by Mike Masnick
Tue, Jul 5th 2011 9:26am
Filed Under:
antitrust, collusion, europe, wikileaks
Companies:
mastercard, paypal, visa, wikileaks
by Mike Masnick
Fri, May 27th 2011 4:21pm
Filed Under:
mobile payments, non-competes, osama bedier, payments, trade secrets
Companies:
ebay, google, paypal
PayPal Sues Google Over Mobile Payment Execs; Where's The Line Between Non-Competes & Trade Secrets
from the is-there-a-line? dept
What this really does is highlight the fuzzy line between "right to work" concepts and trade secrets. That's because California does have strong trade secret protections. But if an employee has a right to work... how do you remove any "trade secrets" from their previous job from their brain? There are some details -- including accusations of transferring confidential documents to a computer right before making the job switch -- that certainly look bad. But, on the whole, I tend to think these kinds of lawsuits are a waste of time. Focus on actually competing in the market, rather than suing competitors. Frankly, the world needs more payment solutions, and if there's some competition, then it should force all players to improve their game.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Mar 17th 2011 2:42pm
Filed Under:
one-click, patent
Companies:
acacia, amazon, apple, cordance, paypal, victoria's secret
The 'Other' One-Click Patent Holder Sues Apple, Paypal... And Victoria's Secret
from the are-they-hoping-to-get-paid-in-models? dept
Judge Lets Sony Go After PS3 Jailbreaker's PayPal Account
from the seriously? dept
PayPal Turns Bradley Manning Defense Account Back On; Claims It Was A Paperwork Problem
from the that's-not-what-they-said-originally dept
We recently placed a temporary limitation of the Courage to Resist organization’s PayPal account as they had not complied to our stated policy requiring non profits to associate a bank account with their PayPal account (for the vast majority of non-profits, this is not an issue).While it's good that they've done this, not all of this makes sense. Courage to Resist claims that they repeatedly asked for an explanation and for the specific policy that they had violated. If it was just a matter of associating an account with a bank account, why didn't PayPal just tell them that in the first place?
In a press release issued today, the Courage to Resist organization claimed that their resistance to follow our policy is because PayPal sought to withdraw funds from their checking account. To be clear: PayPal cannot take such action without the authorization of an account holder, nor does it ever take such unauthorized actions.
Upon review, and as part of our normal business procedures, we have decided to lift the temporary restriction placed on their account because we have sufficient information to meet our statutory 'Know Your Customer' obligations. The Courage to Resist PayPal account is now fully operational.
PayPal Cuts Off Account For Bradley Manning Support
from the going-into-evil-territory dept
The online payment provider PayPal has frozen the account of Courage to Resist, which in collaboration with the Bradley Manning Support Network is currently raising funds in support of U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning. PayPal was one way people--especially international residents--were able to contribute to the grassroots effort supporting the accused WikiLeaks whistleblower. "We've been in discussions with PayPal for weeks, and by their own admission there’s no legal obligation for them to close down our account," noted Loraine Reitman of the Bradley Manning Support Network (Support Network). "This was an internal policy decision by PayPal."The report also notes that they've had a PayPal account in good standing since 2006, with no problems at all. It's only once they were taking funds for Bradley Manning that PayPal shut them down. This is somewhat horrifying, frankly, and raises serious questions about PayPal as a business worth trusting.
[....] The Support Network repeatedly requested and was refused formal documentation from PayPal describing their policies in this matter.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Jan 19th 2011 2:47pm
Filed Under:
secondary liability, third party liability
Companies:
chitika, clicksor, enom, hotfile, liberty media, paypal
Third Parties Increasingly Targeted In Infringement Cases
from the getting-out-of-control dept
The first involves Liberty Media suing Paypal along with Hotfile (and 1,000 John Does) for alleged infringement. Hotfile is a cyberlocker, which has plenty of perfectly legitimate uses, but is also frequently used for infringement. Liberty Media walks through a complex set of relationships, which it seems to interpret in the most nefarious way possible. For example:
"Demonstrating that Defendant Hotfile.com is aware of the illegality of its conduct, it offers two methods for download services. For its first option, Defendant Hotfile.com permits its partners to download a stolen movie at a very slow transfer speed for no charge. The other option allows users to pay a premium to download the movie ten times faster."It certainly sounds bad when you put it like that, but of course, plenty of file storage/file transfer sites offer tiered packages that involve paying for faster transfer rates. That, in no way, demonstrates awareness of illegal content. I'm not saying Hotfile isn't potentially liable, but claiming the tiered pricing is evidence of that seems strange.
But it seems even worse that Liberty is suing PayPal as well -- and I would bet that PayPal will quickly file to be dismissed from the case, as an unrelated third party, or one protected by safe harbors. It's going to be quite a stretch for Liberty to prove that Paypal is somehow liable for the actions not just of a company that uses Paypal, but the users of that company. It's fourth or fifth party liability, rather than third party liability.
The other story involves a case that's a bit further along, where a judge has ordered a preliminary injunction against two ad providers and a domain registrar over a website that allegedly hosts infringing scans of various books. Since the holder of the domain is kept private via eNom's Whois Privacy Protection Service, the court ordered eNom to reveal the identity of the domain owner and to "disable the website." The judge also ordered the two ad networks -- Clicksor and Chitika -- to stop working with the site.
While I could see suing the John Does behind the site, and then working to get a subpoena to identify the real parties behind the alleged infringement, directly suing these three companies seems like a huge stretch, and it's disappointing that the judge rushed to issue the injunction so quickly. The original complaint (pointed out by Eric Goldman, makes some ridiculously broad claims about third party liability.
This is unfortunate, but not a surprise. We've been warning for the better part of a decade the problems with third party liability. Those who benefit from it will always push to stretch it to dump liability on third parties who had absolutely nothing to do with the actual infringement, and often had no idea that any infringement was going on. These payment companies, ad networks and registrars are quite far removed from any actual infringement. As noted above, they're barely "third parties" at all, as they're really fourth or fifth parties, so far removed from the actual infringement as to make these legal actions really quite questionable. It's hard to see how anyone can reasonably argue that a registrar or a payment processor or an ad network should somehow be liable for actions done by the users of a site that they work with. If this continues it will severely stifle many of these activities, as payment providers and ad networks won't do business with all sorts of perfectly legitimate sites, just to avoid the liability of being blamed for the actions of someone two steps removed.
by Mike Masnick
Wed, Dec 22nd 2010 10:59am
Filed Under:
hypocrisy, journalism, state secrets, wikileaks
Companies:
apple, mastercard, ny times, paypal, visa
Will Visa, MasterCard, Paypal, BofA & Apple Terminate Relationships With The NYTimes For Revealing Military Secrets?
from the consistency-is-all-i-ask dept
Indeed, the NYT reporters several times acknowledge that public awareness of these operations could trigger serious harm ("inside Pakistan, [] the movement of American forces has been largely prohibited because of fears of provoking a backlash"). Note, too, that Mazzetti and Filkins did not acquire these government secrets by just passively sitting around and having them delivered out of the blue. To the contrary: they interviewed multiple officials both in Washington and in Afghanistan, offered several of them anonymity to induce them to reveal secrets, and even provoked officials to provide detailed accounts of past secret actions in Pakistan, including CIA-directed attacks by Afghans inside that country.As he notes, all of this seems a lot more revealing than anything that Wikileaks has done, and a lot more likely to put people in danger. Yet, there's been almost no response, and certainly nothing like the attention paid to Wikileaks -- with calls for trials or even killing the head of Wikileaks. Seems odd, doesn't it?
But, an even bigger point is buried towards the end in an update, where Greenwald asks:
Why aren't Visa, MasterCard, Paypal, their web hosting company and various banks terminating their relationships with The New York Times, the way they all did with WikiLeaks: not only for the NYT's publication of many of the same diplomatic and war cables published by WikiLeaks, but also for this much more serious leak today in which WikiLeaks was completely uninvolved?And, I think, we can add Apple to that list. After all, if these companies keep claiming that Wikileaks "broke the law" (as most of the companies listed here are saying), why do they not feel the same way about the NY Times?
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Dec 17th 2010 1:00pm
Filed Under:
copyright, cut off, ip czar, isps, payment, pharmacies, victoria espinel
Companies:
google, mastercard, network solutions, paypal, visa
US IP Czar Gets Companies To Cut Off Unlicensed Online Pharmacies
from the borderline... dept
Together, the firms hope to tackle every link in the chain that keeps unlicensed pharmacies operating by stopping them showing up in search results, taking their websites offline, delisting the domains they use and stopping payments reaching them.Think COICA without COICA -- but just with government pressure on companies. Seeing Visa, Mastercard and Paypal on the list certainly isn't surprising, after those three already did the same thing in cutting off Wikileaks. However, it's a bit surprising to see Google agree to this (Update: Google says that it's only agreed to cut off advertising that violates its policies). If there's a trial and these sites are found guilty of violating the law, then I can see cutting them off -- but once again, it appears that this is the government trying to kill off websites, without a trial.
And, yes, it's for "unlicensed web pharmacies," and everyone plays up the spam and the fake (potentially dangerous) drugs. Those are a serious problem. But they also lump in the (quite common) grey market pharmacies as well -- which often allow people to get drugs from outside the country at much more affordable rates. Shutting down fake drug sellers is fine. Shutting down the grey market drug sellers is a bit of a bigger issue.
On top of that, given the recent ICE domain seizures and the whole COICA law -- both of which Espinel has spoken out in favor of -- it's not hard to see how the mandate behind this particular program is quite likely to grow well beyond "unauthorized web pharmacies" to other sites as well. In fact, MasterCard has apparently already agreed to cut off websites deemed "pirate" sites.
by Mike Masnick
Thu, Dec 9th 2010 6:20pm
Filed Under:
censorship, joe lieberman, sue collins, wikileaks
Companies:
amazon, mastercard, paypal, visa
Lieberman Praises Companies Helping Him Try To Censor Wikileaks
from the censorship-is-the-in-thing dept
"The WikiLeaks data dump has jeopardized U.S. national interests and the lives of intelligence sources around the world," Lieberman said, though there is no proof or even detailed allegations that the release has endangered any intelligence source.Lieberman apparently wants the world to believe that censorship is okay because "this is no time for business as usual." It appears that Lieberman really wants to go down in history as the Senator who favors censorship of the press and US companies. Quite a legacy.





