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Overhype

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
behavioral advertising, click tracking, clickstream, do not track, targeted advertising



Now Consumer Groups Want A 'Do Not Track' List

from the and-how-would-that-work-exactly? dept

While the "Do Not Call" list in the US has mostly been successful (with some glaring exceptions) in cutting down on intrusive telemarketing calls, it has kicked off a somewhat annoying trend for consumer groups to demand all sorts of other "Do Not X" lists. Popular for a while was the idea of a "Do Not Spam" list, which most folks realized would be almost impossible to administer. Now, some consumer groups are pushing for a similar "Do Not Track" list, following all of the recent stories about behavioral marketing and clickstream tracking. This list would, its proponents claim, let people opt-out of allowing advertisers to track them. Again, though, this idea would be nearly impossible to manage in real life. In most cases, advertisers have no real idea of who they're tracking anyway -- so it's difficult to see how one would "opt-out" of such data collection in the first place. It would seem that a much more efficient (and effective) solution is to just let the technology evolve to the point that users can block such tracking activities on their own. In many cases, that's already possible. On top of that, as companies like Phorm are discovering, the public outcry against even the possibility of doing something bad concerning clickstream tracking will hopefully keep these firms in check.

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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
new york, opt-in, permission, targeted advertising

Companies:
google, microsoft, phorm



NY Legislator Looks To Outlaw Behavioral Targeted Ads Without Opt-In

from the a-bit-late-for-that dept

A New York Assembly member is pushing to outlaw targeted advertising without opt-in approval. Given the scrutiny facing companies like Phorm in the UK, this isn't all that surprising. However, the complaints around Phorm are that it tracks all of your surfing activity and generates ads based on that aggregate info. The bill that is being discussed in New York would apparently apply to websites that do targeted advertising within the site. That seems both extreme and unnecessary. Even though the law would technically only apply to New York, since it would be difficult to figure out who's in NY and who's elsewhere, it would force many providers to get rid of targeted advertising. It seems a bit extreme to think that targeted advertising should be banned entirely, without an initial opt-in. By this point, most people probably expect basic targeting to take place, and when done right, such targeted ads should be more effective. The real problem comes in when such targeting presents a privacy violation, but the focus then should be on privacy laws, not specifically targeting a single activity such as targeted ads.

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Ramblings

Ramblings

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
advertising, creepy, personalized advertising, targeted advertising, uncanny valley



Where's The Line Between Personalized Advertising And Creeping People Out?

from the the-uncanny-valley-of-advertising dept

In robotics, there's a concept of the "uncanny valley," which suggests that people are comfortable with robots that clearly look like robots, but at a point where they become too similar to humans, but not actually human-like, the feeling makes people rather uncomfortable. However, if a robot appears fully human, then people go back to being comfortable with them -- even to the point of identifying with them and feeling empathy for them. It's that area where they're just a little too much like a human, but not quite there that makes people really uncomfortable. I'm beginning to wonder if there's a similar phenomenon with advertising. Perfectly targeted advertising could be quite useful -- and, in fact, that's the holy grail that advertisers always talk about. The problem, though, is that most personalized advertising isn't that well targeted, and it's reaching the point that it makes people rather uncomfortable.

Last week all the attention was on Phorm, the former adware company, now trying to work with ISPs to use your clickstream data to target ads better. While the company is aggressively defending its practices, it clearly makes people somewhat uncomfortable -- and all of the hubbub about the story has resulted in at least one ISP partner of Phorm to decide that it will only offer the program on an opt-in basis. That sounds good, though, as Broadband Reports notes, Phorm competitor NebuAd had promised that any of its ISP partners would clearly let customers know what it was doing with its targeted advertisements, and that doesn't appear to be happening.

All this has lead the NY Times to write an article about how much data is being tracked about you in order to target ads better. There's nothing particularly new or surprising (hopefully) in that article, but an even more interesting question is raised by the same author in a separate blog post, where she went and asked Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and AOL if they could create advertisements that incorporated the user's name in the advertisement as an attempt to personalize it. The answers are quite interesting, with very different levels of "could" and "would" responses from the various participants.

But the real issue with such ads are that they may be getting quite close to that "uncanny valley" of advertising. When the ads on a random page start saying "Hi, Mike, we think you'd like..." it reaches that level where it throws in your face just how much data is being collected about you, and I'd imagine that makes people quite uncomfortable. In some ways, this is part of what made people so damn uncomfortable with Facebook's Beacon program. It was making use of data in a very public way for supposedly more "personalized" ads. However, they ended up in that "creepy" valley between not very personalized and perfectly personalized where the ad is actually effective. For companies working on better ad targeting and more personalized ads, it's going to pay to be aware of this issue going forward.

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