Latest Techdirt Comments http://www.techdirt.com/ Easily digestible tech news.... Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/18225323199/president-obama-is-troubled-about-chilling-effects-his-own-administration-is-causing-to-journalism.shtml#c822 Sat, 25 May 2013 04:26:22 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130523/18225323199/president-obama-is-troubled-about-chilling-effects-his-own-administration-is-causing-to-journalism.shtml#c822 Adshel Electrical and Air http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130101/16214221533/faa-facing-more-pressure-to-change-its-rules-electronic-device-usage.shtml#c433 Sat, 25 May 2013 04:22:44 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130101/16214221533/faa-facing-more-pressure-to-change-its-rules-electronic-device-usage.shtml#c433 Re: The original formula for Coke... http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110311/01465413450/dailydirt-diy-soda-pop-whatever-you-call-carbonated-beverages.shtml#c108 Sat, 25 May 2013 04:20:49 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110311/01465413450/dailydirt-diy-soda-pop-whatever-you-call-carbonated-beverages.shtml#c108 (Sinatra fans will get it.)]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c962 Sat, 25 May 2013 04:07:37 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c962 This is a hard one to counter because everyone needs to work together http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c277 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:49:00 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c277
Be an outsider : LOOK at the arguments from an outsiders perspective.
"cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" rational argument "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar" "cyberwar"

You can not compete with the emotional message of , we are under threat of war if it is spammed out there as propaganda to scare the masses. The actual facts and intellectual arguments are irrelevant. Ask a single viral marketeer who spams a thousand press releases on a Monday morning if he can mislead and create a narrative that the masses eat up. (it happens nearly weekly)


All rational argument will not succeed. Like it hasn't before.
One of many examples.
"wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" Iraq's capability to do anything has been crushed by years of sanctions "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" But Sadam doesn't have any weapons of Mass Destruction "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" Weapons inspector found No wmd's "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" Intellectuals think a war in Iraq is needless if not nefarious"wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd" "wmd"

There is only one way to counter this type of mass brainwashing propaganda. It evolves using the tactic too. Anti-intellectual, I know. How else can you compete ?
You repeat the same phrase over and over again until everyone knows it. Preferably mocking the word "cyberwar" or at least "cyber". The important thing is that we ALL use the same word/phrase. ALWAYS return to the propaganda phrase...ALWAYS


TL;DR

■ Rational arguments are useless against this type of relentless "narrative spam".

■ When your stupid assed neighbor who doesn't even know how to switch on a computer starts talking about "cyberwar".... it's over. They win the public will to own all the internets.

■ We have to counter using their tactic of repetitive propaganda.



If you honestly think that intellectually rational arguments can win, you must not be an intellectual who is thinking rationally]]> Re: Re: All that http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c273 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:36:48 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c273
*giggle*]]> Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/01462423203/ex-prenda-lawyer-brett-gibbs-pleads-poverty-to-judge-wright.shtml#c698 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:36:04 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/01462423203/ex-prenda-lawyer-brett-gibbs-pleads-poverty-to-judge-wright.shtml#c698
Trying to avoid the 'you can't pick on the guy with cancer' reaction some people have.]]> Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c249 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:19:04 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c249
Connecting things to the net is seen as trendy and cool... because they are never forced to bear the weight of their own bad decisions. We want to do this cause it sounds cool and we'll fire anyone who offers any resistance because its a horrible idea.]]> Re: Re: Re: All that http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c244 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:15:02 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c244 I have access to all sorts of weapons and can weaponize all sorts of common household items.

What exactly does my access to weapons have to do with the topic at hand?]]> Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c230 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:09:02 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c230 Re: Cyber Sales http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c226 Sat, 25 May 2013 03:06:38 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c226 what bozos, the US government already compromises the equipment US companies SELL.]]> Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c222 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:59:56 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c222
Someone ought to call in and ask them that and bring these issues up and record the conversation in case they fail to air it we can put it on youtube.]]> Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c933 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:32:13 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c933
And this is some strong language, but bear with me.

It isn't here because as much as the 'PC master race' likes to stroke itself, the real winner in the end is the goddamn smartphone. Let's be honest once and for all, the smartphone market is outselling, all by itself, PC AND consoles combined, isn't losing steam in the slightest, and is bringing in enormous profits for little effort for devs and publishers.

In the end, the tiny little piece of shit phones that every hipster twat shows off are the real winner, and the 'hardcore' gamers and 'PC master race' can just watch and gnash their teeth because for all PCs are more versatile, they lack the sheer selling power that smartphones have.

Smartphones are really ruining everything nowadays...]]> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c220 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:31:31 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130522/02021423169/defense-digital-freedom-its-time-to-get-beyond-cyber-hyperbole.shtml#c220 Recently, the United States chose to sign a bilateral agreement with Russia on combatting Intellectual Property Rights infringements. The agreed cooperation seems in direct contradiction with objectives of the State Department in the field of internet freedom.

I can see how you found this with your 10 minutely "Intellectual Property" Google search.

But anyway, she appears to be just as confused as you Mr Masnick in not understanding the difference between "Intellectual property" and "Internet Freedom", doing deep packet searches is not the same as taking away your internet freedom, it is no fire wall, but to investigate IP right theft it is just another tool.

In other words Internet freedom is not an automatic right to breach IP laws, I know you really, really want it to be that way. But it's not.

Just because YOU CAN copy or steal something off the internet, does not make it legal for you to do that.

Internet freedom is not the freedom to steal whatever you like because "it's the internet".

In relation to your calling all this "Cybersecurity" "Hype" and FUD. Clearly it does occur and on large scale both commercial, protect, and state advancement. It does happen, and this lady simply states you need knowledge and openness in that regard.

Masnick you are not knowledgeable or open about cyber threats, you dismiss them as FUD and HYPE.

Clear the is FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt, but that is because these attacks are real, they DO occur often and they are routinely report in the news.

It's not the politicians coming out independently and making these statements but making them in response to actual real like occurrence's and their frequency. (often).

All she is saying, is get the facts, be level headed and aware, be informed, prepared, alert but not alarmed.

All you appear to be saying is "it's all just FUD and Hype".]]> Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c917 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:29:03 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c917 Re: Re: Re: Re: Dont like it?? DONT BUY IT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c895 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:28:58 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c895
Turned out to be a fairly decent game as well.]]> Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c851 Sat, 25 May 2013 02:01:11 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c851 Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c850 Sat, 25 May 2013 01:56:06 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c850 Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c825 Sat, 25 May 2013 01:54:15 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/06445123204/xbox-one-release-tons-questions-very-few-answers.shtml#c825
The new xbox uses an AMD CPU which is x86 not power PC like IBMs. that means no software that was written for the previous 2 xboxes will run on it without being recompiled/ported.]]> Re: Re: Re: Re: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/01462423203/ex-prenda-lawyer-brett-gibbs-pleads-poverty-to-judge-wright.shtml#c675 Sat, 25 May 2013 01:44:04 PDT http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/01462423203/ex-prenda-lawyer-brett-gibbs-pleads-poverty-to-judge-wright.shtml#c675
Or put more simply: Extortionists don't get the play the victim card.]]>