, from a purely professional point of view, he should have simply continued to ignore her. Just as she was within her rights to be obnoxious, he was also within his rights to ignore her. Eventually she would have either given up and left or crossed the line and physically interfered (however trivially) with their work. Then - and only then - would he have had the right to act as he did. With the added bonus that the video would have supported him rather then her.<br />
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Like it or not, the police need to get over their collective camera phobia and get on with doing their jobs in a serious and professional manner. That would be the quickest and easiest way to put this whole camera thing behind us.<br />
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Btw, I wouldn't like having her follow me around with her camera and attitude either, but if I turned around and punched her as quickly as the officer reacted, I would end up sitting in a jail cell for assault. It would take a LOT more provocation then that to make it justifiable. Is it really that unreasonable to expect an on-duty police officer to have even greater self control then an ordinary civilian?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>&gt;&gt;$1k/day</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[radarmonkey]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:44:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>The Court hereby imposes a penalty of $1,000 per day, <b>per person or entity</b>...</blockquote>So, that means for the four (4) persons (e.g., Steele, Hansmeier, Duffy, &amp; Gibbs), and three (3) entities (e.g., AF Holdings, Ingenuity 13, and Prenda), that are specifically called out at the beginning of the same paragraph, that's $7,000 per day they are on the hook for! WOW!]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Ironic considering his career</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:43:22 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I remember the last time I 360 quick scoped an innocent man sitting at a bus stop. I kept getting lag kills while playing Call of Duty that I just had to take my rage out on a real person.  If it wasn't for that game I wouldn't even know how a sniper rifle works.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re:</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon E. Mous]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:40:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[I haven't forgot about it, and if I recall wright Steele still is trying to sue Cooper in the Minnesota case isn't he?<br />
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I don't think we have seen the last of this yet, I would have to believe that Godfread &amp; Cooper will appeal being with the confusion with Judge Wrights motion causing the Judge to be a little befuddled with the aspects of the case.<br />
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I would think Godfread will want to clear Coopers name and get him some monetary compensation for the mis-use and mis-appropriation of Coopers identity.<br />
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So I agree that Godread work isn't in vain and I don't think that Team Prenda and especially John "Teflon John" Steele has escaped Godfread's legal acumen as of yet]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Taking Threats Seriously</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[EddieP]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:35:15 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Saying that he was held without bail "for writing a rap song" isn't true though, is it. I don't support this young man being criminalized, but I don't think he should be blasting threats of violence either, whether its in a rap or not. Nor should we be blaming this on "the Media". He said "Ima beat every murder charge". wtf? This isn't something we minimize, we should take it very seriously. We just saw what happened in Boston when young men fell under a destructive influence, and we shouldn't minimize the seriousness of it. People lost limbs and life behind it. I pray that my fellow Liberals start thinking a little more carefully about the contempt they point at their own country and what it means in this world we are living in. They boy probably shouldn't be locked up, but (speaking figuretively) he sure needs his butt whooped.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon E. Mous]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:32:01 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi SJD   I would suffice a guess that Judge Chen thought their was a chance of probability to Lutz's story in reference to the Salt Marsh Signature fiasco.<br />
<br />
I do think you are right though that Judge Chen may have decided not to move forward with any penalties due to the fact that Judge Wright has already started the proverbial hammer starting it's fall on Team Prenda.<br />
<br />
That being said I don't know if Team Prenda will escape unscathed from Judge Chen. I would think Judge Chen is smart enough to know that something smells with this, but I believe he was looking at it from  the potential of their being an appeal.<br />
<br />
It could be construed as an honest mistake from a CEO who is not too smart (Paging Mark Lutz)I think Judge Chen would rather let them skate on this one, knowing full well they are in serious trouble elsewhere in the state and all over the country.<br />
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While they may have escaped this one, I think we all know the noose is becoming a lot tighter]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Cline]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:31:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>IT IS SO ORDERED.</blockquote>Make it so, Number One.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[That One Guy]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:26:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[No problem, if there's one thing the USG does <i>very</i> well, it's hypocrisy.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>The story that just keeps on giving</title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[AG Wright]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:25:27 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Law students should study this as an example of how to really piss off a bunch of judges.  <br />
Everything on what not to do in one series of decisions.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[sophisticatedjanedoe]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:24:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Begins? :)]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:21:44 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[No doubt Rosing is jealous of Gibbs.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon E. Mous]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:21:12 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[" Further, Steele, Hansmeier, Duffy, Gibbs, AF Holdings, Ingenuity 13, and Prenda are hereby ORDERED TO SHOW CAUSE why they have contravened the Court]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: HEY, TIMMY, don't forget the illegal WARS:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/13573923121/retired-lt-col-violent-media-has-bred-generation-killers.shtml#c1177</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:20:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[Since you seem to believe what the government tells you, Dork Helmetrax, yes, this discussion should indeed be over.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[average_joe]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:20:05 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>DMCA/1201 doesn't protect copyright. It protects DRM.</i><br />
<br />
It protects DRM which protects copyright.<br />
<br />
<i>So you are talking about some non tangible potential of affecting copyrights, while you ignore that DMCA/1201 very concretely violates users ability to exercise fair use.  Therefore dropping DMCA/1201 will restore concrete users' rights and will not really affect any copyrights.</i><br />
<br />
It does indeed make it more difficult to engage certain types of fair use. But there is no RIGHT to fair use, only a privilege. So it doesn't violate your rights. It just makes it more difficult to exercise a privilege in certain ways (but not others).]]></content:encoded>
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