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Obama Administration Threatens To Veto CISPA
from the in-no-uncertain-terms dept
Yesterday, the Guardian reported that the Obama administration officially opposed CISPA—but they also noted that there was no mention of the V-word. Now that's changed. The executive office just released a statement which says in no uncertain terms that they will be pushing for a veto of the bill:
Legislation should address core critical infrastructure vulnerabilities without sacrificing the fundamental values of privacy and civil liberties for our citizens, especially at a time our Nation is facing challenges to our economic well-being and national security. The Administration looks forward to continuing to engage with the Congress in a bipartisan, bicameral fashion to enact cybersecurity legislation to address these critical issues. However, for the reasons stated herein, if H.R. 3523 were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill.
The administration's concerns mirror those of civil liberties groups, and could be (partially) addressed by some of the amendments we looked at earlier. But hopefully this clear statement from the White House provides the necessary final push to stop CISPA in its tracks and start working on a better security bill with the help of people who actually know what they're doing.
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Here's a better amendment!
Proposed and passed legislation must meet these 3 criteria:
1) May not be more than 2000 words.
2) Must be understandable by any literate citizen of average education level.
3) If titled, the title must clearly and accurately reflect the purpose of the bill.
Failing any of these criteria will mean the bill could not be passed into law.
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Too many politicians think they HAVE to vote CISPA through no matter how bad the bill is. Why? Since it's just 6 months till the election, and you wouldn't want to be blamed for a cyber security attack on the US so close to an election now would you? Just voting against a bill with 'cyber information' and 'protection' in the name would cause your opponent to run attack ads saying you don't take cyber security seriously.
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Maybe giving a large vocal group of people a reason to work together against them would be a bad idea.
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So let's add up the score
+1 for this veto threat on CISPA
+1 for his stance on SOPA
-1 For signing the NDAA
-1 for signing the Partiot Act renewal
-1 for prosecuting whistle blowers
That count alone leave Obama in the red for me.
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-1 for signing ACTA
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Now we are back to your mamma?
Does your mom know you are using the computer?
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Here, once.
We forget about this:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120316/00101618123/senators-tell-obama-administration-to-r eveal-its-secret-interpretation-patriot-act.shtml
or this:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120322/16372918216/doj-signs-new-rules-to-let-intelligence -officials-access-store-search-more-info-about-us-citizens.shtml
or this:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120125/12034817541/state-union-address-highlights-dirty-tr ick-hiding-more-draconian-ip-rules-trade-agreements.shtml
and on and on:
http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?q=obama&tid=&aid=&start=30&searchin=stories
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Forgot that one too.
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Just like our Corporations are People Government would do.Take a step forward then two backwards.
Probably be the same thing if it was a GOP President.
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read it carefully
This isn't OBAMA saying he will veto it. It says his senior advisers will RECOMMEND he veto it. He can just as easily ignore them and sign it anyway. He's not making any promises, so don't get pulled in by a superficial show of support.
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Oh, wait change was the promise he kept: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hope-and-change-gas-prices-have-gone-67-percent-obama-became-pre sident_553930.html
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The people to ask (slight recap of post from another thread)
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Yea it would - they'd call it anti-pornography, or anti-terrorism (even more than what we've heard so far). It would be part of a huge marketing and talking point campaign that even 1/3 (or more) of the democrats would join in on "for the good of the nation". They'd pick some color of ribbon to tie around trees and order car magnets from China. It would be "unpatriotic" to oppose - treasonist even. They would call "anti-circumvention" technology the growth industry of the future, put Blackwater (AXE now), Haliburton, or whatever corporate chummies they had handy in charge of no bid, multi-million dollar contracts that never expire. You know the drill.
Ron Paul is a social conservative and just as likely to do the same only call it "anti-porn" and for "the good of society". It's impossible to debate faulty logic and "faith". At least this way there is a chance to argue over actual merits.
Politics always seems to be a lessor of the evils.
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Also, this doesn't mean one of the other legislations won't go through and pass giving more power to another branch. This is really all a wrangling for position.
TL;DR the AC is right...
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Another bill
Yea - I know. That's sounds like a punch line for a joke.
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No more bills like "Fight pedophilia (and extend copyright terms until the heat death of the universe)"
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Unfortunately, many of those amendments have their own issues. One even offers -- I kid you not -- a promise to "develop" policies and procedures that will protect individual privacy and civil liberties... after the bill is passed.
It's okay. Trust us.
More at http://www.iSights.org/2012/04/president-obama-threatens-to-veto-cispa-authors-brush-off-threat.html
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True, but the OP doesn't say Obama is threatening a veto. It's saying the Obama administration is, which is true (although weaker than we would hope).
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"Yea it would ... You know the drill."
You left out the vagina patrol.
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2. Are those same people the ones now saying keyboard warriors can bring about the end of the world as we know it?
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The us government is supposed to be comprised of three branches; executive, legislative, judicial. One of these branches passes a bill, one of these branches signs the bill into law ..... does any of this ring a bell?
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