Homeland Security Denies Entrance To UK Tourist Because Of Twitter Joke

from the so-sorry,-too-bad dept

I am actually writing this post sitting in a French airport, getting ready to board my flight back to the US... but I think I'll hang onto it and post once I'm back in town. That's because it's about some UK tourists who were taking a little vacation to the US... until Homeland Security refused them entrance, because one of them had joked on Twitter about digging up the grave of Marilyn Monroe and "destroying" America (by which he meant partying). Apparently, DHS has figured out how to monitor Twitter... but hasn't figured out what a sense of humor is. (And yes, I made it home and through customs without any trouble).


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    Violated (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 3:45am

    Its a bomb!

    I am only left wondering if they will let him in on the next visit if he is good between now and then?

    He at least got off lightly compared to one UK teenager who sent email of vile abuse to both Congress and the Whitehouse saying some very nasty things about the United States.

    What was their reply you may wonder? They had the UK Government send a Police Officer around his house to inform him he had just got a lifetime ban from ever entering the United States.

    He claims he could not remember what he wrote.

     

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    John Doe, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 3:54am

    The really scary part

    The really scary part is how did the DHS know about the tweets? Are they monitoring all tweets?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 3:55am

    In many latin languages the same word for pump also means bomb, so I heard a story about a Brazilian guy who was asthmatic and when the customs agent asked what that was he said is an "Asthma Bomb" and was tacked right there and then.

    That would make a great comedy sketch.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:06am

    Has this ever happened before? I mean, barred from entering the US simply because of one thing the DHS freaks out over? I can understand barring some fundamentalist Islamic imam if he's constantly preaching hate speech, but jeez...this guy just said the word destroy once!

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:12am

    Re: The really scary part

    In a word... Yes.

    It might just be part of their program run by General Dynamics looking for certain words and phrases, mostly focused on finding people talking poorly about them.

    http://techlaw.justia.com/2012/01/13/dhs-contracted-with-general-dynamics-1-16m-to-monitor- fb-twitter-blogs-news-comments/

    EPIC Sues DHS Over Covert Surveillance of Facebook and Twitter : EPIC has filed a Freedom of information Act lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security to force disclosure of the details of the agency's social network monitoring program. In news reports and a Federal Register notice, the DHS has stated that it will routinely monitor the public postings of users on Twitter and Facebook. The agency plans to create fictitious user accounts and scan posts of users for key terms. User data will be stored for five years and shared with other government agencies.The legal authority for the DHS program remains unclear. EPIC filed the lawsuit after the DHS failed to reply to an April 2011 FOIA request. For more information, see EPIC: Social Networking Privacy. (Dec. 20, 2011)

    https://epic.org/privacy/socialnet/

    But secretly spying on social networks is to keep us safer, or at least try to head off the next person complaining about their 7 yr old being felt up by a TSA agent.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:14am

    should have said they were going to video it and then post it on the net. they would have been dragged into the US then! (probably never let out again, though, for committing copyright infringement!!)

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:15am

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    They searched his luggage for shovels. *blink*

    Destroy in British(Irish!?) Slang means party according to an article.

    The other quote about digging up Marylin Monroe... a quote from Family Guy.

    He and his female companion were obviously here to ruin the country, and this is why we can not have nice things.
    It has nothing to do with the idea of a police state being run by people hired from the tops of pizza boxes.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:21am

    Re: Re: The really scary part

    There is absolutely no way for a generic key word scan i.e. watching out for people saying "Destroy America" will catch a single terrorist, not in ten million years. Anyone planning to commit terrorist acts will not broadcast it on Twitter. If they, in fact do, then they're so retarded, that all this surveillance is unnecessary (because, who would want to waste all these resources trying to catch an idiot?)

    No, this type of key word scanning has got be illegal on so many levels. I can sort of see how they can justify not allowing tourists in, they're not citizens, therefore they don't get the full protections an actual citizen should get, but something like this will inevitably be extended to citizens. Then what? You'll have US CITIZENS barred from the country for saying the wrong thing?

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:39am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    They are hoping the keyword searches will help them catch suspects that are on their level?

    America is a battleground now... we needed these new rules to keep us safe from independent thought and people who might point out the violation of rights to the sheeple who thought it would make them safer.

     

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    Susan, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:40am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    As a citizen, you cannot be barred from entering the US. See here:

    http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/counting-sheep.html

     

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    Josef Anvil (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:42am

    Thank You

    Thank you TSA for protecting us from another dastardly terrorist plot. I can't wait til this episode is added to the list of TSA accomplishments that have made us safer.

    This is the US and we don't want any water bottles, plastic utensils, or threatening Tweets in our country, and the terrorists need to learn that we mean business.

    Keep up the good work.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:42am

    Re: Re: The really scary part

    why has the US government and, in particular, the security/law enforcement agencies got so obsessed over, so paranoid about? everyone it seems is a terrorist, a dissenter, trying to destroy the nation! before long, no one will even contemplate visiting for fear of the most innocently meant thing being taken the wrong way and held against them. Jeez!

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:46am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    You can just instead be detained as part of the NDAA indefinitely and have your rights suspended if they think your a terrorist.
    As we have seen thinking isn't a big priority.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:51am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    "before long, no one will even contemplate visiting for fear of the most innocently meant thing being taken the wrong way and held against them. Jeez!"

    Too late friend, I've stated here on Techdirt many times that I am already afraid of entering the US, that my fear of entering the place and what would happen is the same kind of fear I might expect if I were to visit Saudi Arabia for example. I am one potential tourist who will most likely never set foot on US soil, not while we have these police state tactics going on.

     

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    Reject, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:54am

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    Yes; if you want to visit to go to a meeting, and use the term 'for work' instead of 'for business' (not much of a difference in some languages), you can also get arrested and sent back. It happened to me, and I was lucky there was a flight back later that day (otherwise you get put in federal prison).

    These things are way more common than a lot of people realize.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:57am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Because the dial has been turned to 12 over terrorism, and they need to show they are doing something.

    This lesson shows lots of stupidity, but with a slow mind imagine what would have happened had these 2 people ACTUALLY come and dug up Marilyn and Destroyed the country... someone would have found the tweet where he announced his bold plans and someone would have gotten their ass handed to them and that kick in the ass would have rolled down hill to someone on the line picked to take the fall. So the guy on the line, saw a chance to show he is on the ball...
    I saw someone over on BoingBoing trying to compare these tweets to shouting fire in a theater, and we shouldn't ever say these things... *blink*

    I got into a bad habit once after I found out about the rooms monitoring phone traffic... I would randomly say Jihad and other phrases while on the phone talking with friends... now I know if I do it again I should expect black copters in about 15 minutes.

     

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    Richard (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 4:58am

    How things have changed

    I remember a story some years ago about a person visiting the US and = filling in the visa form, where it said "have you any intention to undermine the government of the US" (or words to that effect) he wrote:

    "Sole purpose of visit"

    He was allowed entry without a murmur. Seems like modern immigration officials have their sense of humour surgically removed as a condition of employment.

     

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    tekano, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:00am

    twitter joke

    Fuck you America, we don't want to go to your stupid country anyways

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:05am

    Re: The really scary part

    That's not scary. You know what scary? The fact that people still need to ask that question.

    It's scary in the sense that you and the rest of the general population have not yet realised that you are being spied on by governments that want to pin you down so that you don't bother them and by corporations that want to whore you and your data to oblivion.

    I suggest you learn what GPG is, and I also suggest that you start using it.

     

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    John Doe, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:07am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    I am one potential tourist who will most likely never set foot on US soil

    That is a real shame too. The US is a beautiful country and the people are as well. In fact, the older I get the more I am convinced that it is governments that don't get along and not the people. Most people will get along with most other people, but governments seem to have a problem playing nicely.

    The US government is completely out of control and now doesn't even trust their own citizens. I forget who said it , maybe Thomas Jefferson, but there is a quote that goes something like this: "That government which does not trust its people can itself no longer be trusted." Unfortunately that is the where we are at in the US.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:08am

    Re: How things have changed

    .16 Gilbert Harding
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    1907-1960
    Before he [Gilbert Harding] could go to New York he had to get a US visa
    at the American consulate in Toronto. He was called upon to fill in a long
    form with many questions, including "Is it your intention to overthrow the
    Government of the United States by force?" By the time Harding got to that
    one he was so irritated that he answered: "Sole purpose of visit."
    W. Reyburn Gilbert Harding (1978) ch. 2

    The Oxford Dictionary of Modern Quotations
    www.freeinfosociety.com/media/pdf/4587.pdf

     

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    Prisoner 201, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:09am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Guantanamo is also the US.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:10am

    Epic sense of humour failure is why...

    ...I will never again visit the US. Coupled with the fact, of course, that the US customs and immigration service at airports consists of the rudest, most abusive, self important, jumped-up, gun toting, petty bureaucrats in the world. I have never been more rudely treated by any other officials anywhere else in the world. And I'm british and white. Can't imagine how they treat anyone with a slightly darker skin colour. (well, actually I can...but it's not a pleasant thought)
    The US is the biggest fundamentalist, fascist police state in the world. 'Land of the free', my arse.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:13am

    Any US citizen that's even been convited of driving under the infuence is not allowed into Canada. However the US does not disallow Canadian citizens from entering the US for the same reason.

     

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    Ima Fish (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:15am

    This is nearly as bad as the Muslim sales manager who was arrested upon his visit to new york for texting his sales associates to blow away the competition.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:16am

    Re: Thank You

    and no damn cupcakes in jars!
    Cupcakes need to be in paper cups!

     

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    charliebrown (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:17am

    I know how he can get into the US

    I know how he can get into the US: Start a website linking to infringing material!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:17am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    oh, i cant see this being mishandled at all, if and when terrorism is considered unlikely, again, i can see them turning over the capability to spy for ANY keyword on a very popular platform, i can totally see that

    starts of legit, then ends up corrupt

     

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    IronM@sk, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:17am

    Paranoia

    It's somewhat amusing being an outside witness to the USA's slow and sad regression into a paranoid mental state, blocking it's access to the outside world and attempting to block the outside world's access to it, and thus cementing it's own irrelevance as the rest of the world carries on around it.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:19am

    Re: Re:

    Wait...what? Please elaborate! Are you saying that when you went up to the booth, asked what reason are you visiting the country, you said "For work", they arrested you? Surely you had a VISA and everything else! So...more details please!

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:22am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Gitmo is Schrödinger's detention center, when it needs to be its in the US, when that could cause problems its a military holding outside the US.

     

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    Richard (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:24am

    Re: Re: How things have changed

    Yep - that was the source of my story - thanks!

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:24am

    Re: Paranoia

    its a veritable laugh fest for us on the inside of the asylum.

    SEND HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:25am

    The TSA in particular and DHS in general are an embaressment to this country. Today's DHS announcement: "Terrorist plot to destroy US by digging up Marilyn Monroes's grave foiled by DHS"

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:27am

    Re: How things have changed

    Come to think of it, last I checked, overthrowing the government of the US by force isn't actually illegal. Doesn't it say in the Constitution that citizens have the duty to overthrow the government if it gets too corrupt/too oppressive? Surely you can argue from that that the Constitution says its legal (and expected) to do so.
    If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:28am

    Re:

    ""Terrorist plot to destroy US by digging up Marilyn Monroes's grave foiled by DHS"
    Sub-plot "No arrests actually made, we just sent him home to the UK...total number of TSA terrorist arrests for 2011-2012, ZERO!"

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:29am

    Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    The GoogleFu is strong with this one...
    It was interesting learning more about Gilbert Harding, that he had notoriety for being not so nice to fools.
    He might be one of my new heroes :)

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:30am

    Bored now...

    where is paywall bob to tell us how the TSA is like a paywall?
    This is no fun without random trolls...

     

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    ASTROBOI, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:30am

    Re: Epic sense of humour failure is why...

    As an American I can't help but agree with you. I'd never get on an airplane unless I was forced to fly to Europe or China or something, which is quite unlikely. Within the states, I'd drive myself even though it adds days to the trip. At least I'd be likely to get there without being arrested. But you must understand that it's always been this way here; we just keep changing what is forbidden and we regularly change which bullys harass us. Once it was whisky that got a person in trouble, then later it was dirty books. At one time just being a mixed race couple was a ticket to jail, other times, being queer. Now that stuff is legit and making wisecracks is wrong. This has been in force since we got independance. We just rotate the injustice-of-the-week for a bit of variety. In all fairness, you guys do it too, just not quite so obviously.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:30am

    Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312

    Abta, which represents travel companies in the UK, said holidaymakers need to learn to be ultra-cautious when it comes to talking about forthcoming trips, particularly after 9/11.

    Abta

    "Posting statements in a public forum which could be construed as threatening - in this case saying they are going to "destroy" somewhere - will not be viewed sympathetically by US authorities," it told the BBC.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:32am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:37am

    Re: Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

    Makes me wonder if DHS is watching Neil Diamond, he recorded that song America... it was a warning they were coming...

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:40am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    so that explains the brain damage

     

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    Reject, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:43am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Well, not that directly. What followed was an interrogation that lasted a number of hours (wait half an hour, answer the same questions, wait half an hour, answer the same questions, etc.).

    Not knowing what they were looking for, I simply kept focusing on that I was there for my meeting for work, but after a 12 hour flight and 4 hours of questions one tends to loose focus a bit, so I'm not entirely sure at what point it really went wrong (I believe at one point they asked where I planned to use my laptop, to which my answer was of course, why would I bring it otherwise)

    I'm from one of the VISA Waiver countries, i.e. you do not need a VISA (that is, until the waiver has been denied for any reason at some point), and my ESTA record was up-to-date and OK.

    The drawback of the waiver program is that it can be denied for any reason whatsoever. And when it does get denied you are automatically an illegal alien.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:51am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    But... but... Pira-um-Terrorists!

     

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    JackSombra (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:58am

    Re: Re: Re:

    At a guess he was there under the visa waiver program, they asked him "business or pleasure?" he said "for work" (as was there on a work business trip) so they booted him (even though that visa is program is valid for such things)

    Even though for most people that would be the same thing and if in doubt one or two questions could resolve any confusion, that would require actual thought and effort on behalf border officials, something that is outside of their job description.

    Their job is plain and simple, to find reasons to deny people entry, sometimes i suspect they have actual quotas of denied entry's to reach

    Crap like this is pretty common with US borders offcials, hence why multinationals/international businessmen now try to arrange to meet anywhere except the US if they can

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:02am

    TSA defends United States!

     

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    JackSombra (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:03am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    "The drawback of the waiver program is that it can be denied for any reason whatsoever. And when it does get denied you are automatically an illegal alien."

    Actually that is not something unique to the visa waiver program, it can apply to any visa if the low paid, poorly educated and poor trained immigration official decides you have broken the terms of your visa. No arguing,no higher authority, no appeal, nothing but either jail or next plane to where you came from

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:12am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Gitmo is Schrödinger's detention center, when it needs to be its in the US, when that could cause problems its a military holding outside the US.

    But of course under no circumstances is it subject to Cuban law.

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:15am

    Re: Re: The really scary part

    I suggest you learn what GPG is, and I also suggest that you start using it.

    Should we assume you mean PGP? ;-)

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:16am

    Re: Re: The really scary part

    The agency plans to create fictitious user accounts and scan posts of users for key terms.

    Isn't this the same gang that says creating a false account is a felony?

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:26am

    Re: Re: How things have changed

    Come to think of it, last I checked, overthrowing the government of the US by force isn't actually illegal. Doesn't it say in the Constitution that citizens have the duty to overthrow the government if it gets too corrupt/too oppressive?

    No, that's the declaration of independence, which has no legal force. Any unauthorized use of force (other than exceptions such as self defense which wouldn't fly) is illegal, and I'm certain there's no exception for trying to overthrow the government. Even trying to directly incite others to violent overthrow can be illegal, let alone actually doing it.

     

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    The Devil's Coachman (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:29am

    This country is starting to remind me of the lyrics from the song "Plastic People", performed by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention in their 1967 album "Absolutely Free".

    Take a day, and walk around
    Watch the Nazis run your town
    Then go home, and check yourself
    You think we're singing 'bout someone else

    This was in 1967, when the Viet Nam War was going on full swing, and any opposition to the government's stance was viewed as treasonous by the majority of the boobs that still comprise the majority of the populace. Not much has changed in the interim.

     

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    Robert Doyle (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:30am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    But we all know there is no observing of gitmo so it's status can never actually be determined. It's quantum baby, yeah!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:33am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

     

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    JayTee, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:33am

    Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    If the declaration of independence has no legal force then I hereby reclaim America in the name of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

     

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    Robert Doyle (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:34am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    I'm pretty sure creating a false account is against the Terms of Use of FB and Twitter...

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:35am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    "But of course under no circumstances is it subject to Cuban law."

    Just the laws of physics. I am uncertain which one though.

     

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    John Doe, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:39am

    Re: Epic sense of humour failure is why...

    I rode my motorcycle to Canada last year. It was pretty easy getting into Canada. They ask you a few questions and away you go. The trip back in was not so easy. I am on a bike tagged in the US, I have a US passport, I look and talk like a US citizen but yet that was suspicious. They pulled me and my friend into a garage bay and searched our bikes. They didn't search us though except to ask for my pocket knife. I don't believe they searched the bikes all that thoroughly either.

    While we were in the office, there were lots of other typical Americans there as well. All in all, with my experiences crossing in and out of Canada, I don't feel one bit safer. They aren't really looking for terrorists. Probably just have quotas to fill on the number of people search. Frankly I don't blame them for picking me. You might as well pick the people you don't actually think will attack you as you want to go home at the end of the day.

    To be fair, they were very nice about the whole thing and one agent chatted with us for a few minutes because he just got a motorcycle.

     

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    Robert Doyle (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:40am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    I read an article in the Globe & Mail (national newspaper in Canada) in regards to a similar issue. There was a Canadian businessman who bought a mill in the US and was trying to keep it open. Customs denied him entry because they argued the work could be done in the US... well, it could have, if anyone in the US had wanted those people to keep their jobs...

    There really should be a minimum standard of education and experience to work in customs.

    That said, I haven't had any difficulties with the individuals I have dealt with when I have to travel for work so I can only assume there is more to the story in every case.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:41am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    This isn't about terrorism. This is about the growing political dissent in this country. The goal is to try to identify the next Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson or George Washington before they they can lead to growing revolution. Their hope is to succeed in their efforts the way the British (as one of many examples) failed in the mid 1700's of suppressing dissent.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:46am

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 6:56am

    A couple weeks ago I couldn't even spell TSA ajunt
    and now I are one!

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:04am

    Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    other than exceptions such as self defense which wouldn't fly


    Why not? I was defending myself against an imminent threat.I consider the US Government an imminent threat against my person and my property (I live in Texas, we allow deadly force in defense of property).

     

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    btrussell (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:07am

    Re:

    I've not heard that one before.

    But good luck going to the states to see a concert if you have had a drug charge of any kind. Depending on the exact charge, it can be done, but it will cost money and time.

     

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    btrussell (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:12am

    Re: Re: Paranoia

    I wouldn't risk sending anyone in.

    But you are welcome to come here. I have a spare room. No need to fly if you are in N.A.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:20am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    but rules are only to use used against bad peoples and we wear white hats.

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:23am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Somehow I had never heard of GPG, thanks.

     

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    Rob, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:26am

    Overthrowing the government

    It's only illegal if it's unsuccessful.

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:28am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    I was defending myself against an imminent threat.I consider the US Government an imminent threat against my person and my property (I live in Texas, we allow deadly force in defense of property).

    In defense of property against physical incursion, right? If someone inappropriately puts a lien on your land you're not allowed to go find him and shoot him.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:29am

    Re:

    I give it an 87, its got a decent beat and you can dance to it... but I doubt they know how to work dem internets...

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:31am

    Re: Re: Re: Paranoia

    Send Marg, Princess Warrior to break me out!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:37am

    Re: Re: How things have changed

    You're thinking of the Declaration of Independence.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:40am

    What!! It took you this long to figure that out. Everything is monitored. Assume the worst and be happy when you are wrong.

     

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    Chris Rhodes (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:43am

    Misunderstanding

    If I ever go to the UK, I'll tweet before hand that I'm going to "paint the town", and see if I get detained for planning to vandalize London.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:52am

    Re:

    Way to go DHS. Make it a terrifying procedure to gain entry to the USA. That will not harm the tourist industry or the convention industry. Not at all. *facepalm*

     

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    GMacGuffin (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:12am

    Re: Re:

    Let's not forget the loss to America over this. I've "destroyed" ...er partied, with British tourists before and boy did they know how to destroy. Like to make Marilyn Monroe spin in her grave (which we would have to dig up to substantiate).

     

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    Eileen (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:25am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Marilyn Monroe is buried in a mausoleum.

    I regularly thrown in a "death to America" joke when on the phone with my boyfriend. I don't think the NSA is as stupid as the TSA.

     

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    Travis, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:26am

    Hmmm

    You might wanna change America's Tagline from being "Home of the brave and land of the free" to... ahem, I'll leave that to your imagination so I don't piss off homeland security.

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:28am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    If someone inappropriately puts a lien on your land you're not allowed to go find him and shoot him.


    Shush! We shoot people for sport here.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Ye cannot change the laws of physics, laws of physics, laws of physics;
    ye cannot change the laws of physics, laws of physics, Jim.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:39am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    ah but now they have those new rules about sharing data...

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:40am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Please stay where you are a TSA/ICE enforcement team is on the way.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:41am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    Dick?! Is that you?

     

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    The Devil's Coachman (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:46am

    I'll take a stab at it!

    "Home of the cowering sheeple and land of the illusion of freedom."

    Homeland Security is the American Gestapo. Period. I wonder when they are going to change their name to reflect that. They don't have to use the German words Geheime Staatspolizei, but Secret State Police is a fitting and proper name for them.

     

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    Overcast (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 8:58am

    It makes me feel warm and safe knowing that TSA is on the job, protecting us....

    lol

     

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    umbrarchist, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:13am

    Identity

    How did they know who he was from the tweet?

    Is he using his true identity on Twitter?

    No a good idea.

     

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    BuddyMc, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:23am

    Re: The really scary part

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:23am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    It has nothing to do with fighting terrorism but everything to do with fighting free speech.
    The objective is simply to get every person on the planet to think "Will I get in trouble with the US authorities for writing or recording this?", whenever they post a comment on a social media site, blog, whatever.
    Global censorship ladies and gentlemen.

     

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    BuddyMc, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:24am

    Re: The really scary part

     

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    BuddyMc, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:25am

    Re: The really scary part

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:28am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    There might be a Predator drone missile with your name on it already then...

     

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    Digitari, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    "when you think as deep as a hammer, everything is a nail"

    sorry just had to fix that for you

     

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    umbrarchist, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:43am

    Identity

    How did they know who he was from the tweet?

    Is he using his true identity on Twitter?

    No a good idea.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 9:59am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Of course you can. All of physics is a summation from the quantum level up, you just need to change the averages of that summation. :)

     

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    GMacGuffin (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:05am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Note to self: Remember to comment on TechDirt via proxy server.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:29am

    If you see Jack on the plane do say hi to him.


    Or like my co-work who was watching the 'crocodile dundee' and repeated his favorite lines a bit to loud... 'that not a knife this is a knife'. A little trouble but that was before.

     

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    PRMan, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:56am

    Re: Re: Epic sense of humour failure is why...

    He just got YOUR motorcycle, or he had just bought one?

     

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    Michael (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 11:24am

    Re: Thank You

    This should make the TSA's top 20 for sure this year. They were going to destroy our country!

     

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    Michael (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 11:28am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    Are you a police officer? Otherwise, you don't get to murder whoever you want because a threat existed somewhere in your unique world view.

     

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    btr1701 (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 11:43am

    Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    > Then what? You'll have US CITIZENS barred
    > from the country for saying the wrong thing?

    As of now, the law mandates that a US citizen cannot be barred from entering his/her own country.

    They can make your trip through customs a nightmare, and if you're bringing anything illegal, of course you can be arrested for it, but they cannot legally deny a US citizen entry into the US.

    I'm sure that will promptly be changed with the new NDAA, however. I mean, if they can raid your home, drag you off to a secret prison and hold you forever with no attorney and no trial, then I imagine it's a small matter to strip out that bit of law that prohibits the government from barring you entry to your own country.

    The good news is, all you have to do is fly to Mexico and smuggle yourself across the southern border and become an illegal alien. The way things are going here in California, the illegals are now being treated *better* under the law than US citizens, so it won't be long before all you have to do is declare yourself to be an illegal and the government will have to treat you with kid gloves.

     

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    Lee-Bergeron (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 12:48pm

    Lee Bergeron Thoughts

    People can lose control at times.Being stuck in a airport and going through security can drive anybody nuts.

    Lee Bergeron

     

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    Kevin H (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 12:58pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    Or the universal constant, but that's up to Zeus I think.

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 1:02pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    Dude, take the tongue in cheek joke for what it was. The same reason I said we shoot people for sport. It was funny to me. If you disagree, that's fine, and I'll fight for your right to say so. But c'mon, really? I'm not going to go murdering senators and claiming that it's cool under the law because I felt like they were a threat to my property. Hell, I'm sure someone would have found that loophole and started shooting officials a LONG time ago if it actually existed.

    tl;dr: I'm not the kind of troll you think I am.

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 1:03pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    How'd you know?

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 1:25pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    I built the dial that controls that for him ... :)

     

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    BeeAitch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:16pm

    Re: Misunderstanding

    Better yet: say you're going to paint the town red.

    Ought to be good for a few laughs...

    :/

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:18pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part

    it was a much better mental image of them slamming their head into things to drive the nails in.

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:20pm

    Re: Re: Thank You

    Is it wrong to point out that most of the loud conservatives would think they did just fine by keeping one of teh gays out?

     

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:21pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How things have changed

    Its fun how even in 2012 a Cheney joke still gets 'em

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 5:42pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The really scary part


    As of now, the law mandates that a US citizen cannot be barred from entering his/her own country.


    But it doesn't say WHERE in the country they have to let you go, right? As long as the holding cell is on this side of the border, they're in the clear!

     

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    Viatcheslav I Sobol, Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:56pm

    And I thought "only" British and Israelis are bereft of humour

    Try to post some similarly witty comment no matter how sarcastic and funny it is indicating that you would cause harm to the citizens or interests of some advanced country and see how receptive their governments would be upon your attempted entrance into their society. These types of data mining algorithms that the border agencies utilize for visitors threat assessment do not take the existence of human capacity for jokes and humor into consideration yet and score even benign comments "accordingly". Naturally, the border agents have the discretion to overwrite the automated decision suggestibility in terms of an individual's suitability for temporary admittance. However, why use the ability to think when it is so much easier to ban yet another harmless British tourist from spending his money in the United States whose entire life history suggests radical islamism and being drunk on religious sobriety?-:) The moral of the story: people! do not post dumb stuff prior to visiting the United States even if you come from the most friendly country on earth toward the US besides Canada, Australia and the NZ. Otherwise, you're throwing away your airfare money.

     

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    nasch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:53pm

    Re: And I thought "only" British and Israelis are bereft of humour

    The moral of the story: people! do not post dumb stuff prior to visiting the United States even if you come from the most friendly country on earth toward the US besides Canada, Australia and the NZ.

    And good luck figuring out ahead of time what qualifies as "dumb stuff" this week.

     

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    BeeAitch (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 11:47pm

    Re: Misunderstanding

    Meaning:
    Engage in a riotous spree.

    Origin:
    The allusion is to the kind of unruly behaviour that results in much blood being spilt.

    Source: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/paint-the-town-red.html

     

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    Michael Lockyear (profile), Feb 2nd, 2012 @ 2:38am

    I have visited Saudi Arabia at least 20 times and never had a problem, however I would be concerned about visiting the US.

    Saudi Arabia is quite open (righteous?) about its restrictions, unlike the US which appears to be a democracy but by many accounts seems to behave like a police-state. The other important difference is that Saudi Arabia does not have the influence on the rest of the world that the US does.

     

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    Andrew Stergiou, Feb 2nd, 2012 @ 4:20am

    DISMANTLE DHS AND THE POLICE STATE

    Known for my ability to write at length I will make it short the time has come for America to consider dismantling the number one threat to American security for until then no one even Americans can rest easy, namely the American Police State the one that allows Rep. Peter King (R-NY) to sweep his past Irish Republican Army associations under the carpet while he currently sits on the house committee for homeland security.

    This police state is what in nature as part of an unbridled military what destroyed the Roman Empire so everyone can look forward to something eventually occurring regardless of what they liked in an industrial society in decay.

     

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    Andrew Stergiou, Feb 2nd, 2012 @ 4:37am

    All tweets by twits were made part of the Library of Congress archive as a public record

    All tweets by twits were made part of the Library of Congress archive as a public record

     

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    Andrew Stergiou, Feb 2nd, 2012 @ 4:46am

    What comments show in their naivity

    What comments show in their naivety is that the citizens of this country are traumatically damaged goods or should be as their lives are great empty void expanses of governmental social engineering and programming, propaganda, and counter-intelligence psychological warfare.

     

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