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Counter-Strike Map Of School Causes Outrage

from the conflicted dept

On the heels of our last story about someone who raised the public's ire over a "real-world" Counter-Strike map, it seems these stories may only become more prevalent. This seems particularly likely given that the threat of legal action doesn't seem to serve much of a deterrance against those that wish to be creative with game maps in this respect. You had to know that this gaming envelope was only going to be pushed further. Such is the way of things. It's something of a one-up culture. In addition, I should note that I tend to think that punishing this kind of creation is generally wrong. It's a game map, nothing more.

However, I will admit to being heavily conflicted when I came across the story of another Counter-Strike map controversy, this one resulting from the creation of a map based on a local secondary school in Port Moody, British Columbia. The reaction from the locals upon discovering a video of the map on YouTube was, understandably, negative.

"We have rainbow-colored lockers, and it's our field of dreams... and then to watch the video game, and see people shooting up our field of dreams, it was just so disturbing," Alex Devlin, a teacher at Port Moody Secondary School, told CBC News. "I believe it's just a game, it's not reality... but a lot of kids don't live in reality, right," another local said.
Let me start off by saying that I get it. Given recent tragedies suffered on the North American continent, I completely understand the discomfort locals, especially parents, might feel discovering a map of their school being built in a game that is all about shooting. I won't begrudge them their animosity. However, I am extremely pleased that cooler heads prevailed in this case.

The map's creators helped their causes greatly when they published their own website to respond to their critics. Far from antagonizing, they decided to explain why they had chosen the school to serve as inspiration for their game map.
The map was this because it's architecture and design is rather ideal for the game's tactics. Furthermore, this is a location we are quite familiar with already. Additionally, supporters and fellow alumni are also likely familiar with this location, which makes it an ideal common ground for this game and its intended audience.
When you push the admittedly understandable emotional response to the side, their explanation makes a great deal of sense. Local gamers wanting to play a game they love in a fictional representation of a place they know. Once I took a deep breath, I realized that some of the games I love most, and some of those I'm looking forward to the most, feature real locations that I'm familiar with. Any game, for instance, that features the city of Chicago, regardless of the game's genre, is likely going to get a look from me, because I love the idea of playing out a fictional game in the city I love. This is no different, even if the game in question is one that involves weapons and shooting. More importantly, it certainly isn't something that should require legal action. Fortunately, the police in the area agree, saying so in what I would consider to be a surprisingly reasonable response.
Although the creation of such a video game is likely ill-conceived in the current climate, it does not constitute an offence. Investigators from the Port Moody Police Department have interviewed the developer of this game and have concluded that he does not pose a danger to the staff or students of Port Moody Secondary.
In the end, that's all that matters. There is no safety concern in making a map of a school for a game. It's just a map.



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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:06am

    I think a more accurate title might have been:

    Initial outrage over counter-strike map of school fizzles
    from the I-guess-that's-not-a-big-deal-now-that-I-think-about-it department.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:20am

    Nice

    Glad to see that Canadian cops, at least, aren't willing to expand their beat to fictional worlds.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:22am

    With a title like that , I was expecting a story about the school shutting down and expelling anyone who played video games. Also SWAT and NSA and CIA and all the other acronyms descended swiftly on the town.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:23am

    Re: Nice

    Fictional worlds are the province of Jurisfiction. The will send someone out Tuesday Next to investigate.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:24am

    Unless there are missions involving players killing kids, I can't understand the outrage.

    If it's soldiers killing each other, and there are no kids or teachers involved, then who cares?

     

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    Joseph M. Durnal, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:33am

    Map of Store

    I remember fondly making a map of the computer store I worked at for Duke Nukem 3D back in the mid 90's. We did them for a few other games as well. I think it is common for a group of gamers to create maps of places that they are familiar with.

     

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    Brent (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:42am

    i make maps on Warfish, an online Risk site, and the most popular maps are always the ones people have some background with, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, the United States, the entire world, etc. I think it makes perfect sense that a more immersive game would benefit from a highly detail oriented and locally know map such as a school, however, i think the timing is in bad taste. that said, if it was a good map i wouldn't be bothered by playing it. After all, one of the best maps in Black Ops was Nuketown which was a mocked suburban neighborhood complete with cardboard cut outs of kids and families (that get's nuked at the end). That map was made by the game designers...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:46am

    I think several factors play into making this a story.

    The us versus them attitude fostered by party politics; people are expected to have a definite opinion.
    Th paranoia fostered by governments to justify their intrusion into every-bodies life.

    Press sensationalism, with reporters trying to create stories out of the slightest incident. The one or two people who react make the story, ignoring the hundreds that shrug and go so whats the story.

    The increased visibility of actions wnen the Internet is used to circulate stuff,it allow minor things to become a trigger for pushing a political agenda.

    An analysis of why this became a story would be more interesting.

     

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    W Robison, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:55am

    Really?

    Really?
    So let me get this straight, movies like Olympia Fallen and countless others depicting destruction of Americas infrastructure, buildings and history is OK? But all hell breaks loose from a map?

    Sorry for double post

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 6:56am

    Maybe of the e what we need to do is return to the morality of the middle ages.

    In Spain during the Inquisition the authors would have experienced a very dynamic understanding before subs-crumbing to their own wildest desires for deliverance from the physical world.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:01am

    WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:09am

    Re: Really?

    But see, movies are fictional representations of death and killing and other violent actions, unlike video games which are... um... also fictional representations of death and killing and stuff...

    Yeah, I really don't get the people who don't even bat an eye at violent movies but completely flip out over violent games.

     

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    TasMot (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:11am

    Nuclear Bomb Explodes during Football Game in Baltimore----you better duck

    People like to see places they are familiar with in their movies/games. "The Sum of All Fears" blew up a nuclear bomb during a football game in Baltimore. It grossed close to $200 million. You know what? Nobody was actually hurt or killed (or do we count the bits in the computer). There is an old expression that I think aptly fits, "Get a Life" and I want to add, "Stay out of Fiction if you can't handle it".

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:12am

    I made one in high school. It never got past our group of Counter Strike gamers though. It was a bunch of fun.

     

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    Akari Mizunashi (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:27am

    So, make a map, publish it online, and get a police visit.

    Be a moody pair of teens or an off-their-rocker gun nut, who is noticed by their community, but don't get a police visit to measure threat level.

    Yep, let's just keep blaming games for the problem.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:45am

    Re: High School layout

    I always wanted to do something like this, but never had the means when I was in high school in the 90's. It really was a perfect layout, too.

    https://maps.google.com/?ll=37.648163,-120.919073&spn=0.002508,0.002411&t=h&z=19

    The older high schools in town were just rows of classrooms open to the outside, but the new school was designed to look more like a fortress (or prison).

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 7:53am

    I did the same in high school

    When I was in high school here in the US I actually created a map of the school for Quake II. All my friends thought it was awesome and the one adult that saw the map was a teacher at the school. He was impressed by the work I had put in and made me show him the program I had used to create the map.

    As a side note, none of my friends or myself ever went on a rampage, nor are any of us in jail for any reason. Most are married, have families, and still play shooters online with each other.

     

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    Wally (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 8:46am

    "Although the creation of such a video game is likely ill-conceived in the current climate, it does not constitute an offence. Investigators from the Port Moody Police Department have interviewed the developer of this game and have concluded that he does not pose a danger to the staff or students of Port Moody Secondary."

    That there is simply a scenario of "better safe than sorry". Hell I'd be stoked to see Columbus or Cleveland mapped out for a game.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 9:02am

    We have a map of the building we work in for Left 4 Dead 2. We are working on adding some of the stores down the street (Tim Hortons and Dunkin Donuts) with one of them eventually being one of the safe rooms.

    The map of our work building is quite accurate.

    Hasn't caused any of us to want to blow the building up. You know, outside of the feelings we have from working here ;)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 9:26am

    Re:

    What is the problem with killing kids and teachers?

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 10:07am

    Re: Nuclear Bomb Explodes during Football Game in Baltimore----you better duck

    I'd like to see the numbers on that. I bet it was especially popular in Baltimore.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 10:09am

    Did one of my school for Doom 2 20 years ago,

     

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    Jeff Rife, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 10:10am

    Better than paintball

    Making a computer game map of an area any playing with virtual weapons is just another extension of the same games we have played for years.

    Doesn't anybody remember playing whatever form of "shoot the guy on the other team with your cap gun" when they were young? Paintball is the modern extension of this and is quite accepted.

    Would the school district, parents, etc., rather have the kids break into the school and have paintball games there?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 10:21am

    Re: Re: High School layout

    The rumor (that I'm guessing was just an urban legend) was that my newer high school (in the 90's) was designed by an architect who also had designed prisons.

    I've always thought that high schools and college campuses would make the best places to play paintball or capture the flag or any games like that. It's also true for FPS computer games.

     

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    Uriel-238 (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 10:59am

    Cops & Robbers

    Play Counter-Strike, and The Terrorists Win.

    Often.

    Did anyone else play that as a kid? Y'know pointing your finger and screaming bang, and acting out death scenes as collateral to encourage your opponents to do the same?

    Counter-Strike is essentially the best computer version of that very playground scenario.

     

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    JEDIDIAH, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 11:23am

    It's our Independence Day!

    Apparently the nuking of Houston triggered cheers in movie theaters down there.

    Given the national character of the state of Texas, that kind of reaction is not surprising.

     

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    Paul R Dillinger, Mar 29th, 2013 @ 11:32am

    We made levels for our high school and our neighborhood in Duke Nukem 3D WAAAYYY back in the day (1996). It was the challenge of trying to make something that looks like a place you know. I don't see the problem. We were kids learning real world skills with computers, and for the most part we're all well educated and productive members of society today. I didn't try to go shoot aliens at my high school either (much more practical to do it on a PC).

     

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    Internet Zen Master (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 12:47pm

    Re: Re: Re: High School layout

    If it's an urban legend, it's a popular one. I've heard of a couple high/middle/(hell, even) elementary schools that were supposedly designed with the original intention that they were going to be prisons before they got converted to schools at the last minute. Would explain why some students felt like they were in prison every time they had to go to school (aside from the usual explanation).

    'Course, these are all bogus myths, but one thing is for sure: architects for schools in the 90's had no originality.

     

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    Deirdre (profile), Mar 29th, 2013 @ 4:12pm

    Re: Re: Nice

    Oh Yeah! You got my vote for Funny.

     

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    Broseph, Apr 8th, 2013 @ 12:05pm

    Name of map

    wat is the name of the map

     

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    Kony 2013, Sep 30th, 2013 @ 7:46am

    must of took him along time :/

     

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