Barnes & Noble Going Around Asking Everyone To Change All Links From Borders To B&N

from the really? dept

As you probably heard, Borders went out of business recently and Barnes & Noble purchased a bunch of Borders assets around its trademarks. Still, it was a bit surprising when we received an email this week asking us to change any links we have on Techdirt that go to Borders.com to redirect to Barnesandnoble.com:

Barnes & Noble recently purchased most of the Borders trademarks and intellectual property in a recent auction. As a result of this purchase, we started transitioning the Borders.com website to Barnesandnoble.com via redirects.

We noticed that your site is currently linking to http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home , and I?d like to reach out and ask you to kindly update your links to the corresponding URLs on Barnesandnoble.com. We have redirects in place for many Borders.com pages, so you can use that to help you determine the correct landing pages on Barnesandnoble.com.

To be honest, I absolutely could not recall ever linking to Borders, but I did some digging, and found that we did so… three and a half years ago in a post about Borders.com’s last ditch attempt to try to be innovative with a different kind of home page. Because of that we linked to the front page of Borders.com. For a variety of reasons, it would be stupid to change that link. In the context of the story, it wouldn’t make any sense at all.

But all of this makes me wonder why Barnes & Noble is wasting their time sending emails to people like this. If it wants to redirect people, just set up some redirects. Don’t expect everyone to drop everything and go change ancient links.

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Comments on “Barnes & Noble Going Around Asking Everyone To Change All Links From Borders To B&N”

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The Real Zano says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

I generally appreciate it when a benevolent user notifies me of broken links or other content.

That isn’t what’s happening here. B&N isn’t saying “hey just being nice here — you have broken links,” its saying “hey we are going to break those links you have so change them to point to xyz.”

It is quite presumptuous to think that you can send out emails and have millions** of links get changed as a result. A far more reasonable solution in my opinion, as many others have pointed out, is to redirect people somewhere useful when they land at a broken borders page.

**number pulled out of my rear

Mike42 (profile) says:

Tek noligy

Mike,

Microsoft has been breaking links on it’s sites for the past 11 years, for no good reason and no useful redirects. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve followed a blog link to MSDN, only to be deposited on the main page. There is a search on the main page, and I’ve used it, but I’ve never found the page that was referenced. Which means the page was deleted, right? Wrong. I had to Google the specific item to find out where Microsoft had moved it.
If Microsoft doesn’t understand the internet, can we expect B&N to understand it?

See, Google has spoiled you.

The Real Zano says:

Re: For sale

So much fail packed into this comment…

Might it be possible that the rest of humanity has better things to do than to go modify all their web content so that B&N has a way to make money off their Borders IP?

Not to mention that leaving such links in place likely makes borders.com more valuable than it would otherwise be.

The Real Zano says:

Re: Re: Re: For sale

I generally appreciate it when a benevolent user notifies me of broken links or other content.

That isn’t what’s happening here. B&N isn’t saying “hey just being nice here — you have broken links,” its saying “hey we are going to break those links you have so change them to point to xyz.”

It is quite presumptuous to think that you can send out emails and have millions** of links get changed as a result. A far more reasonable solution in my opinion, as many others have pointed out, is to redirect people somewhere useful when they land at a broken borders page.

**number pulled out of my rear

The Mighty Buzzard (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 For sale

Problem there is you’re presuming that they’re presuming. Were I them, I’d be pretty happy if even a quarter of the admins of active pages that received the email updated their links.

Then again, were I them, I wouldn’t have bothered sending out the email. I would have done it the old fashioned way: screw them, they can update their links when their users complain. I’m a bit of an asshole.

Killercool (profile) says:

Re: SEO

It seems to me, it could be more useful to leave them as-is (with redirects), and collect that data for market research. Along the lines of “how much marketing power does Borders still have, x amount of time after they folded, and can we monetize the brand again?”
Or, a quick redirect page, along the lines of:

“Sorry, Borders went out of business!

However, Barnes and Noble is still doing great, so we’ll redirect you there in *countdown* seconds!”

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Time is Money

The marketing department probably has no intention of agreeing to something like that. Instead of replying to the letter you could communicate with their accounting department and see if they green-light it. I’m not advocating fraud here. Tell them exactly what happened and say you’ll need x amount of funds to do it. It might just work. Right hand left hand issues exist in many corporations.

Edwardo Angrito's Chiuawawa says:

Slow news day, Maz?

So instead of updating the link, you write a bitchy article about an email most probably would have tossed into the spam folder?

What kind of a hack journalist are you? And why do you have a “Too Much Free Time” article category? Maybe you should update that category type to “Things That Make Me Angry” and have a guest poster named Ed Anger post them on your behalf.

PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Slow news day, Maz?

“So instead of updating the link, you write a bitchy article about an email most probably would have tossed into the spam folder?”

It’s worth pointing out the idiocy that often goes on behind the scenes in corporations. B&N could have done 10 minutes work to redirect URLs, and even used the redirect as a marketing opportunity. Instead, they send out bulk emails telling other people to do that work for them. Creating the mailing list alone would have taken more time than performing the redirect.

This is the kind of thing we need to remember when these same companies are the ones trying to demand “protection” for their business models. They have many more problems than “pirates”.

“What kind of a hack journalist are you?”

A blogger on a personal opinion blog?

“And why do you have a “Too Much Free Time” article category?”

To accurately label people who post on opinion blogs demanding investigative journalism and complaining about the stories being written?

FarmerBob (profile) says:

If B&N actually has rights to the Borders address assets, they can easily and legally redirect them at the registrar level. And not have to “reach out” and have others do their work for them, which to me is a sign of IT incompetence. Or do they “not” have the rights and are trying to do a “runaround”?

I redirect all the time, in the background, and nobody need ever be “reached out” to.

Anonymous Coward says:

No, they are not going to break the borders link.. the whole reason they bought the domain was to redirect it to their site. They want the Internet at large to change the links for SEO purposes and maybe to eventually sell boarders.com when there’s little links to it that matter. They are NOT trying to be helpful here by warning us about a soon-to-be-broken link. Even if they did break it, why would rewriting history to make that link go to a different site help any? Borders is dead, thus a dead link would be expected, not Barns&Noble… it’s not a big deal either way and at least they were friendly but it is kinda silly.

CrushU says:

They DO redirect!

Good lord people. They HAVE set up redirects. They even give a special page because of the redirects. This is not about them being lazy. If anything they would’ve been lazy to NOT notify webmasters of the old link. No, it doesn’t make sense to change every Borders link ever, nor do they say you have to. They’ve just stated ‘Hey, we notice you’re linking to Borders.com. That domain is about to fizzle, check the link to see if you need to change it.’

This is an instance of intelligence from a corporation. Why are we deriding them over it?

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