For a while I was associated with a Professional Placement Network in the 1980s.
It was surprising how many professional candidates first response upon becoming unemployed was not to do any activity that would eliminate their unemployment but instead engage for months at a time in the creation of forms and procedures that other candidates were required [in the opinion of the creditor] to complete and follow in order secure a new position. Not surprising most of these forms and procedures were in conflict with the forms and procedures created by other equal minded candidates or that most were completely ludicrous.
You need to label your characters for a start; I can't disambiguate the contradictory demand for solution with the character bashing itself on the head. I think that if you DO have a solution (to copyright, I presume, it's also left to imagination), then the industry actually /is/ waiting to hear it.
So indeed, let's hear the solution. -- You MUST consider that for the industry, getting rid of copyright is a complete non-starter, will be rejected out of hand, won't get a hearing, they definitely and entirely won't accept it. -- So with regard to that REALITY, taking it as chiseled into granite, DISH.
Its another rule - enforced "stop bashing your head"
Nina did you read what you 'wrote' ????
He DID offer a solution, and he DID NOT make any criticism.
his solution STOP BASHING YOUR HEAD
So not only is it stupid, it's WRONG....
It is NOT critiscism to say "STOP BASHING YOUR HEAD"
You might even say, it is a RULE
I thought you were against more rules....
Doesn't that cartoon (for want of a better name), state that MORE RULES are better ?
He made a rule, that people are not allowed to bash their heads, and he is enforcing rule by stating "stop bashing your head" !.
When you start telling people what they can do, and what they cannot do, that is making RULES..
Nina dont give up your day job...
You do not appear to really think much through Nina. Makes you lose what little credability you might of had, if any...
Re: Its another rule - enforced "stop bashing your head"
I'm fairly certain that "stop bashing your head!" was more of an emphatic plea for sanity (a solution!) than a draconian mandate (often a problem). Again, glad you found a problem and shared. Please let the rest of the class know when you come up with a solution.
An ironic cartoon given that this blog complains endlessly about nearly everything, yet, when pressed for solutions they are either barely-sketched, wildly implausible, or some variant of "can't we just apply the scientific method to every economic/legal/social/political process and, you know, see what happens?" (Answer, by the way: no.)
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its still one person trying to enforce their will onto another person.
that's a rule... enacted..
Does that guy have any rights over who can or cannot bash their own heads ?
Does he have a patent on it, or copyright.
What if it said "Keep bashing your head" ?
He wants to achieve a result, he wants to bash his head, a solution would be to make it easier for him to do it, but it appears he allready has found that solution, his solution is to use a club.
He had a problem he needed to solve (to bash his head), he developed A METHOD to solve that problem, (using the club). He applied that solution to his problem, and some idiot comes up and tells him it is against 'his' rules and to STOP.
Problem and solution:
it this case, it appears the SOLUTION, is MORE RULES.
Rule 1. Do not bash your head
Rule 2. Do as I say.
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Rule 1. We do not talk about the rules.
Rule 2. We do not talk about the rules.
Rule 3. Make a logical choice whether or not you are willing to follow stipulated rules.
Rule 34. If it exists, there's porn for it on the internet.
I don't see why we can't apply the scientific method in those cases. Its pretty straight forward: guess, check, LEARN SOMETHING, rinse, repeat. There's a higher reason the United States was nicknamed "the grand experiment." Its not just because we were flying by the seat of our collective pants at its inception.
"Our nation was founded as an experiment in human liberty."
-John Foster Dulles
"The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty . . is finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American People."
- George Washington
"I believe that there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation's."
- James Madison
So indeed, let's hear the solution. -- You MUST consider that for the industry, getting rid of copyright is a complete non-starter, will be rejected out of hand, won't get a hearing, they definitely and entirely won't accept it.
Translation: You MUST consider that for the industry, not bashing one's own head is a complete non-starter, will be rejected out of hand, won't get a hearing, they definitely and entirely won't accept it.
that was the worst comment i ever read, YOU suck... trying to make comics to explain these things to morons ... that's a freaking HOPELESS QUEST !!!! gotta give her credit for trying though
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He wants to achieve a result, he wants to bash his head, a solution would be to make it easier for him to do it, but it appears he allready has found that solution, his solution is to use a club.
Darryl talking about himself in the third person like that is kind of creepy.
To put it bluntly? Fuck the industry. It isn't our job to fix this shit for them. They got themselves into the mess, they can get themselves out. Or die. The latter is preferable. And yes, we mean the recording industry. The music industry is doing just fine.
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To start, I will admit Nina's cartoons can be hit or miss to me, but I can't help but notice this one either went way over your head, or you're being intentionally disingenuous (most people here assume the latter from you, which is why they keep labelling you as a troll).
Your and others' comments are criticizing Nina's use of the word criticism by mentioning that the character didn't actually offer any criticism. If I'm interpreting the comic right, I think that's the whole point. The only person in the comic that misinterpreted the suggestion as criticism is the person bashing their head. Again, I'm interpreting that Nina's entire point is that most of the Techdirt community are trying to give rational suggestions to others that are interpreted as criticism.
Second, that is really a stretch to say that offering a suggestion to someone else is enforcing a rule. When I offer a suggestion, you can choose (or not) to follow it. I see no attempt by the character in the final frame trying to force anything on the other.
I had a professor who was going to the media with something that the university was doing to 'save money' that was infact losing it money... but he was just going forward with a complaint. I told him "You should do a cost/benifit analysis of this action vrs any other action for saving money you can do, and bring that to both the press and the heads of the university. You shouldn't just scream a complaint, it makes you look like a pointless complainer still fighting against the Vietnam war."
Which... if it's not obvious... is to say "Stop simply complaining and offer them alternatives and evidence for the fact that the alternatives are in fact better because they clearly don't know that or they wouldn't be doing this."
John Fenderson: Wow. I seriously think that AJ has finally suffered a complete psychotic break. Josh in CharlotteNC: Not the first time, John. He's been overdue for awhile. silverscarcat: Which thread? Jay: He now has a pastebin for just Mike. Wow, he just doesn't quit... John Fenderson: @silverscarcat: All of them. silverscarcat: Wow... I think the funny men with the little white coats need to pay him a visit. Jay: ... I just thought about what the NSA is doing... They're creating the largest collection of books in history. Conceptually speaking, they're archiving and vacuuming all of the books that they can't read. BentFranklin: Links in comments need a new style. You can barely see them. How about bold them like in articles? silverscarcat: Holy... OUch, it gets worse and worse for MS these days. http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/ Ninja: People should just report and ignore the link troll.. I like how some of the most wacky comments from the trolls are being left alone under the pinkish link silverscarcat: Um... WOW! Just wow... Looks like MS FINALLY started to listen! http://www.purexbox.com/news/2013/06/microsoft_to_reverse_drm_policies_make_xbox_one_region_free http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update BentFranklin: Crap. First word strips links. Great Mizuti: don't be fooled; we all know MS still wants to keep the restrictions, they just figured it'll be easier to spring it on you AFTER you bought the console.
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It's terrifying to see how many people believe they can't make a difference.
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Jail time.
The solution was already given. Stop bashing your head.
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It was surprising how many professional candidates first response upon becoming unemployed was not to do any activity that would eliminate their unemployment but instead engage for months at a time in the creation of forms and procedures that other candidates were required [in the opinion of the creditor] to complete and follow in order secure a new position. Not surprising most of these forms and procedures were in conflict with the forms and procedures created by other equal minded candidates or that most were completely ludicrous.
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So let's have your solutions!
So indeed, let's hear the solution. -- You MUST consider that for the industry, getting rid of copyright is a complete non-starter, will be rejected out of hand, won't get a hearing, they definitely and entirely won't accept it. -- So with regard to that REALITY, taking it as chiseled into granite, DISH.
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that is worst one EVER...
Sorry...
YOU suck Nina... thats freaking HOPELESS !!!!
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Its another rule - enforced "stop bashing your head"
He DID offer a solution, and he DID NOT make any criticism.
his solution STOP BASHING YOUR HEAD
So not only is it stupid, it's WRONG....
It is NOT critiscism to say "STOP BASHING YOUR HEAD"
You might even say, it is a RULE
I thought you were against more rules....
Doesn't that cartoon (for want of a better name), state that MORE RULES are better ?
He made a rule, that people are not allowed to bash their heads, and he is enforcing rule by stating "stop bashing your head" !.
When you start telling people what they can do, and what they cannot do, that is making RULES..
Nina dont give up your day job...
You do not appear to really think much through Nina. Makes you lose what little credability you might of had, if any...
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Re: So let's have your solutions!
You are not allowed to bash your head, and he is enforcing that rule.
Criticism would have been "You are not doing it right", or "that club is not big enough" or "you are doing it all wrong".
A Solution would be:
"use that club, its bigger", "use a steel club", "put nails in it", "use a gun".
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You are not allowed to bash your head, and he is enforcing that rule.
Criticism would have been "You are not doing it right", or "that club is not big enough" or "you are doing it all wrong".
A Solution would be:
"use that club, its bigger", "use a steel club", "put nails in it", "use a gun".
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that's a rule... enacted..
Does that guy have any rights over who can or cannot bash their own heads ?
Does he have a patent on it, or copyright.
What if it said "Keep bashing your head" ?
He wants to achieve a result, he wants to bash his head, a solution would be to make it easier for him to do it, but it appears he allready has found that solution, his solution is to use a club.
He had a problem he needed to solve (to bash his head), he developed A METHOD to solve that problem, (using the club). He applied that solution to his problem, and some idiot comes up and tells him it is against 'his' rules and to STOP.
Problem and solution:
it this case, it appears the SOLUTION, is MORE RULES.
Rule 1. Do not bash your head
Rule 2. Do as I say.
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Rule 2. We do not talk about the rules.
Rule 3. Make a logical choice whether or not you are willing to follow stipulated rules.
Rule 34. If it exists, there's porn for it on the internet.
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"Our nation was founded as an experiment in human liberty."
-John Foster Dulles
"The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty . . is finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American People."
- George Washington
"I believe that there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation's."
- James Madison
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Re: So let's have your solutions!
Translation: You MUST consider that for the industry, not bashing one's own head is a complete non-starter, will be rejected out of hand, won't get a hearing, they definitely and entirely won't accept it.
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I see..
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Don't you feel like a shit now?
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hmm... glad we agree, too
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i don't know how you did it !!
sorry...
that was the worst comment i ever read, YOU suck... trying to make comics to explain these things to morons ... that's a freaking HOPELESS QUEST !!!! gotta give her credit for trying though
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There can no longer be any doubt.
Darryl is a troll-bot.
Only one question remains; is "a method for wasting peoples time in a digital information sharing system" patented?
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Darryl talking about himself in the third person like that is kind of creepy.
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Your and others' comments are criticizing Nina's use of the word criticism by mentioning that the character didn't actually offer any criticism. If I'm interpreting the comic right, I think that's the whole point. The only person in the comic that misinterpreted the suggestion as criticism is the person bashing their head. Again, I'm interpreting that Nina's entire point is that most of the Techdirt community are trying to give rational suggestions to others that are interpreted as criticism.
Second, that is really a stretch to say that offering a suggestion to someone else is enforcing a rule. When I offer a suggestion, you can choose (or not) to follow it. I see no attempt by the character in the final frame trying to force anything on the other.
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Eh... I've used this argument before...
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