Congress' Response To Leaks? Stop Contractors From Access To Classified Material Rather Than Stop NSA Spying

from the closing-the-wrong-door dept

Ah, Congress. It appears that it’s moving fast in response to the revelations, leaked by NSA contractor Ed Snowden, that the NSA is scooping up a ridiculous amount of digital data about all of us. But that atypically fast response is not about stopping the NSA from this overaggressive collection of data. No, it’s to try to ban contractors from having access to highly classified material. This is straight out of Senator Dianne Feinstein’s playbook: focus on demonizing the action of whistleblowing, rather than what was revealed by the whistleblower. And, of course, as always, that’s a really stupid move. It may generate some headlines, but it does nothing to deal with the underlying problem of abuse of the law (which has been done with full knowledge of Feinstein) or the fact that plenty of people have access to this information. Locking out contractors won’t stop the next insider from leaking information — and it will actually likely inhibit the NSA from using the best technical talent out there in building and maintaining its computer systems. Either way, it’s a weak attempt at treating the symptom, rather than the actual problem.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

‘Either way, it’s a weak attempt at treating the symptom, rather than the actual problem.’

No, it actually makes perfect sense when you look at it from their point of view.

They don’t consider any of the NSA’s actions(with the exception of being caught anyway) to be wrong, whereas they do consider the people finding out what the government is doing a serious problem, so by making it harder for such leaks to occur in the future, while not impeding the NSA or other similar agencies in the slightest, they are indeed addressing the only ‘problem’ they care about.

Internet Zen Master (profile) says:

Re: Dear Congress

Seriously, Congress’ approval rating is down to 10%. That’s the lowest it’s been… well… ever. (That said, Congress has never had an approval rating of over 50%).

Gallup’s poll has a 3% margin of error, so yeah… American really does not like Congress right now.

Why do we keep voting these idiots in again?

Anonymous Coward says:

Ah, Congress.

I love it when you start an article with this “Ah, ______” nonsense. Nothing says, “I’m a chubby, dishonest douche nozzle” more than that.

Milkity, Milk, Chubby. Bawk! Bawk! No one’s more scared of honest, direct discussion than you, Mikey. No one. Biggest fake on earth! Congrats!

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

ROFLMAO!!!!! I fucking love it when you guys post that link.

Mike is such a dishonest scumbag that all he has are excuses, excuses, excuses as to why he can’t have even one honest discussion about even the simplest topic.

Post that link all you want. Nothing makes me laugh more than that. Well, Mike’s dishonest nature makes me laugh pretty damn hard too. Not sure if it’s more though.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

I actually love how you guys are so desperate and stupid that you must immediately hide anything that challenges your Chubby Leader. It cracks me up how you censor me and then argue until the end of time that it’s not censorship. It’s the icing on the cake that is TD. I fucking love it. Nothing proves what a bunch of clueless dipshits you guys are better than when you “report” anything you don’t like. I fucking live for it.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

I’ll just say this:

In most of the “copyright loving” websites, your posts are moderated and often don’t even show up unless they sing the song.

Here at least you get to assault our senses until we report you for being waaaaaayyyyy off-topic…also obnoxious as hell.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:5 Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

censor what?

i can still read your idiocy in the reported posts.

you trolls post such over the top stuff amidst so many others on the level that your posts stick out like sore thumbs even when they’re not reported.

but i don’t believe any of it because i think you’re all gimmicks just doin it for the lulz.

on the other hand, maybe you’re actually trolling to undermine Big Conent

who can we believe? maybe the nsa knows

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

and don’t you just love how upset they get, and how defensive they become, but never come back with a viable counter argument, no, but they will insult you for hurting their precious cult leaders sensibilities.

It’s not his fault he’s bald and chubby, he’s think boned. Why his skull goes all the way through !!!! just one solid lump of bone.. honest.. !!!

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Post link, hit report, and move on people, don't feed the troll

If you be so kind to point me where in the source code is the link to report I would be happy to obliged, is it in an iframe somewhere, because I couldn’t find it directly bellow the comment code.

Even better, care to show a sample of how the reporting URL is constructed so I can get just the cid’s for it and report those.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I’m here all day, every day. I’ll discuss any issue with Mike on the merits and without weasel words. I’ll answer every question to the best of my abilities and without dodging anything. Funny how Mike can’t even be 1/100th that honest. Nobody is more dishonest than Mike.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Re:

I don’t know what COD is, so no. The fact is that Mike is surrounded by all his fans and sycophants. He’s got all the back up. Everyone can all pile in to help him against me. He’s on his own turf with every advantage. Yet, he’s still too scared to discuss anything. He can’t be honest. He can’t be truthful. He can’t discuss even the most basic issue. That’s the actions of a man who is not honest. That’s the actions of a man who is scared of the truth. TD is the fakest bullshit website on earth, and Mike knows it.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6 Re:

Wow, really? COD to me means cash on delivery. I can guess that you mean Call of Duty. If you want me to understand what you really mean by it, you can just tell me. But, yeah. Pretend like I’m not here for honest conversation because you use some term I’m not familiar with. That makes perfect sense. You’re clearly the captain of the debate team, and I’m just so lucky you’re sparing me the mental beating you’re so clearly capable of. Run along, friend.

The Real Michael says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Re:

Not when you consider that he’s likely being paid to troll, spread disinfo and distract from the topic at hand, similar to how the mainstream media has gone on its predictable crusade to demonize and ridicule Snowden as being a drop-out and (get this) an anime artist. Ooh, such the villain. It’s kind of ironic in that it’s self-demonizing on the NSA’s part. After all, who was it that hired Snowden and gave him access to files requiring high security clearance? Uh-huh.

Baldaur Regis (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Milkity, Milk, Chubby. Bawk! Bawk!

Are these the words of a man worth talking to? Or are they the crying of an attention-starved child?

As you grow into reason, you may come to understand that the unformed ego which screams ME!ME!ME! throughout both your signed and unsigned comments is the wellspring of the MINE!MINE!MINE! which winds through the dreams of greedy men.

Most children grow out of the puling stage of expressing their ego, to one degree or another. My sincere hope is that those charged with your upbringing will be capable of guiding you through this difficult time of your development.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

These are the words of a man who has tried hundreds and hundreds of times to get Mike to have an honest conversation and who knows for a fact that nothing scares Mike more. All I have is contempt for him. He’s a total fake. So much so that he lets me shit all over him on his own turf rather than simply confront me and show his minions that what I’m saying is untrue. Nothing scares Mike Masnick more than the thought of an honest and direct conversation with me. I fucking own him. Would an honest person let someone taunt him like this on his own turf? Nope. He’s hiding because he’s scared.

nonfer (user link) says:

Re: Re: lack of enlightenment... post age of...

boilerplate isn’t poetry or literature. by
boilerplate i mean your lack of a life.
development my butt.

that you don’t get irony/sarcasm is ironically
reinforced by boilerplate. paraphrasing here-
a rat will keep pushing a button that stimulates
the pleasure center of it’s brain until it dies.

we all do it, one way or another. condescension
should always be original and deserved… with
an eye for constructivism not malicious, smug,
joy.

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Rapnel (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I’m amused that your self-righteous nonsense is playing an especially challenging game of ‘ignore the current events’.

It must suck to be you to have your pathetic display of self-indignation constantly and consistently berated for the absolute farce that it is.

And, to top it all off, you can’t seem to recognize the difference between being censured and censored.

Brav-fucking-o there captain idiot.

out_of_the_blue says:

The THOUSANDS of firms, with Google at top.

As title of article you just linked to:
“U.S. Agencies Said to Swap Data With Thousands of Firms”

But hey, you missed a quip: could have called this the “Feinstein Play”, and gotten a second Wikipedia entry! Too bad I’ve now pre-empted you. Past your (rather low) peak, I guess.

TheLastCzarnian (profile) says:

Re: The THOUSANDS of firms, with Google at top.

OOTB gets one thing right: Feinstein. Every stupid move from Congress seems to revolve around her. What is it with her? She seems like the perfect “Conservative Liberal”, with all of her stances going back to the 1980 liberals. You know, the type Regan trounced.

Now I know how conservatives feel about Bachman.

Jay (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 The THOUSANDS of firms, with Google at top.

She’s a neoliberal similar to Nixon. She maintains the status quo and her own paycheck through plausible deniability of government issues.

I think people should be aware that even FDR would approve of her tactics until the public revolted against him. Liberalism is still a right wing ideology after all.

The Real Michael says:

Re: Re: Re:3 The THOUSANDS of firms, with Google at top.

We need to stop playing the right-vs-left political game and start looking at things from a Constitutional stance. Both sides are working to undermine our rights, polarizing the country through the illusion of choice. We must stand together as one people, indivisible, and demand that the government stop violating our rights. No other issue is more pressing than this one.

If we cannot even maintain our liberties, our rights, our privacy, if we allow the government and their goon squads to walk all over us for the sake of ‘national security,’ we have no right calling ourselves the land of the free, home of the brave. Our Constitution will be erased and we’ll fall under authoritarian rule. And we’ll deserve it.

Jay (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4 The THOUSANDS of firms, with Google at top.

We need to stop playing the right-vs-left political game and start looking at things from a Constitutional stance.

There isn’t really a “right vs left” game here. If you look at the political spectrum, it’s neoclassical ideologies battling it out, ie conservatives vs liberals. If we were to actually have left wing politics, you would have communists vs conservatives and that isn’t happening.

We must stand together as one people, indivisible, and demand that the government stop violating our rights. No other issue is more pressing than this one.

And there’s plenty of ways to do that. In particular, I’m a fan of Constitutional amendments banning the electoral college, instituting proportional representation, and allowing people to form into unions or other businesses that they enjoy.

If we cannot even maintain our liberties, our rights, our privacy, if we allow the government and their goon squads to walk all over us for the sake of ‘national security,’ we have no right calling ourselves the land of the free, home of the brave

If we understood that political inequality leads to economic inequality, I’m sure that we’d have a much better system than now. Sadly, until more people decide that they’ve had enough austerity, this problem will continue.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

I know! If Pedobear gets busted he’ll go to prison, but if the government get’s busted playing Pedobear they’ll classify it “for the children of course”.
After that they’ll murder the people who may of handled the documents. After all they don’t want another BM case on their hands now do they?

Anonymous Coward says:

you’ve gotta be fucking kiddin’ me!! even after this, the lazy fuckers still dont want to do the job they were elected to do!! i can see some serious shit happening here! mind you, as the military is at the beck and call of government, knocking off a few hundred civilians will soon stop any sort of backlash!!

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

i’m cool with that.

i used to be concerned that the government operated at such a snails pace with red tape and bureaucratic nonsense, but i’ve since come to realize this is a good thing. i prefer an government that can’t can’t get anything done and is employed by inferiors. it keeps OUR freedoms safe

Anonymous Coward says:

And besides, contractors never had that kind of access, anyhow

Locking out contractors?

?And besides, the contractors never even had that access to begin with??

?NSA leaker Snowden is lying, say leaders of House Intelligence Committee?, by Mike Lillis, The Hill, June 13, 2013

?.?.?. Emerging from a hearing with NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander, Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the Intelligence Committee, and Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), the senior Democrat on the panel, said Edward Snowden simply wasn’t in the position to access the content of the communications gathered under National Security Agency programs, as he’s claimed.

“He was lying,” Rogers said. “He clearly has over-inflated his position, he has over-inflated his access and he’s even over-inflated what the actually technology of the programs would allow one to do. It’s impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do.”?.?.?.

Anonymous Coward says:

Assange's strategy seems to be working exactly as planned

I recall reading that this is the desired outcome of these kinds of leaks, according to Julian Assange. If I recall correctly, he wrote that leaks make secretive organizations more paranoid, so they cripple themselves while trying to prevent more leaks. Less secretive organizations are less affected, so they end up gaining the upper hand.

Anonymous Coward says:

Three years later, average_joe is still up to his goalpost-shifting, insult-flinging strategies to pull off an “argument”, and his fuckbuddy darryl is nowhere to be found.

Goddammit, average_joe. I know love comes in many forms, but you should’ve let the poor fuck come up for air instead of getting your rocks off! Now you’ve only got 70 years on the rights to his asshole!

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