Confused Indian Anti-Piracy Group Asks Us To Remove Article It Doesn't Like From Some Other Blog

from the try-again-guys dept

Well, this is bizarre. A few hours ago, we received an email to our copyright notice email address from Aiplex, an Indian anti-piracy/SEO/medical transcription company. You may remember the company because we wrote a short post about them over a year ago, when its CEO said in an interview that it would resort to denial of service attacks on sites that didn't cooperate. We also noted that the somewhat confused company listed "Bram Cohen" as a type of BitTorrent client.

Anyway, I'd nearly forgotten about the company until we got this email. But the email is asking us to take down the post. Except, it's not. Rather than asking that we remove our post, it actually asks us to remove a copy of the post on a spam blog that appears to copy every Techdirt post (there are a bunch of sites out there that do this and get no traffic -- it makes no sense to us, but they're free to use our content that way, if they want). Here's the email:
This has reference to the below article on your webpage, we kindly request you to deactivate the link as the article is defaming the company’s image & its prospects. It was mis-interpreted by the news agency which was blown out of proportion by some of the pirates across the globe. And subsequently we have to face damages/threats from the pirates & undergo immense losses due to their attack on our servers/websites etc.

Although, we did declare that we are not involved in any of those activities as published in the article, we still have to face the consequences for reasons unknown.

Below is the link for your reference:

http://www.phphosts.org/blog/2010/09/bizarre-indian-anti-piracy-group-says-it-does-dos-attacks-on-file-sharing-operations/

We kindly request you to deactivate at the earliest possible please.

Appreciate your help on this matter.

Jagadish
Support Operations
Aiplex Software Pvt. Ltd.
Interesting stuff. First of all, they used our copyright notification email, and this issue has nothing to do with copyright. Second, they are asking us to remove our content from a site that is not ours, and which we have no control over. The content did, certainly, originate from our site, but they don't ask us to remove the content on our site. This does not speak highly of their technical skills, let alone their basic understanding of this World Wide Web we live on. Finally, as to the claim that this is "defaming," the article directly quotes the company's CEO.

Anyway, seeing as we don't control the web page they've asked us to take down, we obviously won't be doing a damn thing about it, other than to publish this post and hope that, sometime in the future, Aiplex learns a little bit about how the web works.


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    Keith_Emperor_of_Penguins (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:16am

    "Aiplex-an Indian anti-piracy/SEO/medical transcription company"

    I wonder if they do weddings and bar mitzvahs too?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:20am

    Well, that's what happens when you outsource your complaints about defamation.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:22am

    Jagadish

    "Jagadish"

    If you say this really fast it sounds like a head hitting a desk.

     

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    Mike C. (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:31am

    So wait a second...

    Does this mean that if TechDirt goes down due to a DDOS attack later, should we or should we NOT suspect Aiplex Software Pvt. Ltd. of the act?

    /I'm so confused....

    :-)

     

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    6, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:34am

    Mike,

    At the risk of putting words in the indian's mouths I believe they want you to assert copyright over your article and get the other copy taken down.

     

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      Beta (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:41am

      Re:

      I think you're being very generous.

      Also, it's "Indians' mouths" (unless he's one of those multi-headed Indian princes you see in the movies).

       

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        hothmonster, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 12:14pm

        Re: Re:

        then it would be Indians' mouth unless he is some multi-mouthed monster.

        Although i do believe he was originally write because he was referring to a whole company so many Indians all with one (presumably) mouth.

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 12:59pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          doh, what is the law that demands any correction to someone's grammar or syntax will have a grammatical or syntax error.

           

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    Ninja (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:34am

    LOL! Well, in their defense I must say that they managed to make my day (and provide good laughs) every time I read about them. This time is no different.

    Good luck explaining them the situation, if you take the time to do it of course.

     

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    eldavojohn, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 10:55am

    Perhaps It Has a Specific Purpose

    Let's assume they did this correctly and asked you to remove your post. Scenario: Legal sounding e-mail gets sent to you complaining of defamation. Two results: 1) You take it down or 2) you decide to fight it and refer them to your legal department.

    Now assume that they know they have absolutely no reason to force you to remove this post. But they risk you sending legal letters back to them about who owns the copyright and yadda yadda yadda you suck up their time and money.

    However, if they contact you and ask you to remove the blog post from another site there is a slight difference in the outcomes: 1) you recognize the blog posting as your own and diligently remove it, afraid to offend anyone or 2) you contact legal who says "wtf?" and you contact them who say "sorry, wrong people" and that's the end of it. They still might achieve their goal without risking a lengthy back-and-forth with you.

    Donning a tinfoil hat, I'd say it's possible the run the content duping sites or pay someone to run them to dupe your content so they have this avenue (you said so yourself that there is no reason for these blogs to dupe your content).

     

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    ahow628 (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 11:11am

    Don't let that stop you.

    I don't think lack of knowledge ever stop people from doing stupid things. Heck, I just made this comment.

     

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    Frankz (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 11:31am

    Does this other site that copies Techdirt content, copy only the articles or does it copy/scrape entire pages with all of their embedded links intact?
    If the latter, then maybe the Indians actually clicked on a copyright notification link on that other site, which of course points back to the real Techdirt.

     

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      harbingerofdoom (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 11:57am

      Re:

      it does not link back the way you are thinking, but the comments link under the story on their site does link back to the comments here at techdirt.

      specifically, the copyright notice does not link back to here.

       

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    SUNWARD (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 11:32am

    techdirt is copied

    for money.

    The site has lots of original content. Some sites will clone the content to get ad revenue.

    Other will clone the content in order show better on search and then allow links to their own site.

     

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    Bazilon, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 12:17pm

    That's kinda what the Indian dude is asking

    It's true the the request isn't very clear, but it's kinda implied when he says "deactivate the link" he means either take down the article on your server so the link becomes dead, or move the article to a different URL so the old links don't work.

    Both request are above what techdirt is required to comply with by law but they're not crazy request as you suggest.

    You kinda come across as a bit dense actually, the Indian dude just sounds like he's over-confident in his communication skills in English.

     

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      freak (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 12:27pm

      Re: That's kinda what the Indian dude is asking

      . . . eh?

      What are you arguing against? It seems to be something that wasn't said in the article.

      The issue with the request, is mainly that phphosts.org =/= techdirt.com, and secondly, that defamation =/= copyright.

      Neither of which have anything to do with not understanding 'we request you to deactivate'.

       

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      SheriffFatman, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 2:03pm

      Re: That's kinda what the Indian dude is asking

      WTF are you talking about? The "Indian dude" references a copy of a Techdirt post on a completely different website: how would changing anything on the Techdirt server affect it in any way? (Tip: it wouldn't.)

      You're not really in a position to accuse others of being "a bit dense".

       

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    Scooters (profile), Oct 14th, 2011 @ 12:22pm

    Did I just see "World Wide Web" used in 2011?

    I suppose this means it'll be on about 10,000 other pages tomorrow...

    ... and this Indian company will have quite a few emails to write to Mike.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 1:33pm

    #thirdworldproblems

     

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    Larry, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 1:53pm

    Congratulations Aiplex

    You have successfully further destroyed any credibility you might have had.


    Thanks You

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 2:33pm

    You should hire them to work their SEO magic on the article about them so it gets more views.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 14th, 2011 @ 2:43pm

    Just wait till the other site copies this post, then Aiplex sees it and gets really upset! Then the other site will get DDOSed, and it'll be your fault!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 15th, 2011 @ 4:55am

     

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    Designerfx (profile), Oct 15th, 2011 @ 9:49pm

    Aiplexx = MPAA, don't forget

     

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    AIplex Merchants of ddos, Oct 16th, 2011 @ 5:05pm

    Apparently they are ddos users according to wikipedia source of all knowledge on the internets. I'm guessing that they really don't want to be the target of a ddos attack. Why anyone would aim an attack at these silly bozos i don't know.

     

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