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Think Tank Behind SOPA Says USTR Should Make Sure TPP Includes IP Maximalist Positions

from the shameful dept

ITIF, the think tank that was often credited with coming up with the basic idea behind SOPA's horrifying plan to censor websites and break key parts of the basic DNS system (and, which we recently discovered, gets funding from the MPAA) is back and pushing for support of IP maximalism in the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement. It has re-released a report about how the TPP must be "the gold standard" in trade agreements -- with a key focus on stronger and more limiting IP rules. In a press release about this re-release, ITIF argues for a strong maximalist agenda in the TPP:
Entering into a sub-standard Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement that offers only weak intellectual property (IP) protections or permits countries to maintain mercantilist practices would be far worse than not joining the agreement
Of course, that's hilarious, because there's nothing more mercantilist in trade policy today than intellectual property rights. The basic concepts -- developed at the height of mercantilist fervor -- are all about protectionism for legacy players in the space. To argue in favor of stronger IP and against mercantilism makes no sense, because it's self-contradictory. Either ITIF is completely clueless on basic economics, or it's being intellectually dishonest. I can't tell which is worse.
U.S. trade negotiators should insist the TPP include the highest levels of intellectual property rights (IPR) protection, transparency in government procurement practices, removal of non-tariff barriers (NTBs), comprehensive market access provisions, and stringent enforcement mechanisms.
What's bizarre here is that, right after calling for IP maximalism, they immediately call for the removal of barriers and an increase in market access. You know what would actually do that? Ratcheting back the excesses of copyright and patent law. It's difficult to see how anyone can take ITIF seriously when they argue against themselves.


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    Skeptical Cynic (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 5:52am

    Article Edit

    Entering into a sub-standard Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement that offers only weak intellectual property (IP) protections or permits countries to maintain mercantilist practices would be far worse than not joining the agreement

    It should have said...

    Entering into any Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement that offers intellectual property (IP) protections permits countries to maintain mercantilist practices and would be far worse for everybody but the IP holders than not joining the agreement.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:00am

    While we are on the topic of extreme positions, I call for the abolishment of all intellectual property rights.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:02am

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    This is not an extreme position.

     

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    Vidiot (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:02am

    Can they make a case for this position in 8 minutes? Oh... wait... that's how much time WE get, not them. Rats.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:05am

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    Our side's presentation should be eight minutes of silence with one slide stating that the presentation can not be shown due to a DMCA takedown notice.

     

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    Ninja (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:08am

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    It's amusing we've come to the point that abolishing intellectual property rights is not considered an extreme measure.

     

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    Ninja (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:10am

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    This presentation was seized.

     

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    SujaOfJauhnral (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:18am

    More like think TANKED

    The words 'thinktank' shouldn't be let within 500,000 miles of ITIF and it's masters unless it's involves tanks blasting logical thinking too smithereens.

     

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    SujaOfJauhnral (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:19am

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    Bonus points if no one shows up.

     

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    Lowestofthekeys (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:20am

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    I would agree with you if not for my devastated lack of faith in humanity.

    I think reality tv has desensitized me to reality.

     

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    SujaOfJauhnral (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:25am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    I think reality tv has desensitized me to reality.

    Seeing (I think it was) Snooki getting out of bed with her hair going everywhere to drop a deuce at wheneverthehellshewakes and then complain on TV "it won't go down where's the plunger" would desensitize anyone I think.

     

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    Lowestofthekeys (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:31am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Not to derail, but I read a quote from her stating that she would not change her kid's dirty diapers...or cook for him, and would rather have a maid do it.

    It's time like these that the government needs to bring back forced sterilization.

    With reference to mercantilism, Hollywood is losing it's perspective when it focuses on saying things to please the government instead of the consumer.

     

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    Ed C., Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:31am

    For those who don't have the decoder ring, the ITIF is saying it wants other countries to abolish their mercantilist practices, opaque government procurement practices, and non-tariff barriers or other market access provisions, so that the ITIF can replace them with the highest levels of intellectual property rights protections that solely favor its members.

    [ To get your very own decoder ring, please send $5 to Ed C., c.o. Screw U. dept of International Business & Trade ]

     

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    Jeff_Vader_runs_the_Deathstar? (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:33am

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    Why would this be amusing?

    Do you also find it amusing that asbestos has been banned or that we track the eradication of polio?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:35am

    Well at least now I know Google's position on TPP. Thanks!!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:38am

    'U.S. trade negotiators should insist the TPP include the highest levels of intellectual property rights (IPR) protection, transparency in government procurement practices, removal of non-tariff barriers (NTBs), comprehensive market access provisions, and stringent enforcement mechanisms.'

    this is all only as far as the USA is concerned. if any other country, whether in the TPP agreement or not, tries to do the same, thereby limiting what the USA can get access to and can profit from, they will be stopped at all costs! Uncle Sam has spoken! ignore at your peril!!

     

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    The eejit (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 8:47am

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    I'm sorry, what?

    Reailty de-densitized me to reality TV. But idiots will always obtain power thought failing upwards.

    Just ask Ron Kirk.

     

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    Lowestofthekeys (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 9:26am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Bah, it's too early, I meant to say "devastated faith in humanity" which in turn is due to things like reality tv being produced.

    But mainly, I'm trying to say I'm apathetic to extremes or change because of...well, people like Ron Kirk.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 9:46am

    The phrase "trade barriers" encompasses far more than merely the absence or lax enforcement (if at all) of IP rights, e.g., domestic industry subsidies, discriminatory excise taxes for foreign goods, foreign offsets, etc., all of which are designed to favor domestic over foreign producers.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 9:52am

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    Forced sterilization? That's nuts. However, maybe it is a job for social services.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 11:23am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Or if MF eagles do show up

     

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    gorehound (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 12:00pm

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    Me too ! And Fuck Off Ron Kirk & USTR

     

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    Josh Taylor, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 12:31pm

    Better start go living in a Cave.

     

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    Brent (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:14pm

    Does anyone honestly believe that releasing this report is the only way ITIF works to achieve it's end goals? We know they get funding from the MPAA and we know the MPAA has serious influence and access to the TPP negotiations so what need is there to release this report at all when it seems the linking organization (MPAA) can directly impose the 'recommendations' from said report? It seems to me that this type of 'report' is merely a public announcement - a kind of perverted transparency measure for the TPP.

     

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    Morosoph, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 4:22pm

    Referring back to the article

    'Ratcheting back the excesses of copyright and patent law' falls somewhat short of 'abolishing intellectual property rights'.

    Few call for the latter, but many argue one one side only, since intellectual property law is increasingly leaning towards a clearly unbalanced position that demands correction. That there is 'push back' does not imply that those pushing back are at the other extreme: most would support IPR insofar as it advances the state of the art, and respects other fundamental rights.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 9:09pm

    Re: More like think TANKED

    They have been bought and paid for. They intend to stay bought, keep taking the money and serve their masters.

    "Either ITIF is completely clueless on basic economics, or it's being intellectually dishonest."

    They know perfectly well what they are up to. They can use basic economics or any other tool to serve their purposes. Their problem is not ignorance, their problem is dishonesty. Call them on the dishonesty every time. A better sentence might be:

    "ITIF is as well aware of basic economics as anybody else, so they are parading their intellectual dishonesty."

     

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    Steve, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 10:07pm

    Speak out about the TPP before it's too late

    The TPP is trap for Internet users just like SOPA was. Speak out now at: http://stopthetrap.net

     

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    Seegras (profile), Sep 3rd, 2012 @ 12:41pm

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    Translation: We're against trade barriers except the ones we introduce with intellectual property laws

     

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    Wendy Cockcroft (profile), Sep 4th, 2012 @ 7:18pm

    Corporate rights

    This is actually not a bunch of corporate potheads writing a report while stoned. They're trying a neurolinguistic trick to do the same job as using "consume" to describe watching a movie, listening to music, or reading a book.

    Most people don't do a double take when you describe the above activities as "consuming content."

    This time they're trying to push corporate rights a tidge further and get us to accept that the poor widdle co'powate people is bein' discwiminated against.

    Sorry, I lost IQ points typing that. It's such a stupid notion. But yeah, that's what it is: https://plus.google.com/115040231829422107651/posts/LwAujsgpFCj

    Expect people frightened of teh leftists to push the idea that discrimination against corporations is mean, cruel, and makes them cry. And by "discrimination" I mean "preventing them from shafting us."

     

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