Now US Wants Transatlantic Free Trade Agreement With European Union To Include Turkey: Who's Next?

from the interesting-geography dept

Last week we wrote about the important news that Mexico is asking to join what began as a bilateral trade agreement between the US and Europe, with the suggestion that Canada might follow suit. Now, via @FFII, we learn that even before Mexico's announcement, the US has been encouraging other countries to join:

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Wednesday US Secretary of State John Kerry wanted Turkey to be included in Transatlantic Free-Trade Area (TAFTA).

Davutoglu said they would follow closely the process of Turkey's inclusion in TAFTA.
As with Mexico's application, it would seem that the European Union doesn't get any choice in the matter. But what's really interesting here is that it confirms the impression that the US is keen to build out TAFTA to include many more countries, including some far from the Atlantic that originally defined it. The big question is now: who's next on the list?

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    athe, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 12:41am

    Who's next?

    Siberia?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 1:01am

    Re: Who's next?

    Nah, it'll be Greenland and Morocco.

     

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    Turkey, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 1:10am

    Turkey has a customs union with the EU

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Turkey_Customs_Union

    If you have to rant, at least don't be ignorant.

    If Turkey does not get involved with the negotiations now, it will face a fait accompli once they are completed, as it is already integrated with European Customs Area. So it is natural for it to be a party in any trade agreements EU is involved with.

     

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    Zakida Paul (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 1:51am

    Is there no end to the US bully boy tactics?

    They should just fuck off and leave the rest of the world to manage their own affairs.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 2:06am

    Re:

    There is an end, but the means may not justify it.

     

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    avideogameplayer, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 2:23am

    Why the hell are all the treaties begin worked on to begin with? Isn't there enough treaties around without more screwing things up more?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 3:04am

    Re: Turkey has a customs union with the EU

    Switzerland? Norway? Iceland? The microstates? Sure it is EEA and EFTA, but it is even more of an association than Turkeys...

    Heck go mad and include The Council Of Europe with Russia, Ukraine, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Aszerbadjan etc. basically the old USSR and old yugoslavian countries...

    Somewhere you have to draw the line and including Turkey should make it a no-brainer to include EEA and EFTA. Getting crowded? Absolutely!
    There has to be a line drawn somewhere and that line is usually EU + Switzerland. Including Turkey seems more of a "Turkey is our allies"-thing than based on customs. ACTA was almost 50 % about customs and Turkey was not a party there, so the argument seems weak!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:02am

    Does it have any dangerous copyright clauses in it, that were transferred from ACTA or TPP?

     

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    Zem, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:02am

    A great example

    So next time someone finds such a hole should they

    A) Do the same thing, goto jail and be broke for the rest of their life

    B) Sell the information to someone who realy is a criminal

    C) Do nothing

    Pretty sure A is not an option.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:05am

    a) what has Turkey got that is so important that the USA wants it? has to be something. no way the USA does anything unless it is to it's own advantage
    b) how long before the EU actually grows some balls and tells the USA 'hang on a minute, who gave you sole rights to invite countries on board? we have a say in this as well!!'

     

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    Ninja (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:16am

    I'm amused. Why would any country agree to participate in any agreement without being allowed to say a word in it?

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:50am

    Re:

    to keep the bad men from invading, looking for terrorists?

     

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    Michael, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:51am

    Re:

    If you live next to the Mafia head and he walks (well, sends someone) over to your front door and asks if you want to sign onto his agreement but you cannot have any part in drafting the agreement, what is your response?

     

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    gorehound (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 4:54am

    Re:

    I agree ! I hate my Government.Bunch of A-Hole Corrupt Politicians thinking they can just Bully the World into our BS Copyright, ETC.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 5:19am

    Turkey is a European country. It is not yet a memmber of the EU, but is a European country. So that should not be surprising.

     

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    NOT APPLICABLE, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 5:32am

    Re:

    America should just curl up and fucking die.
    (I do not mean it's citizens.)

     

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    Richard (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 7:20am

    Turkey?


    Now US Wants Transatlantic Free Trade Agreement With European Union To Include Turkey:


    Does this mean they don't know the difference between a trade agreement and a thanksgiving celebration?

     

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    Pixelation, Mar 19th, 2013 @ 7:45am

    Hey, why not SHAFTA Turkey too?

     

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    RyanNerd (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 8:27am

    Re:

    When has the US ever done this? They stumble from one war into another war like a drunken giant.

    The war on...

    Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Cyberthreats, Terror, Drugs, (fill in the blank).

    Sad thing is. I'm American.

    I wish the US would concentrate on its own problems (trillions of dollars in debt and out of control government spending) instead of wasting time playing cops and robbers with the world.

     

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    RyanNerd (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 8:40am

    Re: A great example

    I think you posted about the wrong article.

     

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    tomxp411 (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 8:43am

    Bad idea...

    am I the only one who sees NAFTA as a disaster and thinks that free trade agreements benefit poorer nations a lot more than the richer ones?

    I don't think that free trade is our problem right now.

     

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    Jeffrey Nonken (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 11:16am

    Re: Re: Who's next?

    Luxembourg is next to go;
    and who knows? Maybe Monaco.
    We'll try to stay serene and calm...
    When Alabama gets the bomb!
    Who's next, who's next, who's next...
    Who's Next?

     

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    bikey, Mar 20th, 2013 @ 7:27am

    Lots of dumb comments here. Turkey borders on the EU (many members of which are 'far from the Atlantic') and has since 1995 been in a Customs Union with the EU. While I am not in favor of this agreement (it seems to fulfill part of the EU's death wish, but that's their business) to imply that the inclusion of Turkey is beyond the pale is crazy.

     

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    go Turkey, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 4:12am

    Re: Re: Turkey has a customs union with the EU

    The line should go to where trade links go. Do not forget that Turkey is in the EU accession process apart from its Customs Union link. It already deserves to be treated fairly.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 15th, 2013 @ 6:08am

    Re: Re: Who's next?

    Greenlands already a province of Denmark, they are automatically in.

     

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    Niall (profile), Apr 16th, 2013 @ 1:46am

    Re: Re: Who's next?

    Well, they both border the Atlantic, at least! That's one-up on Turkey...

     

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    Niall (profile), Apr 16th, 2013 @ 1:55am

    Re: Re: Re: Who's next?

    Possibly, they have a pretty unique status in the EU since 1985 so it might be complicated.

     

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    kunle olaniyan, Jul 26th, 2013 @ 3:58pm

    free trade agreement

    What is the benefit to Eu and us if implemenet

     

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