Leading VC: NSA's Activities Are 'Corroding Silicon Valley'

from the a-question-of-trust dept

Techdirt has already run a couple of stories about the longer-term damage the recently-revealed activities of the NSA are likely to have on the US computer industry. Bloomberg is reporting on how the growing distrust of US services is taking a new form:

Some companies are apparently so concerned about the NSA snooping on their data that they’re requiring — in writing — that their technology suppliers store their data outside the U.S.

In Canada, a pharmaceutical company and government agency have now both added language to that effect to their contracts with suppliers, as did a grocery chain in the U.K., according to J.J. Thompson, chief executive officer of Rook Consulting, an Indianapolis, Indiana-based security-consulting firm. He declined to name the companies, which are using Rook to manage the segmentation and keep the data out of the U.S.

Significantly, that was before Der Spiegel detailed the incredible range of backdoors and vulnerabilities that the NSA is able to exploit in key software and hardware. As well as being terrible news for our privacy and freedom, this is likely to have huge knock-on consequences for the US computer and communications industries. Even though many of the companies named in the Der Spiegel piece have been quick to deny that they had any knowledge of the backdoors, their products are now inevitably tainted by the suspicion that they are compromised, and therefore cannot be trusted.

Some worry that the damage runs even deeper than a few tarnished brands. For example, the well-respected investor Michael Dearing has written an excellent post expressing his fears that:

the NSA’s version of patriotism is corroding Silicon Valley. Integrity of our products, creative freedom of talented people, and trust with our users are the casualties. The dolphin in the tuna net is us — our industry, our work, and the social fabric of our community.

As he explains:

Billions of people let Silicon Valley into their daily lives and they hug it close. They trust our products to find information, to get work done, to talk to each other, to buy and sell stuff, and to have fun. That trust is a decades-old endowment built up by inventor-founders from Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore through to the present day. The magic of compound growth works in our favor when trust is accumulating. But now we are making trust withdrawals every day as people around the world learn how the NSA has woven surveillance, search, and seizure into and around our products. This is the painful flip side of compound growth: the trust withdrawals compound too.

Silicon Valley’s promise to people is simple and compelling: “We’ll build a bunch of things. Try our work; keep what you love, dump what you don’t love. We’ll learn from it and build on the stuff that you like best.” Sadly, the NSA undermines the promise at its foundation.

What that means is that the true cost of the NSA’s reckless and illegal attempts to “collect it all” and “get the ungettable” may turn out to be not “just” tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars in lost business, but the far more serious loss of trust in Silicon Valley itself.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Obligatory

Taking it out on (most) of the donors isn’t really the answer either.

If we have presidents from both parties (Bush, Obama, and maybe even earlier presidents) doing the exact same thing, then what option do us against the NSA’s illegal spying have in a 2 party system?

This is why lately I’ve fallen in love with parliamentary systems and wish the US would ditch congress and switch to a parliament, and also elect presidents like nations with a parliament do (with runoff elections).

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

Probably more a question of subcontractors of subcontractors of contractors of NSA doing the trading.

It is very hard to find a company 3 steps out that doesn’t have an indirect connection to NSA, so fake positives would make finding out if you are trading with NSA completely impossible…

It is thick irony for NSAs metadata minimisation system!

Anonymous Coward says:

I don’t like logging into Linkedin or Gmail anymore. I’m afraid I might be Quantum inserted, and I don’t like the sound of that.

I feel like my cellphone’s main function is to provide someone with a log of everyone I know, and everywhere I go. I’m concerned the microphone on my phone, or anyone’s phone, might be turned on and recording the conversations of everyone in the room.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

It is a good point. Security has always been a joke in the most used software.

Maybe we should thank NSA for, maybe inadvertently, exposing the all but safe systems in current generation software?

As long as they operate under the same conditions as hackers, I see no problem with their methods (You as a computer user should have used better software and the software developer should have fixed vulnerabilities faster etc. If you can keep out hackers, you can keep out NSA and vice versa).

The problems arise as soon as they actively promote extra holes or vulnerabilities, abuse more or less purposeful legal holes to minimize their minimization procedures or use companies as spies for gathering intel in friendly cooperating countries. Those abuses are the real problem.

btr1701 (profile) says:

Backwards?

Not sure I get why these companies and government think that putting a requirement for data storage outside the US is any kind of solution.

The only restriction on collection that the NSA has even acknowledged to exist– in theory, if not in practice– is that collection/spying on purely domestic data exchanges is not allowed. If it’s on foreign soil or in transit outside the borders of the US, it’s open season as far as the NSA is concerned.

Requiring data to be stored where the NSA feels it has no restrictions whatsoever as opposed to the one place it at least claims it’s not allowed to spy seems kinda backward to me.

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