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Wall Street

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
andy beal, banks, contrarian, economy, loans



The Contrarian Banker Who Avoided Bad Loans... And Is Now Buying Up The Scraps

from the no-gov't-money-needed dept

While we've wondered why those who made such bad bets on Wall Street are getting bailed out and even relied upon to save the economy, Forbes has found one of the guys who knew better: Andy Beal. A banker in Texas who basically stopped taking on any new loans for years as he thought things were going out of control. In fact, he barely worked at all -- stopping by just a few hours a day, playing board games with his staff, and even laying off about half of his employees. He did this while waiting for the market to collapse, knowing that things were way out of control. In return, he got investigated by regulators, who couldn't understand why he wasn't joining in the fun.

Of course, now that things have collapsed, he's buying up distressed assets for pennies on the dollar, and wants to buy more, planning to become a huge bank. Oh, and all that government money that's supposed to help those private companies who are buying up these assets? He doesn't qualify for most of it (no more than a token amount that's not even worth taking). Instead, it's really designed for the folks who screwed things up in the first place. This guy -- who actually saw what was going on, and prepared for it, now has to compete against those who screwed up and are being handed billions by the government.

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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
loans, p2p lending, securities law



Turns Out P2P Lending Might Run Afoul Of Securities Law As Well

from the oops dept

First off, a quick disclaimer. Lending Club has offices in the same building as Techdirt, and we're actually right across the hall from them. I'm also pretty good friends with some folks who work there (since even before they worked there), but I have no additional insight into what's going on at the company, other than that everyone I know there is very smart and capable. A few months back, we got into a discussion about attempts to take the peer-to-peer "lending" model and move it into venture funding. At the time, we pointed out that this would raise serious regulatory problems, as the public markets (regulated by the SEC) were already, effectively, a peer-to-peer venture capital system. However, at the time we didn't think too much about the regulatory implications of peer-to-peer lending itself -- and, unfortunately, it appears that Lending Club may not have either. Apparently, Lending Club has put all new lending activity on hold, as it needs to deal with certain regulatory matters.

The company won't provide any additional information on what's going on (even, I assume, to those of us across the hall), but the speculation is that its lending practices clearly fell on the wrong side of certain regulations, quite similar to the ones we discussed having to do with any attempt at a peer-to-peer venture offering. The Peer-Lend blog points to this analysis of the problem (though, that's for a competitor of Lending Club). Basically, the question is who owns the loan itself, and how is it transferred. Since the loan may be owned either by the company itself or by the lenders (the "peers") at some point the loan may be getting transferred around -- meaning that it's no longer a "loan" but a "security." And, as we know, securities are regulated. This could get even hairier as the government is suddenly quite concerned about "securtized" loans these days since (as you might have heard) some of the financial world's problems have something to do with such instruments. This certainly isn't a problem that just faces Lending Club. In fact, it's almost surprising that it happened to it first, rather than its larger competitors like Prosper and Zopa. In the meantime, though, it's a good reminder that while web 2.0 startups can enable a lot of neat things, the folks back in Washington DC still have plenty of power over what certain businesses can and cannot do.

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