GoDaddy Support Recordings Show Same Caller Claimed To Be 'Alan Cooper,' 'Mark Lutz' & 'John Steele'

from the uh-ohs dept

Here's a post on a few of the latest events in the ongoing Team Prenda saga -- with the key one being that Blair Chintella has filed a response to Prenda local lawyer Jacques Nazaire's attempt to block a variety of discovery efforts designed to suss out more details on the Prenda scam. The response doesn't even respond to the attempt to seal all future filings because of you mean, mean Techdirt commenters, but does drop this rather incredible bombshell:
To give another example, regarding the most recent domain registered to “Alan Cooper” – dangerousxxx.com – GD produced a technical support call wherein a male voice identifies himself as “Alan Cooper.” Exhibit GD2. However, a same voice identifies himself differently in multiple other phone calls:
ExhibitSelf-Identification
GD1"John"
GD3"John Steele"
GD4"John Steele"
GD5"John"
GD6"John Steele"
GD7"John Steele" & "Associate on the phone Paul."
GD8"Mark Lutz"
GD9"Mark Lutz"
Yeah, if you haven't figured it out yet, it certainly appears that there's now yet more evidence -- and probably very very strong evidence -- suggesting that John Steele pretended to be both Alan Cooper and Mark Lutz at times. This was already shown in a variety of evidence, using addresses and email addresses, but this just adds yet another layer of proof. Remember those messages about how "this call may be monitored for customer services purposes?" Yeah, it would appear John Steele may have forgotten such things can be sought in legal filings. In case you haven't been following all of this, I won't go back over all of the details, but a key accusation against John Steele was that he's been the puppet behind many of these companies, while he's insisted that it was really "Alan Cooper" (who denies having anything to do with anything) and "Mark Lutz" (who appears to be playing along).

The filing highlights a variety of other evidence, much of which we've seen and discussed before showing John Steele pretending to be Alan Cooper. Then it gets even better. Despite Jacques Nazaire claiming to have little to no connection to "Prenda," it turns out that the metadata on his filings showed that they were "authored" by... Paul Duffy, the "sole" partner behind Prenda. While it's possible that Nazaire was using a "template" motion that he obtained from Duffy, it still highlights how it's laughable that Prenda is not associated with the case.

Meanwhile, in yet another Team Prenda case, one of their many local attorneys -- like Nazaire -- has finally realized what Brett Gibbs discovered a while back: the core of Team Prenda (John Steele, Paul Hansmeier and Paul Duffy) appear to have no problem throwing the other "red shirt" attorneys they sign up to actually file their cases under the bus when necessary. Lawyer Daniel Ruggiero, who handled a bunch of Prenda cases in Massachusetts, has made a motion to withdraw, noting that he can't trust anything Team Prenda tells him.
There are several things that have come to light regarding Plaintiff and its related owners, officers and lawyers since counsel agreed to file and represent Plaintiff in this case.
You don't say...? He then points the court to Judge Wright's order revealing the details of the Prenda scam, and suggesting that he, too, had no idea that Mark Lutz was supposedly in charge of AF Holdings, and that given everything that's gone on, he doesn't trust Lutz at all:
Once I became aware of the "on goings" of AF Holdings and the others mentioned in his decision, I reached out to speak with someone about it. I received a phone call from someone who claimed to be Mark Lutz. It is my understanding that Mr. Lutz is the owner of Plaintiff, but to be honest, I have no idea what to believe.
He further notes that with everything that has come out, he can't act as AF Holding's lawyers because he can't trust Team Prenda to be truthful:
It is impossible for the undersigned to file pleadings on behalf of the Defendant where there is no reasonable basis to conclude that anything that Plaintiff tells counsel is truthful.
Smart move.

Finally, there was a small setback in the ongoing defamation lawsuit that Duffy has filed against Alan Cooper. The judge refused to dismiss the case under Minnesota's anti-SLAPP law, basically arguing that the filing wasn't sufficient, but Cooper and Paul Godfread can file an amended response that hopefully is accepted. The court also is moving forward with considering sending the case back to the local St. Clair County courts rather than keeping them in the federal courts. You can read the background of all of this here. This is a bit surprising and unfortunate, as Prenda's argument that the inclusion of Hansmeier's Alpha Law Firm means there's no diversity necessary to move it out of a local court is highly questionable, in part because Duffy added Alpha Law Firm in a manner that clearly violated the rules (filing the amended complaint without first asking the court to do so, and even lying to the court clerk about whether the original complaint had been served) but more importantly because the addition of Hansmeier's firm was clearly solely for the purpose of blocking the transfer to the federal courts, because none of the so-called "defamatory" statements were about Alpha Law Firm.

Much of that ruling seems more focused on procedural issues, so hopefully that gets worked out quickly.






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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 3:57am

    Puppet master probably, puppet, not so much.

     

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    Alana (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:08am

    ... We are suffering a massive popcorn deficiency. This case has caused a massive decline in the amount of popcorn in the world. ... Can we sue for that?

     

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    Dark Moe, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:24am

    Popcorn For Sale

    Ha! I just ordered ten cases of "Big Leagues" Jiffy Pop from Ebay. Anyone needing some is welcome to contact the undersigned. Pricing changes daily. Govern yourselves accordingly.

     

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    Ninja (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:27am

    John Steele: Multiple personality disorder your honor! Please forgive my insane client.
    Judge: But you are defending yourself!
    John Steele: No, I'm afraid you are confused, I am Alan Cooper.
    Judge: Not that again...
    John Steele: Also, I'm Lady Gaga on my spare time.

     

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    S. T. Stone, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:29am

    Instead of popcorn, I think Iíll have some ice cream. Itíll keep me cool as I sit back and watch Prenda get burned so badly that it ends up starting a forest fire.

     

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    Alana (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:31am

    Re:

    Judge: If you're Lady Gaga, then dress like her and preform in the courthouse.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 4:54am

    Defenses

    Truth.
    If their reputation could not be any worse.

    They really are making the defamation case moot.

    Keep flailing Pretenda, it's funny seeing you screw yourselves.

     

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    psy (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 5:32am

    Never under estimate the predictability of stupidity.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 5:43am

    And they were stupid enough to use GoDaddy

    Everyone with the slightest bit of intelligence knows to stay FAR away from GoDaddy: they're complete assholes.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 5:55am

    Re: Re:

    I for one do not welcome a scantily clad John Steele.

     

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    Dark Moe, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 6:16am

    I'm so giddy over the Daddygate Tapes that a moment ago, I wet myself.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 6:21am

    The many faces of Steele...

    Steele's expected (out of court) response:
    'Well that's obviously Cooper pretending to be me pretending to be him, and since he's got multiple-personality disorder(I have mentioned that right?) he also at times impersonates Lutz as well.'

    Steele's expected (in court) response:
    'I plead the fifth'
    OR
    *Silence*
    OR
    *Inchoherent ranting about how everyone's out to get him*
    Or
    All of the above

     

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    Raul, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 7:02am

    Re: Defenses

    BTW the statute of limitations for defamation in IL like the majority of states is 1 year. Most of the stuff Prenda is butthurt about is now barred from suit.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 7:14am

    In a shocking twist, the John Steele reveals that he was the defendant all along, and that he was actually suing himself.
    The judge then rules in favor of the prosecution and the curtain closes, only to open back up and reveal that the judge, too, was John Steele.

     

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    Tman, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 8:21am

    Mystery Machine

    We need Scooby and the gang to unmask Prenda

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 8:27am

    Re: Re:

    Welp, that's my next ten years worth of fantasies ruined!

    Thanks, Alana! *mad*

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 8:53am

    Re: Popcorn For Sale

    Didn't Rick Cotton at NBC say, piracy would be the end of popcorn farmers?

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 8:54am

    Re: Re: Re:

    I do, think about all the meme's we could do at Reddit ....

     

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    Baldaur Regis (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:02am

    3 points

    1. Companies retaining audio data (re customer service) long enough to be subpoenaed is...disturbing.

    2. Note to self: find program outputting/modding all metadata hidden in pdfs, docxs, exifs &tc.

    3. Re John Steele: The first criminal act is the hardest - impersonation, knowingly fleecing innocent citizens, all get easier with practice.

    What do these 3 points have in common? Privacy, in the sense of being unobserved. Steele is being caught out by the traces he leaves on other people's hardware. If he was a better crook, he wouldn't be so laughably obvious. But consider - if an ordinary person wishes to live a life unobserved and unmolested, the same tools and mindset a criminal employs would have to be obtained. To an investigator, would there any difference?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:19am

    Re:

    "John Steele reveals that he was the defendant all along"

    Well, considering that one of his "defendants" later admitted that he agreed to be sued and to not oppose discovery, that's actually not too far off the mark...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:22am

    Kinda strange wording...

    "It is impossible for the undersigned to file pleadings on behalf of the Defendant where there is no reasonable basis to conclude that anything that Plaintiff tells counsel is truthful."

    He meant "plaintiff" both times, right? Although at this stage it probably FEELS like AF Holdings is the defendant.

     

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    akp (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:39am

    Such lovely schadenfreude on this sunny Thursday.

     

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    Oblate (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:41am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Instead of being covered in pieces of raw meat, he's covered by the bloody tattered remains of his law career.

    The raw meat would have looked better.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 9:51am

    I feel sorry for the person(s) who had to go through the Prenda Gang's felonious crimes over the past decade, and try to unravel and figure out their criminal actions.

     

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    CTVic, Aug 15th, 2013 @ 10:54am

    Love it

    I love seeing these defense attorneys slamming the Prenda boys with arguments that an IP address attributed to John Steele did this, that and the other thing.
    If the opposing counsel wants to counter this, they have to make the argument that an IP address does not constitute an actual person's identity ... at which point everybody says "Fucking Duh" and the entire case implodes.

     

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    John Fenderson (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 10:54am

    Re: 3 points

    2. Note to self: find program outputting/modding all metadata hidden in pdfs, docxs, exifs &tc.


    Two solutions:

    1) Try http://meta-extractor.sourceforge.net
    2) Run Linux under KDE -- all document metadata can be easily viewed by right-clicking on the document.

     

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    Baldaur Regis (profile), Aug 15th, 2013 @ 11:14am

    Re: Re: 3 points

    Thanx and a tip o' the hat to ya John!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 16th, 2013 @ 10:02am

    Lawyers should be pissed

    Every lawyer that acts in a responsible way and conducts lawful business should be extremely pissed that these people are using this profession in this deceitfully fraudulent way.

     

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