Latest Leak: NSA Can Spy On Almost Anything, Gets To Set Its Own Filters

from the and-another-shoe-drops dept

And, here we go again. This time, it's the WSJ journal with the scoop on NSA surveillance, and how the defenders of the NSA have been lying to us. Despite claims that the NSA was really only focused on foreign communications, the WSJ is reporting that it actually covers 75% of US internet traffic:
The National Security Agency—which possesses only limited legal authority to spy on U.S. citizens—has built a surveillance network that covers more Americans' Internet communications than officials have publicly disclosed, current and former officials say.

The system has the capacity to reach roughly 75% of all U.S. Internet traffic in the hunt for foreign intelligence, including a wide array of communications by foreigners and Americans. In some cases, it retains the written content of emails sent between citizens within the U.S. and also filters domestic phone calls made with Internet technology, these people say.
Basically, they're just revealing more details about the things that whistleblower Mark Klein revealed years ago: that the NSA has deals with the major telcos which scoop up a huge amount of internet traffic.
The programs, code-named Blarney, Fairview, Oakstar, Lithium and Stormbrew, among others, filter and gather information at major telecommunications companies. Blarney, for instance, was established with AT&T Inc., former officials say. AT&T declined to comment.

This filtering takes place at more than a dozen locations at major Internet junctions in the U.S., officials say.
The WSJ report is wrong on one account, though. It claims that people believed that the NSA's filtering actually happened "where undersea or other foreign cables enter the country" but that's not true. Mark Klein made it clear that the NSA had machines directly on AT&T's property.

And, of course, it will come as no surprise that these programs that work directly with telcos to tap into full internet traffic aren't just about metadata:
...this set of programs shows the NSA has the capability to track almost anything that happens online, so long as it is covered by a broad court order.

[....] Inevitably, officials say, some U.S. Internet communications are scanned and intercepted, including both "metadata" about communications, such as the "to" and "from" lines in an email, and the contents of the communications themselves.
This also shouldn't be a surprise. For all the talk of "metadata" it was always clear that the surveillance defenders were talking about this program only, which was the Patriot Act Section 215 "business records" program. But other programs, such as these listed above, were clearly about actual content as well.

While the report does note that some "minimization" happens, there is clearly widespread ability to abuse. The system works by having the NSA telling the telcos to only send over certain traffic covering "certain areas of interest" which the NSA then "briefly copies" and decides what to keep and what to dump. Again, this is consistent with earlier reports of the NSA searching all emails that go into and out of the US.

The latest report is, again, replete with NSA doublespeak. It claims that it's not "accessing" all of this traffic, because it asks the telcos to do some of the filtering for it. That's how it gets away with talking about "things we actually touch," even though its deals with the telcos basically mean they can access almost everything.

The WSJ further reports that, while most of the requests are targeted towards foreign communications, there are times when it's quite clear that requests are likely to cover domestic communications. Some telcos apparently push back, causing "friction", while others seem to comply with no qualms, though there is no indication of which telcos fall into which camp.

The report further confirms that this program is considered "legal" by the administration thanks to a broad interpretation of the FISA Amendments Act, giving the NSA the power to snoop on people "reasonably believed" to be outside the US, rather than requiring "probable cause" that they were "an agent of a foreign power." Also, there's this:
NSA has discretion on setting its filters, and the system relies significantly on self-policing. This can result in improper collection that continues for years.
The report also claims that it was one of these "mistakes" that resulted in three years of illegal collections (much greater than the "few months" that were revealed in last week's Washington Post article).

And now we wait for another bunch of carefully worded statements from NSA defenders...


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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 6:52pm

    oooh I can field this for the NSA defenders...

    but but but terrorism.

    *shakes head in disgust*

     

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    HappyBlogFriend (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:08pm

    I think we all suspect that the NSA has been playing "Hide the Content" since these leaks began. They're collecting it, they don't want to admit it, and they're against transparency because they know what it will uncover.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:11pm

    What's with the paywall?

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:28pm

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    The NSA defenders will up it up a notch ...

    but but we are protecting your children for the big bad terrorists

    "shakes head in disgust and throws out popcorn"

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:28pm

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    When terrorism fear mongering no longer works...

    But but international child porn and human trafficking!!

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:29pm

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    For a story like this they should shut it off.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:32pm

    Remember how we've been hearing things like "Privacy/Anonymity is dead" every now and then from people like Zuckerberg (Facebook) and Schmidt (Google) for the last few years?

    Those statements take on a whole new meaning in light of the Snowden documents, now that we know some of what they knew.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:39pm

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    We need domestic spying, that creepy guy down the street is planning to rape your wife, daughter, son and the family dog.
    The world is full of sickos and the only way to stop them is by spying on everyone.
    If you are against this spying you must be a pedofile terrorist.

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:42pm

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    "but but we are protecting your children for the big bad terrorists"

    Sounds about right.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:50pm

    Well, it has been mentioned over and over that we haven't heard all of it or the least of it. Somehow I still believe the rabbit hole is much, much, deeper.

    This pretty much seals up the claims we've been hearing about oversight, authority, and what is or is not done. Even though this is highly unlikely to be the worst of the worst on it's capabilities and it's practices, by itself this is enough. It's enough to stick a fork in and call it done.

    This release is from WSJ. Greenwald has yet to respond to the latest oneupmanship that was played out in the UK yesterday. Somehow, the shoe that falls will undoubtedly reveal more damaging news but this one hits fairly hard already.

    Just like there is no accountability unless the NSA chooses to reveal it voluntarily, it also looks with this new release that it can pick and choose it's requirements with no one looking over it's shoulder.

    Given how much we've been lied to already, there is nothing left to suspect but the public trust continue in freefall given that none of the officials want to be truthful and up front.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:55pm

    The NSA are like cockroaches

    Even if we could stomp on the all the programs we could see, we're always going to be surprised by something bigger and uglier the next day.

     

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    silverscarcat (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 7:58pm

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    At this point, I trust the pedophiles more, at least you know what they're after.

     

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    davebarnes (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:02pm

    Huge NSA fan

    Let's give them something to work with.
    Sarin, or GB, is an organophosphorus compound with the formula [(CH3)2CHO]CH3P(O)F. It is a colorless, odorless liquid,[4] used as a chemical weapon owing to its extreme potency as

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:07pm

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    Personally I'm waiting for when we find out they automatically build profiles on everyone, including Americans, to make it easier to see what data belongs to who when they want to look something up. When you're collecting large amounts of data, it's kind of the next logical step to sort it.

    Someone talking about blowing up something and context isn't clear? Check and see what else they do online. Buy a bunch of movie tickets online? Play a bunch of videogames? Casually argue about the politics of the war on terror? Likely a false positive. Go on about conspiracy theories, call for direct action against the government, and buy a pressure cooker on amazon? Time for the men in black SUVs to pay you a visit.

    Talk about buying drugs? Been browsing online pharmacies? Likely just someone looking to lower their Rx costs. Talk about buying drugs, and have no indications that you're talking about prescriptions? Time for some tracking, after all, drug money can fund terrorists. Etc.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:12pm

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    You might have missed it, but there has indeed been someone trying to defend the NSA's/government's actions in the comments sections in just that fashion, talking about the big bad boogiemen that will 'skewer' people, and 'roast them over fires' and similarly childish things.

    It's almost funny in a way how completely inept it is, and the assumption that everyone else is as gullible and easily scared as they are.

    'The enemies of the free world are militant and ruthless. They will stop at nothing to skewer you and me, roast us up over a fire and throw some livers on the bbq.'

    That's the latest scare-mongering attempt from that AC, I'd have to do a little digging to find the other one I responded to, but it was equally as childish, and like his/her other comments follows the same theme of 'The big bad monsters are going to get you, but don't worry, the government will protect you, as long as you do as you're told and don't question them'.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:15pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Odds are they'd be more honest too.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:16pm

    I can tell you with 99% certainty. If you're a law-abiding US citizen using encryption software for domestic text messaging, the NSA will take notice and send a web browser spyware update to your cell phone.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:40pm

    how can this be fixed

    how do we have a secret intelligence organization that doesn't rely solely on self-policing? A secret court isn't enough. They have to rely on the NSA to self-incriminate.

     

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    Namel3ss (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 8:52pm

    Keep 'em coming Guardian, WP, WSJ!

    Keep waving that big red flag in front of the angry bull (American public), more and more people will get more and more pissed off until eventually the bull will have had enough and will gore the living s**t out of anything that gets in its way.

    I just hope I get to see it happen, after all I'm part of that bull. I'll let you speculate which part. :)

     

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    Irishdaze, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 9:00pm

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    I'm pretty seriously sure all of our cell phones ALREADY have carrier-installed spyware that gathers everything we do with them for the NSA repositories. I've actually been suspecting it since the CarrierIQ debacle. That thing was ugly and a PITA, and, if done better, we'd never have known.

     

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    artp (profile), Aug 20th, 2013 @ 9:21pm

    Only 75%?

    Well, that's OK then. I'll just send 4-5 copies of every email, and one of them ought to get through unmonitored, right?

    Sheesh!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 10:07pm

    Thanks for the heads up on CarrierIQ. I ran a few detection tests from Google Play Store, and they all came back negative.

    My favorite part from the CarrierIQ Wikipedia article was this.

    "A request to the FBI under the Freedom of Information Act for “any manuals, documents or other written guidance used to access or analyze data gathered by programs developed or deployed by Carrier IQ” was denied, citing pending law enforcement proceeding. This has led to speculation that the FBI is using data obtained through Carrier IQ for investigations.[50]"

     

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    Anzablazer, Aug 20th, 2013 @ 11:40pm

    Technology as become the enslaver of Humanity. Soon everyone will be pigeon holed in there place in society.

     

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    Zem, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:10am

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    but now we can actually blame the NSA for every terrorist attack. When you spy on everything, it is clearly your fault when you miss something.

    I fully expect the average citizen caught up in an act of terrorism to sue the NSA as they would have clearly failed in their duty of care in stopping it.

    And especially now, when it seams the authorities are willing to call anything an act of terrorism, well missed the last episode of breaking bad? it was the terrosists, NSA I want compensation.

     

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    Malcolm Tucker, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:12am

    Soon everyone will be pigeon holed in there place in society.

    Well, America tries.

    I think I did my best with this years ago. To me, it doesn't bother me.

    I moved to California, Seattle, New York, Los Angeles, but the only resident that responded to me personally with ideas and options was someone from New York. And don't get me wrong.

    I told Mike to move to Denver because they were going to build the first USPTO office outside of Virginia and he needed to run it.

    Today, I know your busy selling T-Shirts and busy with flagging other comments, so I don't do that anymore.

    Keep up the good work, Mike.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:13am

    It was telco immunity in 2007 that did it.
    Telco's no longer needed to follow the laws of Congress, they only needed NSA to say it was legal.
    So telco's obeyed General Alexander and could safely ignore the laws of Congress.
    First thing he did when this scandle came out was demand the same immunity for every company he had done a deal with.

     

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    Malcolm Tucker, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:24am

    Dear Michael Masnick.

    You know, it's one of those types of things, where you try to call the shots, but some crazy man from Scotland gets a full-length video made from Lottery money, and eventually you have to say

    "This is Doctor Who".

    I know you've deleted my previous comments, and actually, I think you still owe me respect. Or Money.

    It's based on you, Son. Get your life in gear.

    I am Malcolm Tucker and, I am from Scotland and you have no idea what Scotts will do, Michael Masnick.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:35am

    Re: Dear Michael Masnick.

    Nevermind, I was pretending to be Malcolm, but without swear words.

    Tough to do that these days.

    Still, you deleted comments that are legal on BBC Broadcast.

     

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    Malcolm Tucker, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:41am

    No harm

    No harm meant. Just angry at times.


    Http://www.qr.net/YouTubeVideo

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 1:15am

    I don't know why but every time the NSA gets pounded I get this image of Wile E. Coyote falling holding some sign.

    http://foot-paws.deviantart.com/art/Wile-E-Coyote-sprung-up-245985491

     

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    FM Hilton, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 2:11am

    A remarkable point

    The government must be very angry-because it's pretty apparent that there's not just one single source of reporting on this stuff anymore.

    The WSJ is known as the paper of the people who actually have the power over this country-Wall St and friends. When they start covering this kind of news, you know there's something bad going on. They're not ignoring it any more.

    Everyone's getting into the game, and having a field day (although I do wish the WSJ would release this kind of reporting out from their paywall.)letting them know it.

    Yes, indeed-when you attack one source of the information, it would seem the rest of the entities who can get involved do jump into the fray.

    Perhaps there's hope for the journalism media after all.

     

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    techflaws (profile), Aug 21st, 2013 @ 3:17am

    Re: Soon everyone will be pigeon holed in there place in society.

    Keep uo the whining, Malcom.

     

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    techflaws (profile), Aug 21st, 2013 @ 3:18am

    Re: Re: Dear Michael Masnick.

    Deleted as in "click here to read"?

     

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    The Real Michael, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 4:44am

    Why don't AT&T, Verizon and other phone services advertise their link to the NSA by plastering their insignia all over their commercials and directly on their products' packaging and brochures? "Your calls will be monitored 24/7 by the NSA to protect you against data-thieves (HAH!), hackers, drug kingpins, mobsters, gangsters, pedophiles, the boogeyman, Godzilla, Mothra, bigfoot, and TERRORISTS!"

     

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    Anna Navarre, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 5:44am

    When one maniac can wipe out a city of twenty million with a microbe developed in his basement, a new approach to law enforcement becomes necessary. Every citizen of the world must be placed under surveillance. That means sky-cams at every intersection, computer-mediated analysis of every phone call, e-mail, and snail-mail, and a purely electronic economy in which every transaction is recorded and data-mined for suspicious activity.
    We are close to achieving this goal. Some would say that human liberty has been compromised, but the reality is just the opposite. As surveillance expands, people become free from danger, free to walk alone at night, free to work in a safe place, and free to buy any legal product or service without the threat of fraud. One day every man and woman will quietly earn credits, purchase items for quiet homes on quiet streets, have cook-outs with neighbors and strangers alike, and sleep with doors and windows wide open. If that isn't the tranquil dream of every free civilization throughout history, what is?

     

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    Pragmatic, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 6:11am

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    One where the ideas you just posted actually happen when surveillance is actually applied. The truth is, it's not and never has been "for the people," but to keep us submissive to tyrannical regimes.

     

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    Wolfy, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 7:20am

    FM Hilton Remarkable point

    The big money guys who run things are uncomfortable with the idea the of the NSA having on file going back a few years, all their communications. A close examination would show who has culpability in all sorts of potential crimes, should they be looked at.

    When you know where the bodies are buried, or have a "map" and how deep, you have power.

     

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    TowerGuy74, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:01am

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    Check out Sprint's Mobile ID and Sprint Connection Manager. Verizon's, too. Can't remove them, they re-enable from network periodically, Connection Manager passively scans WiFi IDs stores, and transmits that information, and you cannot clear that data. You also cannot opt-out of Mobile ID's User Agreement, which gives Sprint permission to store and sell ALL voice and data from your phone: there is no "No" option, only "Yes" and you cannot get past it to use your phone without knowing how, plus considerable PITA steps.

     

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    Disgusted, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:50am

    Dear WSJ

    While I understand your need to gather funds to continue operation, putting a story like this behind your (somewhat porous) paywall is foolish. These stories need to be in the open and freely accessible. The end result will be lost subscribers and the stories being given to other outlets. Besides, there are many other sources, such as Techdirt, that make them available at no charge. Not too bright!

     

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    NyteShayde, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 9:35am

    ...really? you're surprised?

    It's the *Patriot Act* they said. A good thing they said...


    And now we're all super shock and awe because the NSA is spying on the interwebs. Just shocked. SHOCKED.

     

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    JarHead (profile), Aug 21st, 2013 @ 12:04pm

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    Wow, IDK if you're just pulling my leg or if it's truly your ideal. Can't bring myself to trust 100% even my closest/best friend let alone some nebulous people who are doing the monitoring, cos that's one of the things required for your "ideal" to come true. That much power means great temptations to resist.

    If you're true to your ideal, why don't gather others who share it and build a walled garden where you have total surveillance and 0 privacy. That way you get to live your dream.

     

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    Brandon, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 3:27pm

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    Anna Navarre - that is sickening.

     

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    Matt, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 4:28pm

    YA RLY

    The NSA has the worst case of mission creep since Hitler took over the German Workers Party.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:23pm

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    'The governments of the supposedly free world are militant and ruthless. They will stop at nothing to skewer you and me, roast us up over a fire and throw some livers on the bbq.'

    There, fixed it for your AC.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:38pm

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    You make a good point.
    Bizarrely it's the other way around. Every time the mass surveillance fails to prevent a terrorist attack, there will always be cries for pumping more resources into the very programs that just failed to achieve the designed result. Thus the path to more money and power for the government departments and the corporations that benefit from these programs, is to not succeed in stopping 100% of terror attacks. A successful attack every once in a while will thus yield a large influx of cash.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:51pm

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    But who watches the watchers?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:53pm

    Re: YA RLY

    And that 'mission creep' isn't remotely done yet...

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 12:53am

    Wait a second...

    I thought I recognized that name, finally realized where it was likely from:

    http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Anna_Navarre

    Given that, fairly sure this is just a well done Poe, as the 'logic' presented would suit that character to a 't'.

     

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    Anonymous Howard (profile), Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 2:29am

    Re: Re:

    When terrorism fear mongering no longer works, another conveniently timed, slightly 9/11 happens, and everyone back to the starting block.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 6:48am

    Re: Wait a second...

    It's an article her character wrote in the game.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 6:57am

    Re: Re:

    Anna Navarre is a fictional character from Deus Ex who has been mechanically augmented into a finely honed killing machine who has personally killed nearly 1,000 people. Essentially the 'catch' is that the people in the story above live quietly not because they are content but because they are in a state of constant, paralyzing fear that one day they'll step over a line they can't see and someone like Anna Navarre will show up at their quiet home, on their quiet streets, or at one of their cookouts and just kill them on the spot no questions asked.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 10:09am

    I wanna know what they're "really" doing with all that data... 20 million queries a month?! I suspect they're not just monitoring, but are being more "proactive" in their online activities.

    For example, what's their relationship to the military and its programs that facilitate agents having multiple accounts (read multiple identities) on social media sites and blogs?

    Agents provocateurs for Tea Partiers and Occupy? hand puppets for federal policy and declining privacy trends? enlisting assets to promote X in favor in Y?

     

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    Kevin (profile), Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 10:15am

    Flood them

    Imagine what would happen if every email sent contained a line or two with the words that activate the NSA filters to intercept an email. 100 million emails a day with those lines written in Arabic would bring down any computer system and have the monitoring staff pulling their hair out.
    In reality all NSA is achieving is creating a market for terrorists to use heavier encryption of find alternatives.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 11:14am

    Re: Re: Wait a second...

    Love how fleshed out they made that world, with little tidbits like that just lying around to find.

    Rather horrifying how serious people took that, though given how close it is to the rational being used by the governments today I suppose it's not too surprising that they weren't able to tell the difference between the two.

     

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    Jethro Bodine, Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 11:17am

    Re: Re:

    Do they not realize the irony of their own statements? "In order to protect you from the enemies of freedom, we will remove your freedom."

    Sounds legit. If the NSA had been around in 1776, we'd still be a British colony.

     

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    Anonymous, Aug 22nd, 2013 @ 3:51pm

    Obvious question

    What about the other 25% ?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 23rd, 2013 @ 9:52am

    Re: Soon everyone will be pigeon holed in there place in society.

    Today, I know your busy selling T-Shirts and busy with flagging other comments, so I don't do that anymore.

    Showing a complete lack of understanding as to what it is that Mike does. Stay classy, Malcolm.

     

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    Lori, Oct 23rd, 2013 @ 2:58am

    WIFI INTRUDER

    So tonight FB chat go's crazy as I am writing and then Bam I get a wifi intruder alert and denied access. Wrote down the IP and MAC Address, thankfully right before the computer shut down (unplugged) and our wireless was gone! So did not get to save the screenshot. But had the info still. The Ip came up as 192.168.1.113 and Mac was 00:1E:4C:05:46:4E. Mac belonging to Company- Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co., Ltd. I have read NSA is Paying the tech companies to get your information. This is a tech company. We also do have AT&T. Anyone else having this issue? I had to go into our computer to reset everything! unplugging and resetting did not work.

     

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