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by IC Expert,
Carlo Longino


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bacteria, mobile phones



Talking On A Cell Phone Like 'Placing Your Face On A Toilet Bowl'

from the yeah,-but-is-your-toilet-3G? dept

A new study checked out the mobile phones of 200 doctors and nurses, and found that 95 percent of them were contaminated with bacteria, while 1 in 8 had the MRSA staph bug. These findings pretty much echo those of previous studies, and like those earlier efforts, this one doesn't really go into exactly how dangerous these bacteria-laden handsets are. Unless, of course, you count the comments by the head of a "microbial sterilisation systems company" -- who in no way has a dog in this hunt -- that "holding your phone to your mouth is as dangerous as placing your face on a toilet bowl." Somehow, that comment doesn't seem too convincing, even though it's fairly colorful. If handsets were really portable mongers of bacteria-based death, one would think these medical studies might make that clear, and doctors and hospitals would take some steps to address the problem.

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  1. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 10:40am
    by Ima Fish

    But if it's your phone, then any contamination on the phone came from you. Thus, you're already infected.

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  2. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 10:48am

    I don't pee on my phone. it isn't a toilet bowl.

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  3. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 10:55am

    Re:

    by icon ChrisB (profile)

    Public Service Announcement: Pee is sterile. Your crotch is not. That is why you should wash your hands.

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  4. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:03am

    Re: Re:

    by icon WarOtter (profile)

    Or just pee on your hands and crotch... and phone. Problem solved!

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  5. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:06am
    by dblevins

    Gee, almost as contaminated as Doctor's ties !!

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  6. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:19am
    by Anonymous Coward

    Anything exposed to the environment is contaminated. Why would anyone thing a cell phone is any different? Try a swab test on your pager, TV remote , car door remote, garage door opener, the pen in your shirt pocket, your wallet, your credit cards, or any one of a thousand every day items. A cell phone is no more risky a vector than any of those items.

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  7. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:21am
    by Scote

    Actually, toilet's aren't nearly as dirty as people assume, partially because they get cleaned regularly. Want pathogenic bacteria? Check you kitchen sink drain.

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  8. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:26am
    by jonnyq

    In other news, placing your face on a toilet bowl is no more dangerous than talking on your cell phone.

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  9. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:28am

    Re: Re:

    by Chronno S. Trigger

    PSA: Your hands are more contaminated than your crotch or a toilet. Your mouth is the most infested place on a human body, so I could imagine that something you talk onto would be almost as contaminated.

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  10. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:31am

    Re: Re:

    by TheStupidOne

    Is your crotch dirtier than your stomach? legs? feet? armpits? nose? hair? keyboard???

    I don't know about the rest of you but i wash my crotch at least once a day ... when was the last time you washed your keyboard?

    To be honest i actually did wash mine once when I spilled a highly alcoholic drink on it and killed everything growing in it. But then the alcohol evaporated and the sugars in the drink encouraged much more to grow.

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  11. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:39am

    Welcome To Our Hone

    by Bob-o

    Notice there wasn't a p? Let's keep it that way.

    I don't talk to your toilet, so please don't pee on my phone.

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  12. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:41am
    by SteveD

    And I thought keyboards were supposed to be the big killer...

    You'll never be rid of germs in a hospital, because members of the public keep bringing them in! But what matters is the doctors interaction with the patient, getting them to follow good practises in keeping their hands clean etc.

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  13. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:51am

    Re:

    by boost

    Oh, you really must try it out...it is all the rage.

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  14. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:55am
    by GLaDOS

    That thing is probably some kind of raw sewage container! Go ahead and rub your face all over it!

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  15. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 11:59am

    Toilet Bowls bad comparison for dirty

    by Terry Robinson

    Toilet bowls are regularly cleaned with strong disinfectants in almost any health environment. Several other surfaces we assume are clean like ice machines and desk surfaces regularly show more bacteria than toilet bowls.

    Additionally, the registered bacteria is well below what is considered to be enough to cause an infection to anyone which is conveniently overlooked.

    Quite the fearmongering, techdirt is too good a publication to make the same omissions as other media outlets.

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  16. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:00pm

    Re: Re:

    by Trevlac

    He said toilet *seat*.

    Do you pee on your toilet seat?

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  17. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:06pm

    Hitchhiker's alert

    by ondigo

    This doesn't make sense since Earthmen are descended from Golgafrinchan telephone disinfectors.

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  18. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:07pm

    A Quick Wipe

    by JB

    I don't remember where I read it, but I remember it being stated that wiping the toilet seat off with some toilet paper is more effective at reducing bacterial contact than using those paper covers. I think the results were a 90% reduction in bacteria from simply wiping the seat. So, why not just quickly wipe the cell phone on your shirt or pants. I know I tend to wipe off the screen on my phone quite regularly since it collects oils from being in contact with my face, ear and hair.

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  19. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:18pm

    Cup Your Hands...

    by TPBer

    I Gotta Pee!

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  20. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:24pm

    Keyboards?

    by Bah

    Aren't keyboards supposed to be one of the dirtiest things that people use regularly? Maybe they should do something about that.

    Some kind of...clingfilm wrapper? That they change once a day?

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  21. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:29pm

    Our dirty cell phones

    by Lisa

    While this story just came out, I read two years ago how dirty and germ infested our cell phones were! About a year ago, I found a product on the Internet that makes wipes just for cell phones. The company is called Wireless Wipes.
    The wipes dry really fast and I love the green tea cusumber smell. Try them out! I use them all the time.

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  22. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:37pm

    Doesn't surprise me

    by Yakko Warner

    Considering the crap people talk about on their phones all day, it just stands to reason...

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  23. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:40pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    Logic not allowed in fear mongering

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  24. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 12:55pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    If we clean everything up completely then how will our immune systems learn?

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  25. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 1:21pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    haha

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  26. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 1:39pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    YES!!! THANK YOU!!! SOMEBODY WHO GETS IT!!! People, think about it, germs are everywhere. Part of the reason we get sick so easy these days is because everybody is so obsessed with making everything too clean. When we don't get exposed to germs, our bodies don't get a chance to form antibodies which protect against infectious diseases. By keeping everything so sterile, it actually makes it very easy for us to get sick. That's not to say that cleanliness isn't important, but there is a balance that needs to be maintained. I can understand, however, that it is an issue for discussion in the realm of hospitals, which is one place where cleanliness is essential for patient health. Beyond that, get over it, germs are everywhere 24x7.

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  27. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 1:52pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    now that made me laugh! pee on everything it's the new purell

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  28. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 1:53pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    I disagree...the last time i placed my face in a toilet bowl I nearly puked my brains out.

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  29. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 2:23pm

    Re: Re:

    by Filthy Filthy Anonymous

    The last time I placed MY face in a toilet bowl I WAS puking my brains out...

    And another thing.... it's the bloody mind I'm concerned with, far far filthier than any darn phone i tell ya..

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  30. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 2:26pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    I think it was the mythbusters that did a bacterial test on many places around the house and found the toilet seat to be the cleanest by far (almost no bacteria at all), so I feel safe using cell phones. just need to worry about the cancer issue now...

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  31. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 3:01pm

    Re: Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    Just because germs are the largest biomass on the rock, doesn't mean that we can't try to wipe em out.

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  32. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 3:28pm

    Re: Toilet Bowls bad comparison for dirty

    by Lawrence D'Oliveiro

    True enough—until you flush. Then you raise a fine mist, full of fecal bacteria, that spreads right through the air, onto your face, clothes, everywhere.

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  33. Mar 16th, 2009 @ 3:33pm

    Re: Re: Toilet Bowls bad comparison for dirty

    by Anonymous Coward

    not really, the concentration of fecal bacterial is no worse in the bathroom than anywhere else in the house, even brand new sealed items get fecal bacteria on them when you open it.

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  34. Mar 17th, 2009 @ 12:40pm

    MSRA infected cellphones

    A new study checked out the mobile phones of 200 doctors and nurses, and found that 95 percent of them were contaminated with bacteria, while 1 in 8 had the MRSA staph bug.

    1. The term "contaminated with bacteria" is meaningless - we would die without some bacteria; if they mean "harmful" they need to say that.
    2. So, 1 in 8 hospital personnel are patients? I don't think so.

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  35. Mar 20th, 2009 @ 1:26pm

    See...

    by Marc McDonald

    This is why I don't let girls borrow my phone...they have cooties.

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  36. Apr 13th, 2009 @ 9:55pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    by Wait? what?

    Germs don't even exist... they're just made up by evil scientists who want you to believe in evolution.

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