Gamex Pulls The Welcome Mat Out From Under The Pirate Party

from the here-today-gone-tomorrow dept

For several months leading up to this November’s Swedish Gamex show, the Pirate Party of Sweden had been pursued by the show’s sales staff to attend. Then the week prior to the show’s opening, the Pirate Party was told it wasn’t welcome.

“On Tuesday afternoon, I called a representative of the show with a few simple practical questions, but she seemed generally stressed out and said something vague about the show and not wanting any problems before she hung up,” says Troberg.

I thought it was a bit strange, but in the afternoon, the pieces fell into place when the fair manager, Bear Wengse, phoned me and kindly, but firmly, announced that the Pirate Party was no longer welcome at the fair.

Wengse informed Troberg that the exhibition is a meeting place and not a venue for political conflict, and the party’s presence could cause problems, particularly since some of their work “could be perceived as criminal.”

Just what those criminal works were, no one was able to explain. The details of the unvite were severely lacking. Troberg had tried to explain that the Pirate Party wants to change existing laws through the legal process and that could not conceivably be considered “criminal”. Unfortunately, no one was listening.

Frankly, it is a sad day when a political voice is silenced for no reason other than a few legacy industries not liking the message. We have already learned that here in the US, the supposed bastion of Democracy, is refusing to hear all sides of legal issues. It really comes as no surprise to find that the same people would want to block access to those same dissenting ideas. Do we really think things will get better as we move more and more toward stronger copyright? Will the next step after SOPA be the silencing of any speech that can be perceived as “pro-piracy”? I certainly hope not.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

You are entitled to attend a private event WHEN YOU ARE INVITED. Don’t be a fool

I’d like to invite you over to my house to watch Monday Night Football tonight.

*five minutes later*

Sorry, I changed my mind because a couple of other guests think you’re a shrill, obnoxious zealot and don’t want their evening spoiled with your odious presence. You’re hereby disinvited.

Still think you’re entitled to come?

Another AC says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

“Still think you’re entitled to come?”

You’re still being foolish I’m afraid.

Of course I can come to your party when you invite me… in keeping with your analogy, when you decide to become a prick and uninvite me because you were too stupid to realize I had a body odour problem, then of course I won’t want to go over to your party with your elitist friends and their neanderthal attitudes to progressive thinking.

But then again, none of that changes the fact that I was entitled to go! Again, keeping the analogy, just because I’m letting the world know that you’re an uninviting prick doesn’t change that. The two things are different, do you see it yet?

Cowardly Anon says:

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Reading comprehension fail.

Zachary isn’t saying they were entitled to attend the event. The Pirate Party was asked to come to the event by the event coordinators.

They were invited, they didn’t demand to go. Then the invitation was revoked with only a flimsy excuse given.

Answer me this, Mr. Coward, if the private event didn’t want a political party coming to their event, why did they invite them in the first place?

Cowardly yours says:

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Um… check your facts. Gamex sold a booth to the Pirate Party. They even went so far as to spend a couple of months trying to convince the Pirate Party that attending Gamex was a good idea.
Then, with a week left till the event they decided they did not want anything to do with the Pirate Party. But of course they said they would not pay back the money the Pirate Party had paid for the booth.

I’d say that when you have been invited to pay for attendance to at “private event” and also paid the agreed price you’re fucking well “entitled” to attend it. Sorry.

Anonymous Coward says:

“Frankly, it is a sad day when a political voice is silenced for no reason other than a few legacy industries not liking the message. “

Legacy industries? Wow, are you out of touch.

The reality is that the “pirate party” wants to play on the popularity of online piracy, and the “we can get it all for nothing” generation, but doesn’t want to pay the price for that affiliation, real or imagined.

If they were the “Youth Speaks Party”, they likely wouldn’t have issues. But they chose their moniker, and they get to live with the consequences.

The real world doesn’t work like the pretend world, does it?

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

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Pirate has a negative connotation. Much like Hacker before it. Hacker is now the catch all term for anything to do with a comptuer even if the level of skill required was pressing the start button.

The take being called Pirates and turn it into a proud banner, that the industry is out of touch with reality and they seek to undo much of the insanity that keeps getting passed as law. They are not “stealing” and handing out anyone products, they are trying to reform the law.

But then I took TAC and turned it from an insult to something much more.

Oh and they can stop being called legacy industries when they stop charging fees based on replacing outdated media fees in their contracts.

2/10

Is it still to early for the A trolls?

Anonymous Coward says:

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I think the real point here was that they were invited at one point and then, without being informed, were dis-invited. As they are a political party, their voice does deserve to be heard.
While I may not like what you have to say, I respect your right to say it. And if you represent a significant portion of the political spectrum (Tea Party for example here in the US.) then I really do want to hear what is on your mind. Even if I really don’t agree with you.
Picking and choosing is bad practice in politics, as it is in most everything else.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

And that is a good question. Still, their ability to stick to what they say is not very impressive. I mean, if you invite them, man up and let them on.
After that, learn your lesson and never do it again.
Cowardice is unseemly and rudeness is not professional.

Otherwise, what the hell were they thinking in the first place? Who’s running that place? Some business noob?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Re:

Nope, it could be as simple as having a piracy supporter, or a member of the party working on the event, and not saying anything up the ladder. You never know. When the bosses figure it out, they take action before the start of the show.

It’s not unusual when you dealing with humans and organizations that not everyone is aware of everything at all times.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Re:

Well, first off, we don’t know how many offers were made, likely only one. Sales staff for shows like this can often be outsourced, giving a list of likely attendees, and then told to also look “outside the industry” for attendees, and that could include political parties and such.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the situation was only discovered when they were working on floor plan layouts and someone said “Eeek! The Pirate Party??!?!?!” and it went from there.

Gamex isn’t a small show – it appears to be Sweden’s biggest gaming / media show of the year, and certainly appears to be a large scale event. It is very likely that the sales staff and the show staff didn’t communicate a list of who has purchased booth space, or that it only comes up when the client signs the contract and sends it in to be countersigned, which is also a place where it was spotted.

It’s easy to try to come up with some grand conspiracy, but the answers in the real world are usually much simpler. A privately operated event has all the rights in the world to refuse service to a group they think encourages illegal activities.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:9 Re:

No, it’s just that this particular anonymous is someone who posts here regularly, but chooses to derail discussions with meaningless asides as an anonymous, rather than using their usual sign in name. I suspect Mike would be upset if the guys real name was used for this stuff.

Someone with absolutely no balls, a true prick.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:10 Re:

No, it’s just that this particular anonymous is someone who posts here regularly, but chooses to derail discussions with meaningless asides as an anonymous, rather than using their usual sign in name. I suspect Mike would be upset if the guys real name was used for this stuff.

Someone with absolutely no balls, a true prick.

1. The AC you’re debating is not Marcus, no matter how obsessed you are with Marcus.

2. The AC you’re debating is not employed by us.

3. Your guesses are pretty hilarious. And always wrong. Amusingly, if I were to guess at your identity, which is not hard to parse out from your standard lack of logic, you would freak out and accuse me of violating your privacy. You might even tell me to FOAD. And then you’d whine about how no one here respects you. You’re funny, dude.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:11 Re:

Bring it on Mike. Just remember, if you violate your privacy policy to do it, well… 😉

You also forgot to address the main issue: the “AC” in question is someone who posts here regularly, but who logs off specifically to detail discussions.

I am still not convinced (even by your insistence) that it isn’t someone who is either employed by you or has (or has had) posting privileges here. The writing style is a little too obvious, the goal a little too clear.

Tor (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Re:

“it could be as simple as having a piracy supporter, or a member of the party working on the event, and not saying anything up the ladder. You never know. When the bosses figure it out, they take action before the start of the show.”

It would have been a plausible explanation if it weren’t for the fact that Gamex ran ads in the Stockholm subway where the Pirate Party was relatively prominently featured for hundred of thousands of people to see. I doubt the bosses didn’t get to see that ad before they ran it (considering both the importance of it and the cost).

Cowardly yours says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Re:

Seeing as they had the Pirate Party listed as a participant (in quite large font at that) on the official advertising I kind of find it highly unlikely that this was the work of a rogue booking agent, else the problems in Gamex are bigger than just being a bunch of cowardly turncoats and industry brown-nosers (which of course is the definiton of anyone who’s livelyhood is dependant on the big boys giving them money).

The Incoherent One (profile) says:

Re: we have standards

Im more interested to know in where the Pirate Party has been brought up on charges for doing something illegal. Last I checked they were a political party which happens to think differently from most established parties when it comes to things like copyright. I didn’t know that thinking differently from the established majority was a possible crime.

Loki says:

Frankly, it is a sad day when a political voice is silenced for no reason other than a few legacy industries not liking the message.

It’s more then just the legacy industries. It is the legacy political parties. That was proven in 2004 when several independent candidates were arrested trying to participate in a supposedly “non-partisan” debate (really a bipartisan debate) and not a single “mainstream” news agency on either side of the fence (at least that I could find at the time) reported the story at all (as it would give publicity to someone outside the Big 2).

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