by Mike Masnick
Mon, Feb 28th 2011 9:41am
Filed Under:
farms, florida, intellectual property, photographs
Let's Play A Game: Anarchist Or Photo Op?
from the take-your-pic dept

by Mike Masnick
Wed, Oct 20th 2010 10:39am
Filed Under:
english heritage, photographs, stonehenge, uk
English Heritage Organization Claiming It Holds Effective Copyright On Any And All Photos Of Stonehenge
from the stoned-henge dept
One recipient of the letter, the site FotoLibra, is trying to figure out on what legal basis English Heritage is making this claim, noting that Stonehenge "has been their responsibility for 27 of the monument's 4,500 year old history." Of course, just about the only thing this will probably serve to do is make people a lot less interested in visiting Stonehenge, photographing Stonehenge and getting others to go to Stonehenge.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Sep 16th 2010 7:33am
Filed Under:
copyright, photographs, social mores
Companies:
groupon
Groupon Photographer Caught Pretending Others' Photos Were Her Own... Group Pile On Fixes, Rather Than Copyright Law
from the well,-look-at-that dept
Over in Atlanta, the deal for Wednesday was supposed to be a $65 1-hour photography session with a photographer named Dana Dawes. If you follow the comment thread on the deal, Dawes is quite responsive for the first few answers, working over time to answer any questions she can. Somewhere in the middle, however, someone notes that it appears that photographs on Dawes' website portfolio appear to be slightly edited versions of others' photographs (with a Dawes watermark added to them). Some of the photographs are traced back to their original photographer, and then the thread goes somewhat crazy, with lots of folks calling Dawes out, yelling at GroupOn for allowing this, and people demanding refunds. Dawes tries to defend herself for a while, but doesn't do a very good job -- sometimes claiming that she's taken photos in Europe (which is something of a non sequitur) and then later trying to blame a webmaster for causing the problem (though, others point out that the same photos appear on her Facebook page as well).
Eventually, Groupon closed down the deal and refunded everyone's money, which makes sense.
But, of course, what struck me most was, yet again, how the group dynamics and social mores solved this issue in the course of just a couple of hours. Many photographers can be notoriously pro-copyright (and, frankly, when I've discussed photography issues, pro-stronger copyright photographers have often been the most... aggressive in angrily commenting here on Techdirt) and there are a few "that's copyright infringement!" claims in the thread from photographers. And while it's true that some of these may be copyright infringement, the bigger issue for most isn't the infringement, but the passing off of others' photographs as if they were Dawes' own. It's the difference between "plagiarism" and "infringement," to some extent. For example, say that Dawes had actually taken many of these photographs, but had assigned the copyright to others. In such a scenario, I would imagine most Groupon users wouldn't have been that offended if she posted such photos to her portfolio to demonstrate her work. Instead, the issue that gets people upset is the passing off of the photos as her own, which is separate from the copyright issue.
But, in the end, it wasn't copyright that fixed the situation, it was the overall social pressure of the group. In exposing what appears to have been a passing off of others' works, users quickly started demanding refunds, warning others, and alerting Groupon administrators to kill the deal and automatically issue refunds. And this wasn't a case of some hugely well-known photographer being copied either. In our last post, some insisted that social mores only work when the wronged party is well-known, ignoring just how much the internet will amplify the message of someone who has been wronged.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that such situations can backfire. You can certainly envision scenarios where social mores border on "mob rule" -- and pitchfork wielding mobs have certainly been known to make a mistake or two over the years. But at some point, people need to recognize that there are many other methods for dealing with these sorts of issues than immediately falling back on "copyright infringement!"
Man Arrested In India For Photographing Woman In A Public Place & 'Insulting Her Modesty'
from the privacy? dept
According to the police, the act of taking a photograph of a woman without her consent amounts to "intruding upon her privacy". An officer said: "The woman concerned has mentioned in her complaint that she had objections to (the person) taking her photograph. So we arrested him," an officer said.The article quotes a lawyer who suggests this case is a slam dunk... as well as another who said there's no way the case gets anywhere, as there's nothing wrong with taking a photo of someone in a public place.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Aug 25th 2010 6:43pm
Filed Under:
ansel adams, copyright, negatives, photographs, trademark
Ansel Adams Trust Sues Guy Claiming To Have Found Long Lost Adams' Negatives For Selling Prints
from the copyright-or-trademark? dept
Either way, it appears that Norsigian has barged forward with a plan to sell prints from the negatives, and reader Tom sends over the news that the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust is now suing him for it. While I haven't seen the actual lawsuit, the reporting on it notes that it covers: "trademark infringement, false advertising, trademark dilution, unfair competition and other claims." Missing from the list? Copyright. Making a copyright claim would be tantamount to admitting that they believed the images were legit. The Trust does make an argument that could leave it open to a copyright claim down the road, should the negatives be declared from Adams', but it may somewhat undermine their own argument in that:
The lawsuit further says that even if they were Adams' negatives, the prints and posters being created from them aren't the photographer's works, "but are derivative works at best."While derivative works can be infringing, by saying they're "derivative at best," you could make an argument that such prints are fair use transformative works, rather than copies -- though it might not fly.
"Mr. Adams was fond of likening a negative to a composer's score and the prints to its performance -- each performance differs in subtle ways," the lawsuit said. "The photographic prints and posters offered for sale by defendants ... are not an Ansel Adams 'performance.' "
Either way, I can't see any legal way that Norsigian can sell these prints: if they're not Adams', then calling them Adams' opens himself up to all those charges in the case, with false advertising being a big one. If they actually are Adams' negatives, then he has no copyright on them and again should not be able to sell them.
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Aug 20th 2010 4:14pm
Filed Under:
free speech, journalism, news, photographs, prior restraint
Appeals Court Overturns Judge's Ban On LA Times Printing Photo Of Murder Suspect
from the prior-restraint dept
Oscar Winner Sues BBC & CBS For Copyright Infringement Of His Photo
from the something's-missing dept
However, the article also notes that Psihoyos has sued a bunch of times in the past over this photo as well. For example, a year ago, he sued Apple for the second time over this photo. While that lawsuit was eventually settled, the details suggest that Psihoyos was barking up the wrong tree on that lawsuit. It wasn't a case of Apple using the image, but a random iPhone app developer. You would think that Apple would have a clear DMCA safe harbor response, which would protect it from such a lawsuit, so I'm a bit surprised they ended up settling.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Jul 28th 2010 2:32pm
Filed Under:
ansel adams, copyright, negatives, photographs
Can Man Who Found Long Lost Ansel Adams Glass Negatives Sell Prints?
from the copyright-conundrum dept
It could be a while before he sees the profits from the sale of prints from the negatives, but Streets estimates over the next 25 years it could mean over $200 million for Norsigian.Ken wondered about that statement, since there may be some copyright issues here, and as far as I can tell, he's right. I can't see how Norsigian has any legal right to sell the prints at all -- though, perhaps some copyright scholars could chime in. The works are estimated to have been made in the 1920s, which could actually complicate things. However, from all of the indications, none of these works were "published," and as the handy dandy public domain tracker notifies us, unpublished works are given a copyright of "life of the author +70 years." Ansel Adams died in 1984, so it would appear that the copyright on the images would likely belong to his heirs, and will last until 2054.
Now, if the works were published (which seems unlikely) then it gets a bit complicated. If they were done before 1923 (and no one's exactly sure of the date on most of these negatives), then they're in the public domain. If they were done after 1923 and weren't registered at the Copyright Office then, again, they're in the public domain. If that's the case, then Norsigian actually could make prints, but once those prints were out there, others could most likely copy the prints and sell competing prints themselves legally, which could put a damper on the $200 million. Of course, there then could be things Norsigian could do, such as specially "branding" his prints in some manner, but it's a bit trickier.
If the works were published after 1923, registered at the Copyright Office and had that registration renewed, then they should retain the initial copyright until 95 years after publication, meaning, until at least 2018 (and, again, most likely remaining with Adams' heirs). But, if that were the case, it seems unlikely that these negatives would have been considered "lost," though it is possible.
And, for those of you wondering, no, owning the negatives does not give you the copyright on the images, even if that creates a weird situation where someone who owns a bunch of negatives might not legally be able to use those negatives (yay, copyright law!).
The most likely scenario remains the first one, which would suggest Norsigian might actually get into legal trouble for making prints. And, in fact, the managing director of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust, Bill Turnage, first says that Norsigian's claims are a "fraud" and he's actually considering suing over Norsigian's use of Ansel Adams' name for commercial purposes (the article claims "copyrighted name," but I believe the AP reporter gets that wrong -- at best there may be a publicity rights claim under California state law). Of course, that puts another twist on the situation as well. If the Adams' heirs deny the prints are Adams, but they've been authenticated as Adams', then could the Adams' heirs still then make a copyright claim on any prints? That could be fun.
Of course, Adams himself, were he alive, might find the whole debate amusing. As the article notes (and which is well known among followers of Adams):
"Ansel interpreted the negative very heavily. He believed the negative was like a musical score. No two composers will interpret it the same way," he said. "Each print is a work of art."In other words, if Norsigian does make prints, they wouldn't be considered the same thing as a true Ansel Adams print. It might be more like a high school orchestra performing Beethoven.
Still, from a copyright perspective, there may be a very interesting legal battle brewing...
by Mike Masnick
Mon, Jul 26th 2010 7:24am
Filed Under:
alphonse mucha, copyright, photographs, public domain
How Is It That New Copyrights Are Being Claimed On Work Done By An Artist Who Died 70 Years Ago?
from the abusing-the-system dept
I was reading that the copyright has expired on Mucha's works. What does that mean in practical terms? Does it mean that anybody can, I don't know, create a mouse pad with his images on it?That sounded wrong to our reader, who questioned how that could make sense, seeing as Mucha has been dead for over 71 years. Now, I'm certainly no expert on Czech copyright law, so anyone out there who is an expert, feel free to chime in. But I'm assuming that the situation is similar to one that we discussed a year ago. In the US, thanks to Bridgeman vs. Corel, it is mostly believed that a photograph of a copyrighted work does not receive a new copyright (technically, it only applies in the court where the ruling was made, but the ruling has been followed by other US courts as well). However, in Europe, I believe the question is more or less unsettled -- so many claim that a photograph of a work can itself get a new copyright.
"It means that the rights are in the public domain, with two exceptions. Exception one are works that have not yet been photographed or seen. And there are quite a few of those. There, once we photograph them or we make the images available, those images have their own copyright.
"The other exception is, we have the biggest and possibly best quality archive of all the images. Because these images were created within the last five years with the latest technology, they all have their own copyright of 75 years.
This seems silly, if you think about it. Copyright is supposed to cover the creative work added. Photographs, in general, are given copyright protection on the basis of the idea that the composition involved some creative choices (framing, lighting, aiming, etc.). In fact, the copyright is technically supposed to just cover those creative choices. A direct photograph of an artwork involves no such creative questions. However, as it is "unsettled" law in Europe, then some like to claim that photographs of artwork create brand new copyrights. That seems to be what the younger Mucha is claiming here, though assuming this issue hasn't clearly been settled in the Czech Republic (and I can find no detailed info either way), then such a "new" copyright on a work so old could, conceivably, be challenged.





