Record Labels Angry That Hadopi Isn't Kicking People Off The Internet Fast Enough
from the pick-up-the-pace dept
Think about how many mistakes are being made when you're sending 50,000 notices per day. Over the course of about five years, the RIAA apparently sued less than 20,000 people -- and still made a lot of mistakes. US Copyright Group got a lot of attention for accusing a few thousand people of file sharing particular movies -- and also appears to have made a lot of mistakes. Yet, here, with Hadopi, the labels are accusing 50,000 people per day, and are upset that Hadopi isn't just rubber stamping all the notices? It appears that the record labels don't care at all about what happens if they accuse totally innocent people.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Sep 23rd 2010 12:18pm
Filed Under:
business models, labels, music, sufjan stevens, value
Companies:
asthmatic kitty
Label Complains That Amazon Devalues Artists By Making Music Cheap
from the you-got-it-backwards dept
I operate under the conviction that people buy records because they want to own them, not because they want to hear them. It is too easy these days to hear a record without having to buy it. I don't resent that fact, rather I feel we at Asthmatic Kitty embrace it through streaming albums and offering several free mp3s (even whole free albums). And why do they want to own it? They want it to illustrate to others their taste and identify who they are as a person. I also believe they want to be part of something bigger than themselves, they want to belong.Apparently, however, they do resent Amazon for making music available cheaply. Reader Colin points us to a recent article about how Asthmatic Kitty has sent out a letter to fans of artist Sufjan Stevens, complaining that Amazon's pricing is too low and asking people to go to Bandcamp and pay more instead. They do admit to being somewhat conflicted about this, at least:
Our job is no longer to sell folks things they want to hear. They want an experience and to identify themselves as part of a community. Ownership then becomes a way of them supporting your community through investing in that community. Fostering that in an honest, transparent and "non-gross" way takes a combination of gracefulness, creativity and not taking oneself too seriously, while still taking art and music seriously.
"We have mixed feelings about discounted pricing," the label explained.While they're certainly not attacking Amazon or fans, the whole email does feel a little off. The simple fact is, if people want the music (as the label seemed to recognize last year), they can find it somewhere for free. Amazon's prices are meaningless when it comes to the "value" of the music. Price and value are not the same thing. Rather than complaining about the price that Amazon sets on the album, why not give people additional reasons to pay directly at Bandcamp -- such as providing valuable extras if they do. Or discounts on other merchandise. There are all sorts of positive ways to get people to find it worthwhile to spend money without making them feel guilty and bad for paying a price that is legitimately offered by a retailer.
"Like we said, we love getting good music into the hands of good people, and when a price is low, more people buy. A low price will introduce a lot of people to Sufjan's music and to this wonderful album. For that, we're grateful.
But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth more than a cost of a latte. We value the skill, love, and time they've put into making their records. And we feel that our work too, in promotion and distribution, is also valuable and worthwhile."
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Jul 15th 2010 1:12pm
Filed Under:
business models, labels, musicians
Companies:
tunecore
Don't Dismiss Musicians Who Forge Their Own Path
from the subjectivity dept
80 percent of all records released are just noise -- hobbyists. Some companies like TuneCore are betting on the long tail because they get the same $10 whether you sell one copy or 10,000. Who uses Photobucket and Flickr? Not professional photographers -- those are hobbyists, and those are the people who are using TuneCore and iTunes to clutter the music environment with crap, so that the artists who really are pretty good have more trouble breaking through than they ever did before.As I noted in my original post on the interview, I thought Silverman was making a big mistake in dismissing those "hobbyists," since a bunch of them seemed to be making a decent living -- and the numbers were growing. I also found the "crap" comment to be pretty obnoxious. We see that type of comment here all too often. We'll point to some unique content creator who is doing something impressive, and the response (often from angry industry insiders) is that "yeah, but the content is crap." It's a funny sort of reaction. It's as if these people are so afraid that others with better business models will drive them out of business that they need to pre-emptively mock the quality -- even if the content seems to be exactly what a certain market is looking for. There are lots of content creators that we talk about whose content I don't personally care for. But my personal opinion on the quality of the content is meaningless. It's a question of personal tastes, and if there's an audience for the content, then, clearly something's working right.
I wasn't the only one who felt that the "cluttering with crap" comment was out of line. TuneCore's Jeff Price (who has been having quite a back-and-forth with Silverman lately) issued quite the sarcastic apology, while mocking the idea that only Silverman gets to decide what is quality music:
We're sorry that the fact that people are buying music from TuneCore Artists is stopping people from buying music that Tommy likes. If Tommy could only control what music you get exposed to you would be more inclined to buy his music. It's actually a brilliant strategy: limit choice, force the releases you want to sell down people's throats, control what music is exposed by the media outlets (like radio and MTV) and then take all the money from the sales that come in. Oh wait, my mistake, that's the way it was in the old music industry, and 98% of what the majors labels released failed. I guess limiting choice does not make music sell.Price also points out that Silverman's claim that this is "clogging" the market is ridiculous. It's not like people can't find what they want. If that's a problem, it's a problem of filters, not a problem of too much music. I tend to listen to some fairly obscure music in some specific genres, and sure there are acts in those areas that I don't think are very good, but it's pretty easy to quickly figure out who is good and who is not and move on. Claiming that "bad" artists somehow hurt good artists is ridiculous. You hear it all the time in various industries, but it's the same silly story all over again. More content creators don't take anything away from good content creators. Good content creators can and do still thrive.
by Mike Masnick
Tue, Mar 9th 2010 1:55pm
Filed Under:
isps, labels, lockdown, music, streaming
Companies:
bpi, universal music
Record Labels Put Out Misleading Study Trying To Get ISPs To Setup Broken Music Streaming Services
from the neutrality? dept
The problem, of course, is that the ISPs want to offer music services that people would actually use, and the record labels want to handicap the services to the point at which they're completely lame. So there's a bit of a stalemate there.
But the bigger issue is (reading between the lines here) what the record labels are really saying to ISPs here is: break net neutrality. That's because they're not talking about just any music service. After all, there are lots of music services out there that people can sign up for no matter who their ISP is. But what the labels seems to be suggesting here is that ISPs specify one special music service that locks in customers. That's why the report highlights that a music service can "reduce churn." Of course, the only way it does that is if it's locked to that single ISP -- and if your music is limited to you only as long as you're with that ISP. In other words: locking it down so that it's lame.
As if to make the point even stronger, though, BPI blatantly tells ISPs to break neutrality:
"It's increasingly clear that it isn't smart to be a 'dumb pipe'. This report shows that the revenue potential of digital music services alone makes sound economic sense for ISPs," said BPI Chief Executive, Geoff Taylor.Being a "dumb pipe" of course is a well-known code-word in the internet world for a neutral network. So, really what the labels seem to be suggesting here is that ISPs break network neutrality for the purpose of serving up a preferred music service that locks you into that ISP. Apparently, no one who put together the study contemplated the fact that this might piss people off and make them look for ISPs that don't lock them in. Thankfully, it appears that some ISPs aren't biting:
"TalkTalk thanks the BPI for its strategic business advice. Though some may question the value of such insight from an industry which has failed to acknowledge the impact of new technology on its own business models and is pressing the Government to criminalise its biggest customers," a spokesperson told TorrentFreak.Exactly. If the record labels were really serious about helping ISPs offer up music services, they wouldn't be blocking them at every turn. This report is a typical red herring.
by Mike Masnick
Tue, Mar 2nd 2010 12:43pm
Filed Under:
civil lawsuits, file sharing, indie labels, labels, spain, suing fans
Spanish Indie Labels To Sue The Gov't For Not Stopping File Sharing
from the that's-one-strategy dept
But it's not just the big entrenched players. Reader Tor sends over the troubling news that a group of indie labels in Spain are suing the government for "negligence" in failing to stop file sharing. Specifically, they're really upset about the rulings that have found personal, non-commercial file-sharing is legal. They want the right to sue their biggest fans. Apparently, they haven't been paying attention to how that's worked (i.e., it hasn't) elsewhere:
"The measure would not resolve the most relevant problem, which is the actual impossibility of us taking civil action against those final users who appropriate music without paying, and systematically violate intellectual property rights," he adds.This is pretty disappointing. Last year, I actually bought a bunch of CDs (yes, physical CDs) from an indie label in Spain that I only heard about after a friend sent me some MP3s suggesting I might like a couple of the bands on the label. After checking out their websites (and being able to listen to some of the songs) I ended up ordering a bunch of CDs from the label. Just last week, I bought two more albums (downloads, via CDBaby) from the same label. Yet, according to these labels (and I can't tell if the label whose CDs I purchased is part of the lawsuit), they would have been better off suing my friend. Indie labels should be leading the way here: focusing on giving fans real reasons to buy, rather than suing the government for not putting up more protectionist barriers to pretend it can hold back what the technology allows.
"We think the Administration is responsible for our plight," says Carton. "We demand that the government take effective measures imminently to protect the rights and interests of the record industry, as well as the intellectual property rights of the agents that intervene in the creative musical process within Internet."
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Jan 20th 2010 10:41pm
Filed Under:
business models, labels, music industry, wiggles
Wiggling Their Way To Musical Success Without A Label
from the it's-not-needed dept
The model for nearly everything we do is self-financed. We own everything and create it ourselves.While it sounds like, early on, the band handled the business on an ad hoc basis, they later got help from some business managers who have helped to guide the band's strategies over the years.
We wanted to keep financial and creative control. The Cockroaches' record label had taken some control over their work, and we wanted to avoid that type situation. With our background, we know what's good for children and what's best for The Wiggles. No one else had done what we were doing.
Of course, as with all of these examples, someone will certainly pop up in the comments and complain that there's nothing new or different about this story. And that's true. But that's the point. All of this could have been done years before, but it was much more difficult. What modern technology has done is made it much easier for musicians to control their own destiny, if they decide that's what they want to do.
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Dec 4th 2009 3:02pm
Filed Under:
copyright, digital economy bill, labels, peter mandelson, three strikes, uk
Companies:
bpi, ifpi, pure mint
UK Record Label Boss Resigns From BPI/IFPI Committees Due To Mandelson's Digital Economy Bill
from the speak-with-your-feet dept
Hall believes the proposed legislation has been rushed in a bid to get it through parliament before the next General Election, that it is in danger of disregarding some sacred legal principles (regarding process, presumption of innocence and burden of proof) and that it won't solve the record industry's piracy problems anyway.
In his resignation letter to the BPI, Hall writes: "I have enjoyed contributing to both [the BPI's] Rights [Committee] and the [IFPI's] ILC, but increasingly feel that my contributions are falling on deaf ears as an agenda has already been reached that I now consider is unmovable. As you know, I do not think the Digital Economy Bill is a sensible or well thought out piece of legislation. In my view it is being rushed through the last months of a parliament of an unpopular government and it is not legislation that I support".
Referencing clause 17 - the one that gives senior ministers the right to change copyright laws on whim - he continued: "I am particularly surprised that the record industry has chosen to endorse s.17 of the DEB, which I consider is wholly undemocratic and contrary to centuries of good practice regarding the forming of our copyright legislation. I also believe it may set a dangerous precedent going forwards (and could come back to haunt the industry)".
by Mike Masnick
Tue, Aug 4th 2009 8:17am
Filed Under:
blue scholars, business models, labels, music
Companies:
duck down
Yet Another Music Business Model: Label Signs With A Band
from the fantastic dept
When I've pointed that out, however, some have responded that this just means I want the same status quo as before. But, again, that's incorrect. The way things used to be, was that the major record labels had all of the power. You basically had to sign a major record label deal to get anywhere, and since there are just a few majors, you were pretty limited -- and all of them took advantage of artists. They could do that because they had all the power, and they had a business model that only worked by putting ridiculous and oppressive terms on most artists, guaranteeing that few ever saw anything beyond their advances.
The big difference today? Thanks to new technologies and new avenues for both connecting with fans and transacting with them, the major labels don't have the same sort of power any more -- and artists can actually take back many of their rights, whether it's retaining the copyright on their songs, or negotiating deals that don't seem quite so much like indentured servitude.
And, in fact, we've been seeing more and more of that lately, with newer labels taking a much more innovative, musician-friendly, fan-friendly approach to things. Ian Rogers has a fascinating post that shows at least one situation, where the power structure has certainly shifted, as he read about how a label, Duck Down, had signed to Blue Scholars, a band. Note the direction. It wasn't that Blue Scholars had signed a label deal with Duck Down. Instead, Blue Scholars figured out a unique way to finance, promote and distribute its latest album. First, they did a deal with Seattle's Caffe Vita Coffee to finance the album, and to handle local distribution. The band is retaining all the rights to the music with control over how it's marketed and sold (and, they note, "given away"). Duck Down, though has been "hired" to help with the marketing.
This makes a lot of sense. Certainly record labels have a lot of experience and connections when it comes to marketing music and musicians. So leveraging those relationships makes a lot of sense. Giving up all control and rights just for that marketing expertise, on the other hand... makes less and less sense. So, no, I don't think record labels are going away. I still think there's plenty of room for them in the wider music ecosystem. But their role is changing, and the power shift is moving much more to artists and away from the labels. Some of the smart ones get it. But a few of the major labels certainly don't like this, which is why they fight so hard against the technology that's making this happen.
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Jun 19th 2009 11:42am
Filed Under:
accounting, dave stewart, eurythmics, labels, music
So Why Can't Major Record Labels Provide Accurate Accounting To Bands?
from the because-that-would-mean-paying-them-accurately dept
Dave Stewart, from the Eurythmics, has written an article for Billboard where he points out that any retailer in the world has access to amazingly detailed technology and tools to track transactions and settle details with credit card company merchant accounts. He notes how ridiculous it is that such systems have been available for nearly thirty years... and he still can't get an accurate transparent accounting of what a record label has sold.
In the past, the major labels could get away with this, because they were the only real game in town, if a band really wanted to get big. But that's changing. This, of course, is the major labels real concern over new innovations and technology. It's not piracy. It's that new technologies take away the biggest scam they've had going for ages: the ability to keep tons of money that never belonged to them. And that's changing. As Stewart notes:
In the future, all incoming revenue streams will be reported in real time, with transaction costs pre-defined and competitive with the market. In the old model, content distributors have been slow and/or reluctant to adopt new media. Distributors frequently take significant portions of creative control out of the hands of the artist, placing restrictions on format, functionality, interactivity and other components. Copyright controls inherently limit the models and methods of release and distribution of artist products. Digital distribution and rights management methods have failed to leverage technological and business advancements to serve consumer, artistic and corporate interests. With many distributors, the feedback loop on consumer usage is also limited. Buyer profiles, habits and usage patterns are not shared with artists, who are then forced to use other means (surveys, focus groups) to determine how their content is being received by the fan. Especially troubling is that, in many cases, artists are not entitled to any control over precisely what happens with their creative work, or to apply some of the new and innovative ideas in the digital landscape due to restrictions from rights holders. Digital media technologies for distribution, asset management, security and monetization have matured to the point that an easy-to-use, scalable, fully featured digital media gateway and financial tracking system is now possible and should be demanded by all artists.





