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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
.com, antitrust, domain names, registry

Companies:
icann, verisign



Appeals Court Brings Back Lawsuit Over Possible Antitrust Violations Over .com Registry

from the this-could-get-interesting dept

For a long time, there have been accusations of questionable sweetheart deals by ICANN and whoever got to manage certain top level domains -- with no controversy bigger than the question of why VeriSign got to retain the .com and .net registries, and raise prices on it, without any opportunity for other providers to bid on the business (for the .com registry at least -- there was bidding on .net). There were also complaints about a secondary market for "used domains" that VeriSign was setting up. A non-profit group had sued VeriSign, saying that these were antitrust violations, but the district court had thrown out the case, saying that the group, called the Coalition for ICANN Transparency, failed to properly state its case (despite having an opportunity to amend the original filing). However, an appeals court has reversed the lower court, and will allow the lawsuit to proceed, which could mean problems for VeriSign (and potentially cheaper domain name registrations).

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Too Much Free Time

Too Much Free Time

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
patents, sitefinder

Companies:
verisign



VeriSign Now Holds A Patent On SiteFinder

from the this-is-patentable? dept

Back in 2003, VeriSign kicked off quite a bit of controversy with its "SiteFinder" plans. SiteFinder would see that you were trying to go to a non-existent domain name, and rather than send you the proper error message, would send a bunch of ads instead. VeriSign, of course, claimed that this would be useful, as some of the ads might point you to where you really wanted to go. The problem, of course, was that it broke how the internet was supposed to work -- and certain applications relied on the fact that the internet would work the way it was originally designed. VeriSign eventually pulled the service, though others have reimplemented it, mostly at the ISP level rather than the DNS level. However, now, as Slashdot points out, it appears that VeriSign owns a patent on the concept. The patent was granted a few months ago, and VeriSign has control over it thanks to an acquisition. The real question, though, is why is this patentable? The reason it hadn't been done before wasn't because it was some great invention that needed the extra incentives of a patent -- it was because most people thought it was a bad idea.

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Scams

Scams

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
hijacking, page not found, phishing, vulnerability

Companies:
earthlink, verisign



Non-Existent Domain Hijacking Not Just Annoying, But A Security Threat

from the please-stop dept

Back in 2003, there was a huge mess over VeriSign's plan to create "SiteFinder," which effectively hijacked "page not found" messages online and inserted advertising instead. This also broke a bunch of online services that relied on accurate page not found messages. Eventually, VeriSign backed down, but over the last couple of years, ISPs have been starting to do the same thing on their own at a slightly different level in the process. However, some security researchers have demonstrated just how dangerous this can be, by using Earthlink's set up to show how it can be used by phishers to make pages look like they're really on someone else's domain. This particular hole has been patched, but it does demonstrate some of the unintended problems of hijacking a widely accepted standard behavior on the internet for the ISP's own purposes. The ISPs (including Earthlink in this case) always claim that they put up these ad pages as a "customer service" or to "improve their experience," but that's simply untrue. Such pages don't help matters. If a page can't be found, the user should be told that the page can't be found. They can do a search on a search engine themselves to find the proper page.

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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
copyright, news, scraping

Companies:
associated press, moreover, verisign



AP Sues VeriSign For Copyright Infringement; Mostly Pointless

from the what's-going-on-here? dept

The Associated Press is apparently suing VeriSign's Moreover for copyright infringement, though the details are woefully unclear (even in the AP version of the article). It's unclear if the complaint is over the fact that Moreover scrapes and links people to AP content, or if there's something else going on (Update below). If it is just that Moreover is pointing people to AP content, then this is quite ridiculous -- but most likely driven by the AP's ability to get Google to pay up for the same thing. The article hints that there may be a bigger problem with Moreover providing the full text of the content, but details are lacking. If it is true that Moreover provides the full text -- then they probably are violating the copyright. However, if that content is simply stored away for indexing purposes, and people are sent to legitimate AP sources, then it's hard to see how this is a copyright violation at all. If anything, it's the opposite -- pointing more people to AP content. The AP is also complaining that Moreover lists the AP as a news source on its site -- but that's just a petty complaint from the AP. Listing out news sources hardly is a violation of trademark. Hell, the AP is a "news source" for the content we write here on Techdirt all the time -- and there's nothing wrong with saying so. All in all, unless more details prove otherwise, this sounds like the AP continuing to struggle with the changing marketplace it's facing, and lashing out at one of the companies that helps deliver more traffic to AP content for not paying the AP for the privilege of promoting AP content.

Update: Rafat Ali from PaidContent stopped by in the comments to point to the full lawsuit documents, posted on his site. From there, it appears that the AP's lawsuit is mostly ridiculous, with just a little tiny bit of reasonable thrown in. Most of the claims are about the fact that Moreover is spidering and scraping AP news feeds, and providing both free and paid subscribers headlines and the opening lede. However, it's pretty difficult for the AP to make a copyright claim here, since those links are almost definitely fair use, especially since they point people to legitimate AP licensees. There's a little gray area where Moreover indexes and caches the articles on its own servers -- but Google has been doing that for years without much of a problem -- and if the AP is really upset about it, there's always the old robots.txt solution. The one area where the AP may have a claim (though, the evidence does not seem clear from the exhibits) is in saying that there are times when Moreover will show subscribers a full AP article hosted on its own servers, rather than passing them through to a licensee. If true, then that would likely be copyright infringement -- though the "damages" would be minimal, if anything. Finally, the claim that this is an AP trademark infringement by listing the AP as a news source seems laughable. All in all, the original assessment stands: this is the AP unable to adapt and lashing out at those who are helping to promote their content.

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Wall Street

Wall Street

by Joseph Weisenthal


Filed Under:
buybacks, credit crunch, leverage

Companies:
verisign



VeriSign Resolute On Buybacks Despite Warning Signs

from the double-down dept

The evolving credit crunch has forced some tech companies to to suspend plans to buyback their stock due to an inability to raise the necessary cash. Either way, you'd think that in light of current conditions, companies would be hesitant to leverage up by expanding their debt levels and removing some shares from the market. But current conditions don't seem to be much of a deterrent to some firms. VeriSign has announced the successful sale of $1.1 billion worth of convertible bonds with the proceeds earmarked for share repurchases. Although the move carries risk, Wall Street analysts tend to love this kind of move. One analyst lauded the announcement, claiming that VeriSign will now have a more "mature capital structure". The thinking is that VeriSign is a large company with slowing growth and so the quickest way to maximize returns is to take on debt and bet on itself. If the company executes well, then the move will look brilliant. But it leaves the company little to no margin for error should things not go exactly as planned.

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