by Mike Masnick
Thu, Apr 28th 2011 10:26am
Filed Under:
movies, piracy, searches, streaming, studios, youtube
Companies:
fox, google, news corp., paramount, viacom, youtube
by Mike Masnick
Mon, Feb 14th 2011 3:00pm
Filed Under:
movies, studios, youtube
Companies:
disney, viacom, warner bros.
Evidence Suggests Major Film Studios Uploading Movie Clips To YouTube... Pretending To Be Pirated
from the but-of-course dept
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Oct 21st 2010 1:58pm
Filed Under:
ad firms, copyright, studios, third parties
Companies:
disney, triton media, warner bros.
Ad Firm Pays Up To Studios, Promises Not To Work With 'Pirate' Sites Any More
from the what's-the-legal-basis dept
However, THREsq is now reporting that Triton has settled the lawsuit, paying $400,000 and agreeing not to provide ad services to those sites or to similar sites. THREsq claims the studios "won" the case, but a settlement does not mean a win. It just means Triton realized it was cheaper to settle than to fight two of the biggest studios with deep pockets.
Of course, Triton is a side show. The real question is if anyone will go after Google for something like this. There's been an increase in bitching from copyright holders lately that Google ads appear on various sites, and that Google "profits from piracy." Of course, that's not an accurate statement at all, but it's grown in popularity among some lately. The fact that Triton settled may seem like good news for the studios, but without an actual court ruling on such a tortured fourth party liability claim, it seems like they're still a long way from being able to confidently bring such claims. The settlement news may be useful in scaring some other smaller advertising firms, but I'd be surprised if the studios jumped all the way to accusing Google right now. Google, I would assume, would push back hard, and has the legal resources to do so.
by Mike Masnick
Mon, Aug 2nd 2010 4:36am
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, isps, secondary liability, studios
Appeal Of Important iiNet vs. AFACT Case Begins
from the rehearing-the-same-thing dept
Not surprisingly, the movie studios and AFACT (the "anti-piracy" organization representing them) appealed the ruling, claiming that somehow the lack of stopping copyright infringement was effectively "authorizing" copyright infringement. That seems like a huge stretch, but the appeal has begun and AFACT is now trying to make the case that not blocking users or kicking them off is the equivalent of authorization. Hopefully the appeals court recognizes the wisdom of the lower court ruling.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Feb 25th 2010 4:53am
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, isps, secondary liability, studios
And Of Course: AFACT Appeals iiNet Ruling
from the the-fight-goes-on dept
"The court found large scale copyright infringements, that iiNet knew they were occurring, that iiNet had the contractual and technical capacity to stop them and iiNet did nothing about them."But that actually ignores both reality and what the ruling said. What it found was that, indeed, large scale infringement was occurring, but that it was impossible for iiNet to be an effective copyright cop since copyright infringement was something for the court to decide, not for some ISP to just guess. Either way, this case won't be over for quite some time...
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Feb 10th 2010 4:53am
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, isps, secondary liability, studios
Australian ISP Stops Kicking People Off The Internet Following iiNet Ruling
from the evidence-needed dept
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Feb 5th 2010 6:45am
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, government, isps, secondary liability, studios, three strikes
Copyright Industry Responds To iiNet Ruling By Asking For Gov't Bailout; Aussie Gov't 'Studying' It
from the expected,-but-not-cool dept
Of course, this just shows how far gone AFACT and its members (Hollywood studios mainly) are out of touch with what this ruling is saying. The ruling points out, quite clearly, that the problem isn't with the law and it's not with the technology. Changing the law doesn't fix things. The problem is with how the big movie studios have failed to adapt, and are now blaming totally blameless parties for their own failures. The proper response is: "Okay, it's time to come up with better business models." It's not to ask the government to artificially blame a third party that had nothing to do with the infringement. It's really a rather stunning statement of incompetence that any industry thinks the cure to their own business model failures is to legally make an innocent third party responsible.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Feb 4th 2010 10:22am
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, isps, secondary liability, studios, three strikes
Companies:
iinet
Decision In iiNet Case Explains Why ISPs Cannot Effectively Be Copyright Cops
from the fantastic-ruling dept
Regardless of the actual quality of the evidence gathering of DtecNet, copyright infringement is not a straight 'yes' or 'no' question. The Court has had to examine a very significant quantity of technical and legal detail over dozens of pages in this judgment in order to determine whether iiNet users, and how often iiNet users, infringe copyright by use of the BitTorrent system. The respondent had no such guidance before these proceedings came to be heard. The respondent apparently did not properly understand how the evidence of infringements underlying the AFACT Notices was gathered. The respondent was understandably reluctant to allege copyright infringement and terminate based on that allegation. However, the reasonableness of terminating subscribers on the basis of non-payment of fees does not dictate that warning and termination on the basis of AFACT Notices was equally reasonable. Unlike an allegation of copyright infringement, the respondent did not need a third party to provide evidence that its subscribers had not paid their fees before taking action to terminate an account for such reason.Furthermore, the court found that it's troubling to have ISPs cutting off users based on accusations, without a court weighing in on the actual details:
One need only consider the lengthy, complex and necessary deliberations of the Court upon the question of primary infringement to appreciate that the nature of copyright infringements within the BitTorrent system, and the concept of 'repeat infringer', are not self-evident. It is highly problematic to conclude that such issues ought to be decided by a party, such as the respondent, rather than a court. Copyright infringement is not a simple issue. Such problems as identified are not insurmountable, but they do weigh against a finding that the respondent could conclusively decide that infringement had occurred and that it had the relevant power to prevent by warning, suspension or termination of subscriber accounts, even if it had the technical capability to do so.These arguments are important, though often brushed aside as meaningless by supporters of turning ISPs into copyright cops or expanding the concept of contributory or secondary liability for copyright. They claim "but of course people know what's infringing," when the truth is it's not that easy. A third party has little way of knowing whether or not content was released on purpose, or if it's use is fair use. Those sorts of things require a sophisticated legal analysis, done in a court -- not by the copyright holder with a demand that the ISP take action. It's great that this court recognized this issue clearly, and hopefully others will start to follow suit.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Feb 3rd 2010 3:19pm
Filed Under:
australia, copyright, isps, secondary liability, studios
iiNet Wins! AFACT Has To Pay. Australian Court Says ISPs Not Responsible For Infringing Users
from the good-news dept
They send us a list of IP addresses and say 'this IP address was involved in a breach on this date'. We look at that say 'well what do you want us to do with this? We can't release the person's details to you on the basis of an allegation and we can't go and kick the customer off on the basis of an allegation from someone else'. So we say 'you are alleging the person has broken the law; we're passing it to the police. Let them deal with it'.The company claimed further that based on Australian law, its customers actually weren't violating copyright law in trading files directly, since the law only covered distributing content "publicly" and a one-to-one trade is not "public." Furthermore, it argued that the studios' demand that it monitor its customers activities would violate Australia's telecom act and violate users' privacy rights.
Not surprisingly, a lot of folks have been waiting for the verdict and it's in! The court has ruled in favor of iiNet, saying that just because it provides access, it does not mean it is a party to infringement. Not only that, the court has told AFACT, the Australian anti-piracy organization that handled the case, that it needs to pay iiNet's legal fees. The ruling looks fantastic. Some snippets from the ITnews article linked above:
"I find that iiNet simply can't be seen as approving infringement," said Justice Cowdroy.This is a huge victory for those who believe that the efforts by copyright holders to push secondary liability on ISPs is a very dangerous policy. It's great to see the court get this one right.
Justice Cowdroy found iiNet users had infringed copyright by downloading films on BitTorrent, but he found that the number of infringers was far less than alleged by AFACT.
More importantly, Justice Cowdroy said that the "mere provision of access to internet is not the means to infringement".
"Copyright infringement occured as result of use of BitTorrent, not the Internet," he said. "iiNet has no control over BitTorrent system and not responsible for BitTorrent system."
The fact worldwide piracy was rife "does not necessitate or compel a finding of authorisation, just because it is felt there is something that must be done", he said.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Dec 30th 2009 10:21pm
Filed Under:
dvds, hollywood, movies, studios
Companies:
netflix
Movie Studios Pissed Off At Netflix, Don't Want To Allow More Streaming Movies
from the this-will-not-end-well dept
This really shouldn't be a huge surprise. After all, this is Hollywood, where reports that actually show that the movie industry will grow quite a bit in the next decade are also used to claim that rental services like Redbox and Netflix are killing off jobs. It's also the world where Hollywood execs still think that the answer to their problems (problems like its best box office year ever) is to just add more release windows. It's as if they still think that keeping content away from people makes them more likely to buy.





