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<title>About Sim City</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c249</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:20:59 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c249</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>It's a shame they haven't tried a similar strategy with other EA games like SimCity, instead choosing to lock the game up tighter than Han Solo trapped in carbonite with an always-online requirement nobody wants. </i><br />
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Umm...  I hated just about everything they put out about Sim City, especially the online-only DRM and the social aspects of it but...  You can't really say that what happened here with SWTOR is the solution to Sim City's woes.  <br />
<br />
All SWTOR did was remove the money investment that people needed, both in buying it and the monthly subscription.  Nobody was complaining about Sim City's cost (aside from the people angry that PC games are costing $60, which was only that price for console games because of the massive license fee they pay to console makers), and it had no subscription.<br />
<br />
In fact, SWTOR still has "online-only" requirements, and unlike Sim City a lot of the game's calculations are done on servers.  In addition, it is arbitrarily locking up a LOT of content behind their "optional" monthly subscription pay wall, meaning that free loaders can't even use it as much as they can or get the same items, unlike in Sim City which, after its initial investment everything is available.<br />
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Long story short, I am not trying to defend Sim City's horrible choices.  All I am saying is that F2P makes sense in situations, but what going F2P changed in this case would not apply to fix what was wrong with Sim City.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>That was nice</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/07262023094/restaurant-facebook-goes-nuclear-facebook-over-reviews-gordon-ramsay-owner-cry-hack.shtml#c1217</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[blaine]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:19:44 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/07262023094/restaurant-facebook-goes-nuclear-facebook-over-reviews-gordon-ramsay-owner-cry-hack.shtml#c1217</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[That was really nice of the hacker to delete that message.  He didn't want the hackee to be embarrassed.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Actually...</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c206</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[horse with no name]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:33 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130518/17573523139/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c206</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<b>As we learned </b><br />
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Now that's the funniest comment of the week by far.  You are assuming learning where clearly none is evident.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>It's funny</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c238</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[horse with no name]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:11:51 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c238</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[All that they really did was use the free players to pump up their existing universe.  However, as it often the case in the free to play models, the people paying are only paying because the pay model is better than the free model.<br />
<br />
If they could get entirely for free what they have to pay for today, most if not all of them would just go free.  Don't confuse a free tasting / sample / limited use with the actual product.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c170</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zakida Paul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:07:46 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c170</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Does any government truly represent the needs of the majority?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c226</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zakida Paul]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:05:05 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c226</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[How many anomalies does one need before they stop being anomalies?]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c33</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atkray]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:59:25 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c33</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is exactly what I thought as I read this. If they want to play this card I think it should be embraced as an example of exactly why we need to abolish the whole copyright system. I reckon they would fall all over themselves backpedaling.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Techdirt continually mistakes &quot;loss leader&quot; with &quot;FREE&quot;.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c222</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[RD]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:59:13 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c222</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA["This is an established franchise with tons of fans (of all ages, some with actual cash!) over more than 3 decades, and STILL can't get over 30 percent paying, 70 percent freeloaders!"<br />
<br />
Stupid fucking troll still doesn't get it.<br />
<br />
30 percent paying is still better than less than 30 percent paying. You always assume that anything less than 100% paying=failure. It doesn't matter if 90% are "freeloaders" as long as the 10% (or whatever percent) that pay are enough to make the thing profitable, AND is still better than where they were before.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:58:57 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c204</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[It should also be noted that, at least according to congress, anyone that sells their works for a profit are supporting terrorism because they are enabling terrorists to sell infringing copies and profit. So we should all detest anyone that sells their works because by not making them freely available they are supporting terrorism.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c185</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:57:01 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c185</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[No: They would not have earned more from launching it as a FTP! The game was a pretty large success in the first weeks, after which the game went downhill. In the first months, they have probably earned a large part of their investment back. Now, the game lacked a good endgame and the content they had in that part was heavily riddled with bugs, which made a lot of people so frustrated that they quit.<br />
In the end, they turned to FTP after subscribers almost vanishing.<br />
<br />
We can argue about when they should have turned to FTP, but the fact is that the game had an amazing launch player-wise and since the lack of players on subscriptions are the main reason why FTP works, that is not what was needed here!]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Well...</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c155</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[PRMan]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:54:10 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/09430123119/eu-commission-sued-refusing-to-reveal-trade-agreement-documents-they-shared-with-lobbyists.shtml#c155</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Maybe Europe can finally show America what "government of the people, by the people and for the people" really means.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/06185923116/rice-university-professor-skynets-gonna-take-ur-jerbs.shtml#c894</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Torg]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:53:15 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/06185923116/rice-university-professor-skynets-gonna-take-ur-jerbs.shtml#c894</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Having children in the context of machines would be manufacturing new machines rather than carrying a machine to term via pregnancy, and machines can already manufacture new machines, so that one's out.<br />
<br />
Feeling empathy, writing books, imagining, admiring art, feeling regret or any other human emotion, and various patterns of thought are things we don't know how to make machines do yet. The fact that humans can do those things shows that it's possible for things to do those things, therefore it's possible in principle for us to design things that can do those things. We just need to figure out how.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Techdirt continually mistakes &quot;loss leader&quot; with &quot;FREE&quot;.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c174</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:52:39 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c174</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Little boy blue can't make two points without contradicting himself, doesn't understand what "monthly average revenue for the game has more than doubled" means.  The news at 11.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>It's not some grand experiment</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c163</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[MissingFrame]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:51:50 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c163</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[F2P isn't new with MMO games and EA is hardly some frontrunner here. So woohoo the slimeballs at EA finally moved into the 21st century.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c154</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:51:41 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c154</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Just as an aside, there are some things I'd like to point out:<br />
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1) AC above has it right; this doesn't mean EA has learned anything. <br />
<br />
2) I think most publishers understand that free *can* work - it is just that many times they either a) aren't certain that it *will* work or b) believe they can make more money with a pay-to-play model. In this case, EA probably knew beforehand that a free to play model would have more accounts, but that wasn't what they were interested in. <br />
<br />
 What they wanted was to replicate the success of WoW, which made money hand over fist. The goal was to attract a paying subscriber base, which would have significantly more revenue per account than a free-to-play/advertising based model. Now, with that said WoW still made more money than any video game ever. The question EA asked (and we should be asking) is this: would WoW have made more money for Blizzard free-to-play or subscription based? <br />
<br />
For their part, Blizzard firmly believes that they would have made less money without paid subscriptions. Free can work, but so can paid. <br />
<br />
EA's goal was that high-profit setup. They failed in that aim, and the adjustment is just moving from an unsuccessful fee model to a relatively more successful advertising one.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/08324323118/trade-group-representing-many-large-companies-claims-that-exceptions-blind-would-cast-aside-copyright.shtml#c21</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[fogbugzd]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:49:51 PDT</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[The backlash is more likely to "cast aside" copyright than almost anything else they could do.  On second thought, perhaps we should be encouraging the trade groups.]]></content:encoded>
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<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c152</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Coward]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:49:43 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c152</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[Crazy part?  They made money going free even though the way they implemented free to play was <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/the-old-republics-free-to-play-option-isnt-worth-your-time-let-alone-money" rel="nofollow">pretty shitty.</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130514/15163123086/did-paul-duffys-wife-admit-that-duffy-was-engaged-interstate-extortion-facebook.shtml#c870</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lord Binky]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:48:59 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130514/15163123086/did-paul-duffys-wife-admit-that-duffy-was-engaged-interstate-extortion-facebook.shtml#c870</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[The mental flexibility required to twist extorting people for associating their name with porn into preventing minors from accessing porn is really quite impressive.<br />
<br />
Especially impressive when you consider that at the same time that she is blindly ignoring the minors she considers as being protected are generally more skilled at aquiring porn than the adults they extorting.]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Techdirt continually mistakes &quot;loss leader&quot; with &quot;FREE&quot;.</title>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c142</link>
<dc:creator><![CDATA[out_of_the_blue]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:44:06 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20130508/06065623001/new-hope-how-going-free-to-play-brought-redemption-to-star-wars-mmo.shtml#c142</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[This isn't an advertising supported FREE, presumably has some benefits for paying.<br />
<br />
Now go over to the dark side, ha, and look at the raw number of freeloaders: 1,700,000 to 500,000, or 3.4 : 1 ratio!<br />
<br />
This is an established franchise with tons of fans (of all ages, some with actual cash!) over more than 3 decades, and STILL can't get over 30 percent paying, 70 percent freeloaders!<br />
<br />
So, NO, still don't see "FREE" working the way you claim.]]></content:encoded>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lord Binky]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:10 PDT</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130515/05513523093/suburban-express-goes-double-nothing-their-aggressive-behavior.shtml#c126</guid>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[This makes no sense, why would I choose to have shady business practices if it requires me to have as thick a skin as straightforward bad business practices?]]></content:encoded>
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