Professional Boxer Gets Trolled On Twitter, Shows Up At Guy's House

from the for-whom-the-bell-trolls dept

Sadly, for my purposes at least, internet trolls aren't always as entertaining as the antics of On press Inc. In fact, often times childish and uncreative trolling can produce some really unfortunate results. In particular, I'm recalling the twitter troll whose efforts culminated in a SWAT team and TV crew showing up at the wrong guy's house. That story aside, there is a certain amount of truth to the notion that anonymity can spark horrific behavior, with keyboard cowboys feeling safe in saying incredibly hurtful things to people. Twitter couples that occasion with a connection to public figures, allowing those who wish to, to engage in trollish and hurtful behavior with the rich and famous. Typically, those attempts are shrugged off by targets, and often times the shrugging off is done by whichever PR team is handling the celebrity's Twitter feed. Those that man their own Twitter posts can always use the helpful "block" button to keep the worst aggressors at bay.

Or you can go the Curtis Woodhouse route, which is to sleuth your way to finding the street the troll lives on and go hunting. And if any trolls out there don't think this is a scary enough prospect on its own, consider that Woodhouse is a professional boxer. To be fair to the troll, his tweets aren't the worst I've seen:

@woodhousecurtis Haha u lost u silly mug fight a 10 year old next time if u want to actually win u waste of spunk
— the master (@jimmyob88) March 11, 2013
And:
@woodhousecurtis Whats funny u put so much effort in sacrificed all that time and failed to defend your mickey mouse title #wasteofspunk
— the master (@jimmyob88) March 11, 2013
As I noted, certainly not nice, but not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time. I'm not particularly sure what this guy thought he was getting out of antagonizing a professional boxer on Twitter, but I can be certain he didn't think this was going to happen.
Unfortunately for the troll, Woodhouse decided that he wasn't going to take such abuse sitting down. Somehow, he managed to discover what street his antagonist lives on, and he set out to pay him a visit while mercilessly live-tweeting his trip.
Oops. Woodhouse live-tweeted all the way up to parking on the guy's street, indicating that he was "coming over for a brew" and asking anyone who knew to tell him what number house he lived at, so that he wouldn't have to "knock on every door." Predictably, the troll first went silent, and then moved on to the kind of apologies reserved for someone who knows they are about to meet a pissed off pugilist face to face.

Now, it would be quite easy to side with Woodhouse here and think that scaring the hell out of a troll would be a satisfying thing. But that would be short-sighted and stupid. Woodhouse is a professional athlete and a public persona and, if he wants to continue that career, he needs to learn pretty quickly that there are people out there who are going to say mean things. That's what the "block" button is for. In my mind at least, tracking down a member of the tweeting public instead only makes him look like a loon. Additionally, I would have to think that it makes him a prime target for future trolling.



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    Atkray (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:03pm

    TOR

    VPN?

    Can we get someone to show this guy how to change his snowflake?

    Oh wait, this shows how bad online anonymity is. :/

     

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      Ccomp5950 (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:01pm

      Re: TOR

      Using TOR or VPN won't save you if you post other identifying information associated with your username.

      About 10 years ago I used to be an Administrator on a Teen Christian Advise website. We also had a section for people who self-harmed. Every now and again someone would go from talking about their problems to outright suicide notes and that is when I would start doing a bit of google-fu and call local authorities to get that person help.

      The thing about the internet is we are creatures of habit, and we're not that good at being vigilant about our anonymity. In one post someone might say what state they are in, in another they may say what town, in some forum game talking about your "Gang Name" you may let lose what street you live on. Or you might have different email accounts (yahoo, msn) tied in to that forum account that I could google and pull up other online identities of you and spread the search out even more. I'm a terrible example of all this because if you see "Ccomp5950" anywhere online unless it's Dark Helmet being an ass and signing up under my name on such wonderful sites as "Spank me Gently.com" "I pee freely.net".

      Go look through my techdirt postings. I'm pretty open with the fact I could throw a rock at the Federal courthouse here in Marshall Texas (disclaimer: that's not a terroristic threat, I won't be throwing rocks, I am saying that should I be inclined I have the capability to do so")

       

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    weneedhelp (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:09pm

    WOW

    If he cant take that puny little abuse, then he just needs to close every social network account he has and stay off the internet.

     

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    Machin Shin (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:21pm

    Trolls like that can be kind of annoying, but wow, how stupid do you have to be to go after a troll like that? Live tweeting your search for the troll seems like good way to hasten departure from this world.

    Think of how it would go for the troll if he just sat and waited for this boxer to come pounding down the door. He could shoot the guy and easily claim self defense using the boxers own tweets as proof.

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:42pm

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      Most people in the UK aren't packing firearms at all times, nor do the laws allow them to shoot guys they don't like knocking on their door.

       

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        Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:24pm

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        "nor do the laws allow them to shoot guys they don't like knocking on their door."

        You assume this guy was just knocking on the door to say "you're an ass" and walk away. You're also assuming that the person in the home knew that there was no threat. If I had a boxer tracking me down looking for a "brew" after a dumb ass insult, I'd be carrying a weapon, improvised or otherwise.

        I would assume that the UK has laws that let people defend themselves in threatening situations. I would qualify a boxer coming after me as possibly life threatening.

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:41pm

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          A brew is a cup of tea, no need for inverted commas.

           

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            Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:47pm

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            There are a few different definitions of "brew". One is to brew tea or coffee or even beer. Another is a fight, or a brewhaha.

            Even if the boxer said he was coming over for a cup of tea, I'd still qualify it as a threat. You can't track people down who insult you and expect them to not think you're a threat.

             

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              Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 3:46pm

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              Regardless of the threat you still cannot legally shoot someone for coming to your property, at least not in the UK.

              Also, in the UK a brew is almost universally understood to be a cup of tea.

               

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                Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:07pm

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                "Regardless of the threat you still cannot legally shoot someone for coming to your property, at least not in the UK."

                Heh. I'm from Texas, cops tell you you're in the right if you feel threatened here. (And they usually add, when asked, that it would be in your best interest to shoot to kill. As in make sure you kill the person. Otherwise you may find yourself potentially in trouble with the authorities and/or on the receiving end of a lawsuit.

                 

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                  Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:26pm

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                  Maybe they're like the cops in the "Thin Blue Line", telling you what you can get away with if you're in good with them and you have a bad feeling. But maybe it doesn't work like that for everyone?

                   

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                  Mikael (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 8:08pm

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                  dude, you need to read up on the castle doctrine and stand your ground law. I too live in Texas and a cop will not tell you that "you're in the right if you feel threatened". http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htm
                  "A person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor [he] reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor [himself] against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force." It goes on to say that "the actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:", and then it lists some scenarios.

                  In Texas (and any other state with the same law) that part is where this troll would not be able to use it as a defense were he to shoot and kill the guy for coming on to his property. The belief that the force was necessary is only reasonable if the actor "did not provoke the person against whom the force was used".

                  The trolling was the provocation. The law provides Civil Immunity, but that's only if the force used was deemed justified.

                   

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                    Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2013 @ 4:41am

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                    Okay, well what a cop is supposed to tell you and what some will tell you are two different things.

                    We, as in my family and a few friends, have personally had police officers tell us that. I always thought it sounded weird coming from cops.

                    I mean, come on, it's not as if cops have never said or done things that were contradictory to the law, right? /s

                     

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                John Fenderson (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:37pm

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                Also, in the UK a brew is almost universally understood to be a cup of tea.


                You learn something new every day. To me, a "brew" means one thing and one thing only: a beer.

                 

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                  art guerrilla (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 7:37pm

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                  next thing you know, them limey's will insist a 'biscuit' is a 'cookie'...
                  geez, no wonder we moved away...
                  hee hee hee
                  ho ho ho
                  ha ha ha
                  ak ak ak

                  art guerrilla
                  aka ann archy
                  eof

                   

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                  Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 8:00pm

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                  Same here O_O

                  I guess brew now means you're butt hurt over a Twitter Rambo.

                   

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                  Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2013 @ 4:30am

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                  it comes from the same root, actualy: beer is brewed, and when you leave the teabag in the cup so the tea is properly infused, the cup of tea is said to be brewing.

                   

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              It's "brouhaha", actually.

              brouhaha
              (brōō-hä-hä)
              n. An uproar; a hubbub.
              French, of imitative origin.]

               

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            Wally (profile), Mar 13th, 2013 @ 12:32am

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            In the US a brew means two things...looking for a fight....or to have a serious discussion with a person over a pint of beer about their behavior.

             

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:24pm

    Oh man it is so tempting to troll this guy now. Must...resist....urge...aaargghhh.

     

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    BentFranklin (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:25pm

    Where's the end of the story? Did they have that brew? Maybe meeting face to face got them both to cool down and hear each others' feelings now they're friends and the tweeter is the boxer's biggest fan.

     

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    silverscarcat (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:27pm

    And people wonder why...

    I'm for anonymity on the internet.

    It's things like this that proves the first rule you learned back in the 90s still rings true.

    "Never give out your personal information unless shopping online."

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:31pm

    And what happens if the troll doesn't live in your country, or isn't at home, or doesn't answer the door, or calls the police, or happens to be a little girl?

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2013 @ 4:46am

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      in order: 1) give up, or I suppose if you are REALLY pissed off, take a trip t the troll's country. 2) wait for the troll to return home? 3) not much you can do. 4) you're screwed.

       

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    Brent (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:33pm

    I would like to believe the boxer was clever enough to make up all his tweets about getting closer and closer, he could have even found that picture of the guy's street sign on the internet and not gone anywhere. However, he probably did get all the way up to that street sign after an hour+ driving.

     

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    out_of_the_blue, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:33pm

    @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

    How coy of you, Timmy. It's as though you didn't use to strive to be vile enough to run people off this site.

    Here's what Timmy directed at me, going out of his way several times solely to troll me in a lapsed item where I was amusing myself (with good cause):
    "There are white people, and then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you...."

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110621/16071614792/misconceptions-free-abound-why-do- brains-stop-zero.shtml#c1869

    By the way, anyone wanting to really understand Mike's notion of "can't compete with free" should read that through.

     

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      RD, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:39pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      Shut the fuck up troll before we come to YOUR house!

      /s

       

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      Dark Helmet (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:45pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      Yup, I was trolling you on that page w/a quote from Barack Obama, which is what you quoted above. I was actually just pulling random quotes out of my head for fun. We all do things we're not incredibly proud of at times. Sorry I trolled you.

      Now that that's out of the way, you want to apologize for the constant demeaning comments, including your odd use of "Timmy", or is this apology going to be completely one-sided?

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:55pm

        Re: Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

        What else do you expect from the lineup of chickens, including one jackass that can't bear to leave the site even after promising to do so when apologised to?

         

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        Ninja (profile), Mar 13th, 2013 @ 3:13am

        Re: Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

        And then there was silence.

         

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:00pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      So I guess you saying "Dick Helmet" every time he writes an article, or even when he doesn't and when you bring him up randomly, is okay?

      Hypocrisy, thy name is blue.

      And, in his defense, you are an ignorant motherfucker. And you're most definitely a few fries short of a happy meal/not the sharpest knife in the drawer/not the brightest color in the box/etc.

      [offers you a tissue because your incredibly thin skinned and still apparently upset about a comment that was said in jest ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO]

       

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      G Thompson (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:32pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      I'm coming after you blue

      I'm nearly there

      Yep I can see your place in the distance

      Can you hear me yet Blue

      Hear that horn... that was me

      Close now blue


      Fuckit!! fell off your bridge trying to get underneath!

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 6:29pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      Do you keep a spreadsheet to link back to this stuff or something? Your level of dedication is impressive. Keep up the good work. You should send me your MAC address so I can keep up with all your stuff. 10/10 would crazy again!

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 7:34pm

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      You really do need help of the professional variety.

       

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      dennis deems (profile), Mar 13th, 2013 @ 8:28am

      Re: @ "not unlike the kind of thing we see in our own comments section from time to time."

      I wasn't yet a regular visitor here back then. My god Blue, how in hell do you have the time to write the vast amount of text you've posted to this site? What do you live on? Section 8? Trust fund? Song royalties?

       

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    Robert (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:41pm

    Fake.

    Obvious fake, 30 miles in 13 minutes? That's 139mph.

     

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      Robert (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:45pm

      Re: Fake.

      Misread that, 47 minutes, then 17 miles.

      17 miles in 40 minutes: 25mph. Gurr.

      I suppose he could have done that. Would be better if he just faked it, estimating 25mph average.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:43pm

    Self defense

    I've sometimes wondered what I'd do if somebody threatened to pay me a visit for some real or imagined offense. The answer involves a call to police, security cameras, a gun, and a good lawyer.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:48pm

    It's like the end of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back... Would have been funnier if he chased the troll down the street though.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 1:57pm

    Don't he have neighbors?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:04pm

    Boxer should have beat his ass

    I think if people actually had the fear that the person they are talking shit about will show up on their doorstep and beat this shit out of them....they will stop talking so much shit.

    Im all down for Freedom of speech, but that has just been abused so that people can say whatever they want whenever they want.

    Think 10-15 years ago, if the person wanted to say shit he would have had to to the boxer's face for a reaction....and the boxer would have been in his rights to knock the prick on his ass.

    Frankly, I wish the boxer had actually run into the troll...would teach that troll a lesson

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:15pm

      Re: Boxer should have beat his ass

      "Think 10-15 years ago, if the person wanted to say shit he would have had to to the boxer's face for a reaction....and the boxer would have been in his rights to knock the prick on his ass."

      Actually, the boxer WOULD NOT have had the right to knock the "prick" on his ass.

      Which isn't to say he couldn't have done so, just that it's not a right either protected by the Constitution or other wise. Freedom of speech however is.

      Your rights end where others begin. As long as the speech is not causing or inciting others to cause physical harm to themselves or others or in any way defamatory, it's protected. Even if it is insulting or hurtful.

      Being a celebrity or in the public eye (like a politician or law enforcement officer) will always result in criticism from others, if you can't handle it for whatever reason you can find a new profession. It doesn't give you the right to essentially stalk someone and threaten them with bodily harm. At that point, you or whoever pose more of a threat and should be dealt with more severely by the law than the name caller. Public persona or not.

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:29pm

        Re: Re: Boxer should have beat his ass

        Still, there's a kind of sympathy he gets. People's feeling on a matter are not always determined by the Constitution though you can train yourself to it.

         

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    David Muir (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:10pm

    Incivility

    I don't know. I tend to think that, anonymous or not, if you're going to practice incivility, you can at some point expect an uncivil or even insane response.

    If you drive around honking and giving the finger to people all the time and one day you are the victim of road rage -- it doesn't make the road-rager right, but you might want to rethink your behavior nonetheless.

     

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    CrushU, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:16pm

    Maybe...

    He just wanted a free beer? :D

    Isn't this an example of, ahem, 'Connecting' with Fans?

    (For certain interpretations of 'Connecting')

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:21pm

    I'll just leave this here.

    http://www.ma3comic.com/d/20100708.html

     

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    AzureSky (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:22pm

    I once had an internet tough guy actually show up at my house after i counter trolled him into a blind rage, i even gave him my real addy, he about pissed himself when he saw me.....

    he was under the weird impression that people use pictures of themselves as their avatars on forums and messenger apps......LOL

    was quite funny he showed up and instead of a skinny little girl found a 6'1" erik the red looking mofo (big ginger viking lookin fellow) he suddenly went from rage to abject apology......his buddy he brought with him about pissed himself to.....it was a riot.....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:28pm

    "the master" is only the master of being a pussy internet tough guy. God Bless Mr. Woodhouse, a true hero. It's so hard to resort to words when fists are clearly the answer in almost every situation. Another pussy PC asshole put in his place when he can't hide behind a rule, his mom, or suing someone. Again, God Bless Mr. Woodhouse.

     

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    DogBreath, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:37pm

    What if...

    It turned out that the troll account belonged to Shayne ‘The Pain’ Singleton (The guy that recently beat him in a boxing match)?

    And more importantly, would M. Night Shyamalan be there to film it?

     

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    CrushU, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 2:41pm

    In All Seriousness

    While the implication of someone being able to drive up to your house because they took offense to something you said online is rightfully terrifying, this isn't something that should really be outlawed or made a big deal over. Online actions have more than online repercussions. Just as offline actions have online repercussions, it goes both ways.

    You can look at this as the boxer having a thin skin and getting offended enough to come to this guy's house... Or, you can look at it as the boxer knowing how to play the internet game, and specifically refusing to do physical harm to the name-caller. He clearly had the ability, and demonstrated he could, and then showed that he wouldn't and didn't. I believe everyone can agree that if the boxer ACTUALLY beat this guy up, this would deserve jail time or fines at the least.

    Intent matters strongly, here. And honestly? I have no problem with what the guy did. If someone shows up at my door because of something I said online, I'd kinda be ok with it. I did it, I have to live with it. It's one reason why I'm careful and respectful in my discussions online, (usually, at least) despite the fact that I rarely give out my location information. It's not hard to find things on the internet for sufficiently motivated persons.

    Overall I'm neutral to the article as a whole, despite usually enjoying Sir Helmet's work. There's no righteous indignation to be had here.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 12th, 2013 @ 4:15pm

    I disagree that the boxer's behavior was hypersensitive or out of touch with modernity. Indeed, I think it was really funny. By tweeting the entire episode,
    he was exhibiting transparency and showing a mastery of new media. Plus, he was connecting with fans. I'm with Woodhouse on this one.

     

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    madasahatter (profile), Mar 12th, 2013 @ 8:16pm

    Two minds

    While the troll should be punished some for his behavior I am not sure pounding him into pulp is the best idea for a professional boxer.

    The problem is that most trolls do not think they will ever face any consequences for their actions.

     

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    Wally (profile), Mar 13th, 2013 @ 12:37am

    Trolling at certain levels (such as the trolling in this case) and bullying are one in the same. There are things you never do in life, and trolling a professional boxer with a global championship title is not one of them. If it was pervasive (and trust me I have had personal experience being victimized by it) enough, and I had a way to confront the asshole face to face....I would have. It's not as if the person got beaten up when Woodson came knocking....

    Simply put, if you are dumb enough to taunt and troll a professional boxer on Twitter...you shouldn't be allowed on the Internet...at all.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2013 @ 4:23am

    That's an odd way of asking for a meet and greet.

     

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    Andrew D. Todd, Mar 13th, 2013 @ 5:34am

    Speech Versus Violent Acts.

    In the first place, Curtis Woodhouse is English, and these stirring events took place in England. That changes everything. For one thing, Americans of the rougher sort are likely to have firearms, and Englishmen generally aren't. There is perhaps a one in three chance that an American householder will be armed. English hooligans play at violence, but it isn't quite as serious with them.

    Woodhouse admits to having offered, on the internet, a reward of a thousand British pounds to whoever would find his taunter, with the intention that he could go and beat him up. That is only incrementally different from paying for a contract killing. By American standards, that would probably make him liable to federal conspiracy charges. At any rate, I suppose one of "jimmyob88"'s cronies probably sold him. At any rate, Woodhouse proposed to rampage down the street, breaking into different houses until he found his man. Obviously, in a fair number of cases, the person answering the door would have been a little old lady, and presumably Woodhouse would have assaulted said old lady, and forced his way into the house, searching for "jimmyob88." Otherwise, how could he be sure that the old lady was not shielding her grandson, "jimmyob88"? He was engaged in a fundamentally criminal errand. If he had tried that in the United States, some innocent bystander would surely have "capped" him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/12/english-boxer-curtis-woodhouse-twitter-troll

    http://storify.com/campbellwpaul/boxer-curtis-woodhouse-deals-with-twitter-troll

    Provocation is that which of significant magnitude that the person provoked can claim it as a full or partial defense for his own crimes. At any rate, the claim of provocation does not cover entering into a conspiracy. Provocation means a case in which someone is insulted, and responds with a direct assault. It has long been established that dueling is murder, pure and simple. An American court might very well take the view that Woodhouse wanted, for pecuniary reasons to maintain his reputation as a "tough guy," and that his pursuit of the taunter was therefore motivated by the desire for profit. Similar arguments have been raised in cases where a neighborhood gangster killed someone for no apparent reason.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(legal)

    The Texas statute cited by Mikael (#46) , referring to Provocation as a limit of Self Defense, is obviously intended to cover the case where A calls B a name, they both draw their guns more or less simultaneously, and A survives the shootout.

    Presumably, the Royal Police ought to be approaching Twitter to find out the names of the people who passed information to Woodhouse, so that they can be charged as accessories in R. v. Woodhouse. Curtis Woodhouse claims that his fists are superior to the law. The local Chief Constable either has to deal starkly with Curtis Woodhouse, or there will be no law. By observation in the next few days, I shall discover to what extent England has degenerated.

    I've lived in some fairly rough places in my time, and on an occasion, or three, I've had to tell professional tough guys to get lost, to take a hike. It's always a bit scary, because you never quite know whether the bad boy is packing a "rodney," but there's generally no alternative. One incident will do: Once upon a time, I was accosted on a Philadelphia street corner by an obviously fit young man, dressed in the style of a pimp-dandy, who wanted me to "give him something." I thought to myself, "Oh, S--t"; tensed myself to move instantly, to slam into him faster than he could draw his gun; looked him in the eye; and retorted: "Why should I?" The young man looked at me, and saw Death looking back at him, and backed off rapidly, holding his hands up in the air where I could see them, saying "no reason, man, no reason!" Just as I didn't know whether he had a rod or not, he didn't know whether I had a rod or not (I didn't), and he decided rather quickly that the hundred or two hundred dollars which might be in my wallet wasn't worth a roll of the dice with death. It was a rather ambiguous encounter. It was in broad daylight, in front of a store, but I suppose he relied on witnesses being intimidated.

    That said, I don't have any sympathy whatsoever for small-time boxers who think they can use their fists outside of the ring.

     

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    anon comment, Jun 13th, 2013 @ 4:22am

    this is awesome. trolls think they're always so safe behind their computers. I love when it backfires. just goes to show who they really are

     

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    DIYDeath, Aug 23rd, 2013 @ 9:38pm

    Re: Speech Versus Violent Acts.

    You're technically right, however Texas isn't Britain and even if it was the Boxer didn't touch the troll (to my knowledge). It's also not against the law to knock on someone's door and if you shoot someone while they are on your doorstep, announcing themselves you better expect jail time because that is 100% illegal.

    Lawyers can speculate and conjecture but unless there's cold, hard evidence to back it up it's nothing but smoke and mirrors (in reference to being motivated by profit) The Boxer was totally within his legal right, it would only be considered conspiracy if he actually made arrangements and even then, buying public information is not a crime but beating someone up without justification (such as self defense) is.

    Sorry for the necropost.

     

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    Russki-Arnyan, Aug 29th, 2013 @ 4:23pm

    Asshole troll got what he deserves, there should be nothing without a consequence and in the case of trolling, Fuck all Trolls! lol Bunch of punks, snob likely got their asses kicked at school and never amounted to anything in life. The Boxer did everyone a favor by putting that piece of shit back in place! Anyways all trolls are lame ass punks!

     

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    Paul, Nov 13th, 2013 @ 3:30am

    What purpose does it actually serve?

    Why are people like that towards others. It makes no sense and is not constructive in the least.

     

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