If the AC just subscribed to the Mimi and Eunice RSS Feed, they'd know that Nina hadn't posted any new comics until recently. Seems like she might have been busy.
These trolls just aren't as dedicated as they used to be.
Bipartisan means that millionaires from both political parties will benefit financially from passage of the pork laden bill. It also means that future generations of tax payers will be screwed.
They need to start calling it Omnipartisan if they want my attention...
I'm neither a Republican or Democrat... what good does it do to "sell" me a bill that only has support from the two worst political parties in the world?
It does a lot of good if you're fully invested in the false dichotomy of Reps vs. Dems! Surely one of the two parties represent the entirety of your cut and dry and never changing or nuanced political views!
You can lead a member of the voting populace to the kool-aid but you can't make them drink...until we get this legislation passed outlawing water in favor of Brawndo!
Yes, Mike / Nina have nothing better to do than wait for you to post something retarded and based on no facts and then post an article a few hours later just to make you look like an idiot. /s
You poor deluded troll. You really think the world revolves around or gives a shit about your "observations"? I got some bad news for you, Sunshine. It doesn't.
Carry on indeed. We know you will. With the incessant comments that state nothing factual.
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Rabid idealogue? Have you looked around this place? Mike is still harboring the idea that the silly first amendment challenges to copyright are valid - even after the court slapped Lessig down so hard that he hasn't been heard from on it since.
Techdirt is an idealogue blog, plain and simple. Anyone who disagrees gets treated as you treat me: insults, name calling, and derogatory statements about my opinions.
So much for free speech, right? You would rather shout down those who object and exile them from the site, rather than deal with the issues.
Er, where did mike say that? I see him say that the proposed ways of enforcing it can stifle first amendment rights but that's not the same as what you're claiming.
Actually, I have seen Mike's version of debating, there isn't much to it. Most of the time, it starts with "you don't understand economics" or "you have no idea what you are talking about".
Mike talks a good game, but rarely addresses key issues.
One of the good ones: You know that whole idea of infinite distribution, right? He says it takes the "supply demand" calculation down to the point where things have zero marginal costs. However, he rarely mentions that one of the things that comes with that supply / demand theory is a big asterix that says "this does not work properly with items that have no real marginal costs". In other words, the very theory he uses to support his views doesn't work. He knows it, he ignores it.
First amendment and copyright - Mike's stand has always been that copyright should be knocked down by the 1st amendment. He learned that idea from Lessig, I think. Well, Lessig got his dick slammed in the dirt in the courts over this one, nearly a unanimous decision to send him packing. Yet, Mike has never come out and said "that is a dead issue, copyright is consitutional". He just let's it linger, because it doesn't work for him.
Mike does have one very important skill. He knows how to baffle them with bullshit. He piles it so high, so wide, and spikes it with just enough verifiable fact as to make it look whole. It's not, but he's good at it, and good at presenting it.
I bow down to his shit shoveling skills. They are near the top.
........Is an excuse for poloititions trying to hide their own curruption.
........Something only the public can maintain
........Gives one side the power to endorse a weak candidate for the other to keep their pockets lined and thenselves in power (most republicans actually wanted Santorum, not Romney).
........'s true meaning is both public and congressional approval.
Nina's cartoon depicts exactly how I feel about my government right now.
You know, I don't really get involved in the debates between "trolls" and Techdirt fans and all I do is read them (most of the time I quickly skip to more insightful discussions).
But take it from me:
I see a few people who post here and who have ideas that disagree with Techdirt (and I assume you are one of them, at least in the context of thread).
What I rarely if ever see from the people is constructive criticism. What I mostly see is name-calling, personal attacks, ignoring the other party's arguments instead of responding to them and in some cases complete lies and made up facts.
Your posts in this thread are no different and I'm going to support this with a few examples:
"Techdirt is an idealogue blog, plain and simple. Anyone who disagrees gets treated as you treat me: insults, name calling, and derogatory statements about my opinions."
--- You are trying to make a point, which I am fine with, but you offer no evidence, not a single quote from other comments. It just doesn't persuade me so I see this discussion as nothing more than a verbal fight between you and the other posters. ---
"So much for free speech, right? You would rather shout down those who object and exile them from the site, rather than deal with the issues."
--- Now here, as a neutral observer of the regular exchanges between Pro- and Anti- Techdirt folk (or whatever you want to call yourselves), I have to disagree with your assertion. I've seen a lot of stuff posted here by the anti-Techdirt folk that was not constructive and sometimes offensive (personal attacks) yet none of it was deleted, removed or otherwise censored. To hear you say that people here are trying to censor you is absolutely not convincing to me and makes it harder to take you seriously. ---
"Mike is proud of you. You ate his shit whole."
--- Vulgarity really doesn't help me take you seriously. ---
I was recently visiting another website where I heard the arguments of people who have opinions that are opposed to Techdirt's, and I found that some people were making really good points and this led me to rethink about copyright and related issues. However, nobody who has been posting on Techdirt has managed to do that yet, so maybe there's actually a problem with the way the anti-Techdirt folk are arguing.
Now I'd like to clarify a few things:
- I'm not trying to prove you wrong or argue against you. I'm only trying to offer you some feedback, because I think it would be great if we could have constructive discussions on Techdirt and hear both sides' ideas and arguments. And my feedback is: the people who disagree with Techdirt just aren't convincing even to a neutral party like me. And it's not your position that is the issue, it's the way you argue. Hopefully you will take this into consideration and things will change for the better.
- There are pro-Techdirt folk who do the same mistakes I've said you're doing, however the reason I'm not calling them out is because there are enough pro-Techdirt folk who debate constructively. The issue with the anti-Techdirt folk is that ALL those who post here are not constructive, at least from what I have seen. And before accusing me of bias, please remember what I mentioned above: I've seen very interesting arguments supporting your opinions on other websites. Arguments which gave me something to think about. My problem is, I don't see those arguments or the same constructive debate here on Techdirt.
- Finally, I'm aware that you feel persecuted here and thus it's normal for you to be quite defensive. However, you've reached a point where you no longer even convince neutral folk like me who want to hear both sides of the story and don't want to be biased. It would be good if you could get over the attacks you are receiving and remain constructive in your discussions so that neutral people could learn from you; but if you cannot do this, then perhaps it's time to give up and stop posting here - after all, if you've become so defensive that you can't convince anyone anymore, then why keep it up? It won't achieve anything.
Looking at past posts by Mike, he also explains WHY you don't know what you're talking about whenever he says you don't know what you're talking about.
Or posts links to when he explained it in an earlier post.
silverscarcat: Even Italians are calling the U.S. a police state. dennis deems: ? google search yields nothing silverscarcat: I got it on my first attempt. Should be the top result. Rikuo: Jeebus, you'd think ISPs would have learned about data caps My ISP, Digiweb, has just announced three Fibre plans, 70Mb down, 20Mb up. First two plans though have 70GB and 200GB caps respectively, which is ridiculous for such high speeds. For the high price of 80 euro/month, I can get unlimited bandwidth Thing is, I've learned to be wary, so I click on Terms and Conditions, to see what their definition of unlimited is...only to be met by an error page saying my IP address had been blocked silverscarcat: Well... That sucks. :( ... Whut? Water balloons? ... Seriously?! I think I need to get some, fill them with oil-based paint and throw them all over that school. Rikuo: huh...was finally able to read the Terms and Conditions. Nowhere is mentioned a hidden definition of unlimited Christopher Best: Now what did I miss on DoJ and Department of Edu? Don't see what article (if any) you guys are referring to... silverscarcat: Well, since you guys can't seem to find it... http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/the-fire-the-government-has-mandated-speech-codes-on-all-campuses/ Mike Masnick: we have an article upcoming about that, which ssc appears to be undermining by revealing to all of you. ;) Rikuo: DEATH TO THE HERETIC /sarcmarc Christopher Best: Wow, just when I thought there was no way to make college campuses more intolerant... silverscarcat: Well, Mike, I'm glad that you had it in the upcoming posts, I called my senators and rep today about it right after I read it. Jay: Wow... Some Guy created a new form of acronym for the DMCA. Automated Rights Trampling System. I think I'll use ARTS from now on. silverscarcat: Well, this is so true. Someone needs to tell their Senators that they're fulfilling what Bin Laden said in 2001. "I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life." - Osama Bin Laden, in sole post 9/11 interview
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Can't wait for him to keep posting mindless ad homs at nina/mike and persist with saying retarded shit
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She is, busy with her new movie "Seder Masochism".
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What Does Bipartisan Really Mean?
Adjective. Abbreviation for: "One can buy both major US parties off for insanely low prices".
Definition(s): Firesale on democracy; Fucked beyond all repair (FUBAR).
Typical Usage: The US political system is completely bipartisan.
Synonyms: useless, dead.
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Bipartisan is an outdated term
I'm neither a Republican or Democrat... what good does it do to "sell" me a bill that only has support from the two worst political parties in the world?
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Also, republicrats? Wasn't it republicunts? Damn name changs
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Taking Big Money and screwing the Public is their Business of Choice.
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You can lead a member of the voting populace to the kool-aid but you can't make them drink...until we get this legislation passed outlawing water in favor of Brawndo!
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I have to say I am suspecting that this is just Mike / Nina trying to look smart by answering my observations.
Carry on. The cartoons aren't any better (smarter), still the same.
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You poor deluded troll. You really think the world revolves around or gives a shit about your "observations"? I got some bad news for you, Sunshine. It doesn't.
Carry on indeed. We know you will. With the incessant comments that state nothing factual.
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Gotta love over inflated ego
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Mike is so obvious it's painful.
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It usually means the public is bent over and given what for...
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Congressional approval ratings
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Why are you even on this site? It's blatently clear you're a rabid ideologue with an anti-techdirt bais
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Rabid idealogue? Have you looked around this place? Mike is still harboring the idea that the silly first amendment challenges to copyright are valid - even after the court slapped Lessig down so hard that he hasn't been heard from on it since.
Techdirt is an idealogue blog, plain and simple. Anyone who disagrees gets treated as you treat me: insults, name calling, and derogatory statements about my opinions.
So much for free speech, right? You would rather shout down those who object and exile them from the site, rather than deal with the issues.
Mike is proud of you. You ate his shit whole.
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Mike himself debates people on the issues and it's usually him who is on the recieving end of namecalling.
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Mike talks a good game, but rarely addresses key issues.
One of the good ones: You know that whole idea of infinite distribution, right? He says it takes the "supply demand" calculation down to the point where things have zero marginal costs. However, he rarely mentions that one of the things that comes with that supply / demand theory is a big asterix that says "this does not work properly with items that have no real marginal costs". In other words, the very theory he uses to support his views doesn't work. He knows it, he ignores it.
First amendment and copyright - Mike's stand has always been that copyright should be knocked down by the 1st amendment. He learned that idea from Lessig, I think. Well, Lessig got his dick slammed in the dirt in the courts over this one, nearly a unanimous decision to send him packing. Yet, Mike has never come out and said "that is a dead issue, copyright is consitutional". He just let's it linger, because it doesn't work for him.
Mike does have one very important skill. He knows how to baffle them with bullshit. He piles it so high, so wide, and spikes it with just enough verifiable fact as to make it look whole. It's not, but he's good at it, and good at presenting it.
I bow down to his shit shoveling skills. They are near the top.
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Bipartisanship...
........Something only the public can maintain
........Gives one side the power to endorse a weak candidate for the other to keep their pockets lined and thenselves in power (most republicans actually wanted Santorum, not Romney).
........'s true meaning is both public and congressional approval.
Nina's cartoon depicts exactly how I feel about my government right now.
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But take it from me:
I see a few people who post here and who have ideas that disagree with Techdirt (and I assume you are one of them, at least in the context of thread).
What I rarely if ever see from the people is constructive criticism. What I mostly see is name-calling, personal attacks, ignoring the other party's arguments instead of responding to them and in some cases complete lies and made up facts.
Your posts in this thread are no different and I'm going to support this with a few examples:
"Techdirt is an idealogue blog, plain and simple. Anyone who disagrees gets treated as you treat me: insults, name calling, and derogatory statements about my opinions."
--- You are trying to make a point, which I am fine with, but you offer no evidence, not a single quote from other comments. It just doesn't persuade me so I see this discussion as nothing more than a verbal fight between you and the other posters. ---
"So much for free speech, right? You would rather shout down those who object and exile them from the site, rather than deal with the issues."
--- Now here, as a neutral observer of the regular exchanges between Pro- and Anti- Techdirt folk (or whatever you want to call yourselves), I have to disagree with your assertion. I've seen a lot of stuff posted here by the anti-Techdirt folk that was not constructive and sometimes offensive (personal attacks) yet none of it was deleted, removed or otherwise censored. To hear you say that people here are trying to censor you is absolutely not convincing to me and makes it harder to take you seriously. ---
"Mike is proud of you. You ate his shit whole."
--- Vulgarity really doesn't help me take you seriously. ---
I was recently visiting another website where I heard the arguments of people who have opinions that are opposed to Techdirt's, and I found that some people were making really good points and this led me to rethink about copyright and related issues. However, nobody who has been posting on Techdirt has managed to do that yet, so maybe there's actually a problem with the way the anti-Techdirt folk are arguing.
Now I'd like to clarify a few things:
- I'm not trying to prove you wrong or argue against you. I'm only trying to offer you some feedback, because I think it would be great if we could have constructive discussions on Techdirt and hear both sides' ideas and arguments. And my feedback is: the people who disagree with Techdirt just aren't convincing even to a neutral party like me. And it's not your position that is the issue, it's the way you argue. Hopefully you will take this into consideration and things will change for the better.
- There are pro-Techdirt folk who do the same mistakes I've said you're doing, however the reason I'm not calling them out is because there are enough pro-Techdirt folk who debate constructively. The issue with the anti-Techdirt folk is that ALL those who post here are not constructive, at least from what I have seen. And before accusing me of bias, please remember what I mentioned above: I've seen very interesting arguments supporting your opinions on other websites. Arguments which gave me something to think about. My problem is, I don't see those arguments or the same constructive debate here on Techdirt.
- Finally, I'm aware that you feel persecuted here and thus it's normal for you to be quite defensive. However, you've reached a point where you no longer even convince neutral folk like me who want to hear both sides of the story and don't want to be biased. It would be good if you could get over the attacks you are receiving and remain constructive in your discussions so that neutral people could learn from you; but if you cannot do this, then perhaps it's time to give up and stop posting here - after all, if you've become so defensive that you can't convince anyone anymore, then why keep it up? It won't achieve anything.
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It's an honest question by the way.
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When the reps do something it's usually evil.
Bipartisan means it's both dumb and evil.
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Or posts links to when he explained it in an earlier post.
Or links to where some else explained it.
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