White House Petition Concerning Legality Of Unlocking Phones Passes The Magic 100,000 Mark

from the and-now-we-wait dept

Earlier this month, we wrote about a White House Petition, asking to make unlocking mobile phones legal again, since it had been made infringing again, thanks to the Librarian of Congress omitting it from the list of DMCA exceptions last year. As we noted, the White House had recently bumped up the number of signatures needed for it to respond from 25,000 to 100,000, making it difficult to get over that barrier.

However, overnight, that petition finally got over the hurdle, hitting 100,000 signatures. I believe this may be the first petition to hit that threshold under the “new” system. Of course, getting it to that point is merely step one. The real issue is in how the White House will respond, and they have an incredibly easy out: they just point out that the exemption process happens on a schedule, and that those who are concerned about this issue should file to have the Librarian of Congress reconsider in three years…

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I actually like the higher petition threshold because now more trivial issues can better be ignored and more important issues, like this, can be highlighted. Having a million issues pass the 25,000 threshold diminishes the impact of this petition passing the 100,000 signature threshold since the threshold was low and many petitions are to be considered and responded to. Too much clutter. Now, with a higher threshold, this and other more important petitions stand out more.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

I actually wouldn’t mind seeing the threshold going up a bit. If the threshold is 200,000 and a petition to reduce copy protection lengths goes through with far more than 200,000 (and that’s something that far more than 200,000 people should easily sign to) fairly quickly (there should be a reasonable period of time, of course, due to server limitations on the amount of petitions that can be taken at once) and it is one of the very few petitions that goes through, having a higher threshold with fewer petitions to clutter up our attention span sends a much stronger message to the government. WE WANT THIS DONE!!!! and a whole lot of people are paying attention and this is one of the few things we are paying attention to. It makes it easier for the public to show and highlight its consensus and have it stand out.

Anonymous Coward says:

Steve's Job

White House: Um, we could, um, make it legal, but, um, have you stopped to consider the lost jobs? In these tuff economic times, um, we need to focus on what really matters, um, jobs. We understand folks may be concerned about what they can or can’t do with their [property?] but, um, we don’t think it is as important as, um, jobs, at least right now.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Steve's Job

White House: You have to think about the children of the employees of cell carriers don’t get paid their bonuses because new customers switching from an old carrier choose not to purchase a new phone and instead use the perfectly functional one they already have. These children are really the issue here. Also when cell carriers don’t get paid for new phones, they then can’t afford to invest in updated security measures that make them vulnerable to cyber attack. And lastly… piracy is somehow related here. We can’t really explain how but trust us it is and that is bad (which we also can’t explain how so again just trust us) so you can see where we are just looking out for your best interest here. Thank you for your concern, but we know what we are doing here, and we’ve got this one. Now you can all go back to looking at cat videos and just let us do our thing.

fogbugzd (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Actually, the Death Star petition got a better response than most of the petitions have gotten.

I think the responses are mostly written by junior staffers who use the petitions as an opportunity to practice the vital political skill of responding to a question without actually saying or doing anything meaningful.

out_of_the_blue says:

And we all know what Mike's Step 2 is! (New here? See below.)

However, overnight, that petition finally got over the hurdle, hitting 100,000 signatures. I believe this may be the first petition to hit that threshold under the “new” system. Of course, getting it to that point is merely step one.

You admittedly can’t make it over the 2nd step, college boy. Nothing but question marks that you expect someone else to fill in for you.

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Don’t miss Mike’s other site, Step2, where his secret formula for success is revealed as… wait for it… Step 2: ??????

Rich says:

Re: Re: Re:2 And we all know what Mike's Step 2 is! (New here? See below.)

If you want to, do it! It’s not always easy, but it is doable. I was a poorboy. I worked in a restaurant for 10 yrs. to get a 4 yr. degree. I worked full time, and drove an hour to college (also full time). My daughter was born during my first semester. Tough times, but at least I have the money now to pay for her college, so she doesn’t have to go through what I did.

Anonymous Coward says:

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This is a trend we see all over the world. In Denmark, a new law going into effect later this year will close for FOIA requests to internal communication in and between ministries, an unelected employee is taking the fall for a case where the 2 largest parties likely both have committed crimes, elections are getting digitized with civil experts screaming no or wait, there has been created a bare minimum of oversight over our three letter secrecy soups while they get every kind of DPI surveillance data delivered from ISPs and banks/government-citizen interactions and a register of lobbyists has been dropped for the nth time the last 10 years!

Transparency is not increasing, but decreasing at the moment and the politicians are increasing the insulation between their world and the citizens. It is a disgrace, but it is broadly agreed on among politicians and therefore impossible to stop!

Anonymous Coward says:

I'm more annoyed....

That people ignored me when I was shouting that this was happening. Blown off. Called ‘tin foil hatty’.

I feel like Will Smith in Men in Black II: “Yo! People! We got a BUG in the ELECTRICAL SYSTEM!”

[shit ass stuff deployed]

“Yeah, now y’all runnin’! Now y’all- no, no, no, come on, sit down, sit down! It’s only a 600 foot worm!”

[citation needed or GTFO] says:

The real issue is in how the White House will respond, and they have an incredibly easy out: they just point out that the exemption process happens on a schedule, and that those who are concerned about this issue should file to have the Librarian of Congress reconsider in three years…

Or you know, they could just ignore it

Anonymous Coward says:

Even though it has enough signatures to be considered in the White House, I don’t think it stands a snowball’s chance to pass. It was omitted from the DCMA list more than likely for a reason. And that reason, well, we can only speculate..but it’s probably got something to do with the Telecom Industry putting money in the pockets of those we’ve elected to represent us. Speculation..but it makes sense.

Over 100,000 signatures is impressive, yes…but there’s millions & millions & millions of people in the US, compared to these 100,000 or so signatures. That’s a HUGE difference to take into consideration.

R.H. (profile) says:

The Requirements and Limitations of Democracy

It is fortunate that so many people have decided to take action and actually involve themselves in the running of their government. However, this is only a beginning. We as a people need to continue being involved in our government or we will begin to discover the issues with democracy in action just like the Soviets discovered the inherent corruption that comes with Communism once you move from plans on paper to reality.

Democracy, even in the form of a republic requires an informed and motivated citizenry to keep it running properly. The problem in reality is that too large a portion of the American citizenry is apathetic or simply uninformed. I’m not sure how we can keep the entire adult population, or at least a large enough percentage to matter, informed and motivated enough to actually care what happens in our government. It pains me when I think about it since I can’t come up with a solution that is actually plausible.

Now before I get flamed, I am not calling all those who disagree with me uninformed but, I must imagine that if we were actually more informed then maybe our elected and appointed officials wouldn’t be able to do things like this so easily.

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