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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
false marking, patents

Companies:
juniper



Do Patents On Your Website Make You Liable For False Marking?

from the mark-this dept

One of the things that tends to keep patent lawsuits in check between two larger competing companies is the "patent nuclear war" scenario -- which is that if one company sues the other for patent infringement, the latter company often can hit back with an equal number of infringement charges. Thus, the incentives are for companies to stockpile lots of patents, but not necessarily use them... though it does happen occasionally. While this may be seen as a net waste (spending on patents for the sake of stockpiling, rather than for any socially or economically useful purpose), at least it keeps the lawsuits in check. One of the big problems that many companies have with the rise of "non-practicing entities" who merely hold onto patents for the purpose of suing (the so-called "patent trolls"), is that this same deterrent doesn't work. That is, because these patent holders aren't making anything, there's nothing to countersue over. That leads to unequal power, and greater likelihood of litigation. In many ways (though, certainly not all), it's similar to terrorists attacking a large country whose army is designed to battle other armies from other countries. When hit by terrorists, the army isn't designed to fight back against a non-governmental army.

However, it looks like at least one company is attempting a rather novel way to try to hit back -- though it seems unlikely to work. Apparently Juniper was hit by a patent infringement lawsuit by a patent holder over some patents related to firewalls and intrusion detection. The individual who holds the patent happens to have a website where he lists his accomplishments, including the two patents. From that same website, the guy sells various services... and according to Juniper, by listing the patents and offering a service, the guy was implying the services that he offered were covered by those patents. However, the services aren't covered by the patents, so Juniper claims the guy is "false marking." This is a rule that forbids you from claiming a certain product is covered by a specific patent when it is not.

This seems like an incredible longshot, and the judge dismissed the first attempt to do this -- though Juniper has filed an amended complaint where it's trying this tactic again. Obviously, I'm not a fan of patent holders who try to stop actual innovators in the marketplace, but this counter-attack from Juniper doesn't make much sense, and hopefully, will get thrown out again as well.

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Predictions

Predictions

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
mobile tv

Companies:
juniper



The Ongoing Blind Belief In Mobile Broadcast TV

from the it's-gonna-be-huge...-except-that-it's-not dept

For years the big research companies have been putting out report after report after report claiming that mobile broadcast TV is going to be a huge moneymaker. However, there seems to be almost no real evidence to support this. In the 80s there was an attempt at mobile TV that went nowhere. Yet, the studies keep coming. The latest is from Juniper Research predicting that mobile-broadcast TV services will be a $6.6 billion market by the year 2012, which is very soon for a market that there are still a ton of questions around. This isn't to say that mobile video isn't an interesting service, but it's difficult to believe that the market for broadcast style TV is one that many people would ever pay for. There are many reasons why. First off, mobile users are quite often "on the go," meaning that they don't necessarily have the time or inclination to be watching broadcast TV programs. Instead, they're more likely to want to do mobile specific things -- short clip videos or videos that are more communication than content. Most importantly, however, it's difficult to believe that there's really money in mobile broadcast video because a combination of tools like TiVo and Slingbox mean that people aren't going to have to pay to watch what they want, when they want, where they want. I can already get mobile broadcast TV on my phone today -- thanks to a Slingbox and a smartphone with unlimited data. Why would I possibly pay more for it?

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